Mr Natural

"It's not faking"

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I've had a couple of quickie massage parlour experiences in the last year where I said to the girl 'You don't have to fake anything' as we started the encounter.

I thought this was a nice way of putting it...not outright calling her fake, letting her know that I wasn't a sap, and implying that my preference was for no faking.

However on these two occasions, the girl said 'This isn't faking, baby'. What's that about then?

The first time, the girl was making these weird mooing sounds like cattle gently lowing, constantly repeated every second, so unless she has friesan DNA I find it hard to believe it was real.

The second was a soho walkup and she was all business, so find it hard to believe she got all turned on as soon as the 10 mins started.

I would have thought it was a relief to not have to fake, but is it something the girls need in some way? Is it best to let them do it, even though it can be offputting?

Should I ask outright and say I don't like a lot of noise? Another time in the past a girl said moodily 'should I just lie here and do nothing then'

We may not all see eye to eye on some issues, but believe it or not, there's nothing particularly unusual or offputting about me as a punter.

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We may not all see eye to eye on some issues, but believe it or not, there's nothing particularly unusual or offputting about me as a punter.

Interesting, I've sure you're right, but how do you know, how would anyone know ?

I find a lot of noise offputting as well, but i never like to say anything, but then i'm dead quiet myself.

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Interesting, I've sure you're right, but how do you know, how would anyone know ?

You can tell when a wg is genuinely getting turned on when she exhibits the impossible to fake physical symptoms of arousal such as getting wet, her cheeks and face reddening and when all that's accompanied by her, overall becoming hot, sweaty and out of breath its usually the real thing.

There's nothing better than a truly, naturally lusty girl's real and natural, soft moaning and gasping.

3 oriental girls stand out in my mind when I think about this and they just seem to be inherently horny lovers of sex :) (what more could u ask for when they're so damn good at it too !)

I remember one time being so taken aback by how turned on one girl was getting that I said to her "wow....you really DO enjoy this don't you ?"

She seemed a bit 'slighted' by this and replied "well, why shouldnt I, its good to enjoy your job isnt it ?"

She probably thought I was implying that its somehow 'wrong' for a woman to enjoy sex - i certainly wasn't !!

(When this girl got horny all the tell-tale physical signs were there but uniquely, in my experience so far, I could also, strongly, literally smell her increasing arousal !)

The fake moaners are usually easy to spot and i just find it comical generally.

Much better if they just didnt bother with all of that - i never bother seeing the obvious fakers again, unless they have some other attraction such as phenomenal oral technique.

I've had previous girlfriends (including my current partner) who when I make them come manually, their vaginal muscles contract and squeeze my fingers like a little fist opening and closing tightly, and they're 'squirters' too - would think thats pretty hard to fake :P

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You can tell when a wg is genuinely getting turned on when she exhibits the impossible to fake physical symptoms of arousal such as getting wet, her cheeks and face reddening and when all that's accompanied by her, overall becoming hot, sweaty and out of breath its usually the real thing.

No Mr Goldberg, when i said how would you know, I was refering to the OP's remark about him not being an unusual or off putting punter, not how would you know when your companion is actually getting excited for real.

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I've had WGs make a fair bit of noise. They weren't having an orgasm, just having a good time, I think. It sounded fairly real. I've certainly known some who got sloppy wet.

The fakest thing I've ever heard is in low-end porn, where women say "yeah, baby" like a metronome every three seconds. Ugh.

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The fakest thing I've ever heard is in low-end porn, where women say "yeah, baby" like a metronome every three seconds. Ugh.

Thought that was Austin Powers.

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No Mr Goldberg, when i said how would you know, I was refering to the OP's remark about him not being an unusual or off putting punter, not how would you know when your companion is actually getting excited for real.

:) Oh right !!

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I had some girls that start with the obvious performance and then some way into the act when I'm getting into my groove I can see that change in them that I'm really getting them turned on.

I dont like over the top fakers (one girl started the moaning when I just touched her arm :)) I rather preffer the HMMM yes, and some heavy breathing really. Somtimes I'm just a lazy shagger and dont put in much effort.

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A girl I saw recently got super-sloppy wet, but was making a lot of fake-sounding noises as well. I want to see her again but would prefer it without the apparent fakeness, not sure if I should say anything or not.

As a guy I'm not really sure; does wetness definitely imply they're turned on and enjoying it, or is it a natural reaction to being touched there, even if they're having a crap time?

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I am often asked 'do you really enjoy what you do?' before the session takes place, but if they waited till after..they really wouldn't need to ask. ;) Alot of men I meet seem genuinely suprised by how much I enjoy it and sometimes I do wonder if they think I shouldn't! :)

I can only remember faking once, and that was with an ex partner who needed a bit of encouragement as he learnt the art of cunilingus. It wasn't so much faking, more.. enhancing, and it did the job nicely :P

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A girl I saw recently got super-sloppy wet, but was making a lot of fake-sounding noises as well. I want to see her again but would prefer it without the apparent fakeness, not sure if I should say anything or not.

As a guy I'm not really sure; does wetness definitely imply they're turned on and enjoying it, or is it a natural reaction to being touched there, even if they're having a crap time?

If she is not enjoying it then she will be dry.

Women produce a secretion when turned on which is why they get wet.

Like you produce pre-cum women produce this secretion to allow an easier penetration.

If they are not turned on they do not produce this.

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If she is not enjoying it then she will be dry.

Women produce a secretion when turned on which is why they get wet.

Like you produce pre-cum women produce this secretion to allow an easier penetration.

If they are not turned on they do not produce this.

Woop, thought so, just checking.

Can't say I've ever experienced this "dry" you talk of. "Sopping wet" seems a better description, I must be doing it right :)

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Woop, thought so, just checking.

Can't say I've ever experienced this "dry" you talk of. "Sopping wet" seems a better description, I must be doing it right :D

Unless it's all saliva from your tongue lashing you gave her :rolleyes:

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Unless it's all saliva from your tongue lashing you gave her :rolleyes:

Haha :D My spit doesn't taste that good I feel!

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I used to see a beautiful girl from maxes angels who told me on a few occassions that I made her tingle all over.

I tried to take it as a compliment but wasn't sure if she meant it.

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Haha :rolleyes: My spit doesn't taste that good I feel!

If we are being honest, perhaps we probably all want with some element of faking.We all want a welcoming smile, good attitude and signals that the lady is enjoying our company and sexual attentions. Would most of us be happy with a lady who just politely goes thru' the motions with a blankness and neutral attitude ? Dont think so -- we all want , indeed require, some acting to keep the show on the road. What I think we dont want is a performance that makes us realise that it actually is a performance.The girls are caught between a rock and a hard place on this one. Its not faking thats the problem, its being caught over-faking ! :D

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I've had a couple of quickie massage parlour experiences in the last year where I said to the girl 'You don't have to fake anything' as we started the encounter.

I thought this was a nice way of putting it...not outright calling her fake, letting her know that I wasn't a sap, and implying that my preference was for no faking.

However on these two occasions, the girl said 'This isn't faking, baby'. What's that about then?

The first time, the girl was making these weird mooing sounds like cattle gently lowing, constantly repeated every second, so unless she has friesan DNA I find it hard to believe it was real.

The second was a soho walkup and she was all business, so find it hard to believe she got all turned on as soon as the 10 mins started.

I would have thought it was a relief to not have to fake, but is it something the girls need in some way? Is it best to let them do it, even though it can be offputting?

Should I ask outright and say I don't like a lot of noise? Another time in the past a girl said moodily 'should I just lie here and do nothing then'

We may not all see eye to eye on some issues, but believe it or not, there's nothing particularly unusual or offputting about me as a punter.

It can be a turn off if you are making noises because you really are enjoying it and the guy turns round and says "you dont have to pretend"

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It can be a turn off if you are making noises because you really are enjoying it and the guy turns round and says "you dont have to pretend"

I agree with that, it makes me incredibly self consious of any noise I do make incase it is a put off for him.

Maybe, just maybe.. the girl IS welcoming and friendly, polite and genuinely sexually excited. :rolleyes: I'm very easily excited and I find the whole situation is a huge turn on for me, I don't need to perform or run to any script, it's so much easier and so much more fun to go with the flow and enjoy!

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When I first started out I used to fake orgasms. I figured most men want to know that they're doing a good job, and even though they're paying for it a lot of clients seem to need the validation that you are enjoying yourself.

Truth is I love my work and wouldn't want to do anything else. I do have a high sex drive and I do like to have a lot of sex. But, I have play partners and I have a husband (as of two weeks ago :D). I also like to keep myself busy - I'm not the type of lady to only see one or two clients a week :rolleyes: So, however good a person may be I'm not always going to orgasm, and sometimes I can't even get turned on.

I always enjoy sex even if I'm not genuinely aroused - I like the experience, I like pleasing another person, and yeah I like the money. And if I don't click with a person it's not because there's anything wrong with them - we might just not have natural chemistry - or I might just be not in the right place for things to be sizzling hot.

So I don't fake orgasms - but if I'm not quite getting into it then I'll fake a little enthusiasm. I feel that part of my job is to provide an experience, not just a hole. There's a few guys who just want to cum and go, and usually I won't put on much of an act for the 15 minute types because it's not what they're looking for (and it's unbelievable - very few women can get turned on just like that in such a short time). But if you're offering the GFE you can't just go through the motions - if you can't feel it for real then you need to be able to act.

If a client asked me not to fake anything, I'd probably still do a little harmless exaggeration because in my experience, men who pay for sex aren't looking for truth - just something that they can believe in for an hour or so. If a client said he really didn't want any noise then that wouldn't be a problem - good communication means everyone gets what they want :o

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When I first started out I used to fake orgasms. I figured most men want to know that they're doing a good job, and even though they're paying for it a lot of clients seem to need the validation that you are enjoying yourself.

Truth is I love my work and wouldn't want to do anything else. I do have a high sex drive and I do like to have a lot of sex. But, I have play partners and I have a husband (as of two weeks ago :D). I also like to keep myself busy - I'm not the type of lady to only see one or two clients a week :rolleyes: So, however good a person may be I'm not always going to orgasm, and sometimes I can't even get turned on.

I always enjoy sex even if I'm not genuinely aroused - I like the experience, I like pleasing another person, and yeah I like the money. And if I don't click with a person it's not because there's anything wrong with them - we might just not have natural chemistry - or I might just be not in the right place for things to be sizzling hot.

So I don't fake orgasms - but if I'm not quite getting into it then I'll fake a little enthusiasm. I feel that part of my job is to provide an experience, not just a hole. There's a few guys who just want to cum and go, and usually I won't put on much of an act for the 15 minute types because it's not what they're looking for (and it's unbelievable - very few women can get turned on just like that in such a short time). But if you're offering the GFE you can't just go through the motions - if you can't feel it for real then you need to be able to act.

If a client asked me not to fake anything, I'd probably still do a little harmless exaggeration because in my experience, men who pay for sex aren't looking for truth - just something that they can believe in for an hour or so. If a client said he really didn't want any noise then that wouldn't be a problem - good communication means everyone gets what they want :o

I'd say that was a pretty good policy generally.

I rarely do the 15 minute quickie. When I do, I really don't need any form of faking because I know full well that it's unlikely the woman can get properly aroused in that short space of time. All I want then, is two tits to suck, a neck to nuzzle and a hole to unload my spunk. However, I much prefer longer bookings, both for full sex or sensual massage, where there is more time and more interaction for a mutually satisfying experience (even if ultimately the one who pays gets the most enjoyment from it).

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I agree with that, it makes me incredibly self consious of any noise I do make incase it is a put off for him.

Maybe, just maybe.. the girl IS welcoming and friendly, polite and genuinely sexually excited. :rolleyes: I'm very easily excited and I find the whole situation is a huge turn on for me, I don't need to perform or run to any script, it's so much easier and so much more fun to go with the flow and enjoy!

As an older punter, I am harder to persuade while having FS because there's often the unstated question 'will he or won't he' hanging in the air. However, when it comes to RO or DATY, I readily accept both all verbal and nonverbal evidence of success without question. The total GFE, including the ingenuity and creativity that cums from years of experience, usually seems to work out nicely for both players.:D

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A regular of mine, back in the day, ooooh, months ago. Not that I was faking, but my pre-cum face being very agonised, and really, really trying to, he went - lie back and relax, no rush, you don't have to come but as long as you're enjoying it....I bloody am, etc [appreciative mumbling and slurping].

Then, I did.

Pressure to perform is a bit counter productive, isn't it, cuts both ways. Bit like pointing at a limp cock and laughing. Civilian encounter, someone asked me, between thrusts, whether I was anywhere near yet? a bit accusingly because he was clearly an infallible stud. Well, if I was, I wouldn't have been after that.

There's a long list of pointers that have been posted in the past, to judge a genuine fanny rumble.

Splayed toes, perspiration on the upper lip...

I never came every time, but my handy Hitachi ensured that I nearly did, not wanting to waste a cock in the room and not liking rampant rabbits. It's good to have someone there with the attitude that enjoying yourself is the main thing, and if you cum, it's a bonus, from something for once that isn't wired into mains electricity.

I know that sounds fluffy, but the two camps of punters who care about ladies getting off, I found tend to think along these lines:

1) They damn well should, I am hung like a donkey and I AM ZEUS,

2) Oooh, it would be lovely if I could get her to squint.

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If she is not enjoying it then she will be dry.

Women produce a secretion when turned on which is why they get wet.

Like you produce pre-cum women produce this secretion to allow an easier penetration.

If they are not turned on they do not produce this.

Thanks for clarifying that one. You weren't my GCSE Biology teacher were you? :rolleyes:

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A regular of mine, back in the day, ooooh, months ago. Not that I was faking, but my pre-cum face being very agonised, and really, really trying to, he went - lie back and relax, no rush, you don't have to come but as long as you're enjoying it....I bloody am, etc [appreciative mumbling and slurping].

Then, I did.

Pressure to perform is a bit counter productive, isn't it, cuts both ways. Bit like pointing at a limp cock and laughing. Civilian encounter, someone asked me, between thrusts, whether I was anywhere near yet? a bit accusingly because he was clearly an infallible stud. Well, if I was, I wouldn't have been after that.

There's a long list of pointers that have been posted in the past, to judge a genuine fanny rumble.

Splayed toes, perspiration on the upper lip...

I never came every time, but my handy Hitachi ensured that I nearly did, not wanting to waste a cock in the room and not liking rampant rabbits. It's good to have someone there with the attitude that enjoying yourself is the main thing, and if you cum, it's a bonus, from something for once that isn't wired into mains electricity.

I know that sounds fluffy, but the two camps of punters who care about ladies getting off, I found tend to think along these lines:

1) They damn well should, I am hung like a donkey and I AM ZEUS,

2) Oooh, it would be lovely if I could get her to squint.

:eek::D Is that 'squint' or do you really mean 'squirt' ??

(never thought shining a light in someone's eye could make them curl their toes while tearing a pillow in half)

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Yes wetness is a sign of arousal, but a significant no of women just dont get that wet. Its a bit of a taboo subject in my experience. No women likes to be told that they are not very wet, but some areas dry as a nun, no matter what foreplay you try. Noise is fine, as long as it seems genuine, a tricky one that. The "minor operation without anasthetic," is especially annoying.

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