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#1 orientallover

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 13:19

http://today.yougov....f-prostitution/

found this, I didn't now the UK was that conservative...
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#2 orientallover

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 13:24

Sorry wrong poll, it's for the US...

psos MORI recently undertook a two-part survey for the Government Equalities Office on the subject of prostitution. The first survey, carried out among a representative sample of 1,012 British adults between 11-12 June 2008, found that attitudes towards prostitution are mixed, with almost half (49%) agreeing with the statement "most prostitutes are only in that role because they are victims of exploitation" and a third (34%) disagreeing. However, almost six in ten (59%) agree with the statement that "prostitution is a perfectly reasonable choice that women should be free to make", while a quarter (27%) disagree.
The June survey also found that more than a third (37%) say they would not feel ashamed if they found out a family member was working as a prostitute, although 60% say they would feel ashamed. When asked whether they would support or oppose making it illegal to pay for sex as part of an attempt to reduce trafficking of women and children from abroad into prostitution in the UK, almost six in ten (58%) support the measure, while three in ten (31%) oppose it.
The August survey, carried out among a representative sample of 1,010 British adults between 29-31 August 2008, shows that public acceptability of both buying and selling sex drops off when people consider that the buyer or seller is a relation. For example, two in five (39%) feel that it is very or fairly acceptable for a man to purchase sex with a woman, and more than half (52%) find this very or fairly unacceptable. However, when the question asks "Please imagine that the man purchasing sex is related to you, for example your brother, son or father. In this case would it be acceptable or unacceptable?", acceptability drops to 10 points 29% and unacceptability increases 10 points to 62%.
Similarly, while 38% of the public feel it is acceptable for a woman to sell sex to a man (and 53% find it unacceptable), these figures shift to 22% acceptable and 69% unacceptable when respondents were asked "to imagine that the woman selling sex is related to you, for example your sister, mother or daughter".
There is no difference in attitudes towards the legality of purchasing or selling sex: 50% feel the purchase of sex by men should be legal (and 43% think it should be illegal), and 51% feel the sale of sex by women should be legal (and 42% think it shoudl be illegal).


half (49%) agreeing with the statement "most prostitutes are only in that role because they are victims of exploitation" /blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' />

This is a poll for the UK

Edited by newbie008, 30 March 2012 - 13:25.

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#3 orientallover

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 13:33

One last poll:

A CATI survey conducted in January 2008 revealed the following answers:
Paying for sex exploits women and should be a criminal offence: 44% of the total respondents agree (65% of those aged 18–24 agree; 48% of all women agree, 39% of men agree)
Paying for sex exploits women but should not be a criminal offence: 21% of the total respondents agree
Paying for sex does not exploit women and should not be a criminal offence: 17% of the total respondents agree
Paying for sex does not exploit women but should be a criminal offence: 8% of the total respondents agree


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#4 Lara

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 13:51

I'm not surprised people feel that way, they believe what the media tells them. Is it true? That depends on how we define exploitation.?

This generation of students are exploited by Politicians, all of whom had a free education.
That's only one group of prostitutes, but it's the largest exploited group I can think of.

*NB. My interest here is on record.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 14:32

I'm not surprised people feel that way, they believe what the media tells them. Is it true? That depends on how we define exploitation.?

This generation of students are exploited by Politicians, all of whom had a free education.
That's only one group of prostitutes, but it's the largest exploited group I can think of.

*NB. My interest here is on record.


I have to say that, as someone who benefitted from free higher education myself, I was appalled when the politicians (who had also benefitted) decided to saddle young people with long-term debts for their education.

And just so they could afford tax-cuts for themselves, and for the companies they owned.

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Edited by Reverend Dick, 30 March 2012 - 14:32.

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 16:50

One last poll:

A CATI survey conducted in January 2008 revealed the following answers:
Paying for sex exploits women and should be a criminal offence: 44% of the total respondents agree


i wonder if the 44% would also agree that paying for a woman to be a toilet cleaner exploits women and should be a criminal offence? or is that job considered acceptable to moral supremacists?
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#7 orientallover

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:13

i wonder if the 44% would also agree that paying for a woman to be a toilet cleaner exploits women and should be a criminal offence? or is that job considered acceptable to moral supremacists?


very well said
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:58

Strange, isn't it , that the two ( purportedly advanced /dry.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<_<' /> ) western countries that are venemently against prostitution have the greatest percentage of indigenous obese fuglies ................ /eek.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':eek:' /> Obviously they want the minimum distractions and temptations for their " meal tickets " to stray........ /dry.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<_<' />
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 18:23

I'm not surprised at this at all either, before I actually did some research my view of the world of escorts and prostitution was based almost entirely upon what I had seen on Law and Order and other programmes that don't exactly show it in a good light. It's not that people think it is inherently bad, just that they don't know what it is actually like.
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#10 orientallover

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 19:20

I'm not surprised at this at all either, before I actually did some research my view of the world of escorts and prostitution was based almost entirely upon what I had seen on Law and Order and other programmes that don't exactly show it in a good light. It's not that people think it is inherently bad, just that they don't know what it is actually like.


very good point Expert. People are brainwashed by the media, press etc.
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#11 SpoksEyebrows

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 20:11

I'm not surprised people feel that way, they believe what the media tells them. Is it true? That depends on how we define exploitation.?

This generation of students are exploited by Politicians, all of whom had a free education.
That's only one group of prostitutes, but it's the largest exploited group I can think of.

*NB. My interest here is on record.


Back in the day you got to higher education because you were bright enough. Nowerdays everyone wants a degree but they don't all deserve one and certainly don't have to work as hard to get it. This higher demand has to be paid for by someone so who better to pay that the person receiving the education. First lesson of the real world; nothing is for free.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 20:15

i wonder if the 44% would also agree that paying for a woman to be a toilet cleaner exploits women and should be a criminal offence? or is that job considered acceptable to moral supremacists?


Women are not forced to be toilet cleaners so how can it be exploitation?
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 10:49

Strange, isn't it , that the two ( purportedly advanced /dry.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<_<' /> ) western countries that are venemently against prostitution have the greatest percentage of indigenous obese fuglies ................ /eek.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':eek:' /> Obviously they want the minimum distractions and temptations for their " meal tickets " to stray........ /dry.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<_<' />


hahahahaha !!!

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 11:21

Women are not forced to be toilet cleaners so how can it be exploitation?


The percentage of women actually forced into prostitution is probably (because no-one really knows!) very, very small. That said, any number is too many - an opinion that's often echoed by posters here on Pnet. The police's Pentameter operations found very few (if any?) women who were actually forced: there were some who were 'trafficked' but that's a very different thing: 'trafficking' covers, for example, buying a airline ticket for a woman to come to the UK to work in the sex industry of her own free will, as many do.

People can be exploited by being low-paid, working in poor conditions, unsociable hours, exorbitant deductions, etc etc,: it doesn't necessarily mean only threats or actual physical violence. There have been many cases of foreign workers in agricultural areas employed in picking crops etc. being housed in disgusting conditions, being ripped off for transport and other costs - exploited in a whole host of ways. You don't hear much about those!
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 14:12

This higher demand has to be paid for by someone so who better to pay that the person receiving the education. First lesson of the real world; nothing is for free.


How about the businesses that have access to a highly-educated workforce - do they not benefit also? How well would Glaxo Smithkline, BAE Systems, Rolls-Royce etc. do if they set up shop in, say, Sierra Leone?

I have several friends who are highly educated engineers and physicists doing highly skilled work and paid relative peanuts by hi-tech companies in the South East - and yet they benefit from the tens of thousands of pounds of education that these people have had provided via the state.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 20:38

Back in the day you got to higher education because you were bright enough. Nowerdays everyone wants a degree but they don't all deserve one and certainly don't have to work as hard to get it. This higher demand has to be paid for by someone so who better to pay that the person receiving the education.

A popular answer to "who better" is people who can afford it and may well benefit spectacularly from it in both technological and economic progress, viz. people like us. One important example is that no matter how old you are, some of the advances that might or might not happen that would save us from some of the miserable suffering of diseases of old age are going to be made by people at university right now. On the other hand, I can see that some scarcity might make us value education better.

Why do we yak forever about these things rather than supporting people who try to find out, and listening to what they have learned? I must have heard fifty news reports that do vox pops and soundbites for every one that made any effort to find out what we actually know about how funding affects how people get educated. It's very sad.
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 20:59

The percentage of women actually forced into prostitution is probably (because no-one really knows!) very, very small. That said, any number is too many - an opinion that's often echoed by posters here on Pnet. The police's Pentameter operations found very few (if any?) women who were actually forced: there were some who were 'trafficked' but that's a very different thing: 'trafficking' covers, for example, buying a airline ticket for a woman to come to the UK to work in the sex industry of her own free will, as many do.

yes it's true that very few women are actually being forced to do this work....but the number of women that started out being forced is actually pretty high. myself for instance...i was forced into the industry as a teen. i later re-entered the industry as an adult out of my own free will. i am now happy doing this job....but my indorduction into this industry was not a good one, and i have many friends with similar stories to my own.
also, a lot of the eastern european girls in parlours have escaped traffickers and are now working independently. and i don't just mean they had someone buy them a ticket. i've met dozens of girls while working in parlours that have been brought over here by a 'boyfriend' who takes all their money. they later realize the 'boyfriend' is actually a pimp, and leave him so that they can keep all their earnings.
so even though they are not being forced and they are working on their own free will...their introduction into this industry was exploitive.

i kinda forgot the point i was trying to make /tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':P' />
i think i'm basically trying to say that just because the majority of girls work on their own free choice, doesn't mean there isn't also a lot of exploitation.
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Posted 01 April 2012 - 00:23

How about the businesses that have access to a highly-educated workforce - do they not benefit also? How well would Glaxo Smithkline, BAE Systems, Rolls-Royce etc. do if they set up shop in, say, Sierra Leone?

I have several friends who are highly educated engineers and physicists doing highly skilled work and paid relative peanuts by hi-tech companies in the South East - and yet they benefit from the tens of thousands of pounds of education that these people have had provided via the state.


The large powerful companies you sight and many more, have there own in-house training; a reflection perhaps of how much they value or trust the mainstream education. Many more sponsor their employee's further education but only when they are convinced they have what it takes to get there.

You make a valid point in your second paragraph though. In addition to that, many come from overseas to receive their education here.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 08:42

yes it's true that very few women are actually being forced to do this work....but the number of women that started out being forced is actually pretty high. myself for instance...i was forced into the industry as a teen. i later re-entered the industry as an adult out of my own free will. i am now happy doing this job....but my indorduction into this industry was not a good one, and i have many friends with similar stories to my own.
also, a lot of the eastern european girls in parlours have escaped traffickers and are now working independently. and i don't just mean they had someone buy them a ticket. i've met dozens of girls while working in parlours that have been brought over here by a 'boyfriend' who takes all their money. they later realize the 'boyfriend' is actually a pimp, and leave him so that they can keep all their earnings.
so even though they are not being forced and they are working on their own free will...their introduction into this industry was exploitive.

i kinda forgot the point i was trying to make /tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':P' />
i think i'm basically trying to say that just because the majority of girls work on their own free choice, doesn't mean there isn't also a lot of exploitation.


Thanks for sharing that Nisha. I for one would love to know the real stats that demonstrate how many women in this industry are actually exploited (good word, much better than coerced, if harder to define). I suspect that it is much smaller than the mainstream media and politicians in this country portray, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it were a significantly larger number than most seasoned punters (especially those who normally access the services of bright, forthright, independent businesswomen) on here would guess.

In an ideal world, a fully legal, regulated industry would be a good way to minimise this exploitation. But that seems a pipe dream reading the stats in some of the opinion polls above :-(.
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Posted 02 April 2012 - 13:27

Thanks for sharing that Nisha. I for one would love to know the real stats that demonstrate how many women in this industry are actually exploited (good word, much better than coerced, if harder to define). I suspect that it is much smaller than the mainstream media and politicians in this country portray, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it were a significantly larger number than most seasoned punters (especially those who normally access the services of bright, forthright, independent businesswomen) on here would guess.

In an ideal world, a fully legal, regulated industry would be a good way to minimise this exploitation. But that seems a pipe dream reading the stats in some of the opinion polls above :-(.


I agree totally Kantos
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