Jean Valjean

Ladies, I'd appreciate your views please.

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I'm extremely pissed-off right now as I have my second appointment within 5 months at the Sexual Health Clinic. The first time, March, I'd contracted non-specific urethritis from owo. This time I've developed a raging sore throat within 2 days of seeing a very nice wg and I'm fearing I've contracted gonorrhea from ro. I'll know next week.

Apart from the humiliation of being lectured by a doctor who's half my age I'm appalled at the thought of passing something on to Mme Valjean, who is a lovely lady despite being married to a git like me.

I don't think I can give up punting so I've resolved to be extra safe. So my question: ladies....

1) If you normally give owo would you be offended if I requested a condom for oral and use of a dental dam for ro? And as long as the latter was by prior request would you be able/willing to provide one?

2) If you only give oral with a condom do you think, by virtue of the fact that you've minimised the risk, that I'm going over the top by requesting a dental dam?

I'd appreciate your views please.

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Hi Jean

Sorry about your run of bad luck. Funnily enough I have encountered my first person to want me to use a condom for oral today. It took me a few seconds to cotton on, but it didn't bother me in the slightest. I think part of me was thinking he might be protecting me more than him and I appreciated that.

As far as dams are concerned, I don't have any, so I would have to apologies on that one and would have appreciated advance warning so I could either decline or explain that I'm happy to get some for a future meet, but would not be able to provide one this time.

I would imagine that other escorts that have more experience than me would already have some and I doubt very much that they would mind at all, as the good ones put their health right at the top, as do you. I'd be more concerned if they rejected the idea out of hand.

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1) If you normally give owo would you be offended if I requested a condom for oral and use of a dental dam for ro? And as long as the latter was by prior request would you be able/willing to provide one?

Not something I offer lol. But suggest you say you are extra sensitive and a condom helps.

2) do you think . . . I'm going over the top by requesting a dental dam?

Say you have a sore throat.

btw I think you are an exceedingly unlucky person. Anyone thinking of going to see Final Destination 3 with you should think again.

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Well I don't do OWO so that'd be irrelevant for me, but I do keep dental dams for those that request them. They're not at all popular, but I wouldn't be offended at all. Giving the lady oral is an activity with risk involved, although it's much lower than anything else which is why I don't insist on a dam.

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Well I don't do OWO so that'd be irrelevant for me, but I do keep dental dams for those that request them. They're not at all popular, but I wouldn't be offended at all. Giving the lady oral is an activity with risk involved, although it's much lower than anything else which is why I don't insist on a dam.

What she said :D, although I've only ever been asked for a dam once. I can't honestly see the point of doing RO at all with the things - you can't taste anything and we can't feel anything but each to their own, I suppose. I'd be inclined to not bother and just spend more time on something else.

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But suggest you say you are extra sensitive and a condom helps.

I often do that when I'm offered OWO, though in my case it usually is because I don't want to splatter her with man batter five minutes in to the punt. So she shouldn't be offended by the request for a condom of oral.

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I have given RO with a female condom in place and it was n't much fun for either of us. Can anyone compare that with a dam ? If its about the same I would be looking for something else to do.

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I would not mind a guy using a dental dam on me, it would not be insulting so long as he wanted oral with a condom. If he insisted on a dam but expected me to do owo on him then yes, i would be.It would be like saying, you are dirty and i dont want to catch something from you and it doesnt matter if you catch something from me.I would insist on oral with if a guy did use a dam on me, for his own protection of course;)

You have to do what you feel is best for you. I do think though that if they at least made those dental dams transparent and not opaque they would give the user at least a better view of what he wished he could lick without one.x

Perhaps ask the lady to provide some clingfilm instead.xx:eek:

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Perhaps ask the lady to provide some clingfilm instead.xx:eek:

Good advice - as long as it hasn't been wrapped around some smoked haddock in the fridge.

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What she said :(, although I've only ever been asked for a dam once. I can't honestly see the point of doing RO at all with the things - you can't taste anything and we can't feel anything but each to their own, I suppose. I'd be inclined to not bother and just spend more time on something else.

Which is why us guys prefer OWO or not at all. BB being completely off the menu, OWO makes up for it, having to use a DAM would make me move onto other things. Interestingly a few WGs have said they do OWO because they don't like doing it covered, much the same as RO covered for us. However some people for various reasons do want to be as safe as possible. But then I'd rather go without.

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I'm extremely pissed-off right now as I have my second appointment within 5 months at the Sexual Health Clinic. The first time, March, I'd contracted non-specific urethritis from owo. This time I've developed a raging sore throat within 2 days of seeing a very nice wg and I'm fearing I've contracted gonorrhea from ro. I'll know next week.

Apart from the humiliation of being lectured by a doctor who's half my age I'm appalled at the thought of passing something on to Mme Valjean, who is a lovely lady despite being married to a git like me.

I don't think I can give up punting so I've resolved to be extra safe. So my question: ladies....

1) If you normally give owo would you be offended if I requested a condom for oral and use of a dental dam for ro? And as long as the latter was by prior request would you be able/willing to provide one?

2) If you only give oral with a condom do you think, by virtue of the fact that you've minimised the risk, that I'm going over the top by requesting a dental dam?

I'd appreciate your views please.

Why are you fearing gonorrhea just because you have a sore throat? Ok so I realise that there is a chance you may have gonorrhea but it is more than likely just a sore throat.

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Why are you fearing gonorrhea just because you have a sore throat? Ok so I realise that there is a chance you may have gonorrhea but it is more than likely just a sore throat.

This exactly what I thought Amber, I go to the GUM to get checked out and have never had a problem, (touch wood), however I have had sore throats, when I get them I don't panic.

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Why are you fearing gonorrhea just because you have a sore throat? Ok so I realise that there is a chance you may have gonorrhea but it is more than likely just a sore throat.

Yep, I remember getting one a few days after a visit where I've given RO and thought I maybe I had something but it was gone a couple of days later. I still think it might have something related to it but it certainly wasn't an STD.

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I would have no problems being requested to do OW, I myself get checked often at the SHC however to date other than some urinary tract infections, caused by the swab itself, I have been fortunate enough not to have picked anything up, but I do understand that gents can also be worried about it.

As long as it's done in a polite manner no WG should have a problem with this.

Besides, you could always drop into the convo that you have picked up a couple of STi's before, and watch the condoms fly out of the wrappers LOL

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Which is why us guys prefer OWO or not at all.

Who's us guys? Almost all of my clients ask for oral, even though it is always covered, and so far I've had no complaints. Everyone has different tastes, and different levels of sensitivity.

The dam things is more complicated because of them being opaque, and female anatomy being so much less user friendly. I've used dams with a female partner before (she was worried because the GUM clinic staff had filled her head with stuff about how she should NEVER have sex with her prostitute friend or she would get every disease at once and explode, or something) and she couldn't find my clit at all because she couldn't see.

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she couldn't find my clit at all because she couldn't see.

Hmmmmmmmmm, tricky, still I suppose a possible solution would be for you to put the dam in place, locate your clit and mark the spot with a felt tip pen, then with the dam held firmly in place she could home in on the "X marks the spot".

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Who's us guys? Almost all of my clients ask for oral, even though it is always covered, and so far I've had no complaints. Everyone has different tastes, and different levels of sensitivity.

The dam things is more complicated because of them being opaque, and female anatomy being so much less user friendly. I've used dams with a female partner before (she was worried because the GUM clinic staff had filled her head with stuff about how she should NEVER have sex with her prostitute friend or she would get every disease at once and explode, or something) and she couldn't find my clit at all because she couldn't see.

I only ever advertised in papers and only ever offered covered oral for many years, I never had a problem, it was only when I discovered the net and saw what other girls offered I felt I had to do the same ( in a way the net is not that great - blissfully ignorant springs to mind)

Now I am about to start offering oral again but it will be covered, as it will be an extra to my now service they can pay or not for it........

S x

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Hmmmmmmmmm, tricky, still I suppose a possible solution would be for you to put the dam in place, locate your clit and mark the spot with a felt tip pen, then with the dam held firmly in place she could home in on the "X marks the spot".

Thinking about it, perhaps there is a market for a dam that has a small raised spot, like a Braille spot, on one side that can be located over the clitoris, then this spot can be used as a marker.

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Thinking about it, perhaps there is a market for a dam that has a small raised spot, like a Braille spot, on one side that can be located over the clitoris, then this spot can be used as a marker.

Do you think maybe small loops, made of the same material, and placed on the opposite side to the Braille X-Bump for attaching to a clit-ring, might be going over the top?

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Do you think maybe small loops, made of the same material, and placed on the opposite side to the Braille X-Bump for attaching to a clit-ring, might be going over the top?

Not at all, I like your thinking.

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Hmmmmmmmmm, tricky, still I suppose a possible solution would be for you to put the dam in place, locate your clit and mark the spot with a felt tip pen, then with the dam held firmly in place she could home in on the "X marks the spot".

Mmm, tasty tasty pen ink...

Dams move around a lot is the major problem, so you find the clit, you lick it, the dam shifts and you're licking the same bit of dam somewhere down my thigh.

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The following is only my opinion and not a stab at anyone who may or may not do owo.

I have never, never, never provided this service, or in turn received it.

It seems to me that many people do not understand the risk involved with this, or just don't care, thinking it is much more unlikley they could catch something.

Well for me personally, any risk is big enough to protect myself.

I am sorry this happened to you, but just take it as a stepping stone in experience, and now you know what do next time to be as safe as possible.

Good luck!

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Mmm, tasty tasty pen ink...

Dams move around a lot is the major problem, so you find the clit, you lick it, the dam shifts and you're licking the same bit of dam somewhere down my thigh.

Double-sided sticky tape?

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Mmm, tasty tasty pen ink...

Dams move around a lot is the major problem, so you find the clit, you lick it, the dam shifts and you're licking the same bit of dam somewhere down my thigh.

You can still indulge a fetish for toxic and non-toxic pens with the 'Loop 'n' Lick' range, though the 'X' is decorative with these. The Braille-Bump not only indicates the clitoris, but provides a target in case the licker is more focussed on grafitti art than the lickee. Pads of paper and spare housing estate walls can be provided for post-coital artistic inspirations.

More basic dental dam gamers will just tear a condom in half and use it as a dam. Mutual focussing on the clitoris may mean such small cover gets lost in flaps, but by this time it is possible neither lickee or licker will, as Gable said to Leigh, frankly give a damn.

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Double-sided sticky tape?

Or maybe an adjustable thong made out of dam material, thus minimising movement, might be the answer?

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