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Samya 6th Birthday Party

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I wasn't planning on visiting Koeln on Friday, originally I was going to a Wendy Somer Pornparty In NL, but the date was changed, so I arrived at Weeze airport with a couple of plans, either a fkk or a partytreff, decieded to hit Samya, so got the bus from the airport, It stops at Duesseldorf before terminating at Koeln Messe, cost me €21.

I arrived at Station backpackers hostel at midday, so got a bed, waited In the lounge till 2pm until I could get In the room, they have free wi-fi, so did some more research as I waited.

I got the U-bahn down to Michlehoven, only took 25mins, as I was walking to the club, I spotted 3 girls walking In the same direction as me, I wonder where they are going I thought lol. I arrived at 15:30, paid my €50, found out It was the clubs 6th Birthday party, there was to be a live band, a big dinner and a raffle, was given a ticket.

Got changed and showered, and went up to the bar, It was quite busy already, quite a few girls and some guys, I was a little tired, so go a drink and relaxed In the garden for a while.

Went back to the bar, got another drink, and checked out the talent, a few of the girls I reconised, but I had all night, so took my time, at around 17:00 I spotted Ranja walk In the bar, she looked hot, there was something slightly different about her, she's had a boob job, they're not huge now, only gone up to a C-D cup now, and they look and feel natural.

I have a Love & Hate relationship with Ranja, I first met her at Samya back In '07, have seen her a few times since, she Is great In the room, but can be a shark too, we had a drink and a chat out In the garden, she Is fun to talk to, she says her English Is bad, I sent her for a key, and we went up to a room, door was shut at 17:45, she wanted a smoke, so she opened the window, and we had a chat for 5mins or so.

Then we started the session, wow I hadn't seen her In about a year, but she Is as good as before, really wild In the room, great kisser, deep throat BJ, and Is a flexible girl, Ranja Is probally the best fkk girl I've seen In regards to looks and service, we finished the session, and Ranja had another smoke out the window as I got my breath back, the clock In the room was broken, but I mentioned to her twice I wanted a 30min session.

So guess what happens back downstairs when I gave her €50, yes she says we were there 40mins, and It was €75, at most It was 5min over, but I let her smoke In the room, should have known she'd try to crook me, It's sad really, as she Is a great performer, but when money Is Involved she changes totally, I'm not the first or last to get hustled by Ranja, I was a little anoyed with her, and I refused to pay her the €25, It's only 25euros, but It was the principle, I'd done her a favour In the room, and she took the piss, so she walked off In a huff.

So I took a shower and got a drink and sat outside, trying to put Ranja out of my mind, and check for another girl to session with. It was around 19:00 by now, the club was filling up, must of been around 30 girls and a lot of guys, the bar was full, many guys standing around, the live band began about now, It was good, they had a singer too, he wasn't bad.

Dinner time was announced, roast turkey and a large buffet was open, the queue was long, but the food was first class, I had some dinner, and went back In the bar. Out of the 30 or so girls 5-6 stood out to me, I spotted Caty, she still looks hot, but I remembered my last session with her was average, there was a tall very attractive blonde sat at the far end of the bar, to me she was a 9 in looks, had a beautiful face and curvy body, a went to sit down nearby, but she was chatting and dancing with another guy for a longtime, and I had no chance to speak to her.

I enjoyed the party, the music was good, and a few of the girls are good dancers, they were on top of the bar, and the singer was good too, but the party was to busy for mongering, was hard to find a girl you liked that was free, I wasn't to fussed so had a couple more beers and took a sauna, while I was In the sauna some knob took my robe that was hung up outside, with my raffle ticket In It, no Apple Ipad for me then, Tosser!

Later on I spotted Ranja sat at a table, so I went to talk to her, to sort out our differences, she just Ignored me, stupid really, as I would of sessioned with her again, IF she packed In the hustling with me, a shame as she's a great fuck, but has a greed for money.

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Thanks for that report. When I went to Samya in June I was forewarned so I bought an extra €50 along just in case I got to session with Ranja, so even though I never had a chance to session with her at least if I did and she upsold me I could at least have just handed her the money and no bad feeling would result. Given her reviews and even you saying you had a great session with her, I feel she would have been worth it. But sorry it ended the way it did, if you stick to your guns and insist on the bargain you thought you'd struck, what can you do?

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Thanks for that report. When I went to Samya in June I was forewarned so I bought an extra €50 along just in case I got to session with Ranja, so even though I never had a chance to session with her at least if I did and she upsold me I could at least have just handed her the money and no bad feeling would result. Given her reviews and even you saying you had a great session with her, I feel she would have been worth it. But sorry it ended the way it did, if you stick to your guns and insist on the bargain you thought you'd struck, what can you do?

Yes Ranja Is great In the room, but she can be a bad girl too, I guess It's the price you pay with her. She's known me for 3yrs, so she must know I'm not a green fkk newbie, but she still tried It on with me, like I said €25 Is noting to me, but It was the principle, Ranja Is one of the top earners at Samya, she drives a Audi Q7 don't you know lol, but good session or not, I hate to be ripped off for €1, not to bothered, plenty more fish In the fkk, maybe I will see her when I return to Samya, for make up sex, who knows lol.

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Wednesday 6th Oct

I went back to Samya Wednesday evening, here Is my report.

I arrived at Samya around 7pm, paid my €50 and got changed, went upstairs got myself a drink and some pasta, and sat down at a table. There were quite a few girls In the bar, I had all night, so took my time choosing my first lady. Had a wander around and sat at the bar.

I got talking to a dark skinned German-Moroccan girl, I think she said her name was Jos or Jas, but looking at the Samya site It might of been Yois, you can't miss her, she's dark skinned, natural large boobs, pretty face and sexy eyes, told me her parents are Moroccan, but she was born In Germany, her English was quite good, and she was chatty and friendly to talk to. I suggested we go to room, but all the rooms were In use, so had to wait 10mins or so, there must be about 20 rooms at the club, so the place was busy. Finally got a key and up to a room, Yois was very good, she had a bit of a cold, so no kissing, but her BBBJ was top quality, was great to get my hands and face all over her big boobs, and she was quite athletic, started In cowgirl, then doggy, had a great view of her nice arse, then finished off In Mish, was In the room for just under 30mins and paid €50, no dramas from this lady.

Got myself some more dinner, and took a seat, as I was sat there I noticed Ranja, she had noticed me, but was Ignoring me, she did this all night, she really must of thought she was In the right, I wasn't bothered about her, plenty more girls In the club, I had a few targets on my list but wasn't sure who to go with, I had spotted a young cute blonde last Friday, she was there this day too, her name was Carla 20yrs old from Romania, said she had worked at Samya for 18 months, can't say I remember seeing her on previous trips, but she looked hot and I wanted to go room with her, I was thinking that a girl that pretty wouldn't be very good service wise, but I still took her.

In fact Carla surprised me In the room, she was very good, BBBJ was good, did 69 for a while, she has a sweet little pussy, on with the rubber and Into Cowgirl, she knows what to do, and was energetic, she was riding me like an expert, so took me by surprise, Carla has a slim toned body and Is easy to move her about, we got Into some Interesting postitions, I can't believe she's only 20yrs old, she looks It, but for a young pretty girl she gives a great performance In the room, I'm sure she Is very popular with the regulars.

I was considering doing another session, but it was getting late, and I deceided to call It a night at about 1am, so took a taxi to the Hbf for €18,

Had a good evening at Samya, was quite a busy evening for a Wednesday, could of been because there was a lot of guys In Koeln for the Messe.

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Jerboa, so you spent €50 to get in, and €50 each on Yois and Carla, although you didn't mention how much on Carla. Total for the whole night Inc refreshments and 2 shags was about 128 quid. That is not bad considering I normally pay £150 for an hour, for 2 pops with the same girl though. I have definitely got to get out there.

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Also, how do you pay the girls? Do you walk around naked apart from your money belt on? LOL

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Yes It was €50 entry, this entitles you to as much drink, Including beer as you like, help yourself to the decent buffet, and use of the wellness centre downstairs. Yes I paid each lady €50 for a 30min session, at this club and others It's €75 for 1hr.

You don't carry any money around with you, after the end of the session the ladies will meet you down In the locker room, and you pay them there, you just need to make a note of what time the session started In the room, usually a big clock In the rooms, and ask the lady to tell you If something Is extra, as some girls like Ranja will try to take the piss, the normal extras are CIM for €25 and some will do anal, any problems you can speak to the management, who are very customer friendly, and always ask for feedback, for me Samya Is one of the best clubs In the Cologne area.

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Jerboa, so you spent €50 to get in, and €50 each on Yois and Carla, although you didn't mention how much on Carla. Total for the whole night Inc refreshments and 2 shags was about 128 quid. That is not bad considering I normally pay £150 for an hour, for 2 pops with the same girl though. I have definitely got to get out there.

Yes you must. Because its all legal and above board over there, the better clubs have a lot of money invested in them because they know they wont be shut down, if they follow the rules. The places are generally away from residential areas, either in the countryside or industrial estates so wont attract complaints. €50 for 1/2 hour doesn't seem a lot compared to over here, but the girl will keep all that. In brothels over here if you pay £80 for 1/2 hour the girls will keep 1/2 that maybe. I think at an FKK the girls have to pay to get in as well, thats how the clubs make their money. The atomsphere of an FKK is such a turn on too, especially in the summer lazing by the pool watching all the pretty naked girls.

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Yes you must. Because its all legal and above board over there, the better clubs have a lot of money invested in them because they know they wont be shut down, if they follow the rules. The places are generally away from residential areas, either in the countryside or industrial estates so wont attract complaints. €50 for 1/2 hour doesn't seem a lot compared to over here, but the girl will keep all that. In brothels over here if you pay £80 for 1/2 hour the girls will keep 1/2 that maybe. I think at an FKK the girls have to pay to get in as well, thats how the clubs make their money. The atomsphere of an FKK is such a turn on too, especially in the summer lazing by the pool watching all the pretty naked girls.

Yes It's a total different experience, German guys visit the clubs to socialise with their friends, shoot the shit and shag some sexy ladies, It's probably not the place to go for just one session. Yes I like the concept, you can mingle In the clubs, get a drink or some food, and don't have to make a decision to session with a girl In 10 seconds. Yes spot on, the clubs have legal status, so the owners are happy to Invest money Into the clubs, for the facilities, and the decent food and drink, totally a alien concept for a club In UK. Yes the girls pay entry like the guys, and as far as I know keep all they make, as Germany has anti pimping laws.

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The one law in Germany that stands out most is "no pimping" and taxes. A few years back the German government took the position instead of trying to get each girl to tell them how many customers they had for tax purposes they would just force the club to collect the taxes up front. So today all the clubs include a specific amount per day in taxes which the government gets, its between 20-40Euros. The other part of it is getting around the "pimping" so what they did was start "clubs". Thus the name FKK Sauna club was born. Now it does not always have to include all those terms but the concept stays the same. FKK means "nudity" which is the difference between say GoldenTime and

Bernd's. GT is not an FKK but they are usually included in this category, its more of a hybrid. Between a brothel and a club. A real authentic FKK requires the women to be nude. Back to the point here, at these "clubs" the men pay entry and so do the women. This is where the club gets around the law, both parties pay entry, the club is only supplying a facility. Now if the girls are required to get a key its usually for two reasons. To track the time you spent in the room and to charge the girl for the room time. You'll note at some big clubs like World or Oase they don't use keys, they work more on volume, the women pay about the same as the men to get in. Some pay more and some pay less this depends if they use room and board at the club. The club charges them a bit more for boarding at Oase or World. This is where 3-4 women share a small room at the club to cut costs. This is needed for non-locals and some women that commute from other cities many hours away. Oase has even started issuing meal tickets to the women to stop them from wasting food (more then the allotted meals). There are a rare few clubs that are actually LEGAL

brothels, which means they have legal documents allowing them to operate prostitution. The rest just get by using the concept of not being involved with what actually takes place inside a private room. This is where German law comes in and protects the rights of what the women and men do inside a private room. This gets them around the actual pimping and prostitution laws. Clubs can be located anywhere, not just in industrial or rural areas. They can be next to everyday family homes as well. Bernd's for example is in the middle of town. The red light district in Frankfurt is just across the street from the main train station and offers blocks of independent girls on multi floor

flats. The owner of Oase once said "Its not about being able to open a club BUT being able to keep the club". If you've been doing this hobby in Germany for a while you'll know about the clubs that closed over the years, Relax Limburg, Oase II (Only open 1 day), Herne, Honeysburg, Atlantis and Meindof. Some were closed for different reasons, neighbor worked for government, tax evasion, trafficking, legalities etc. So when guys ASSUME a place is legal it can cause problems, you won't really know unless you know or you're there during a raid. There will always be a shady part of this business involved in all the clubs. Did you know almost all the women have a guy involved who gets part or all of the money. Most women will deny this or say they don't, that's just part of the agreement they have. Since "pimping is illegal" you'll be hard pressed for an honest answer no matter how well you think you know the gal.

Keep in mind that part of the art of this business is to get your money and get you to come back. Maximizing their profits, they want you to feel special, so they're very good actresses, its when you get outside the club that you really know who you're dealing with. As some posters have stated when it comes down to the money, this is where you see how hungry they get. You would think the smart ones would be a bit generous with you which in the end would mean you stayed a good customer, yet many times they hit you up for another 25-50 for going overtime by just 5 minutes. When they do this to you it becomes obvious that this is all about profit not friendship. Then again they may have bills due and are going to squeeze each penny they can.

So remember, if you think its all legal in Germany you're wrong, its often about having lots of cash and big time lawyers who go to court and push for rights, like the right for citizens to do what they want behind closed doors. Not the right for prostitution. The places that have legal brothel licenses are usually the red light districts where this has been going on for centuries. Another option is opening in small towns or villages where the owner can often bribe the mayor of townsfolk. Things have gotten better since the clubs started collecting taxes from the women, thus the government's main concern now is legal status.

Another big question has been the health issue, are the women checked, well the same strong citizens rights laws was enforced which protect the working women, the clubs are not allowed to ask for medical documentation, that is private. Years, many years back they used to ask for medical papers and demand medical check ups, that's no longer done or allowed. The positive is a club does not want word getting out that a customer got ill at their club so if they find out a gal has something she's removed on the spot. Then again how many months can you have HIV and it does not show up? If it were all legal you'd see the license hanging on the wall. Just cause a club invests money into a place does not mean its legal and on the up and up. Then again the person at the door is not going to answer your requests about such inquires. Think about it, you can walk into a barbershop, is the guy going to treat you well or poorly, it all depends on if he wants you to come back. It's business.

Oase II which was the owner of Oase near Frankfurt and some girls who worked with him invested about 2 million Euros a few years back (right when the euro went into effect) to build and open another club. It was just outside Koln towards the border. They got licensed to open as a "sauna club" which by the way has nothing to do with prostitution or brothels. Problem is the people in that town, some lawyers found out and shut the place down the first day it opened. My point is if you think spending lots of money is OK to assume a place is legal then this was a good example of how wrong that thinking is. They lost all that money, they took months building the place and getting ready. It would have been bigger then and nicer then the first Oase. Relax outside of Limburg is another story of a club that cost a fortune (built from the ground up) which was closed, legally closed and not by the owners.

Following the rules? Perhaps paying taxes, working with the police during raids (and they ALL get raided). Good PR and having an expensive legal team also helps. The majority of clubs survive by their neighbors NOT knowing what is going on. I hope this sheds a bit of light on the hobby. Germany is still a safe place to go, great selection and good value for most of us

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You couldn't expand a bit on that could you ;)

Thanks for the info, very imformative.

I've been to Bernds, and after saying hello the next topic was where did I park, just to make sure I hadn't upset the neighbours. It stuck me as a bit of a strange place to have a knocking shop in the middle of a residential area.

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You couldn't expand a bit on that could you ;)

Thanks for the info, very imformative.

I've been to Bernds, and after saying hello the next topic was where did I park, just to make sure I hadn't upset the neighbours. It stuck me as a bit of a strange place to have a knocking shop in the middle of a residential area.

Imagine that in the UK or the US ! :P Germany is so civilized . ;) ;)

You should write a graphic report about your visit and educate some members how good FKK life can be ! :D :D Maybe not, you'd get flamed off the board ! :P

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Imagine that in the UK or the US ! :P Germany is so civilized . ;) ;)

You should write a graphic report about your visit and educate some members how good FKK life can be ! :D :D Maybe not, you'd get flamed off the board ! :P

When I said I thought it was strange to have a knocking shop in the middle of a residental area I meant an FKK club in Germany. Yes they are often in residential areas in the UK, but the ones I've been to in Germany have not in the main.

In industrial estates/business parks - Samya in Koln, Pirates-Park in Bruchsal, Lancelot in Offenburg, Pascha in Schwenningen, Sakura in Boblingen, Palace in Frankfurt

In the sticks - GT Bruggen, World in Giessen, Oase in Burglesomething

The exceptions have been Finca in Dierdorf, but thats on the edge of town. The club in Xantern, but that is 1/2 residential 1/2 garden centre type road. Park Sauna near Koln, but thats on the very edge of a small village in the sticks.

Bernds on the other hand is slap bang (pun intended) in the middle of a decent residential area.

Not sure about the graphic report as I'm shy :lol:

I'd read about Bernds on the ISG forum, so thought I'd pay a visit on my next trip. I'd only been to Samya before, and they way they go about things is a little different. I had a look around the place, noted the bedroom downstairs off the main room with the glass window instead of a door, where you can have a shag infront of anyone in the lounge caring to watch :o

Went back upstairs and sat down in the lounge. A few guys & girls at the bar, a few more sat down on the many couches. Then a bloke and a girl sit down and she starts giving him a bj. Thats the standard way to start a session :)

I went over and sat and chatted with a girl for a while. A bit of kissing and cuddling and then she had my cock in her mouth. It felt a bit weird, the situation not the bj, I looked around and nobody batted an eye lid. I reckon it would seem more strange if you didn't have the bj on the couch before going to the room.

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Bernds Is a place I've heard a lot of good things about, but not been yet, It's only open Mon-Fri, It also helps If you have a car, as It's out In the sticks.

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You could probably get there by train/bus to Siegburg/St Augustin then a bus to Altenkirchen along the '8', but I dont think it would be a straight forward trip.

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You could probably get there by train/bus to Siegburg/St Augustin then a bus to Altenkirchen along the '8', but I dont think it would be a straight forward trip.

Yes true, but I'm sure It wouldn't be so good to get back at night, one reason why I prefer Samya, saying that I have hired cars with Sixti on my last two trips, so could well do Bernds.

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