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Just had my work trip to Moscow in November confirmed. I've never been there before, always wanted to, so I'm quite looking forward to it. Of course, as with all my work related travel, I endeavour to take the opportunity to try to include a punt, and I would certainly like to when I'm in Russia, as it's widely reported how beautiful the women are.

I've had a scour of the ISG, as well as the thread entitled "Moscow" on this board, but they are hard work!

Does anyone have any recent experience to recount? Any advice please? Any suggestions or recommendations?

It looks like I'll be at the Kosmos hotel, and a quick look at it's reviews on various sites, thanks to Google, reveal that there are (or were in 2006 which is the newest review that I could stumble upon), likely to be lots of loitering lovely WG's in various areas of the hotel! :unsure::o (shock horror! :D:P:lol: )

I hope that this might still be the case, but I would expect them to be very expensive, and I don't know if I'd be too happy having an incall in my hotel room in Russia. (Just haven't done it for a long time)

I await your replies.

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The best advice Is to go back to ISG, and also WSG, and read up as much as you can, and ask any questions to the Russian experts on there, yes Russian women are beautiful, but Moscow can be expensive. A couple of links for you, http://www.dosug.cz/servlet/en/stickers?id_country=50&id_part=2&id_city=1961 Flirt Is a dating site, but has some hookers offering services. http://www.flirt.com.ua/

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The best advice Is to go back to ISG, and also WSG, and read up as much as you can, and ask any questions to the Russian experts on there, yes Russian women are beautiful, but Moscow can be expensive. A couple of links for you, http://www.dosug.cz/servlet/en/stickers?id_country=50&id_part=2&id_city=1961 Flirt Is a dating site, but has some hookers offering services. http://www.flirt.com.ua/

Check out Mamba too.

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Check out Mamba too.

You'll find It's the same site a Flirt.

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It looks like I'll be at the Kosmos hotel, and a quick look at it's reviews on various sites, thanks to Google, reveal that there are (or were in 2006 which is the newest review that I could stumble upon), likely to be lots of loitering lovely WG's in various areas of the hotel! :unsure::o (shock horror! :D:P:lol: )

I hope that this might still be the case, but I would expect them to be very expensive, and I don't know if I'd be too happy having an incall in my hotel room in Russia. (Just haven't done it for a long time)

The Kosmos -a grim ediface of Soviet ugliness- continues to attract a steady string of complaints on TripAdvisor. Some of them, from this month, grumble about the WGs who ply the foyer - see http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_Review-g298484-d299980-Reviews-Hotel_Cosmos-Moscow_Central_Russia.html

So, in other words, you should be okay.....

I was there in 2008. $220 for rather less that the hour, if I remember, though you might do better on a quiet night. The massage was better than the sex. I've no idea if the rooms are bugged, though it wouldn't greatly surprise me. The girl, Irina, insisted not to kiss her in the elevator, saying that it had hidden cameras.

Next morning the hotel had a huge struggle to find my passport which they mis-filed among a thousand others that they'd insisted on retaining. It took half an hour to resolve. I'd try to fob them off with a photocopy.

Have fun...

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Just had my work trip to Moscow in November confirmed. I've never been there before, always wanted to, so I'm quite looking forward to it. Of course, as with all my work related travel, I endeavour to take the opportunity to try to include a punt, and I would certainly like to when I'm in Russia, as it's widely reported how beautiful the women are.

I've had a scour of the ISG, as well as the thread entitled "Moscow" on this board, but they are hard work!

Does anyone have any recent experience to recount? Any advice please? Any suggestions or recommendations?

It looks like I'll be at the Kosmos hotel, and a quick look at it's reviews on various sites, thanks to Google, reveal that there are (or were in 2006 which is the newest review that I could stumble upon), likely to be lots of loitering lovely WG's in various areas of the hotel! :unsure::o (shock horror! :D:P:lol: )

I hope that this might still be the case, but I would expect them to be very expensive, and I don't know if I'd be too happy having an incall in my hotel room in Russia. (Just haven't done it for a long time)

I await your replies.

Not the best hotel but accommodation in Moscow is very costly. I think over the past 15 years Moscow population has tripled. Russia is a big country but commerce seems to be focused on 2-3 major cities and the rest struggling in poverty.

In most hotels you will find lots of WGs. It has been the same since 1992. In the early days the girls were all naive and fresh and went to these bars to meet foreigners and make some money on the side if they could. They are now very professional and around hotels like Kosmos you get the real professional ones all working under direction of their pimps.

Moscow is a dangerous place if you don't know your way around. It probably has the highest percentage of prostitute that anywhere else in the world. True there are many girls in Thailand too but these are concentrated in certain areas. In Moscow they are everywhere.

Arranging outcalls is safer than doing incalls. You will find it daunting walking up dimly lit stairways in Moscow's old apartment blocks and if you look positively foreign I advise you against venturing to such places late at night. One of the best sources for escorts in Moscow can be found http://www.rusdosug.com/index.php The site is both in Russian and English. I have tried few of the girls and they were all for real. I arranged both incalls and outcalls and paid between 100-150 USD for the hour+. Many escorts do not speak English but this is stated on their web page.

I know Moscow well and been there many times and lived there once for a year or so. Great fun to be had but you need to be a bit streetwise. I never had any problem with the WGs but I know of others who did. People getting rubbed, assaulted and poor English guy I knew who was drowned in his bath by Mafia. It transpired that he had a taste for WGs and god knows what he did to annoy the pimps.

I normally rent an apartment in Moscow and there are plenty on short term rental. For your first visit though perhaps staying in hotel is better although there is no real security anywhere in Moscow. It is a city with many different layers of mafia. Have fun but stay on the side of caution and do not take risks. Russian girls are beautiful and they are great in bed.

If you are reasonably good looking then try chatting up the bar maids and ordinary girls. The girls are quite open minded and they love men with a good sense of humour.

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Just had my work trip to Moscow in November confirmed. I've never been there before, always wanted to, so I'm quite looking forward to it. Of course, as with all my work related travel, I endeavour to take the opportunity to try to include a punt, and I would certainly like to when I'm in Russia, as it's widely reported how beautiful the women are.

I've had a scour of the ISG, as well as the thread entitled "Moscow" on this board, but they are hard work!

Does anyone have any recent experience to recount? Any advice please? Any suggestions or recommendations?

It looks like I'll be at the Kosmos hotel, and a quick look at it's reviews on various sites, thanks to Google, reveal that there are (or were in 2006 which is the newest review that I could stumble upon), likely to be lots of loitering lovely WG's in various areas of the hotel! :unsure::o (shock horror! :D:P:lol: )

I hope that this might still be the case, but I would expect them to be very expensive, and I don't know if I'd be too happy having an incall in my hotel room in Russia. (Just haven't done it for a long time)

I await your replies.

Please don't Laugh ...I did Moscow when it was firmly Soviet, but i was with MOM..I was in my teens and we Stayed in a huge high rise Hotel (Intourist?? ) . The place was full of Hookers & very pretty Finnish tourists .

The opportunities were there ,but lack of space to perform the deed .

Enjoyed the Bolshoi& Swan Lake at very cheap prices.

I do follow the Sex scene on ISG ,and agree it is hard work if you are not familiar with the city and do not follow up the forum on regular basis .

From what i gathered the best place is (Was) Nightflight club for take out . Very expensive similar to what River Palace was In Kiev .

Your best bet is to start now to research prices & girls on Sites suggested such as Mamba, mail.ru and doszug.ru

The going rate seems to be in the region of 2500ru for one hour (£50).

There are a lot of indies & freebies on the sites .

This is how i approached Kiev ,Ukraine. Start contacting the girls now ,let them know when are you going.

Build up a portfolio of girls with back up plans .

Be vague about how long you are going to stay ...A nice story about setting up a business in Moscow ,which would involve frequent re visits & longer stays ...

Never tell the girls its your first time In Moscow .

All the above help in your negotiations & liasons.

Few basic words of Russian doesn't do any harm as well .

Enjoy the girls & kaviar .

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Please don't Laugh ...I did Moscow when it was firmly Soviet, but i was with MOM..I was in my teens and we Stayed in a huge high rise Hotel (Intourist?? ) . The place was full of Hookers & very pretty Finnish tourists .

The opportunities were there ,but lack of space to perform the deed .

Enjoyed the Bolshoi& Swan Lake at very cheap prices.

I do follow the Sex scene on ISG ,and agree it is hard work if you are not familiar with the city and do not follow up the forum on regular basis .

From what i gathered the best place is (Was) Nightflight club for take out . Very expensive similar to what River Palace was In Kiev .

Your best bet is to start now to research prices & girls on Sites suggested such as Mamba, mail.ru and doszug.ru

The going rate seems to be in the region of 2500ru for one hour (£50).

There are a lot of indies & freebies on the sites .

This is how i approached Kiev ,Ukraine. Start contacting the girls now ,let them know when are you going.

Build up a portfolio of girls with back up plans .

Be vague about how long you are going to stay ...A nice story about setting up a business in Moscow ,which would involve frequent re visits & longer stays ...

Never tell the girls its your first time In Moscow .

All the above help in your negotiations & liasons.

Few basic words of Russian doesn't do any harm as well .

Enjoy the girls & kaviar .

This should keep you busy .

http://www.dosug.cz/servlet/en/stickers?id_part=2&id_country=50&id_city=1961

Prices & telephone nos .

If i were you ,i would try to phone few girls before you get to Moscow .

My theory is , if a girl is nice on the Phone ,she would be nicer when you meet her.

Assuming it is the same girl ....

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Not the best hotel but accommodation in Moscow is very costly. I think over the past 15 years Moscow population has tripled. Russia is a big country but commerce seems to be focused on 2-3 major cities and the rest struggling in poverty.

In most hotels you will find lots of WGs. It has been the same since 1992. In the early days the girls were all naive and fresh and went to these bars to meet foreigners and make some money on the side if they could. They are now very professional and around hotels like Kosmos you get the real professional ones all working under direction of their pimps.

Moscow is a dangerous place if you don't know your way around. It probably has the highest percentage of prostitute that anywhere else in the world. True there are many girls in Thailand too but these are concentrated in certain areas. In Moscow they are everywhere.

Arranging outcalls is safer than doing incalls. You will find it daunting walking up dimly lit stairways in Moscow's old apartment blocks and if you look positively foreign I advise you against venturing to such places late at night. One of the best sources for escorts in Moscow can be found http://www.rusdosug.com/index.php The site is both in Russian and English. I have tried few of the girls and they were all for real. I arranged both incalls and outcalls and paid between 100-150 USD for the hour+. Many escorts do not speak English but this is stated on their web page.

I know Moscow well and been there many times and lived there once for a year or so. Great fun to be had but you need to be a bit streetwise. I never had any problem with the WGs but I know of others who did. People getting rubbed, assaulted and poor English guy I knew who was drowned in his bath by Mafia. It transpired that he had a taste for WGs and god knows what he did to annoy the pimps.

I normally rent an apartment in Moscow and there are plenty on short term rental. For your first visit though perhaps staying in hotel is better although there is no real security anywhere in Moscow. It is a city with many different layers of mafia. Have fun but stay on the side of caution and do not take risks. Russian girls are beautiful and they are great in bed.

If you are reasonably good looking then try chatting up the bar maids and ordinary girls. The girls are quite open minded and they love men with a good sense of humour.

Sounds rather dodgy - I managed to get out of a trip to Moscow recently, maybe it was a lucky escape... ;)

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Sounds rather dodgy - I managed to get out of a trip to Moscow recently, maybe it was a lucky escape... ;)

I would happily travel there anytime. The last girl I saw in Moscow was so gorgeous and we had such horney time it was unbelievable. She was a picture of perfection and very young yet so liberated sexually. Sacry to think how advetureous she might become in her late 20s.

Moscow is dangerous but is is also a very fun place. It has everything you need for pleasure. Best restaurants, clubs, casinos, hotels, theatres and of course more importantly the most beautiful girls in the world.

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I would happily travel there anytime. The last girl I saw in Moscow was so gorgeous and we had such horney time it was unbelievable. She was a picture of perfection and very young yet so liberated sexually. Sacry to think how advetureous she might become in her late 20s.

Moscow is dangerous but is is also a very fun place. It has everything you need for pleasure. Best restaurants, clubs, casinos, hotels, theatres and of course more importantly the most beautiful girls in the world.

One thing The Evil Soviet Empire had going for it , Was Law& Order .

It was safe to go anywhere any time . Only big brother watching you .

As for the most beautiful Girls . I thought it was pattaya ?????

I think You can't beat Scandinavian girls on A warm summer day.

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i must have missed those really good looking ones in pattaya. russia just has many good looking girls compared to other places, in my opinion.

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Firstly, thanks for all the contributions to this thread.

I'm back from Moscow, and in the end (after a fair bit of deliberation), I elected not to punt.

I stayed at the Kosmos hotel, in North East Moscow, and as has already been said, there are plenty of WG's to be found there every night, although I didn't see them until 11pm generally. However, they seemed very at home, and seemed to have a "meeting" almost, in one of the lobby restaurants, after which they literally camped out at one of the tables, or the bar, every night.

I was working quite hard, so I only allowed myself to contemplate a punt on my last night in the hotel, and therefore didn't catch the eye of any of the ladies, until my last night in the hotel. Naturally, she then spoke to me, and negotiations began.

The lady quoted me 160 Euros/6000 Roubles/$200 for an hour, "fixed price" and further discussion revealed that OWO is definitely NOT up for discussion. This was my first reason for hesitation. The other main reason, was that all paths to the lifts were extremely well "guarded" by hotel security. No one could pass without showing your hotel guest card to a member of security, no matter what time of day or night. And they didn't seem to get lazy either, every single time I passed, the security would stop me and physically take my guest card and read it, before letting me go when he was satisfied. You might think that this was just tight security, like I did initially, but after even my Russian work colleagues telling me that corruption is extremely widespread, I began to believe that this "tight security" was a way for the security guards to ensure that they would "get their cut" of the WG's business, and I'm still convinced that this is the principle reason.

So, after becoming a bit disillusioned with the WG's atitude, because she(the one that I spoke to) was quite arrogant, and to be honest not the one I would have chosen if I could have decided whose eye I would have caught, if you follow; (and I feared that annoying her by saying "sorry, it's not you I would like to see but your mate etc" would have been unwise), and, the rather expensive price of some business (with no OWO), of which I'm sure some would have gone to Vladimir/Dimitri/Yevgeni the security guard, I just lost all enthusiasm, and I was quite happy not to have blown the cash in the end.

I will definitely say though, that (from what I saw every day, walking around) that the women in Moscow REALLY make an effort to be attractive. I feasted on the view of plenty of sexy stockings and high heels, in spite of the cold weather, and I can't remember seeing a bad looking woman at all. In fact I have a new found appreciation for Russian women, and I would like to go back. Maybe I'll go see Xenia!

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What about the rest of Russia or is Moscow the only city there worth considering? Just wondering if the scene will expand into other cities (notably the ones hosting WC matches in 2018). The Russian mafia will probably try and take advantage of the situation...

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What about the rest of Russia or is Moscow the only city there worth considering? Just wondering if the scene will expand into other cities (notably the ones hosting WC matches in 2018). The Russian mafia will probably try and take advantage of the situation...

Well of course there Is a scene In most Rus cities, BUT some knowledge of Russian would be advisable, don't you think the mafia already have a grip of the sex Industry.

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When I worked out in Russia many years ago, I was assigned an interpreter/escort. She was quite happy to find me sexual escorts, and I even nailed her a few times myself, there was no shame or embarrassment.

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Ah-The Cosmos Hotel!!! I know it well.The main atrium is surrounded by smaller themed bars(or used to be).One evening was spoiled when some guys entered the bar I was in,dragged a guy out,beat him,and then killed him by putting a bar stool leg end,through his eye! There were many WGs there,but the 'floor ladies' control everything.It's best to get a girl through them.There will then be no 'trouble' Good Luck.

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Ah-The Cosmos Hotel!!! I know it well.The main atrium is surrounded by smaller themed bars(or used to be).One evening was spoiled when some guys entered the bar I was in,dragged a guy out,beat him,and then killed him by putting a bar stool leg end,through his eye! There were many WGs there,but the 'floor ladies' control everything.It's best to get a girl through them.There will then be no 'trouble' Good Luck.

Thanks Crip!

I'm back now anyway, but I did some sightseeing and traveled the Moscow metro, which was tremendously atmospheric I have to say.

The Cosmos wasn't quite as bad as you describe, but I'll book somewhere else when I'm next in Moscow anyway. Incidentally, I've discovered a new parlour in Isleworth which has a few lovely looking Russian ladies that I might go and visit, just to get Moscow out of my system you understand...

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The Cosmos wasn't quite as bad as you describe, but I'll book somewhere else when I'm next in Moscow anyway. Incidentally, I've discovered a new parlour in Isleworth which has a few lovely looking Russian ladies that I might go and visit, just to get Moscow out of my system you understand...

Can you share the details of the place in Isleworth? I absolutely LOVE Russian girls! B)

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Well I can't believe am heading to Moscow next month for few days..Everything done - hotel, Visa & flight. As long as the bloody volcano doesn't erupt again, I'm good..Based on some research here-and-there on the Internet & on the ISG forum I can well conclude that gone are the days when picking up girls from the bar was like a having a cup of tea. The city has come very far and now there are plenty of Russian guys that have bit of cash in their hand. The girls perfer Russian men or at least foreigners that speak little Russian over someone that doesn't understand the Russian culture & can't speak Russian. This brings another point that registering in websites like Mamba is just not worth it if you lack any knowledge of the local culture. Each girl receives hundreds of messages everyday, all spammed by sex-hungry foreigners who think Mamba is some kinda of a free sex salon...But still a guy, as per his posts in ISG, managed to arrange meetings with 12 girls before making his trip to Moscow, which took him just 6 weeks.

Now all I'm interested in is some reliable escort websites. Have gone through rusdosug and there have been feedback that girls post fake pictures although the services advertised are real. Posting fake pics anyway is a very common thing in these E.European escort sites. Someone suggested me to have a look at devochki.ru. Have anyone used them before or how reliable are they in terms accuracy of the pictures?

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I'm heading back to Moscow next week, and I've been looking through the list of independents on rusdosug. Anyone here ever buy a pay as you go sim for Russia? I think I'd like to (I'm not even certain if I have an unlocked mobile lying around!), because a lot of the ladies on rusodosug only have telephone numbers, not emails.

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I'm heading back to Moscow next week, and I've been looking through the list of independents on rusdosug. Anyone here ever buy a pay as you go sim for Russia? I think I'd like to (I'm not even certain if I have an unlocked mobile lying around!), because a lot of the ladies on rusodosug only have telephone numbers, not emails.

Getting a local SIM sounds right, that's what I do when I travel abroad, and I think It will help you with Dosug girls, I've never had a Russian SIm, I'm wondering If you might have to register It with a Passport, I say that because when I visited Bulgaria a Bulgarian lady friend registered a SIM for me with her ID card. Anyway have a good trip, look forward to hearing how you get on.

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This might not be as easy as first thought!

I've chosen http://www.rusdosug.com/index.php (thanks Fred15), and I've emailed the ladies whose profiles said that they spoke English (and of course those that displayed an email address). After a few days with not a single reply, I've phoned 5 of those ladies, 4 answered, and 1 didn't. Guess what, no communication possible, because they don't speak English!

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This might not be as easy as first thought!

I've chosen http://www.rusdosug.com/index.php (thanks Fred15), and I've emailed the ladies whose profiles said that they spoke English (and of course those that displayed an email address). After a few days with not a single reply, I've phoned 5 of those ladies, 4 answered, and 1 didn't. Guess what, no communication possible, because they don't speak English!

That is not very surprising. Sometime if you are very patient and used to speaking to people who have very poor English then you may just get some information. Often the English is poor and there is no telling if whoever maintaining the site is putting the right information in. Just keep trying and I am sure you will find one that speaks some English. Be patient, speak very slowly and use very basic English. No long sentences. I am lucky as I speak enough English to get a conversation started and encourage them to make an effort to communicate. They are worth it.

What I also find is that whereas in the early days the WGs were very interested in European men, they are now more focused on local men or those from region. People locally have a lot of money now and can be quite generous and make Europeans look somewhat poor.

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Your hotel will almost certainly have girls working, often from a room neat the lifts or stairs. Usually an older "maid" is in charge and you can go in for a chat and choose. Other then that girls will often get into the lift with you in the larger hotels. You don't have to look too hard to get sorted. This applies on large hotels in the provincial cities too.

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