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Condom Usage Amongst The Young

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The following article appears in this morning's New York Times and it prompted me to wonder what results s similar study here might bring:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/04/health/04sex.html?_r=1&hpw=&pagewanted=print

On the one hand, it is good news that condom usage is routinely accepted and practiced by the young there, but is anyone surprised that such a low percentage of older folks show the same regard for their own sexual health in the US? Old dogs, new tricks? Surely not after 25 years of widespread publicity and sexual education. Will the youth of today there become lax tomorrow?

Obviously, those of us who contribute to the Punternet Forum represent a specialised minority here in the UK, but are we better or worse in our sexual practices than the public at large? We lecture and listen, we pontificate endlessly and reassure ourselves regularly, but how do we actually behave once we leave our computer behind?

I usually roll my eyes and reach for the popcorn when threads like this are posted but have I/we become too blase' over the years? :blink:

(This link looks dodgy but it seems to work. If not, it's a front-page article on www.nytimes.com today)

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The following article appears in this morning's New York Times and it prompted me to wonder what results s similar study here might bring:

http://www.nytimes.c...agewanted=print

On the one hand, it is good news that condom usage is routinely accepted and practiced by the young there, but is anyone surprised that such a low percentage of older folks show the same regard for their own sexual health in the US? Old dogs, new tricks? Surely not after 25 years of widespread publicity and sexual education. Will the youth of today there become lax tomorrow?

Obviously, those of us who contribute to the Punternet Forum represent a specialised minority here in the UK, but are we better or worse in our sexual practices than the public at large? We lecture and listen, we pontificate endlessly and reassure ourselves regularly, but how do we actually behave once we leave our computer behind?

I usually roll my eyes and reach for the popcorn when threads like this are posted but have I/we become too blase' over the years? :blink:

(This link looks dodgy but it seems to work. If not, it's a front-page article on www.nytimes.com today)

I'm reliably informed that condom usage among the younger peeps isn't a number one concern.

I usually accost young people at bus stops and Mc Donalds ques and question them about their sex lives, so its top quality information.

I am close to a 24, 18 and a 16 year old who often chat about life in general. and are pretty open about issues. The older girl carries a condom "Just in case" The other two don't. There seems to be a socially accepted practise of "Daisy chain sex" amongst the younger more adventurous members of the English youth. I'm informed the condom is seldom seen. Unprotected casual sex is common among teenagers. Especially where alcohol is involved.

Daisy chain

Sex is a lot less taboo these days.

I'm guessing the graphic warnings of HIV we saw in the 80,s when the disease exploded into public attention with TV and Cinema adverts, the fear and reality of HIV has all but gone from the minds of the next generation. Half these kids were not born then. I think there is too much focus on Chlamidia which is seen as a benine recreational hazzrd that is easily cured Anti biotics., In young happy minds enjoying life, HIV is like cancer, in that "It will never happen to me"

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I'm reliably informed that condom usage among the younger peeps isn't a number one concern.

I was with a friend in a pub recently (now there's a shock) and one of he's drinking buddies who's in his 20s started chatting to us.

He was quite open about his sex life and I listened aghast as he stated that he categorically never used a condom and then went on to describe his latest encounters (including unprotected anal sex with a woman from Africa ffs).

In fact he'd managed to give his (now ex) partner an STI as a result of his antics.

Shocking and throws into sharp relief the safe sex generally practised by wgs and their clients.

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I was with a friend in a pub recently (now there's a shock) and one of he's drinking buddies who's in his 20s started chatting to us.

He was quite open about his sex life and I listened aghast as he stated that he categorically never used a condom and then went on to describe his latest encounters (including unprotected anal sex with a woman from Africa ffs).

In fact he'd managed to give his (now ex) partner an STI as a result of his antics.

Shocking and throws into sharp relief the safe sex generally practised by wgs and their clients.

B

Time for a new health campaign perhaps.

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Time for a new health campaign perhaps.

I definitely think a new health campaign is in order but I also think that a comprehensive and impartial survey by an professional polling outfit that does NOT have an axe to grind (the US survey was funded by a condom manufacturer) would be extremely useful, both to the the Government and to 'civilians' - parents, teachers, non-absolutist clergy (good luck!) and to any organisation that is concerned about the cost and scope of health care here. So much talk, so much opinion and rhetoric, so few hard facts. :rolleyes:

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its one thing having unprotected sex with your partner and even with casual partners etc but how can punters and some wg's engage in bareback sex??i dont understand, are they that dumb or jst not bothered??Esp if the punters have longterm partners ,surely its not a risk worth taking..or maybe it is to them.who knows :unsure:

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its one thing having unprotected sex with your partner and even with casual partners etc but how can punters and some wg's engage in bareback sex??i dont understand, are they that dumb or jst not bothered??Esp if the punters have longterm partners ,surely its not a risk worth taking..or maybe it is to them.who knows :unsure:

The US survey did not even mention punting, per se, and I suspect that - Punternet participants aside - the youth that were polled were not really engaged in punting at all, and that their parents et al were only marginally engaged in punting. The point of the article was that the youth of America are more conservative in their sexual behavior than their parents and seniors. Since the latter have been bombarded with information, statistics, graphic photographs and assorted propaganda for the past 25 years while the youth are comparatively innocent, why is this? Perhaps the young have all 'found Jesus', I don't know. But I am curious whether similar socio-sexual trends are at play here in the UK and I think that a proper survey might yield useful information to many, both within the government and among the general public. In short, I was both surprised at the findings of the survey and curious what a similar survey here might yield. :) Edited by Tiggy 7

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The US survey did not even mention punting, per se, and I suspect that - Punternet participants aside - the youth that were polled were not really engaged in punting at all, and that their parents et al were only marginally engaged in punting. The point of the article was that the youth of America are more conservative in their sexual behavior than their parents and seniors. Since the latter have been bombarded with information, statistics, graphic photographs and assorted propaganda for the past 25 years while the youth are comparatively innocent, why is this? Perhaps the young have all 'found Jesus', I don't know. But I am curious whether similar socio-sexual trends are at play here in the UK and I think that a proper survey might yield useful information to many, both within the government and among the general public. In short, I was both surprised at the findings of the survey and curious what a similar survey here might yield. :)

with punting the risk is statistically increased as opposed to simply sleeping around within a certain circle of friends or community etc But I could be wrong with that assumption. I would say that the youth here would probably reflect their US counterparts to a certain extent. Its been well documented on how casual some teens are to sex and multiple partners etc I had to see a doc at the GUM clinic over a period of time due to a non-sexually related condition I had and every single time I went the place was choca-bloc with people on any given day...not sure if that means anything but it appears that STD cases are on the rise,in London at least.

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with punting the risk is statistically increased as opposed to simply sleeping around within a certain circle of friends or community etc But I could be wrong with that assumption. I would say that the youth here would probably reflect their US counterparts to a certain extent. Its been well documented on how casual some teens are to sex and multiple partners etc I had to see a doc at the GUM clinic over a period of time due to a non-sexually related condition I had and every single time I went the place was choca-bloc with people on any given day...not sure if that means anything but it appears that STD cases are on the rise,in London at least.

I'll match your anecdotal evidence with my own. I go to a GUM clinic in Soho on a quarterly basis and I am inevitably the oldest, by decades, 'testee' in the waiting room. There usually are one or two females there, as well, but most are young men who seem to be exchanging knowing looks with each other. What am I to conclude? ;)

Doesn't help much in trying to gauge sexual behavior patterns of youth v less youthful in the UK, though. Somehow, I don't think either I or any serious sexologist is going to get very far in pursuit of 'the truth' on this thread, (or, probably, this board) does it?

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