Game On

No To Owo

77 posts in this topic

Shy Guy's earlier post (his enjoyment of punting is limited by the fear of catching something) got me thinking, as until I read his thoughts I thought I was the only one who had similar health concerns. Yes, I'm fully aware that the risks of OWO are small and that the only no risk policy is not to punt in the first place. For me though it's off putting to see WG adverts promoting CIM,OWO etc and on a punt it's on my mind that another guy's uncovered dick could have been in the girl's mouth half an hour previously.

It seems I'm in a real minority here but I can't understand why. Many punters must have OH's and surely you do what you can to minimise the risk? In practical terms it does limit me because most girls advertise OWO (not sure if they would all be happy to do it or whether they feel if they didn't offer it they wouldn't get much business?). Many don't state either way but I feel that if I phoned a lady to ask if she did OWO she would probably say yes because she would think it was the "right" answer. Likewise, if I pre-empted the question with my concern she may be tempted to say no for the same reason.

Indian Palace in London takes a lot of stick in these pages for their strict policy on no OWO but to me it's commendable. Whilst writing, can anyone recommend any girls in London who openly only offer just OW?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think I've only had OWO three times from WG's and after the last punt where that service was on offer, a couple of weeks later I came down with throat problems and also an infection on my penis, which the doctor thought was most likely a reaction to the penicilin that I had to take for my throat infection. However, I've always had the worry that the infections I had (not STD's thankfully) came from this punt so have been slightly reluctant to indulge in OWO ever since.

That said, I did at one stage try to book that girl again as she was gorgeous, sexy and just the perfect punt for me but on the day booked, she didn't come into work so the appointment never happened. I'm unsure about OWO now, moreso with parlour girls who are more likely to see a higher volume of men in a day and, in the case of the aforementioned WG, could have just finished servicing a couple of guys before me.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

When I book, I always like to make sure I am the first client on that day, I know it won't stop me catching an Sti but just don't like the thought of someone else having been "there" before me.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

When I book, I always like to make sure I am the first client on that day, I know it won't stop me catching an Sti but just don't like the thought of someone else having been "there" before me.

I must be missing something here, how does being the first client of the day guarantee that someone else has not been "there" before you?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I must be missing something here, how does being the first client of the day guarantee that someone else has not been "there" before you?

Well by being the first client, that's how you can make sure you are the first client she has seen that day, if your being picky, then I guess maybe she might have a partner, but on the whole, if you are the first booking of the day, for me it just feels a little bit more hygienic, personaly feel more comfortable than if I were her 10th and last for the day.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well by being the first client, that's how you can make sure you are the first client she has seen that day, if your being picky, then I guess maybe she might have a partner, but on the whole, if you are the first booking of the day, for me it just feels a little bit more hygienic, personaly feel more comfortable than if I were her 10th and last for the day.

I'm the same. Apart from enjoying having fun early in the day, I think there is something nice about being the first client a WG may have seen that day.

In answer to the OP I've never been to a parlour, have scrupulous hygiene standards, and have seen 80+ indie WGs who have done OWO, with no STIs (that I am aware of).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well by being the first client, that's how you can make sure you are the first client she has seen that day, if your being picky, then I guess maybe she might have a partner, but on the whole, if you are the first booking of the day, for me it just feels a little bit more hygienic, personaly feel more comfortable than if I were her 10th and last for the day.

Comfort - thats all it is...in terms of avoiding catching an STI from her makes no diff..factor into the equation incubation period etc

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Comfort - thats all it is...in terms of avoiding catching an STI from her makes no diff..factor into the equation incubation period etc

If you read my first post......

When I book, I always like to make sure I am the first client on that day, I know it won't stop me catching an Sti but just don't like the thought of someone else having been "there" before me.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well wouldnt the WG shower, mouthwash, etc after every client?

After all they want to be at their cleanest and freshest so their client will come back again and give them more cash

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

For me though it's off putting to see WG adverts promoting CIM,OWO etc and on a punt it's on my mind that another guy's uncovered dick could have been in the girl's mouth half an hour previously.

And what if she french kisses or offers reverse oral. Are you happy to lick a vagina in the knowledge many others have previously. Incidentally I think there should be a ban on naming establishments in posts unless the moderators get free sex.

Edited by Vulvasailor

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have never worried about the number of clients a WG may or may not have seen before me, she either has something or she does not.

I make sure she does OWO before I go and see her as oral with a condom does nothing for me and in 5-6 years I have never caught a thing, however I am also sure some guy gets himself gobbled without a condom and catches something the first ever time he does it.

Its down to the punter to decide if he takes the risk or not, the odds are long and so far I have been on the good side of them.

Its not difficult, you take the risk or you don't.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

In practical terms it does limit me because most girls advertise OWO

There are many girls on the other site that categorically state; NO OWO!

Personally, I don’t mind, one way or another. If she’s my type of gal I’ll see her whatever. One other advantage of a covered BJ is that I don’t cum very easily with a condom on, so I get to see the full repertoire of a girls cock sucking abilities. :D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What's worse is if a girl licks ass before your session and also offers french kissing and does so with you unbenownst that she licked someones ass crack. Sure she may mouth wash but there are times when you do kiss the girl and you are not quite sure what the taste in her mouth is! Sure as hell better be a nasty tasting energy drink!

Edited by envy123

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What's worse is if a girl licks ass before your session and also offers french kissing and does so with you unbenownst that she licked someones ass crack. Sure she may mouth wash but there are times when you do kiss the girl and you are not quite sure what the taste in her mouth is! Sure as hell better be a nasty tasting energy drink!

Thanks envy123, that thought had never crossed my mind, another thing to worry about Lol :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Shy Guy's earlier post (his enjoyment of punting is limited by the fear of catching something) got me thinking, as until I read his thoughts I thought I was the only one who had similar health concerns. Yes, I'm fully aware that the risks of OWO are small and that the only no risk policy is not to punt in the first place. For me though it's off putting to see WG adverts promoting CIM,OWO etc and on a punt it's on my mind that another guy's uncovered dick could have been in the girl's mouth half an hour previously.

It seems I'm in a real minority here but I can't understand why. Many punters must have OH's and surely you do what you can to minimise the risk? In practical terms it does limit me because most girls advertise OWO (not sure if they would all be happy to do it or whether they feel if they didn't offer it they wouldn't get much business?). Many don't state either way but I feel that if I phoned a lady to ask if she did OWO she would probably say yes because she would think it was the "right" answer. Likewise, if I pre-empted the question with my concern she may be tempted to say no for the same reason.

Indian Palace in London takes a lot of stick in these pages for their strict policy on no OWO but to me it's commendable. Whilst writing, can anyone recommend any girls in London who openly only offer just OW?

Firstly Indian Palace employ girls from all over so they may offer OWO elsewhere, they may also have a personal life so this is no safeguard. Just stick to girls that offer Oral Covered or state they do not offer OWO in their profile if it really makes a difference to your enjoyment. There are lots of girls that do not offer OWO so you will not be limiting yourself too much but don't dismiss the girls that don't just tell them you would prefer to use a condom for oral they really won't be that concerned.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

OWO is an infection vector for HPV and HSV (Herpes), which are both incurable. Plus of course other STDs.

HPV causes genital warts and/or cancer. Herpes is extremely painful.

The treatment for penile cancer generally involves amputation - think about it. Don't do OWO.

If you must, get vaccinated with Gardasil which prevents four key variants of HPV.

Michael Douglas said his type of throat cancer had three risk factors, drink, smoke and STD (I assume he means HPV).

I also commend those who refuse to offer OWO - it is not low risk. You may have contracted HPV with no immediate symptoms.

Enjoy safe punting.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hpv is transmitted via skin to skin a condom only covers one part and part of depending on size...don't have sex of any kind with any contact is the only safe way ....

This is fun ain't it...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

OWO is an infection vector for HPV and HSV (Herpes), which are both incurable. Plus of course other STDs.

HPV causes genital warts and/or cancer. Herpes is extremely painful.

The treatment for penile cancer generally involves amputation - think about it. Don't do OWO.

If you must, get vaccinated with Gardasil which prevents four key variants of HPV.

Michael Douglas said his type of throat cancer had three risk factors, drink, smoke and STD (I assume he means HPV).

I also commend those who refuse to offer OWO - it is not low risk. You may have contracted HPV with no immediate symptoms.

Enjoy safe punting.

Is this what you mean, "Safe Punting" ? :confused:

http://www.69adulttoys.com/SexToys/ToyExplorer.asp?SubCat=18

But then, maybe you could get a skin allergy from the latex or whatever material they are made from ? :o

Yeah, the only way, just jack off while you are online with PN, then you are guaranteed to be 100% safe . :P :P

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Punting – "Just Say No" (© N. Reagan 1982)

You know it makes sense.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

That guys post really put the fear into me for some reason. I'm extremely paranoid now about the three times I've had OWO from an escort and worried I have HPV etc.

I guess the hundreds of posters here who have never caught anything should be enough to make me feel a bit better but I'm still unsure if I'll be getting involved in OWO in the future.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I am not saying don't punt at all. There are degrees of risk. Around 20 years ago - OWO was unheard of. Hookers did nothing uncovered.

Where has this trend come from? Can it be unrelated to the rise in Oral Cancer? It is possible to contract genital warts even with a condom but the risk is low. That is the sort risk worth taking. The treatment for genital warts is highly embarrassing and prolonged.

Immersing your unprotected penis in someone's mouth is an avoidable risk. Have oral sex with a condom - there are several new very thin types. OWO does feel nice. But think of how many other men have done the same thing with the same hooker.

You can be tested for HPV apparently if you are worried that you may have contracted it. Even when using a condom it is best for both parties to shower before & afterwards. This is usually a requirement in brothels abroad.

Yes, we are take risks like crossing the road, but we don't cross the road without looking.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I am not saying don't punt at all. There are degrees of risk. Around 20 years ago - OWO was unheard of. Hookers did nothing uncovered.

What planet have you been living on ?? :confused: :confused:

You're talking out of your ass ! :lol:

Or have you just escaped from a Catholic monastery ? :rolleyes:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Even if a girl offer CBJ do you still kiss/FK her? Do you go down on her? If yes then there is still a risk of catching something nasty.

Do you know the FULL sexual history of your partner? Did you drag him/her to the GUM clinic before having sex? If not again a small risk you could catch something.

Don't have nightmares

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I certainly do not "go down" on a WG, the very thought is quite revolting.

I do not do DFK either, as you say that is a risk, but I would much rather have a HSV cold sore on my lips than on my penis.

Oral infections are one thing, at least they are not so embarassing to deal with.

As to where I have been, I have knowledge of this scene in and around London for at least 20 years. Widespread OWO is comparatively recent, probably gaining in frequency after the HIV scares of the 80's died down. Whether it goes back well before this, I cannot say.

The problem with HPV is that it could be 10+ years later when cancer develops. You may say "so what", but the past is no consolation when you get ill.

Herpes is probably my biggest personal fear (since I have had Gardasil) and it remains without a cure or vaccine. I would be interested to hear of people's experiences - it is widespread in the USA apparently.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

As for Partners, I really don't think they can be compared to WG's who have hundreds of clients a year. Some WG's get tested - good on them.

I have been screened. It make sense. But if someone is prepared to sell their body (and I am not against this) I wouldn't trust them to tell you about any infections they have. I have read about WGs with obvious genital warts still working. Herpes cannot be cured and re-occurs on a regular basis.

Compulsory medical certification would be great and happens in some countries. But to answer your question, I would expect a partner to mention any STDs they knew they had. I would not expect the same from a WG because their living depends on working. Plus if they are already infected they may care even less.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now