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Recently I've been having something of peculiar problem actually getting a booking with an escort using the phone.

Several days ago after researching a particular escort I finally decided to make a booking with her. While trying to confirm her fees and services offered she suddenly and apparently without reason hung up the phone, I tried calling back foolishly thinking our call must have accidently been cut off somehow, but she didn't pick up and soon switched off her phone. Still have no idea why. I thought I had the misfortune to contact a bad-mannered and somewhat unprofessional service provider.

Although I'm force to reconsider this as today I tried to confirm a booking with another escort made several days ago, she seemed nice enough upon our initial phone call. However, I called her today to confirm our booking and she became quite rude and not only hung up, but promptly sent a text message saying "I'm sorry I've to cancel it, pls don't call." Which has obviously made me question my own phone manner while dealing with escorts.

Where am I going wrong? Isn't normal to confirm things like fees, offered service and especially the booking before actually leaving over the phone?

Particularly to the escorts what sort of phone manner would lead to the decision to immediately terminate the phone call in such a way?

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Hmmm...interesting. I think most escorts make crucial decisions based on the phone contact, so it is quite important to get it right.

I have started to get a little annoyed with guys that ask me my rates etc when they first approach me on the phone. I have taken to the habit of asking them where they found me, as most of the links give very clear information on what my rates are and what I do, yet you would think there was nothing but a picture up by some of the calls.

Maybe it would be better to say, I have seen your profile on 'such n such' website and was interested in booking your services. I see you charge 'x' for 'y' time, is that correct? It would be fair to ask this as she may have put her rates up and forgotten a particular website (if she uses several) and be happy to confirm that you are correct.

You could then also say that you are interested in 'x,y & z' service that you also see is available on her website and would like to confirm that she is happy to provide these services within the agreed rate.

Basically it is showing that you have done your research and confirming your expectations in a polite manner.

Hope that helps.

Kate x

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Kate has a point.

often it is not clear what extras are payable from the website, and also you sometimes see a different rate on adultwank and on her own site.

Girls, I would get someone to read your websites for sanity as often it seems you know what you mean but it is not clear in the text. I have the same problem at work with technical stuff. I know what I mean but usually get someone to sanity check it to make sure it makes sense to someone coming to the subject 'cold'

but there again, some are really clear....

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Recently I've been having something of peculiar problem actually getting a booking with an escort using the phone.

Several days ago after researching a particular escort I finally decided to make a booking with her. While trying to confirm her fees and services offered she suddenly and apparently without reason hung up the phone, I tried calling back foolishly thinking our call must have accidently been cut off somehow, but she didn't pick up and soon switched off her phone. Still have no idea why. I thought I had the misfortune to contact a bad-mannered and somewhat unprofessional service provider.

Although I'm force to reconsider this as today I tried to confirm a booking with another escort made several days ago, she seemed nice enough upon our initial phone call. However, I called her today to confirm our booking and she became quite rude and not only hung up, but promptly sent a text message saying "I'm sorry I've to cancel it, pls don't call." Which has obviously made me question my own phone manner while dealing with escorts.

Where am I going wrong? Isn't normal to confirm things like fees, offered service and especially the booking before actually leaving over the phone?

Particularly to the escorts what sort of phone manner would lead to the decision to immediately terminate the phone call in such a way?

This is one of the reasons why I dont like using the phone when trying to sort out the business details.I can well understand that the girl will want to hear you talk in order to form a judgement as to whether she wants to proceed with a booking or not. Many people are just not good or indeed 'themselves' on the telephone and this problem is then compounded by having to try and discuss difficult issues such as services,rates, requests etc.

In my view where possible it is better to deal with these issues by email and then have a nice relaxed conversation with the girl on the telephone to satisfy her that you are a good guy and vice versa.The emails will already have broken some ice and given a connection and you wont get that feeling of being a complete faceless stranger on the phone. I think perhaps the timewasters are the cause of the reluctance of many girls to engage first in email communication--I think they feel the TWs can be weeded out quicker on the phone.:o

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Recently I've been having something of peculiar problem actually getting a booking with an escort using the phone.

Several days ago after researching a particular escort I finally decided to make a booking with her. While trying to confirm her fees and services offered she suddenly and apparently without reason hung up the phone, I tried calling back foolishly thinking our call must have accidently been cut off somehow, but she didn't pick up and soon switched off her phone. Still have no idea why. I thought I had the misfortune to contact a bad-mannered and somewhat unprofessional service provider.

Although I'm force to reconsider this as today I tried to confirm a booking with another escort made several days ago, she seemed nice enough upon our initial phone call. However, I called her today to confirm our booking and she became quite rude and not only hung up, but promptly sent a text message saying "I'm sorry I've to cancel it, pls don't call." Which has obviously made me question my own phone manner while dealing with escorts.

Where am I going wrong? Isn't normal to confirm things like fees, offered service and especially the booking before actually leaving over the phone?

Particularly to the escorts what sort of phone manner would lead to the decision to immediately terminate the phone call in such a way?

If you are to 'researching' an Escort- you generally would find all info needed on her web page/website/profile.....with most details attainable.......

To ring and ask an Escort her details when already specified is just down right annoying.

Not only that, but the Escort has to question the competence of the client making enquiries, as it's clearly obvious that they have not taken interest/paid attention to detail of her site which speaks volume in itself.

You would need to do more than Just look at the pictures and ring a number lol :o:P

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If you are to 'researching' an Escort- you generally would find all info needed on her web page/website/profile.....with most details attainable.......

To ring and ask an Escort her details when already specified is just down right annoying.

Not only that, but the Escort has to question the competence of the client making enquiries, as it's clearly obvious that they have not taken interest/paid attention to detail of her site which speaks volume in itself.

You would need to do more than Just look at the pictures and ring a number lol :o:P

I don't think this was the case of the op though Natasha. There is a difference between asking for information and gents wanting it confirmed.

Anyhow Sapient, maybe you have just had a run of bad luck with ladies that have bad attitudes, has this ever happened before?

My advice regarding tel calls with Wg's is (not a full guide just some snipets!):

1. Never call from a witheld number (pref use a phone dedicated to punting, if you don't then just make sure your voicemail doesn't contain your full name or/and place of work! You won't believe how many do that!)

2. Always introduce yourself! I get so many gents who say "Hi is that Carissa?" and then don't tell me their name.

3. Always say you have looked at their website.

4. When talking about services/costs always use the word "confirm". So something like, "Can you confirm that your price for 2 hours is still XXX"

5. Be polite, please and thank you's cost nowt!

6. Don't sound desperate for a booking, as this starts the sirens. If she says she can't do a booking at 11am, don't start rattling off subsequent times at half hourly intervals till 5pm. Its not good.

Above all, don't take a knock back to heart. It could be for many reasons, and might be nothing to do with your phone manner. Just the girls circumstance.

Also, I, like many other girls, use "gut feeling" a lot, as its my way of protecting myself. I am sure I turn down many gents that are probably lovely just becuase I am unsure of them from the phonecall. It happens, and I know it shit for you guys, but for safety's sake we have to listen to gut feelings.

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I'll usually ask where they have seen my number etc and refer back to my website but also be happy to confirm rates - especially if you quote them to me(I am actually very interested in where you have seen my details, as I like to know if info out there is correct, and of course how much information you already have about me). Detailed service questions or mentioning your willy is going to make me want to hang up though, as will asking inappropriate questions, shouting or being abusive.

Regards getting cut off, in my semi-rural area signal can suddenyl disappear and often a client can be calling from an area of little reception. Quite often the call has gone dead and I'm left wondering if he's put the phone down, or thinks it's me. On one or two occasions this may have happened just as a client is arriving for his appointment, so yes the phone is turned off if he tries to phone back.

Different ladies have different policies regards phone calls. I prefer them to numerous text or emails which can get out of hand, or be inconvenient especially for last minute bookings. Any contact whether phone, email, text is fine if it's kept to the point and succinct. That way both parties can communicate very effectively.

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Oh and don't say "have a got the right number?". Number for whom?. I'm afraid I'm not going to blurt out that this is Ruthy's phone, and all I can offer unless you give me a clue it's Ruthy you are after!

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Recently I've been having something of peculiar problem actually getting a booking with an escort using the phone.

Several days ago after researching a particular escort I finally decided to make a booking with her. While trying to confirm her fees and services offered she suddenly and apparently without reason hung up the phone, I tried calling back foolishly thinking our call must have accidently been cut off somehow, but she didn't pick up and soon switched off her phone. Still have no idea why. I thought I had the misfortune to contact a bad-mannered and somewhat unprofessional service provider.

Although I'm force to reconsider this as today I tried to confirm a booking with another escort made several days ago, she seemed nice enough upon our initial phone call. However, I called her today to confirm our booking and she became quite rude and not only hung up, but promptly sent a text message saying "I'm sorry I've to cancel it, pls don't call." Which has obviously made me question my own phone manner while dealing with escorts.

Where am I going wrong? Isn't normal to confirm things like fees, offered service and especially the booking before actually leaving over the phone?

Particularly to the escorts what sort of phone manner would lead to the decision to immediately terminate the phone call in such a way?

Difficult one, however if a chat on the phone doesn't go well then I wouldn't bother as the meeting is likely to be similar.

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Two excellent posts. The first phone contact can be make or break for either party. Helpful to see the sort of things going through both (genuine) people's minds I think, and to put oneself in the other person's shoes.

I try to have a certain mindset when making the call, conscious of how easily it is to pick somebody up wrongly. I want to complete the call fairly briskly (unless she obviously wants to take more time), convey an upbeat manner (always physically smile when on the phone - people can hear it), I want my voice to be both reassuring and fun, and I also have a list (sometimes written) of any information I need to ascertain or confirm.

It usually goes: a few seconds of big smiles and intros, small compliment, check booking type, length, time & availability, cement with something nice (how much looking forward to it, or maybe 2nd small compliment - something I like in her manner/voice for instance), then, "So just checking, that's £80 inclusive for the half hour?" and then (only then) confirm my address or offer to text directions if it's an outcall, and "I'll put that through the system, then" if an Internet booking confirmation is appropriate.

Confirming graphic services I find works best by text or email as some ladies don't like to talk about it, or else phrases like 'oral without' or 'reverse oral' thrown into the 'just confirm' conversation as if discussing a hotel facilities.

The process takes anything from 20 seconds to a couple of minutes, so not the end of the world if it blows out. And if I am comfortable that my technique and phone manner were ok, as judged by any reasonable person, then I don't beat myself up over a rude response if that occasionally happens. I've usually exchanged email or text first and can only think of two blow outs - once she hung up after I heard giggles with her friend and a dropped phone, and once abroad after we'd struggled with language difficulties.

In summary, my thoughts are

i) be properly prepared, as kissxkate has said, and confident my phone technique is good or the best I can muster, and

ii) not get put off if I get an occasional poor response.

Two in a row sounds like bad luck Sapient. But if we trawl the 'outer limits' as they say I think it's going to happen sometimes even with the best will in the world. If I were using the non-mentioned site down south, I'm sure there would be a fair number of blow outs - druggies, beginners, uptighters, jokers, dissemblers. Or just women that have put an ad up and not sure if they have the confidence to go through with a booking or maybe just think they'll wait and see if you sound like Brad Pitt.

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Several days ago after researching a particular escort I finally decided to make a booking with her. While trying to confirm her fees and services offered she suddenly and apparently without reason hung up the phone, I tried calling back foolishly thinking our call must have accidently been cut off somehow, but she didn't pick up and soon switched off her phone. Still have no idea why. I thought I had the misfortune to contact a bad-mannered and somewhat unprofessional service provider.

I cant comment about the second instance, but I had a similar situation to this one, but its not always sinister.

One Sunday afternoon, while on the phone to a lady, she had a knock at the door, and looked through the window to see 3 members of her family standing on her doorstep, who had dropped in for a surprise visit :o I spoke to her again the next day and she apologised and said the only thing she could do at the time was shut off the phone and stick it in a nearby cupboard and open the door smiling.

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Lots of other great posts while I was typing. Thread could be great resource for people starting out. Particularly liked Tarquers pointing out, if it didn't go well on the phone then it prob wouldn't if the meeting took place. Might be nobody's fault. Just poor chemistry. Barring humorous ones that Elsewhere's suggested. In that case, nice that she made the effort to make up for the earlier situation, which speaks well of her.

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I don't think this was the case of the op though Natasha. There is a difference between asking for information and gents wanting it confirmed.

Anyhow Sapient, maybe you have just had a run of bad luck with ladies that have bad attitudes, has this ever happened before?

My advice regarding tel calls with Wg's is (not a full guide just some snipets!):

1. Never call from a witheld number (pref use a phone dedicated to punting, if you don't then just make sure your voicemail doesn't contain your full name or/and place of work! You won't believe how many do that!)

2. Always introduce yourself! I get so many gents who say "Hi is that Carissa?" and then don't tell me their name.

3. Always say you have looked at their website.

4. When talking about services/costs always use the word "confirm". So something like, "Can you confirm that your price for 2 hours is still XXX"

5. Be polite, please and thank you's cost nowt!

6. Don't sound desperate for a booking, as this starts the sirens. If she says she can't do a booking at 11am, don't start rattling off subsequent times at half hourly intervals till 5pm. Its not good.

Above all, don't take a knock back to heart. It could be for many reasons, and might be nothing to do with your phone manner. Just the girls circumstance.

Also, I, like many other girls, use "gut feeling" a lot, as its my way of protecting myself. I am sure I turn down many gents that are probably lovely just becuase I am unsure of them from the phonecall. It happens, and I know it shit for you guys, but for safety's sake we have to listen to gut feelings.

I agree with some of your pointers Carissa- but I don't think there is any need for repetitive confirmation.

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I agree with some of your pointers Carissa- but I don't think there is any need for repetitive confirmation.

Where's the repetitive confirmation???

Do u mean

4. When talking about services/costs always use the word "confirm". So something like, "Can you confirm that your price for 2 hours is still XXX"

It is quite normal for a gent to wish to confirm that the price he has seen on a profile or website is still current. And I don't have a problem with it. I prefer them to double check. It means there will be no crossed wires.

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Where's the repetitive confirmation???

I was making a general comment- not referring to anything in regards to your post.

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I think there is nothing wrong with asking about prices & services. The client is paying for the service and should have all the information he needs before committing to a booking. We have clients call 3 or 4 times a day asking different questions and then call back and book. :o

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Although I'm force to reconsider this as today I tried to confirm a booking with another escort made several days ago, she seemed nice enough upon our initial phone call. However, I called her today to confirm our booking and she became quite rude and not only hung up, but promptly sent a text message saying "I'm sorry I've to cancel it, pls don't call." Which has obviously made me question my own phone manner while dealing with escorts.

Oddly enough I take the sort of thing that you have detailed as a bonus, I work on the principle that if you do not want to see me then I do not want to see you.

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Recently I've been having something of peculiar problem actually getting a booking with an escort using the phone.

Several days ago after researching a particular escort I finally decided to make a booking with her. While trying to confirm her fees and services offered she suddenly and apparently without reason hung up the phone, I tried calling back foolishly thinking our call must have accidently been cut off somehow, but she didn't pick up and soon switched off her phone. Still have no idea why. I thought I had the misfortune to contact a bad-mannered and somewhat unprofessional service provider.

Although I'm force to reconsider this as today I tried to confirm a booking with another escort made several days ago, she seemed nice enough upon our initial phone call. However, I called her today to confirm our booking and she became quite rude and not only hung up, but promptly sent a text message saying "I'm sorry I've to cancel it, pls don't call." Which has obviously made me question my own phone manner while dealing with escorts.

Where am I going wrong? Isn't normal to confirm things like fees, offered service and especially the booking before actually leaving over the phone?

Particularly to the escorts what sort of phone manner would lead to the decision to immediately terminate the phone call in such a way?

I would say it is a little 'drastic' Sapient that not one but two ladies have put the phone down/hung up on you- it does seem from your explanation that you may have been 'persistant' or repetitive ?

The last thing a lady wants to do is put the phone down, but if having someone that is so irritating on the other end of phone maybe had no option but to do this.........sorry to be so blunt.

I would try emailing/texting or giving a little while, and ringing said ladies again, to ask them why they put the phone down- as after all it is only they that will know and can give you your answer- so you know where your going wrong in future.

It is very rude and unprofessional to act in this manner, and also not a good way to conduct a business.

If it happened to me, and someone put the phone down on me- I would like a good valid explanation-

after all, if your only confirming fee's/booking why would there be a need for the phone to be 'hung up'.

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I think there is nothing wrong with asking about prices & services. The client is paying for the service and should have all the information he needs before committing to a booking. We have clients call 3 or 4 times a day asking different questions and then call back and book. :o

I guess it is a matter of situation. I have gone to great lengths to try and make my websites and profiles as informative as possible to try and avoid having to explain everything on the phone. Often It is not easy taking calls as you may be out and about or at home with relatives around and about (not necessarily in the same room) so the shorter you can keep the call the better.

There is also the point that if the potential client shows awareness of your rates and services you can feel quite confident that they have contacted the right person, or not just ringing round as many ladies as they can for their jollies. (It happens frequently), so therefore it is reassuring.

I'd much rather have a light hearted introductory call that is of the type that could be conducted in a non private setting where possible and just be able to answer yes and no to the more intimate or confirming kind of questions. It makes me feel reassured that I'm meeting someone who is not to be worried about and that they are not going to be shocked when I walk through the door, instead of someone else they were looking at on the same site 5 mins earlier and got mixed up.

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Rather than rudely hang up, why not say, sorry, i dont think we can do business or some such. leaves a less bitter taste in the mouth dont you think????

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Rather than rudely hang up, why not say, sorry, i dont think we can do business or some such. leaves a less bitter taste in the mouth dont you think????

Possibly, but it does have the merit of putting the issue beyond all reasonable doubt, which is a good thing IMHO.

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Possibly, but it does have the merit of putting the issue beyond all reasonable doubt, which is a good thing IMHO.

The whole point of this thread is that it did NOT put the issue beyond reasonable doubt.

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The whole point of this thread is that it did NOT put the issue beyond reasonable doubt.

And the whole point of my reply was that IMHO it should have put the issue beyond all reasonable doubt.

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Thanks for all the insightful responses, like has been said certain information even if provided on websites can differ like prices either over time or different web page/website/profile as do services offered. Therefore I always confirm basic things like price and services provided as the last the thing I want is to travel all the way to a booking with apparently insufficient funds or find out a particular services I wanted is in fact not on offer for whatever reason.

Also, I should say I'm not good on the phone in general (and especially when dealing with escorts) and detest talking to people on the phone unless necessary. Because I can have problems arranging bookings with an escort via phone (especially if her English isn't great) I have something of a brief "script" reminding of the IMO basic and important things to confirm and ask before making a booking; the agreed price, services offered (i.e., FK, GFE OWO ) without extra charge and if they're okay seeing black clients. That's pretty much it, usually done within a minute or so and all can be confirmed with either a simple "yes" or "no".

However, I much prefer using e-mails sent several days in advance of my desired booking date as an initial form of contact with an escort because I have time to write a proper introduction and brief detail of what I want and she can read and reply back to the e-mail in her own time and if anything refer back to it. Although in the case of the first escort she didn't have an available e-mail address and the second escort seemed too busy to deal with e-mails so I thought calling her was the best way to contact her.

Anyhow Sapient, maybe you have just had a run of bad luck with ladies that have bad attitudes, has this ever happened before?

I'm a no0b at punting so yes which is why I assumed it was my own phone manner that lead to the termination of the calls and I wanted to find out where I was going wrong and hopefully remedy the problem.

I would say it is a little 'drastic' Sapient that not one but two ladies have put the phone down/hung up on you- it does seem from your explanation that you may have been 'persistant' or repetitive ?

The last thing a lady wants to do is put the phone down, but if having someone that is so irritating on the other end of phone maybe had no option but to do this.........sorry to be so blunt.

No worries about being blunt and I agree it is a drastic that two ladies both decided to hung up on me, but I don't believe I was being rude, repetitive, persistant or irritating.

I would try emailing/texting or giving a little while, and ringing said ladies again, to ask them why they put the phone down- as after all it is only they that will know and can give you your answer- so you know where your going wrong in future.'.

I've tried calling both ladies in question back if anything just to know why they decided to terminate the calls so I prevent it happening in the future, but both ladies currently seem unwilling to accept any of my calls.

It is very rude and unprofessional to act in this manner, and also not a good way to conduct a business.

If it happened to me, and someone put the phone down on me- I would like a good valid explanation-

after all, if your only confirming fee's/booking why would there be a need for the phone to be 'hung up'.

The second escort that I phoned today actually seemed annoyed that I had even called her (within her listed available hours) to confirm the before leaving, still don't understand that.

4. When talking about services/costs always use the word "confirm". So something like, "Can you confirm that your price for 2 hours is still XXX"

Ah, maybe this is where the problem is, even though I thoroughly research a lady before I consider calling her I don't think I actually use the word "confirm" or mention where I found them. Probably leading them to believe I'm some sort of timewaster or wanker that doesn't have the courtesy to read info provided by a website/page/profile. I will have to revise my technique when dealing with escorts by phone.

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Sorry for generalising but independent WG's have a lot of phone call through the course of their career, and from experience have a pretty good idea, within a very short time, if they are speaking to a genuine customer or a timewaster.

You may have sounded nervous, or just over the top in trying to ascertain details, like someone looking for a free wankline number.

You have had a lot of feedback here from girls, good luck in the future.

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