The Dean

Delusional punters

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Does anyone else think they are different? not like all the other creeps?

Doing this with good intentions? really caring for the wg they are with? hoping that she sees you as different to the rest of the guys? special if you like?

HEY, that was me, until I discovered, "get over yourself, you don't mean anything to them!!!" (Sorry, sounds like a cheesy American infomercial)

Having the realisation that you are just like everyone else, and the fact that she treats everyone the same is the best thing that ever happened to me in my punting life.

You can't sugar coat what you are doing, there are no legitimate reasons, only poorly thought out excuses.

I am very considerate and kind to the girls, make sure I am clean, respectable and well mannered, I always ask first and never force anything on them, and that's ALL they want from you, because at the end of the day they see us as all the same, put up with our bull shit on why we do this, listen to our sob storeys of how we are not happy.

It is very hard to come to terms that everything they say and do is an act, part of the show, it took me a while, falling for a wg is very easy, especially when you are new, I have read so many post from people thinking they have found love, if you are the kinda guy to fall in love very quickly, then this hobby is not for you, it can mess with you head, BIG time, nearly happened to me once.

Step back and look at the bigger picture, and enjoy your time with the girls, because thats part of the deal, pay for your time, walk away, the end, no emotions.

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Does anyone else think they are different? not like all the other creeps?

Doing this with good intentions? really caring for the wg they are with? hoping that she sees you as different to the rest of the guys? special if you like?

HEY, that was me, until I discovered, "get over yourself, you don't mean anything to them!!!" (Sorry, sounds like a cheesy American infomercial)

Having the realisation that you are just like everyone else, and the fact that she treats everyone the same is the best thing that ever happened to me in my punting life.

You can't sugar coat what you are doing, there are no legitimate reasons, only poorly thought out excuses.

I am very considerate and kind to the girls, make sure I am clean, respectable and well mannered, I always ask first and never force anything on them, and that's ALL they want from you, because at the end of the day they see us as all the same, put up with our bull shit on why we do this, listen to our sob storeys of how we are not happy.

It is very hard to come to terms that everything they say and do is an act, part of the show, it took me a while, falling for a wg is very easy, especially when you are new, I have read so many post from people thinking they have found love, if you are the kinda guy to fall in love very quickly, then this hobby is not for you, it can mess with you head, BIG time, nearly happened to me once.

Step back and look at the bigger picture, and enjoy your time with the girls, because thats part of the deal, pay for your time, walk away, the end, no emotions.

I guess I must be 'different' to some, in that I can happily punt, while retaining a genuine fondness for, without falling in love with, my regular and best 'service providers', firmly in the knowledge that its essentially a business transaction for the provision of pleasure.

I never give wgs 'sob stories' nor try to 'justify' and explain to them why I pay them for sex, because i dont feel I need to provide any sort of 'moral' justification for paying them for sex, nor do I suffer any of the 'punter guilt' that seems to be, surprisingly to me within such an arena, fairly prevalent, whether I'm punting whilst in a relationship or not.

I gladly pay the best wgs for an hour of their time, whether theyre great actresses pretending/genuinely enjoying their time with me, or a bit of both, is immaterial to me, so long as I receive an hour of sexual pleasure and pampering in the company of an attractive, personable girl then I'm happy, and I can leave afterwards, happy.

And most of all I certainly dont and wouldnt punt to try and fill any 'emotional voids' or bouts of unhappiness within my life.

A certain forum member says it so succinctly with his signature :

'Punt happily, or dont punt'

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Does anyone else think they are different? not like all the other creeps?

Doing this with good intentions? really caring for the wg they are with? hoping that she sees you as different to the rest of the guys? special if you like?

HEY, that was me, until I discovered, "get over yourself, you don't mean anything to them!!!" (Sorry, sounds like a cheesy American infomercial)

Having the realisation that you are just like everyone else, and the fact that she treats everyone the same is the best thing that ever happened to me in my punting life.

You can't sugar coat what you are doing, there are no legitimate reasons, only poorly thought out excuses.

I am very considerate and kind to the girls, make sure I am clean, respectable and well mannered, I always ask first and never force anything on them, and that's ALL they want from you, because at the end of the day they see us as all the same, put up with our bull shit on why we do this, listen to our sob storeys of how we are not happy.

It is very hard to come to terms that everything they say and do is an act, part of the show, it took me a while, falling for a wg is very easy, especially when you are new, I have read so many post from people thinking they have found love, if you are the kinda guy to fall in love very quickly, then this hobby is not for you, it can mess with you head, BIG time, nearly happened to me once.

Step back and look at the bigger picture, and enjoy your time with the girls, because thats part of the deal, pay for your time, walk away, the end, no emotions.

A slightly different slant.

I am VERY different from other guys. But then we all are.

The girls are in a business and will always see a client in a particular way; as a means of making money in hopefully, an enjoyable way.

I am under no illusion that I will be seen as a generally OK punter who is reasonably polite and makes some kind of effort................period.

However, as in any walk of life you can build friendships and create a relationship of sorts.

And emotions do come into it. Sex without emotion may as well be a wank as as far as I'm concerned............a lot cheaper.

I think too many bandy the 'No emotions' banner too readily which sometimes makes me wonder.

So I'll enjoy the emotional connections that I get and enjoy the emotional side of it.

But I'll keep a weather eye on the reality and perspective too as this can be an emotionally dangerous enterprise for all those who get involved.

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Does anyone else think they are different? not like all the other creeps?

Doing this with good intentions? really caring for the wg they are with? hoping that she sees you as different to the rest of the guys? special if you like?

HEY, that was me, until I discovered, "get over yourself, you don't mean anything to them!!!" (Sorry, sounds like a cheesy American infomercial)

Having the realisation that you are just like everyone else, and the fact that she treats everyone the same is the best thing that ever happened to me in my punting life.

You can't sugar coat what you are doing, there are no legitimate reasons, only poorly thought out excuses.

I am very considerate and kind to the girls, make sure I am clean, respectable and well mannered, I always ask first and never force anything on them, and that's ALL they want from you, because at the end of the day they see us as all the same, put up with our bull shit on why we do this, listen to our sob storeys of how we are not happy.

It is very hard to come to terms that everything they say and do is an act, part of the show, it took me a while, falling for a wg is very easy, especially when you are new, I have read so many post from people thinking they have found love, if you are the kinda guy to fall in love very quickly, then this hobby is not for you, it can mess with you head, BIG time, nearly happened to me once.

Step back and look at the bigger picture, and enjoy your time with the girls, because thats part of the deal, pay for your time, walk away, the end, no emotions.

Obviously You aren't being stereotypical in anyway shape or form, and you must know an awful lot of Wg's very personally to be able to say that is what we all think!!!:D

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I agree there is no need to try and justify anything. We shouldn't be guilty, if we are we should stop.

With regular WG's or ones who live up to their pictures I always make an effort to compliment her, tell her how beautiful she looks today, how pretty her dress / lingerie is, pick parts of her body for positive comment as the hour or two moves on.

I genuinely mean it and I hope it is appreciated, you don't have to spend the whole meeting complimenting just part of it.

Girls do you appreciate compliments or not?

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I guess I must be 'different' to some, in that I can happily punt, while retaining a genuine fondness for, without falling in love with, my regular and best 'service providers', firmly in the knowledge that its essentially a business transaction for the provision of pleasure.

I never give wgs 'sob stories' nor try to 'justify' and explain to them why I pay them for sex, because i dont feel I need to provide any sort of 'moral' justification for paying them for sex, nor do I suffer any of the 'punter guilt' that seems to be, surprisingly to me within such an arena, fairly prevalent, whether I'm punting whilst in a relationship or not.

I gladly pay the best wgs for an hour of their time, whether theyre great actresses pretending/genuinely enjoying their time with me, or a bit of both, is immaterial to me, so long as I receive an hour of sexual pleasure and pampering in the company of an attractive, personable girl then I'm happy, and I can leave afterwards, happy.

And most of all I certainly dont and wouldnt punt to try and fill any 'emotional voids' or bouts of unhappiness within my life.

A certain forum member says it so succinctly with his signature :

'Punt happily, or dont punt'

Change that to 'I can happily hook' and you have how I and many other girls feel about it.

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Obviously You aren't being stereotypical in anyway shape or form, and you must know an awful lot of Wg's very personally to be able to say that is what we all think!!!:D

I did not intend to state that "I know what you all think" it's just that for wg's it's your job, you girls seem very well grounded, and know the score, for us guys we can let emotions get the better of us, you don't know what a pretty girls does to us guys, and I was just trying to emphasise this so we are all on a level playing field, even the most hardened of men can turn fluffy when in the presents of a beautiful girl.

Sorry, didn't me to generalise, or offend anyone, just I have fallen into this trap before and once you realise the "rules of engagement" it makes it a lot easier for both parties.

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Many may think that I am deluded, but that has nothing to do with my punting, but rather more to do with my job :D and associated imaginary friends :D

As observed above, punting is essentially a commercial transaction, but there is imo some scope for blurring at the edges without needing to descend into full-blown delusion.

If I meet someone who I particularly like, and who seems to like me, then I no longer think of our "relationship" as purely "business", but more that of a time-share mistress. We are not in love, and we certainly don't want to live in each others pockets let alone have children :rolleyes:, but we enjoy spending a bit of time together every now and then. That time will still contain a commercial element, but there will be an element of friendship too, sufficient for us to have a nice meal together without me having to pay to watch her eat :mad:

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I did not intend to state that "I know what you all think" it's just that for wg's it's your job, you girls seem very well grounded, and know the score, for us guys we can let emotions get the better of us, you don't know what a pretty girls does to us guys, and I was just trying to emphasise this so we are all on a level playing field, even the most hardened of men can turn fluffy when in the presents of a beautiful girl.

Sorry, didn't me to generalise, or offend anyone, just I have fallen into this trap before and once you realise the "rules of engagement" it makes it a lot easier for both parties.

Its also true, although probably rarer, that wgs can fall for clients, another of the realities of a business that deals in such a fundamental aspect of often complex human behaviour.

'Both sides' need to be of a 'certain stable mentality' in order to keep things 'emotionally safe'.

Im sure even the 'hardest' wgs have succumbed to this 'pitfall', which neednt always be such a bad thing and is probably in some cases an inevitable aspect of the job.

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I have two WG's that I see regularly and regard as my friends, I don't know if I'm being delusional or not?

One of them, we quite often go for a meal after our bedroom time, I pick up the bill but it's in her own time. The other has told me a lot of things about her, I speak to her on facebook, I know her real name and she showed me her modeling website (she keeps escorting separate and secrete from the rest of her life). Again, I pay for an hours bedroom time but usual stay a lot longer and chat over a cuppa. I know that both of them do this with very few of their clients or at least that's what they told me, so I do feel a little bit special.

As I don't have a gf/wive/partner, maybe it's that they take pitty on me, I'd like to think that they like me, I guess I'll probably never know this foresure. I enjoy my extra-time with them and am not going to turn it down!

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Even if you accept someone considers you "nothing to them" it doesn't mean you treat them in a disrespectful way or consider them lesser people than you, in my book. For me you should aim to treat all people in a respectful way, friend or foe.

If you are saying most or all of the WG's are not "in love" with their clients, well I think that is self evident.

As for people needing "legitimate reasons", for what exactly? There is no unlawful issues here and who exactly sets moral standards on sex to judge what is or isn't proper?

If you feel there are legitimate and illlegitimate aspects to what you do, that is between you and your morality, not one set code for you to impose on all people.

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I fancy my regular lady like crazy and she knows it. We exchange gifts, we txt each other 10 or 15 times a day and we talk about all sorts of personal and family stuff. I honestly believe that she does not lie in bed every night sending txt messages to each of her regulars.

I think that its the dream that there could be something else in the future that keeps me going back. Either one day something will happen or I will get a sign that there are no hopes at which point I will walk away.

In the meantime I continue to really enjoy my punts feeling that little bit special and perhaps flattering myself that a stunning 25 year old actually fancies somebody twice her age (although I have to admit that I am stunningly good looking even if I say so myself).

Koos

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"you don't mean anything to them!!!" ....well, that is not always the case.

I have had genuine relationships with a few 'working girls', those girls we seem to 'click'.

I am not trying to be conceited, but women do seem to like me.

I don't really know why.

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Spliffy and koos

Do the girls you see still ask for money or are you sooooo good looking and they love you sooooo much they offer their services for free?

...........I wonder how many of their other clients feel the same as you?

Damn those girls are good at their job :D

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When I say 'relationships'....NO money changes hands.

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By the way Dean, I never said that I was 'sooooo good looking'.

For you to assume that, you can't be !

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Just as shop assistants fancy their customers, or nurses for that matter,fancy their patients some girls fancy some clients. But some of us you are right, are prone to falling in love at the slightest encouragement, and some girls will milk this. At the beginning I certainly assumed that all other customers were weirdoes, but they are a wide cross-section of society. Only today a girl I saw told me a customer she liked, had asked her out, she was pleased though she had no intention of taking him up on his offer. She is 26, and the punter is 25. She has a boyfriend, and the customer has a girl friend.

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Just read the title of the thread guys........it says it all........I thank you :D

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Just read the title of the thread guys........it says it all........I thank you :D

Are you saying that guys are being delusional, just, if they think a WG loves or fancies them, or our you including guys who think they have any sort of friendship with a WG?

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Surely this is like the relationship between pub landlord and his customers. Ok there is the commercial transaction.

but a good landlord will chat to his customers, and will probably get on fairly well with some of them.

so a wg, while doing a commercial transaction, can still enjoy punters comepany, I would hope. Not all wgs. are waiting for the punter to fuck off, i hope.

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Surely this is like the relationship between pub landlord and his customers. Ok there is the commercial transaction.

but a good landlord will chat to his customers, and will probably get on fairly well with some of them.

so a wg, while doing a commercial transaction, can still enjoy punters comepany, I would hope. Not all wgs. are waiting for the punter to fuck off, i hope.

I was with you there until your last sentence.!

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It is her business to be nice, repeat customers is what brings in the money, as long as you are a half decent bloke, clean etc, she is going to be nice. wg's say to me, i'm glad you came back, I was thinking about you, I hope you stay longer next time or I think you are really special, some girls give me their personal number to contact them directly not via the agency, but I will never take it for more than "good business" on the girls behalf.

some people on here are really taking offence to this thread, everyone believes they have something special with their wg, sure some guys will develope relationships with these girls which is great (can't see it lasting, everyone loves a wg, but when she is you girlfriend, do you want her to be a wg?......thought not) and this is the whole point to this thread, you're no more special than the next guy!!! sure you can get friendly with the girls, have a great time together, some of the girls I meet are really great to just be around and talk to, but you have to understand, you are paying for this service, do you think they would want to spend an hour with you if you didn't pay them.

Now lets see who want to disagree this time, you really can't please everyone, this is just my opionion.

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I'm sure there are delusional men who think they are in with a chance, so to speak. I'm not one of them.

I do think that courtesy and politeness from both the WG and the man visiting should be the norm.

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"She treats everyone else the same etc etc"

Pah. When I'm punting "everyone else" is the last thing on my mind. It's about the moment. When you're there, you're at ease and there is good conversation and some sort of connection it's fantastic.

At work I have client relationships and I'm nice to all of them. Sometimes when you are on site for few days it can be exhausting. I don't think they are loosing any sleep wondering if I'm the same with all my clients and neither am I with regards to punting.

She's probably nice everyone? Yes, so am I.

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I don't think of clients as losers, unless they do something that would classify them as such. Basically I take chaps as they come(no pun!!!), and if they are ok with me, I'm ok with them.

Simples.

Some chaps often of the inexperienced, or younger types can get confused bless 'em. Well they have an attractive female doing pleasureable things to them, being nice and making them feel amazing. So it's not difficult for them to enter their own little dream. I also sometimes get the impression that some males do think we only do this because we can't get a boyfriend, or are desperate for one, sat around twiddling our thumbs dying of sexual frustration.........waiting for our knight to rescue us.

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