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Seems like a couple of years ago some truly stunning girls could be booked for 150/hr. My last few punts have been huge disappointments though. Either photoshop airbrushing is getting cleverer or there is a real dropping of standards at that price range. anyone else feel the same?

What gives? I thought there was a recession? Surely we should be getting more and better girls at lower prices?

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Do you mean the £150 agency girls In London? I've not punted In London for some time, but looking at the agency sites, many of the hotter looking ladies are on the £200 rate.

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Do you mean the £150 agency girls In London? I've not punted In London for some time, but looking at the agency sites, many of the hotter looking ladies are on the £200 rate.

You can't go wrong with HOD in Kensington .

First class place with first class girls in one of the best Locations in the Uk and Europe ,and all for £120 per hour .

What you see on their site is what you get .

Try it Jerboa ,you will get hooked ....

Why do think i don't bother with Poland punting now ??????

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Seems like a couple of years ago some truly stunning girls could be booked for 150/hr. My last few punts have been huge disappointments though. Either photoshop airbrushing is getting cleverer or there is a real dropping of standards at that price range. anyone else feel the same?

What gives? I thought there was a recession? Surely we should be getting more and better girls at lower prices?

I never exceed the £150 hour mark and I have noticed no drop off in standards. As an example, I recently punted with Lilly at Barracuda (an agency I'm not altogether keen on) and she was excellent. Proper GFE and a really nice girl too.

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I wonder what you would have thought if it was 1995 and you suddenly saw the girls on Agency Barracuda on the internet (did we have internet then?). I think over that past decade the punter's expectation has really gone up. I don't know this personally but wonder what quality of hookers were available 20 years ago and what services did they offer?

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This is really interesting to see that you equate rates with beauty rather than service.

How is a wg supposed to know where she belongs on the sliding scale of beauty? And is she able to claw her way back up the scale by being skilled or offering more services within that rate?

Having started this later in life and knowing that I am a totally different kind of look to how I was, say 20 years ago (in some ways better, in some ways not) it is difficult to guage as I was under the impression that it was all in the eye of the beholder?

It's like a lot of things isn't it. It's only worth what you are willing to pay for it and where I may not consider something worth paying for, another person may be willing to pay a high price for it.

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I wonder what you would have thought if it was 1995 and you suddenly saw the girls on Agency Barracuda on the internet (did we have internet then?). I think over that past decade the punter's expectation has really gone up. I don't know this personally but wonder what quality of hookers were available 20 years ago and what services did they offer?

20 Years ago the top girls in London were working via 3 or 4 Madams. in London.

The best Madams at the time were,Turkish Layla, Mercedz,and another one operating out of Basil st ,Knightsbridge( Forgot her name ) .

The looks and quality of the girls were very high,with a lot of models,page 3 girls and international jet set girls looking for top contacts +quick bucks .

Dinner dates 3 to 4 hours were £300,and overnights £500.

I was single in my 20's ,and my wealthy lonely gambling cousin was more than happy to look after the paper work every time we found ourselves in London.

Did some lovely restaurants with them as welll , Mr Chow in Knightsbridge ,San Lorenzo etc.

I don't ever recall kissing or being French kissed by any of the girls ,not that i was expecting it or wanting to. French kissing was definetely not Kosher at the time ,nor was it on the menu.

Services were the usual suspects ,OWO.sex with condom.with some girls offering Anal at no extra charge.

I wasn't short of some pretty non working girls at the time ,but i must say being exposed to such fantastic looking girls and getting laid for free (paid for ) wasn't such great fun after all,but it did raise my benchmark for comparable looks in non wgs,and made me less tolerant ,if it wasn;'t a first nighter with a new date ,as i considered it a waste of time and money .

The internet age really changed all that now ,where you can actually read the menu beforhand and see the pictures..

I must say its all for the better now ,as you dont rely on word of mouth or the whims of a Madam.

Talikng to some friends and their top American escorts ,it seems that the era of some high class Madams is not over yet for some

The fear of being outed ,makes them stick to the tried and trusted route..

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You can't go wrong with HOD in Kensington .

First class place with first class girls in one of the best Locations in the Uk and Europe ,and all for £120 per hour .

What you see on their site is what you get .

Try it Jerboa ,you will get hooked ....

Why do think i don't bother with Poland punting now ??????

HOD you say......hmmmm I've herd of them. ;)

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HOD you say......hmmmm I've herd of them. ;)

Please, don't be sheepish about it ;)

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Seems like a couple of years ago some truly stunning girls could be booked for 150/hr. My last few punts have been huge disappointments though. Either photoshop airbrushing is getting cleverer or there is a real dropping of standards at that price range. anyone else feel the same?

What gives? I thought there was a recession? Surely we should be getting more and better girls at lower prices?

I can only speak from my own experiences, but I punt in London at £150 or less and all my punts this year have been excellent. I haven't come across any drop in standards for those rates - in fact, the opposite!

Were the WG's you've recently seen recommended in their FRs? Maybe you've been unlucky in your selection, or maybe your pre-punt research has let you down!

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I have never found a correlation between price and standards in Indies except at the really low end of the market price-wise.

In some cases, and geography plays a role here, the really cheap WGs are there because they cannot command more and there are often other factors at play. I am talking <£50 an hour. I would avoid them.

I would be very wary indeed of having a WG in the £1,000 an hour or more bracket as from what I have seen they have zero loyalty to their clients and will run to the papers if offered enough.

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20 Years ago the top girls in London were working via 3 or 4 Madams. in London.

The best Madams at the time were,Turkish Layla, Mercedz,and another one operating out of Basil st ,Knightsbridge( Forgot her name ) .

The looks and quality of the girls were very high,with a lot of models,page 3 girls and international jet set girls looking for top contacts +quick bucks .

Dinner dates 3 to 4 hours were £300,and overnights £500.

I was single in my 20's ,and my wealthy lonely gambling cousin was more than happy to look after the paper work every time we found ourselves in London.

Did some lovely restaurants with them as welll , Mr Chow in Knightsbridge ,San Lorenzo etc.

I don't ever recall kissing or being French kissed by any of the girls ,not that i was expecting it or wanting to. French kissing was definetely not Kosher at the time ,nor was it on the menu.

Services were the usual suspects ,OWO.sex with condom.with some girls offering Anal at no extra charge.

I wasn't short of some pretty non working girls at the time ,but i must say being exposed to such fantastic looking girls and getting laid for free (paid for ) wasn't such great fun after all,but it did raise my benchmark for comparable looks in non wgs,and made me less tolerant ,if it wasn;'t a first nighter with a new date ,as i considered it a waste of time and money .

The internet age really changed all that now ,where you can actually read the menu beforhand and see the pictures..

I must say its all for the better now ,as you dont rely on word of mouth or the whims of a Madam.

Talikng to some friends and their top American escorts ,it seems that the era of some high class Madams is not over yet for some

The fear of being outed ,makes them stick to the tried and trusted route..

Very interesting. Seems to me from what you say that availability was a lot less than it is now. So what did people who were in need of sex do? Was it a bad or a good thing I wonder.

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I think it's not so much standards dropping as that, in some areas (including Aberdeen) £150 is starting to be the norm, so naturally there are a lot more providers at that level and, as with any expanding market, not all are of the same standard. £150 certainly isn't the 'luxury' end of the affordable market anymore, but if you do your research properly you can still find plenty of very nice ladies providing superb services for considerably less than that.

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I think it's not so much standards dropping as that, in some areas (including Aberdeen) £150 is starting to be the norm, so naturally there are a lot more providers at that level and, as with any expanding market, not all are of the same standard. £150 certainly isn't the 'luxury' end of the affordable market anymore, but if you do your research properly you can still find plenty of very nice ladies providing superb services for considerably less than that.

I think you have put the question into perspective for me. It seems that it is a matter of wider choice. If in past times there was a lot less choice, then the type you are looking for would naturally be easier to find. Having more, does not mean there is less of your 'type' just that you have to sift through more of the ones that are not your type before you get to them.

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HOD you say......hmmmm I've herd of them. ;)

I am sure you herd.....of them ,and even used them,when they were in MK,but have you tried HOD in SK ???

You say that you have not punted in London for a long time ???

I am impressed by the overall setup in SK as well .

The same excellent customer service.

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I am sure you herd.....of them ,and even used them,when they were in MK,but have you tried HOD in SK ???

You say that you have not punted in London for a long time ???

I am impressed by the overall setup in SK as well .

The same excellent customer service.

Yes I've not punted In London for some time, as all I need Is nearby In MK.

But If I did take a trip down to the smoke, and fancied a punt, then HoD would be my first choice. ;)

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Very interesting. Seems to me from what you say that availability was a lot less than it is now. So what did people who were in need of sex do? Was it a bad or a good thing I wonder.

There were a l lot of girls even then ,but nearly all were British.

It wasn't so much in your face as it is now with the Internet. There were the secort egencies,one of ,the oldest and still going Chelsea Escorts in Beauchamp place,knoghtsbridge .

Incall parlours were less then now ,i do recall one located at (Colbeck Mews, South Kensington),run by an English Madam called Laura aka Bridget .

2004 With the EE countries joining the EU ,and the huge influx of EE girls ,mainly Polish,changed the punting market in the UK ,and in my opinion for the better ,price wise.,tilting the market in the punter's favour..

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Things have changed since the Eastern Euros arrived, but there were plenty of them working here long before 2004, Romanians were described as "Italian" or "Spanish", Poles and Baltics as "Swedish" ;)

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There were a l lot of girls even then ,but nearly all were British.

It wasn't so much in your face as it is now with the Internet. There were the secort egencies,one of ,the oldest and still going Chelsea Escorts in Beauchamp place,knoghtsbridge .

Incall parlours were less then now ,i do recall one located at (Colbeck Mews, South Kensington),run by an English Madam called Laura aka Bridget .

2004 With the EE countries joining the EU ,and the huge influx of EE girls ,mainly Polish,changed the punting market in the UK ,and in my opinion for the better ,price wise.,tilting the market in the punter's favour..

My first every experience was in a walk-up in Soho in 1992 with an English MILF. Cant remember but it must have been for 15-20 quid ;) She looked fine and provided a basic service but was ever so kind and gentle. I though that was a great experience but I was easily pleased those days. I then went on to visit others in the area and being young (and handsome!) and always well dressed I did always get a good covered service and at times DFK thrown in for good measures. I soon stopped punting in the UK as my travels opened completely new horizon to punting (cheap and very high quality) only to return to UK punting towards the end of 90's by which time it was already full of EEs in the UK.

In my experience, in early 2000 the prices were comparable to today for established agencies and new agencies would offer discounts. One always tends to think that old days were better but that is our nature and the expectation grows. Even now I sometime see regulars at 130 who are young, gorgeous, nothing is too much trouble and time is never mentioned (within reason) so what else can a man ask for.

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Funny you should mention Soho walk ups.

We were a group of college students (High School ) in London for a short

summer holiday

We were mainly in the age group 16/17 ,staying at the Regent Palace Hotel ,on Piccadilly Circus

The first thing that caught our attention at the time ,that there were no en suite shower facilities in the rooms .

There were shared Bathrooms ,and it was a bit of a struggle trying to adjust to washing without a powerful shower overhead .

The second thing that we discovered was Raymond Revue Bar in Soho .and the RLD ,Soho walk UPS .

Being taller we looked older than our real ages ,sothe 2 of us managed to sneak in to watch The show at Raymond Revue .

Feeling really frisky afterwards,i and the friend went in to the walk up .

I still remember the maid's words , when she let us in calling the girl on duty ..

(They are over here ,but they are not overfat or overpaid ).....

London,now is the Fun ,Food and punting capital of the world ,with all the variety on offer .

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Seems like a couple of years ago some truly stunning girls could be booked for 150/hr. My last few punts have been huge disappointments though. Either photoshop airbrushing is getting cleverer or there is a real dropping of standards at that price range. anyone else feel the same?

What gives? I thought there was a recession? Surely we should be getting more and better girls at lower prices?

A recession may well mean we get more girls but by no means will it necessarily give us better girls.

In fact, during hard times people will generally tend to resort to ever more desperate deeds to secure an income, hence your recent Photshop nightmares of late.

Vigilance and research is key if we are to stay ahead of the con merchants I feel.;) Or just stick to your regular.

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I still remember the maid's words , when she let us in calling the girl on duty ..

(They are over here ,but they are not overfat or overpaid ).....

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To give due late credit to the maid in Question ,her actual words were (They are over here ,but they are not overweight or overpaid ).

I really love the English maids in soho Walk ups .

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