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I guess this is for everyone - Punters and Providers alike.

My question is that here we are in the middle of a long recession and yet whilst service prices in other parts of Industry are falling it seems that punting and massage costs are rising.

I must say at this point that I am a massage rather than a full service man generally but it doesn't mean that I don't look.

We have less disposable income yet we seem to have to pay more!

I know that a standing ****k has no conscience and that people will charge what they can but it does seem that some sensible pricing should come back into the Industry.

I am sure there will be many replies shooting me down but personally I am spending less time and money following my hobby than I used to and it is a purely financial issue.

Your thoughts please.

G

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I guess this is for everyone - Punters and Providers alike.

My question is that here we are in the middle of a long recession and yet whilst service prices in other parts of Industry are falling it seems that punting and massage costs are rising.

I must say at this point that I am a massage rather than a full service man generally but it doesn't mean that I don't look.

We have less disposable income yet we seem to have to pay more!

I know that a standing ****k has no conscience and that people will charge what they can but it does seem that some sensible pricing should come back into the Industry.

I am sure there will be many replies shooting me down but personally I am spending less time and money following my hobby than I used to and it is a purely financial issue.

Your thoughts please.

G

To me I see punting as a leisure activity, not a necessity, if you can't afford it, you shouldn't be doing it and getting into debt, also personnaly I like the fact that not everyone can afford to persue this hobby, I am lucky to have enough expendable income to enjoy myself and not have to worry, the only thing I am short on is time (envy you single guys sometimes) I would pay any price for my regular girl, thousands even, would just mean I see her less frequently.

There are places to go for a quick cheap frill, many differant girls for many differant budgets.

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My question is that here we are in the middle of a long recession and yet whilst service prices in other parts of Industry are falling it seems that punting and massage costs are rising.

My experience is that prices are falling or remaining stable.

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To me I see punting as a leisure activity, not a necessity, if you can't afford it, you shouldn't be doing it and getting into debt, also personnaly I like the fact that not everyone can afford to persue this hobby, I am lucky to have enough expendable income to enjoy myself and not have to worry, the only thing I am short on is time (envy you single guys sometimes) I would pay any price for my regular girl, thousands even, would just mean I see her less frequently.

There are places to go for a quick cheap frill, many differant girls for many differant budgets.

Most rates within the industry have stood still for several, if not many years. Bills and costs in general are increasing for everyone. I've not noticed significant drops in prices for other services that I use they seem pretty much the same, apart from for things like broadband and telephony which is a result of the roll-out of such technology.

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The recession has had an effect for new WG's imo.

The more experienced working girls have their regulars and can afford to keep prices the same and while also generate new business because of thier feedback.

For newbies, they need a promotion angle and lowering prices will gain custom.

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also personnaly I like the fact that not everyone can afford to persue this hobby

What a selfish thing to say and typical of the ME ME society we now have, i never think to myself oh i'm so glad others can't afford to enjoy what i can, i hope that they can, why should anyone miss out on anything, you sound like you think you are superior to others just because you have more money which is of course nonsense.

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There are places to go for a quick cheap frill......

Really? Where did you have in mind?

I prefer my encounters with no frills.

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The recession has had an effect for new WG's imo.

The more experienced working girls have their regulars and can afford to keep prices the same and while also generate new business because of thier feedback.

For newbies, they need a promotion angle and lowering prices will gain custom.

I'd heard that the situation was that a lot of new girls were coming in at the same pricing level, just that there is now a greater choice than ever.

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My experience is that prices are falling or remaining stable.

Yep - quite right. Punting is costing me the same as it was eight years ago when I started - or even less if I choose to 'shop around.'

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Really? Where did you have in mind?

I prefer my encounters with no frills.

I quite like frills on knickers.....

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The recession is only a problem for people who've lost their jobs and had to take lower paid work...?

My job is very safe, I didn't get a pay rise this year, but my tracker rate mortgage has dropped by £150 a month, so I have more disposable income than pre-recession.

As for WGs rates; last year, nearly all the girls I saw were charging £120/hour (incall) this year it seems most are asking £130.

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What a selfish thing to say and typical of the ME ME society we now have, i never think to myself oh i'm so glad others can't afford to enjoy what i can, i hope that they can, why should anyone miss out on anything, you sound like you think you are superior to others just because you have more money which is of course nonsense.

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It just ensures a better class of client imho.

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Ive always seen £150 per hr as the standard benchmark/minimum price for most Central London wg's.However some of these same girls would charge £120 per hr working in a local parlour as I have found to my pleasure :)

If anything there appears to be more VFM at the moment...yes it will be more expensive than say 10 years back but Im noticing a lot more girls offering £100 punts these days with good standard and range of services etc

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I am sighing as this is such a poor attempt at the whiny manipulation some guys come up with. Plus it is so blinkered, blatantly incorrect and self centred it is laughable. Escort services as someone already said are a luxury. If £10 or £20 represents such a pinch on the purse then perhaps a client needs to rethink how much of his income he ought to spent on luxuries in the first place. First of all, prices for escorts and parlours across the board if anything have fallen especially, in real terms. It is pointless to compare this industry to other service industries, they are not the same. That said a normal non sexual massage, a shiatsu session or any other somewhat indulgent ‘treat’ certainly has steadily risen in cost. The price of providing deeply personal sexual services simply does not compare to any other service. It just is not up to the ‘buyer’ to question our ‘rates’ – there is such a wide range of service providers in every price bracket. However, guys should adjust their expectations and drop that sense of petulant entitlement of expecting a ‘champagne lifestyle on their salary’!

Cost of living, rents, utility bills, food prices, and everything else goes up not just for the client but the escort too. Why on earth should therefore the service provider cover the shortfall in ‘disposable income’ for self centred types such as the OP? Interestingly those guys who moan the most about prices are often those whose own salary has not actually been affected. I doubt so many would be just as quick to demand rates to be lowered if their own company told them they would have to take a 25% salary cut rather than like us freeze rates . It amazing how often guys will whinge about our prices and then in post coital afterglow boast about their bonuses and larger purchases. Many people in a secure job have actually profited from lower interest rates. There are winners and losers in every financial crisis. As part of some research, I looked at prostitution during the ‘Great Depression’ in the Thirties in Europe. Despite people literally dying of hunger on the streets with massive queues for soup kitchens, prostitution especially at the higher price end was booming. We might be saints for putting up with some men, no woman would otherwise put up with but we do this for the love Mammon and not out of some act of selflessness (despite the preposterous protestations of some of the giggling touting parade on here!) Don’t expect prostitutes to suffer the consequences of feckless spending among most of society so used to instant gratification and ‘paying for it later’!

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There are winners and losers in every financial crisis.

Funny you should say that because as the financial crisis has deepened the Chinese takeaway delivery service has flourished, people are no longer going down, or is it up? the pub, instead they are buying their booze from Tesco and watching their big screen telly and ordering a delivery.

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I am sighing as this is such a poor attempt at the whiny manipulation some guys come up with. Plus it is so blinkered, blatantly incorrect and self centred it is laughable. Escort services as someone already said are a luxury. If £10 or £20 represents such a pinch on the purse then perhaps a client needs to rethink how much of his income he ought to spent on luxuries in the first place. First of all, prices for escorts and parlours across the board if anything have fallen especially, in real terms. It is pointless to compare this industry to other service industries, they are not the same. That said a normal non sexual massage, a shiatsu session or any other somewhat indulgent ‘treat’ certainly has steadily risen in cost. The price of providing deeply personal sexual services simply does not compare to any other service. It just is not up to the ‘buyer’ to question our ‘rates’ – there is such a wide range of service providers in every price bracket. However, guys should adjust their expectations and drop that sense of petulant entitlement of expecting a ‘champagne lifestyle on their salary’!

Cost of living, rents, utility bills, food prices, and everything else goes up not just for the client but the escort too. Why on earth should therefore the service provider cover the shortfall in ‘disposable income’ for self centred types such as the OP? Interestingly those guys who moan the most about prices are often those whose own salary has not actually been affected. I doubt so many would be just as quick to demand rates to be lowered if their own company told them they would have to take a 25% salary cut rather than like us freeze rates . It amazing how often guys will whinge about our prices and then in post coital afterglow boast about their bonuses and larger purchases. Many people in a secure job have actually profited from lower interest rates. There are winners and losers in every financial crisis. As part of some research, I looked at prostitution during the ‘Great Depression’ in the Thirties in Europe. Despite people literally dying of hunger on the streets with massive queues for soup kitchens, prostitution especially at the higher price end was booming. We might be saints for putting up with some men, no woman would otherwise put up with but we do this for the love Mammon and not out of some act of selflessness (despite the preposterous protestations of some of the giggling touting parade on here!) Don’t expect prostitutes to suffer the consequences of feckless spending among most of society so used to instant gratification and ‘paying for it later’!

Come off it! We all know that girls will try and squeeze as much out of their clients as they can! Once they realise the bookings are drying up, the prices go back down! Seen it happen so many times, it's laughable. It's the same with a hot new girl, she'll start off with a high price, then over a period of time, it gradually gets eroded back down to the norm. Escorting doesn't follow normal business practices of raw material costs and profit margins, it's about what a girl can get and/or is prepared to accept for selling her sexual services!

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Funny you should say that because as the financial crisis has deepened the Chinese takeaway delivery service has flourished, people are no longer going down, or is it up? the pub, instead they are buying their booze from Tesco and watching their big screen telly and ordering a delivery.

The real pertinent question so is if the special Chow Mein still costs the same it did 2-3 years ago and if there are still as many giant prawns in each serving? :lol:

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The real pertinent question so is if the special Chow Mein still costs the same it did 2-3 years ago and if there are still as many giant prawns in each serving? :lol:

That is a very pertinent question. Prices in the parlours near me are at very similar levels to those of 10+ years ago. Sadly though the quality of the girls is not.

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I've only been punting a couple of years and prices have remained quite standard. Most indies seem to charge around £80 for half an hour and £150 for an hour, most parlours seem to charge around £80 all in for half an hour. The only thing I've noticed lately is that 15 minute quickies seem to pop up on ** a lot more, usually for around £40-50 which is perhaps a sign of the times really, with people not being able to afford the longer appointments.

As others have said, if you can't afford it, don't do it. It's not something you definitely need in your life, it is a luxury after all so if you can't afford it, save up for it, sacrifice other luxuries, whatever but don't blame the providers if you can't afford it.

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Hmm

everyone is forgetting location

While 150/hr may be the norm in London, out here in the sticks, 120-130 is the norm. And, some places are even lower. Like Hull.

So lets be careful and not compare prices in different places to try and prove a point about trends over time.

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We all know that girls will try and squeeze as much out of their clients as they can!

Ba-doom-ching!

Escorting doesn't follow normal business practices of raw material costs and profit margins, it's about what a girl can get and/or is prepared to accept for selling her sexual services!

Which is true of any other service business. The same thing happens with a trendy hair salon. Escorting DOES follow normal business practices for service businesses. You charge what you think your services are worth on an open, and may I say very competitive, market, and if you find you've priced yourself out of the market, you adjust. Any hot new girl who doesn't do that is throwing money away.

The same thing also happens with electronic gadgets, by the way. The initial price is outrageous to sucker the early adopters who just have to have it; then it comes down to catch the mass market.

Don't be bitter just because you're an early adopter who allows his willy to drain his wallet.

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The real pertinent question so is if the special Chow Mein still costs the same it did 2-3 years ago and if there are still as many giant prawns in each serving? :lol:

* Fishes out 3 year old menu and compares prices of Special Chow Mein *

Current price of Special Chow Mein = £4.80

3 years ago (July 2007) price of Special Chow Mein = £4.50

I have no idea how many giant (I believe they are called King (why no Queen I wonder?)) prawns are involved, either then or now, however I will make discreet enquiries.

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* Fishes out 3 year old menu and compares prices of Special Chow Mein *

Current price of Special Chow Mein = £4.80

3 years ago (July 2007) price of Special Chow Mein = £4.50

I have no idea how many giant (I believe they are called King (why no Queen I wonder?)) prawns are involved, either then or now, however I will make discreet enquiries.

Thank you very much for a most enlightening answer. I look forward to the outcome of your research regarding King/Queen/ or other prawn quantities per serving. Perhaps we can have a chart to visualise the results more effectively. :D

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Come off it! We all know that girls will try and squeeze as much out of their clients as they can! Once they realise the bookings are drying up, the prices go back down! Seen it happen so many times, it's laughable. It's the same with a hot new girl, she'll start off with a high price, then over a period of time, it gradually gets eroded back down to the norm. Escorting doesn't follow normal business practices of raw material costs and profit margins, it's about what a girl can get and/or is prepared to accept for selling her sexual services!

A client dishing out business advice and presuming to know about the way an escort runs her business tends to be as sensible as offering the head gardener job to a goat just because he loves munching the flowers...

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