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I've been punting now for about 5/6 years (wish I have started sooner) living just outside manchester I have my pick of some fantastic parlours... sandys, samanthas, daniellas to mention but a few which i visit regular..

after joining this forum I noticed that a lot of guys see indepenant escorts, is there a reason that Im missing...??

I find parlours ( the ones i visit anyway ) to be convenient, less expensive and with the selection of girls working I can always find a girl that meets my criteria..

no disrespect to indies.... as I've never seen one... but can someone explain why they are the perfered choice for a lot of guys...?

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I've been punting now for about 5/6 years (wish I have started sooner) living just outside manchester I have my pick of some fantastic parlours... sandys, samanthas, daniellas to mention but a few which i visit regular..

after joining this forum I noticed that a lot of guys see indepenant escorts, is there a reason that Im missing...??

I find parlours ( the ones i visit anyway ) to be convenient, less expensive and with the selection of girls working I can always find a girl that meets my criteria..

no disrespect to indies.... as I've never seen one... but can someone explain why they are the perfered choice for a lot of guys...?

I think it depends quite a bit on which area of the country you are, you're blessed with some very high quality parlours in and around Manchester, and they are more competitive on price than the indies. That's not really the case in London, if anything indies tend to be a cheaper than the better parlours (with a few exceptions), and the better parlours in London normally require a booking anyway so that removes the convenience advantage of a walk-in parlour.

There are also some absolutely shocking parlours as well, which I could see putting some people off all parlours for life.

Also there's a bit of a north south divide with regards to meeting other punters... you guys up north seem a lot less reluctant to bump into them, which is obviously a lot more likely at a parlour than indie, so I think that puts a lot of southern punters off.

Finally I think the new laws have probably had an impact, a parlour is a lot more likely to get raided by the police than an indie, so by sticking with indies you reduce your chances of getting caught up in one, and potentially ending up arrested with your photo in the "news" papers!

Personally I visit both indies and the better parlours, as I don't think the reasons above warrant limiting my choices.

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I think it depends quite a bit on which area of the country you are, you're blessed with some very high quality parlours in and around Manchester, and they are more competitive on price than the indies. That's not really the case in London, if anything indies tend to be a cheaper than the better parlours (with a few exceptions), and the better parlours in London normally require a booking anyway so that removes the convenience advantage of a walk-in parlour.

There are also some absolutely shocking parlours as well, which I could see putting some people off all parlours for life.

Also there's a bit of a north south divide with regards to meeting other punters... you guys up north seem a lot less reluctant to bump into them, which is obviously a lot more likely at a parlour than indie, so I think that puts a lot of southern punters off.

Finally I think the new laws have probably had an impact, a parlour is a lot more likely to get raided by the police than an indie, so by sticking with indies you reduce your chances of getting caught up in one, and potentially ending up arrested with your photo in the "news" papers!

Personally I visit both indies and the better parlours, as I don't think the reasons above warrant limiting my choices.

Dont forget dear old houseofdivine please, upmarket location, milton keynes prices.xxx

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I've never visited a parlour so am not able to make a comparison.

But I like the idea of one-to-one contact with a WG beforehand, and a parlour seems to me like more of a conveyor belt, with WGs and punters coming and going at all hours of the day.

I'm sure I'm way off with this perception, but am very happy to continue to see my indies.

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I tend to agree with the previous poster as regards the tolerance (or not) of the local police, however in Leicestershire, most of the parlours do not look particularly welcoming from the outside, most are on busy main roads so anyone seeing you walk in (or comes out) knows what your business is.

I also dont like the thought of production line sex, which is why I prefer indies, who generally see one client a day. For this reason, I'll stick with indies too.

FWIW, I think that as the OP is from around the Manchester area, if he digs around, he will find a number of parlour girls have gone indie, and he is also lucky that prices are competitive. The best of both worlds perhaps?

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Dont forget dear old houseofdivine please, upmarket location, milton keynes prices.xxx

HOD is one of the exceptions ;) in fact now that I think about it, it's probably the only exception.

Although even HOD shuts quite early, doesn't open on weekends, only has two girls at a time and requires a booking... so even the best could do better when compared to the Manchester parlours :(:D but you'd probably end up arrested pretty quickly if you tried such a thing in London :D

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parlours are good when you have limited time and your punt is at short notice so finding and contacting indies is a no-no

parlour you ring, someone answers the phone, you book. simples.

or you just turn up and pick from the ladies available.

I have never felt I am on a production line but then I go to the better ones, i feel.

(Also sometimes there is a lady i wanna see at a parlour. no choice then is it?)

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i tend to find you have more fun with and indie and is more relaxed than a parlour... less pressurised. ive met far more interesting ladies this way.

its all a matter of personal choice.

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Thanks for the replies.... looks like it's down to whether you have 'good' parlour in your area and the punters personal preference..

Also, as far as punting is concered, it looks like living 'up north' is a good thing..

At Sandys Prestwich/Northenden (with them being busy parlours) you do often sit there with other punters, have a drink, watch TV, chat with the receptionists etc... its all very relaxed and doesnt bother me. is it us northern guys or the parlours themselves? I'm not sure.......

Saying that, If i came across an indie I just had to meet...i WOULD give her a ring...

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HOD is one of the exceptions ;) in fact now that I think about it, it's probably the only exception.

Although even HOD shuts quite early, doesn't open on weekends, only has two girls at a time and requires a booking... so even the best could do better when compared to the Manchester parlours :(:D but you'd probably end up arrested pretty quickly if you tried such a thing in London :D

I think that the early shutting time (8pm not that early) and the fact that it is closed at the weekend will keep the complaints from the neighbours low if any at all therefor low on the police radar. Surly this is better than somewhere open all kinds of late hours with comings and goings which must annoy the neighbours and also lets not forget , yes HOD has a booking system for the above reasons also, their customers are treated as valued clients not just told to take a seat in the waiting room with all the rest.

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I have punted in parlours and with Indies, for me a good indie is far better than a good parlour.

However there are some indies who leave a lot to be desired, research is the key to finding a good one.

Until you try for yourself, you will not understand the difference, it tends to be a much more relaxed atmosphere, especially if you are looking for a GFE, the ladies tend to, but not always, work from home. There is less chance of bumping into other punters.

One analogy is, free range or factory farmed chickens.

Even the best parlours cannot compare to a profesional Lady, running her own business from home, especialy when she is good at and happy in her work.

If you are looking to just empty your load, then 30mins in a parlour is fine.

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One advantage of indies is discretion, if you live locally it can take a bit of nerve entering and exiting a clearly marked sauna .I like the parlour scene which in Edinburgh is on the whole well run. I am quite happpy to see the other punters in the waiting room, and even happier to wait for my booking with a room full of pretty girls .

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I tend to agree with the previous poster as regards the tolerance (or not) of the local police, however in Leicestershire, most of the parlours do not look particularly welcoming from the outside, most are on busy main roads so anyone seeing you walk in (or comes out) knows what your business is.

I also dont like the thought of production line sex, which is why I prefer indies, who generally see one client a day. For this reason, I'll stick with indies too.

FWIW, I think that as the OP is from around the Manchester area, if he digs around, he will find a number of parlour girls have gone indie, and he is also lucky that prices are competitive. The best of both worlds perhaps?

Indies just have a slower production line.

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I've been punting now for about 5/6 years (wish I have started sooner) living just outside manchester I have my pick of some fantastic parlours... sandys, samanthas, daniellas to mention but a few which i visit regular..

after joining this forum I noticed that a lot of guys see indepenant escorts, is there a reason that Im missing...??

I find parlours ( the ones i visit anyway ) to be convenient, less expensive and with the selection of girls working I can always find a girl that meets my criteria..

no disrespect to indies.... as I've never seen one... but can someone explain why they are the perfered choice for a lot of guys...?

I guess there are parlours and parlours, but in good parlours most of the indies would struggle to compete with the constant arrival of perfectly-formed twenty year olds who are fresh and bright and keen to please.

Darwinian principles come into play here, and only the fittest survive. Those girls whose appeal has begun to fade will be ousted from the Hen House and will have to scratch a living in the dirt outside. This is just the natural order of things.

There are exceptions though - some truly gorgeous exceptions.:confused:

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i have seen many ladies who are indies and many who work in parlours and do not detrect any difference in quality of service or experience.

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I second what pooter says on saunas ('parlours'). I even think we might be a bit spoilt up here in Edinburgh at times.

Simple answer to OP, if you want to and it doesn't break the bank, just try it.

Saunas give you convenience, sometimes a lower rate, generally zero hassle (no-one you fancy, just walk out), nice chat with the familiar receptionist. It's just a nice mid-day or evening treat.

Without wanting to over-exaggerate any difference, indies will sometimes give more personal service. And there's three scenarios, all with their attractions:

a) outcalls - I rather like welcoming someone to my home, being the host, providing a nice atmosphere. With a receptive indie, this can go very well indeed.

:( incalls at her home - some indies offer an 'at-home' -type experience which is rather nice. Others have a specific room that they use, but if it is nicely furnished, decorated and equipped this can be very pleasant too. Just as I usually welcome someone to my house with a glass of wine or whatever they like to drink, many indies will offer a similar courtesy.

c) incalls at her hotel/apartment (eg if she's touring). I'm not a big fan of these personally but I suppose it's a chance to see a particular indie if you feel obsessively needing to be serviced by her in particular. Hotel rooms are pretty clinical IMO, and it is costing her extra just to be there. Having said that, some are nicer than others. A variation on this is the girl who rents an apartment in her home town since her own place is not convenient or she wants to keep it private.:confused:

At the better saunas, if you have an unsatisfactory experience and explain to the management politely and discreetly, you will get some consideration. :D In other words you have some 'come back.' This is non-existent for an indie.

Lastly, there is massive variation, both with sauna experience and indies and women generally for that matter). Don't have a couple of indies and go, 'wow that was crap, ergo all indies are crap.':( Some moths eat your clothes. It doesn't follow that they all do. Some are rather beautiful.:D

You mention Sandy's, which is well run but does have its downsides (production line feeling, multiple add-ons soon increase the bill). Yet there are bloody awful saunas in Manchester as well, so I'm sure you maybe already appreciate the difference.

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Even the best parlours cannot compare to a profesional Lady, running her own business from home, especialy when she is good at and happy in her work.

If you are looking to just empty your load, then 30mins in a parlour is fine.

Funny you should say that because i think you will find that an awful lot of indies offer 30min incall appointments, wether at home or on tour.x

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One advantage of indies is discretion, if you live locally it can take a bit of nerve entering and exiting a clearly marked sauna .I like the parlour scene which in Edinburgh is on the whole well run. I am quite happpy to see the other punters in the waiting room, and even happier to wait for my booking with a room full of pretty girls .

Not all parlours are so indiscreet that they have a sign. Not all punters would like to sit staring at the guy who is going to fuck the girl he wants to see before he gets to her.xx

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Not all parlours are so indiscreet that they have a sign. Not all punters would like to sit staring at the guy who is going to fuck the girl he wants to see before he gets to her.xx

In Edinburgh saunas, which pooter's referring to, they are pretty all well signed. One are two are at least in discreet side roads. While I know some punters have a great distaste for seeing another punter hanging about I suspect this might be partly cultural. In Edinburgh, most of the waiting rooms are pretty laid back and in at least one or two there's plenty of good humoured banter. There's not really the 'queue' situation very often, as occurs elsewhere. Go into London St, for instance, and there might be six or seven girls in the living room and another four of five occupied. So the man can relax and select a girl whenever he likes. If he elects to wait for his favourite who is busy when he arrives, she and her existing client would normally re-enter the living room separately anyway, as they go to separate changing/shower rooms to freshen up or maybe then enjoy the sauna before rejoining everyone else for a coffee before going outside again. And the punter can always book ahead at most of them anyway to secure a booking with a particular girl.

All the parlours I've been to in England have been very different. Some try to shuttle men in one door and out another. Even in Sandys, I felt the atmosphere in the waiting room was a bunch of guys all trying desperately hard to pretend the others weren't in the same room.

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All the parlours I've been to in England have been very different. Some try to shuttle men in one door and out another. Even in Sandys, I felt the atmosphere in the waiting room was a bunch of guys all trying desperately hard to pretend the others weren't in the same room.

Lol, perhaps it is the English...."Sex..we dont have sex" old fashioned thing coming out under pressure.:D

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I recently experienced one perk from attending a multi-girl flat rather than seeing an independent.I was at Madame Beckys in Milton keynes and they were very busy. I had booked with foxy but she was running late so I had to wait. This establishment operates a system of keeping punters apart from each other so I had to wait in their small kitchen. I had the pleasure of being pressed up against the maid ( not Linzie as she was off duty ) as she went about her duties. She had to stretch to reach a top cupboard and her delightful bottom was an inch from my mouth ! She then turned around to fill a glass with water , her thigh was in my crotch and nipples brushing my nose !! She joked about charging me and I wish she would for an hour session.I was nicely warmed up for a great time with foxy.

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In Edinburgh saunas, which pooter's referring to, they are pretty all well signed. One are two are at least in discreet side roads. While I know some punters have a great distaste for seeing another punter hanging about I suspect this might be partly cultural. In Edinburgh, most of the waiting rooms are pretty laid back and in at least one or two there's plenty of good humoured banter. There's not really the 'queue' situation very often, as occurs elsewhere. Go into London St, for instance, and there might be six or seven girls in the living room and another four of five occupied. So the man can relax and select a girl whenever he likes. If he elects to wait for his favourite who is busy when he arrives, she and her existing client would normally re-enter the living room separately anyway, as they go to separate changing/shower rooms to freshen up or maybe then enjoy the sauna before rejoining everyone else for a coffee before going outside again. And the punter can always book ahead at most of them anyway to secure a booking with a particular girl.

All the parlours I've been to in England have been very different. Some try to shuttle men in one door and out another. Even in Sandys, I felt the atmosphere in the waiting room was a bunch of guys all trying desperately hard to pretend the others weren't in the same room.

Like most things, the perception of something can be very different to the reality and you wont know it until you do it a few times. I have never been to a walk-in type parlour and there are a few things that would put me off;

- I dont think I would be comfortable looking at and talking to girls at the same time as they in effect await my decision to choose or reject them. This would be made far worse if I would have to choose/reject as they are ' introduced ' to me on an individual basis. I think I would feel awful rejecting a girl.

- the idea of have a bit of banter with the other ' lads' would do nothing for me. I think I would feel like those guys you describe in Sandys waiting room !

Whether booking an agency girl or an indie , I like the idea that I have specifically chosen to book that girl and I like the fact that she knows that she was my preferred choice amongst all the other girls I could have booked. Whether or not that makes any difference at all to the chosen girl I dont know, but I like to think so.! :D

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I've never been to a parlour how does it work .. ?

Are the ladies made to stand in a line similar that Bunny ranch programme ?

Or do you enter a room and who ever appears appears ??

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I understand how you feel about selecting a girl in front of her peers, and the ones not chosen can feel unconfortable about it, we are all human, and no one likes to make others feel awkward, but you soon get the hang of it, moreover once you get to know the girls, you can book ahead and avoid the lounge selection.

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- I dont think I would be comfortable looking at and talking to girls at the same time as they in effect await my decision to choose or reject them. This would be made far worse if I would have to choose/reject as they are ' introduced ' to me on an individual basis. I think I would feel awful rejecting a girl.

no problem - you won't.
- the idea of have a bit of banter with the other ' lads' would do nothing for me. I think I would feel like those guys you describe in Sandys waiting room !

Banter as in banter with the girls. Sandy's might be a polished operation but the waiting room is like a dentist's surgery.

Whether booking an agency girl or an indie , I like the idea that I have specifically chosen to book that girl and I like the fact that she knows that she was my preferred choice amongst all the other girls I could have booked. Whether or not that makes any difference at all to the chosen girl I dont know, but I like to think so.! :D

How lovely. :D Well you could always book ahead, although it ruins some of the spontaneity. Half an hour's wait while she sees if you're going to actually pick her can work just as well sometimes I think.

There's rarely a line up. Someone might remember to introduce the girls. They are there for you to send on errands like make you a cup of tea, fetch you a soft drink, or amuse you while you distractedly watch the MTV, eat the free mints, complain about the parrot in the corner, change into a robe, come back, drink more coffee, go for a sauna, come back, drink more coca-cola (unless you're lucky and someone has a bottle of whisky), read a magazine, play them off against each other, or grace them with erudite coversation such as nice hairdo, have you been busy today, where are you going on holiday, do you speak any English (only joking - but level of conversation varies from one sauna to another and also depending who's on reception.)

Eventually you might choose cos a) you have to be somewhere else at sometime or other later that day, ;) three Asians have just walked in (I say Asians as they often seem to turn up in threes) and you want to grab the hot blonde before any of them do, c) the conversation is getting too loud, d) a convenient amount of time has passed since you shagged the last one - say half an hour or so - for you to respectably now take her pal downstairs. :)

Now there's not a Scottish parlour I know of that can run a website that a five year old couldn't improve on. They are totally awful. Sandys has the edge there. But you rarely see conveyor belt action or pressure to buy. We still have vestiges of ancestry in the human race up here. The language might take some getting used to. But learn to relax (and try not to mention England every five minutes) and you'll probably enjoy yourself.

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