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In any walk of life or profession, a significant percentage of people are sociopaths. And you certainly get some sociopathic WGs who seem to look upon punters as cash registers and do as little as they can get away with, regardless of what was agreed as part of the transaction.

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In any walk of life or profession, a significant percentage of people are sociopaths. And you certainly get some sociopathic WGs who seem to look upon punters as cash registers and do as little as they can get away with, regardless of what was agreed as part of the transaction.

I'm not sure that the behaviour you are describing is actually that of a sociopath is it?

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While not describing such conduct as sociopathic, I would also query whether a significant proportion of WGs have that outlook.

Someone with a better understanding of statistics than me should be able to say what a "significant" proportion is, but I think I'd prefer the term "tiny minority".

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Well just googled, and here's a sociopath profile...

* Glibness and Superficial Charm

* Manipulative and Conning

They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

* Grandiose Sense of Self

Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

* Pathological Lying

Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

* Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt

A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

* Shallow Emotions

When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

* Incapacity for Love

* Need for Stimulation

Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

* Callousness/Lack of Empathy

Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

* Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature

Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

* Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency

Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

* Irresponsibility/Unreliability

Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

* Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity

Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

* Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle

Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

* Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility

Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

Other Related Qualities:

1. Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them

2. Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them

3. Authoritarian

4. Secretive

5. Paranoid

6. Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired

7. Conventional appearance

8. Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)

9. Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life

10. Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)

11. Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim

12. Incapable of real human attachment to another

13. Unable to feel remorse or guilt

14. Extreme narcissism and grandiose

15. May state readily that their goal is to rule the world

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Well just googled, and here's a sociopath profile...

* Glibness and Superficial Charm

* Manipulative and Conning

They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

* Grandiose Sense of Self

Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

* Pathological Lying

Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

* Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt

A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

* Shallow Emotions

When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

* Incapacity for Love

* Need for Stimulation

Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

* Callousness/Lack of Empathy

Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

* Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature

Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

* Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency

Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

* Irresponsibility/Unreliability

Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

* Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity

Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

* Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle

Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

* Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility

Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

Other Related Qualities:

1. Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them

2. Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them

3. Authoritarian

4. Secretive

5. Paranoid

6. Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired

7. Conventional appearance

8. Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)

9. Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life

10. Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)

11. Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim

12. Incapable of real human attachment to another

13. Unable to feel remorse or guilt

14. Extreme narcissism and grandiose

15. May state readily that their goal is to rule the world

'Kin 'ell... sounds like a CSI profile of a punter. :) :) :D

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Well just googled, and here's a sociopath profile...

* Glibness and Superficial Charm

* Manipulative and Conning

They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

* Grandiose Sense of Self

Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

* Pathological Lying

Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

* Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt

A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

* Shallow Emotions

When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

* Incapacity for Love

* Need for Stimulation

Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

* Callousness/Lack of Empathy

Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

* Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature

Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

* Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency

Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

* Irresponsibility/Unreliability

Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

* Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity

Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

* Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle

Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

* Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility

Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

Other Related Qualities:

1. Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them

2. Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them

3. Authoritarian

4. Secretive

5. Paranoid

6. Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired

7. Conventional appearance

8. Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)

9. Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life

10. Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)

11. Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim

12. Incapable of real human attachment to another

13. Unable to feel remorse or guilt

14. Extreme narcissism and grandiose

15. May state readily that their goal is to rule the world

Just about covers every half pissed man whos ever tried to get into a girls draws.:)

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In any walk of life or profession, a significant percentage of people are sociopaths. And you certainly get some sociopathic WGs who seem to look upon punters as cash registers and do as little as they can get away with, regardless of what was agreed as part of the transaction.

I've just realised after reading the meaning of sociopath that it describes my Aunty lol. Oh dear!

I was wondering though, why are you starting a thread with a statement? Are you just imparting your belief or asking the forum collective if they agree?

I am also wondering why you have started a sentence with a connective.

Let's face it, as you have already stated, there are different levels of professionalism in every walk of life. However, there are not many where they are assessed openly for everyone to see. At least when looking for a wg you have the ability to check them out against reviews written and make (to a point) an informed decision. It is up to you do do the leg work though.

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In any walk of life or profession, a significant percentage of people are sociopaths. And you certainly get some sociopathic WGs who seem to look upon punters as cash registers and do as little as they can get away with, regardless of what was agreed as part of the transaction.

I don't blame them. Some of it must be horrific.

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Well just googled, and here's a sociopath profile...

* Glibness and Superficial Charm

* Manipulative and Conning

They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

* Grandiose Sense of Self

Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

* Pathological Lying

Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

* Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt

A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

* Shallow Emotions

When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

* Incapacity for Love

* Need for Stimulation

Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

* Callousness/Lack of Empathy

Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

* Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature

Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

* Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency

Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

* Irresponsibility/Unreliability

Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

* Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity

Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

* Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle

Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

* Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility

Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

Other Related Qualities:

1. Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them

2. Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them

3. Authoritarian

4. Secretive

5. Paranoid

6. Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired

7. Conventional appearance

8. Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)

9. Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life

10. Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)

11. Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim

12. Incapable of real human attachment to another

13. Unable to feel remorse or guilt

14. Extreme narcissism and grandiose

15. May state readily that their goal is to rule the world

Hey, it's so easy to knock sociopaths - but they must have some good points. :)

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Last edited by kissxkate; Today at 20:20. Reason: having dumplings for fingers

Best part of the thread so far. :)

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Hey, it's so easy to knock sociopaths - but they must have some good points. :)

yes of course - I can be quite charming - if its in my own interest

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What's wrong with wanting to rule the world?

:)

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I am also wondering why you have started a sentence with a connective.

But there's nothing wrong with using a connective to begin a sentence, so long as the sentence can be understood. Ooh, you are a strict one.

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What's wrong with wanting to rule the world?

:)

Nothing at all. As long as you promise to be a benevolent dictator, that is. :)

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While not describing such conduct as sociopathic, I would also query whether a significant proportion of WGs have that outlook.

Someone with a better understanding of statistics than me should be able to say what a "significant" proportion is, but I think I'd prefer the term "tiny minority".

I would agree with this. The vast majority of the girls I have met have been really lovely girls. This has been the one real eye opener for me since starting punting. I had always expected WGs were going to be hard nosed,cold and detatched. The opposite has been my experience. I did meet a very strange girl once, who might qualify as a sociopath, in fact I thought she was seriously disturbed ! I decided to avoid any action and to get her out of the hotel as soon as possible -- took me one and a half hours !!:):eek:

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I believe it's us men who turn these amazing ladies into "whatever they become"...

It's about time we all start to understand, we are all humans including working girls, all with our own problems... so be nice to all and I'm sure less "nutter" WGs will be encountered by all.

After all, dont we all drive our wives crazy.... imagine meeting lots of different husbands a day..... every day....

Im going for counselling .... it's cracking me up just thinking about it..

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I believe it's us men who turn these amazing ladies into "whatever they become"...

It's about time we all start to understand, we are all humans including working girls, all with our own problems... so be nice to all and I'm sure less "nutter" WGs will be encountered by all.

After all, dont we all drive our wives crazy.... imagine meeting lots of different husbands a day..... every day....

Im going for counselling .... it's cracking me up just thinking about it..

Cracks me up that here's yet another one who thinks it's all the punters' fault. Following this line of thinking then, the solution can only be that we all abandon punting. But what do you think all these 'amazing ladies' would do for a living?

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Well just googled, and here's a sociopath profile...

Being a border-line sociopath myself I would say that give or take the odd point or two, that is not far away from the truth.

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Being a border-line sociopath myself I would say that give or take the odd point or two, that is not far away from the truth.

Which side of the border are you?

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Hey, it's so easy to knock sociopaths - but they must have some good points. :)

I can open beer bottles without a bottle opener

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Some actively seek out some of those sociopathic qualities in a girl and pay good money for it :)

* Manipulative and Conning

domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims. - how much do pro dommes get paid?

* Pathological Lying

Fantasy/Role play

* Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity

A prerequisite to being a whore

2. Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them

4. Secretive

5. Paranoid

6. Only rarely in difficulty with the law,

7. Conventional appearance

14. Extreme narcissism - you have to be a little in this industry to believe you are worth money!

15. May state readily that their goal is to rule the world

And quite a few of the others the opposite would be nearer the mark.

S x

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Well just googled, and here's a sociopath profile...

* Glibness and Superficial Charm

* Manipulative and Conning

They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

* Grandiose Sense of Self

Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

* Pathological Lying

Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

* Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt

A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

* Shallow Emotions

When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

I only read the first six and I was already thinking Tony & Cherie Blair. :)

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I only read the first six and I was already thinking Tony & Cherie Blair. :)

Wouldn't shag either of 'em. :)

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Some actively seek out some of those sociopathic qualities in a girl and pay good money for it :)

* Manipulative and Conning

domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims. - how much do pro dommes get paid?

* Pathological Lying

Fantasy/Role play

* Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity

A prerequisite to being a whore

2. Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them

4. Secretive

5. Paranoid

6. Only rarely in difficulty with the law,

7. Conventional appearance

14. Extreme narcissism - you have to be a little in this industry to believe you are worth money!

15. May state readily that their goal is to rule the world

And quite a few of the others the opposite would be nearer the mark.

S x

LOL Sabrina :):P:p xxx

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While not describing such conduct as sociopathic, I would also query whether a significant proportion of WGs have that outlook.

Someone with a better understanding of statistics than me should be able to say what a "significant" proportion is, but I think I'd prefer the term "tiny minority".

Slightly off-topic ; I do remember reading somewhere that, at any point in time, c. 7% of the population have mental health problems sufficiently bad that they are (or should) be receiving treatment. There was no figures for sociopaths as a percentage of the population.

Given that we (board members) are presumably a big enough sample to be statistically significant, that would mean there are c. 900 board members in this position. I can only speculate as to whether the proportions are the same for those who actually post (as opposed to the lurkers) :)

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