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Well after a few years punting I finally got scammed.

I'm staying in Heathrow tonight and tomorrow night and after getting no reply from loads of ads on a few sites I resorted to Craigslist.

Never punted from there before, and never will again.

Some character has a load of ads, and a few mobile numbers - Im not sure of the etiquitte here so I won't post the numbers.

The ads are all pretty much the same, advertising a girl from different parts of the world (eastern Europe, Brazil, Australia), there is usually a photo, and the rates are great.

They offer 4 hours for 220.

I really should have known better, but after ringing another load of numbers finally gave in and called the number.

A guy answered, lots of noise in the background and I made an appointment. Girl would be with me in 45 minutes.

Just over 2 hours later she arrived.

Some sort of eastern European, not the Aussie I had booked.

I paid, then she asked for an extra 20 for the "taxi"

Apologies about being late, then rang back to HQ to say she had arrived, then handed the phone to me.

To compensate me for the lateness they were giving me an extra hour free of charge.

But, the girl would have to go give the driver the money now and then come back.

At that point I knew this was a scam, and told him that we both know she wouldnt be coming back.

No, no, he said. He would get the driver to come up to the room and get the money if that would suit better.

So after a few minutes he arrives, takes the money and goes.

Then she insists I take a shower.

I tell her I've just had a shower, but she insists. No shower, no sex.

At this point im very worried about the laptop, wallet, phone, etc etc in my room, so I leave the bathroom door open and have a quick 30 second shower.

Then surprise, surprise she realises she has no condoms with her.

I left them in the car, she says, i'll just go and get them.

At that point despite being 240 down, I decided to put it down to experience and after telling her "we both know you aren't coming back", she left.

So. Very pissed off, but relieved because it could have been much worse.

Be warned!

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Well after a few years punting I finally got scammed.

I'm staying in Heathrow tonight and tomorrow night and after getting no reply from loads of ads on a few sites I resorted to Craigslist.

Never punted from there before, and never will again.

Some character has a load of ads, and a few mobile numbers - Im not sure of the etiquitte here so I won't post the numbers.

The ads are all pretty much the same, advertising a girl from different parts of the world (eastern Europe, Brazil, Australia), there is usually a photo, and the rates are great.

They offer 4 hours for 220.

I really should have known better, but after ringing another load of numbers finally gave in and called the number.

A guy answered, lots of noise in the background and I made an appointment. Girl would be with me in 45 minutes.

Just over 2 hours later she arrived.

Some sort of eastern European, not the Aussie I had booked.

I paid, then she asked for an extra 20 for the "taxi"

Apologies about being late, then rang back to HQ to say she had arrived, then handed the phone to me.

To compensate me for the lateness they were giving me an extra hour free of charge.

But, the girl would have to go give the driver the money now and then come back.

At that point I knew this was a scam, and told him that we both know she wouldnt be coming back.

No, no, he said. He would get the driver to come up to the room and get the money if that would suit better.

So after a few minutes he arrives, takes the money and goes.

Then she insists I take a shower.

I tell her I've just had a shower, but she insists. No shower, no sex.

At this point im very worried about the laptop, wallet, phone, etc etc in my room, so I leave the bathroom door open and have a quick 30 second shower.

Then surprise, surprise she realises she has no condoms with her.

I left them in the car, she says, i'll just go and get them.

At that point despite being 240 down, I decided to put it down to experience and after telling her "we both know you aren't coming back", she left.

So. Very pissed off, but relieved because it could have been much worse.

Be warned!

unless the rules have changed you can post a FR. If money was exchanged you can post a FR.

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Sorry to hear this, but as you say, the girl wasn't what you ordered, why did you hand over the money, If you knew It was a scam why didn't you take back your money and tell her to jog on?

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Then surprise, surprise she realises she has no condoms with her.

I left them in the car, she says, i'll just go and get them.

At that point despite being 240 down, I decided to put it down to experience and after telling her "we both know you aren't coming back", she left.

I always take a sealed pack of condoms with me, just in case the girl says that she has none, whether genuine or not.

I wouldn't have readily let her leave the room with the money. Having said that, if she started causing a scene and got nasty or threatening then I would, but I wouldn't have made it that easy for her.

Hindsight's a wonderful thing....but a lot of the signs of a scam were there.

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I always take a sealed pack of condoms with me, just in case the girl says that she has none, whether genuine or not.

I wouldn't have readily let her leave the room with the money. Having said that, if she started causing a scene and got nasty or threatening then I would, but I wouldn't have made it that easy for her.

Hindsight's a wonderful thing....but a lot of the signs of a scam were there.

I didn't let her leave the room, when she said she had to give it to the driver I objected and the driver came to the room.

At that point I was trying to think the best of the situation, and hoped i'd just read the situation wrong.

When she then started to try to get me to leave her alone, thats when I realised there was a real problem.

To be honest, the 240 is the least of the things she could have got away with. Expensive laptop, ipad, iphone, nice watch, wallet, etc etc

When she pulled the condom line, I just wanted her out of the room - as it happens there are actually condoms in the minibar, but it then would have been something else.

Why did I hand over the money when she wasn't what I "ordered"?

Don't know, although I have never asked a girl to leave when they have arrived, but to be fair never had too.

Chalk it up to experience.

Just pissed that I let myself get into that situation.

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that's awful, write a FR if it's permitted, well worth warning people of.

Is Craigslist all crap then?

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In the words of the title of your post, but the full bit, 'if it sounds too good to be true it probably is'

Edited by Joanna Manchester

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Spill the beans, Who was she & what agency, the WGs report on a dangerous punter listing on ths site, why should we not have somewhere to expose the ripp off WGs?

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Spill the beans, Who was she & what agency, the WGs report on a dangerous punter listing on ths site, why should we not have somewhere to expose the ripp off WGs?

There is and always has been, the FR system.

S x

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Well after a few years punting I finally got scammed.

I'm staying in Heathrow tonight and tomorrow night and after getting no reply from loads of ads on a few sites I resorted to Craigslist.

Never punted from there before, and never will again.

Some character has a load of ads, and a few mobile numbers - Im not sure of the etiquitte here so I won't post the numbers.

The ads are all pretty much the same, advertising a girl from different parts of the world (eastern Europe, Brazil, Australia), there is usually a photo, and the rates are great.

They offer 4 hours for 220.

I really should have known better, but after ringing another load of numbers finally gave in and called the number.

A guy answered, lots of noise in the background and I made an appointment. Girl would be with me in 45 minutes.

Just over 2 hours later she arrived.

Some sort of eastern European, not the Aussie I had booked.

I paid, then she asked for an extra 20 for the "taxi"

Apologies about being late, then rang back to HQ to say she had arrived, then handed the phone to me.

To compensate me for the lateness they were giving me an extra hour free of charge.

But, the girl would have to go give the driver the money now and then come back.

At that point I knew this was a scam, and told him that we both know she wouldnt be coming back.

No, no, he said. He would get the driver to come up to the room and get the money if that would suit better.

So after a few minutes he arrives, takes the money and goes.

Then she insists I take a shower.

I tell her I've just had a shower, but she insists. No shower, no sex.

At this point im very worried about the laptop, wallet, phone, etc etc in my room, so I leave the bathroom door open and have a quick 30 second shower.

Then surprise, surprise she realises she has no condoms with her.

I left them in the car, she says, i'll just go and get them.

At that point despite being 240 down, I decided to put it down to experience and after telling her "we both know you aren't coming back", she left.

So. Very pissed off, but relieved because it could have been much worse.

Be warned!

Gosh how awfully demoralising! You must have felt like laughing/crying at the same tiime!

Lighten up PT, Like all of us somtimes our heads dont keep up with our wants. Its an expensive lesson learned ( I learned a similar lesson in Rome where I was very cleverly robbed on the street while on holiday)

What I can't understand about you fellers, is when you read about so many scams and so many men having the wool pulled over their eyes, that you are still not using a tried and trusted source for your lady friends.

I'm not touting Pnet or anywhere else but how often do you hear of someone with say more than 5 reports on here or elsewhere who runs off with your money!.

Professional escorts are everywhere. How come so many men fall prey to these scams when there is such wealth of real professionals out there.

I guess not parting with your money until the bell rings for the first round is a good start.

This kind of behaviour reflects on us all as individuals and reinforces the stereotypical view of the profession but you chaps have to also remember

Its not actually all about prostitution, its about a theif using the profession as a cover, leaving us to take the fallout.

You were robbed by a theif, not by an escort.

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In the words of the title of your post, but the full bit, 'if it sounds too good to be true it probably is'

Absolutely. You guys should learn to see fantastically cheap offers more as a worm for the hook than a genuine offer.

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Spill the beans, Who was she & what agency, the WGs report on a dangerous punter listing on ths site, why should we not have somewhere to expose the ripp off WGs?

Oh Arty dont be taken in by it. Your as bad as any other WG persecutor.

She is not a working girl. She is part of an East European criminal gang. She is posing as a working girl to rob men who think they have booked a working girl. She is part of a gang of thieves, not an escort.

If someone poses as a gas man in order to rob a pensioner, she hasnt been robber by the gas man has she!

If she was a working girl she would have done what working girls do!

Edited by Helen Jones

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There is and always has been, the FR system.

S x

Assuming that the lady is not on the "No Reports" list of course. If the lady is not on the "No Reports" list I wonder if a Field Report along the lines of "Scammer etc." would precipitate her being put on the "No Reports" list?

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Sorry to hear but there were some early signs which should of got the alarm bells ringing.Dont think you are the only one mate,I was conned out of a similar amount of cash but it was not in this country and a diff style of scam.But I cut my losses and pulled out when it became obvious what they were doing.

Its a shame this happened because even though im not from west london I know that there are many many reputable agencies and indies who operate around that area and in some cases specifically for the 'hotel market' etc

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I would recommemd doing a Google search on any phone number listed on a Craigslist post so you can get an idea of whether

this is likely to be a scam or not.

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I would advise anyone who asked me to avoid craigslist like the plague. Some dozy twat put a profile on there for several weeks and a picture of a barely recognisable lindsay lohan saying she was a 21 year old polish girl called chloe and MY work phone number.

I say dozy twat cos only a twat would do that and dozy for thinking one of the guys ringing would not explain the advert or ask me if it was really me in the pictures.x

It is too easy for any old one to put a fake advert on there.x

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Oh Arty dont be taken in by it. Your as bad as any other WG persecutor.

She is not a working girl. She is part of an East European criminal gang. She is posing as a working girl to rob men who think they have booked a working girl. She is part of a gang of thieves, not an escort.

If someone poses as a gas man in order to rob a pensioner, she hasnt been robber by the gas man has she!

If she was a working girl she would have done what working girls do!

Excellent post Helen. And surely the definitive & final word on the issue!

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It seems you were just resigned to the fact that it was a scam all along. I feel sorry for you OP. I think you should have caused more of a fuss however. As others have mentioned, she was a common thief and NOT a wg. If a thief came into my house and tried to rob me, I wouldnt let them walk out of the door like that.

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I'm always puzzled by this sort of scam. I would have thought it would be more straightforward for the girl just to have sex with the bloke. She gets the same money, it just takes a bit longer, but less hassle, risk of violence, someone calling the police etc.

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It seems you were just resigned to the fact that it was a scam all along. I feel sorry for you OP. I think you should have caused more of a fuss however. As others have mentioned, she was a common thief and NOT a wg. If a thief came into my house and tried to rob me, I wouldnt let them walk out of the door like that.

The difference is the thief knows, that in this situation you're not going to want to draw attention to yourself by reporting this to the hotel or the police. If they tried this with a single guy that didn't give a shit who would find out what he was up to, it would end differently I'm sure.

It's a similar situation with the clip joints in Soho. They get away with it because people are reluctant to report it. I should know, as me and a mate were 'clipped' good and proper in Soho when we were not even 18.

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But the driver is her boyfriend, and he doesn't want her having sex with any Tom, Dick or Harry does he ?

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I'm always puzzled by this sort of scam. I would have thought it would be more straightforward for the girl just to have sex with the bloke. She gets the same money, it just takes a bit longer, but less hassle, risk of violence, someone calling the police etc.

I used to think the same way. All the hard work had been done- why not just continue. Then I realised why she wouldnt continue with a service.

She isnt an escort - shes a thief. An escort provides a service the thief steals the money.

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The difference is the thief knows, that in this situation you're not going to want to draw attention to yourself by reporting this to the hotel or the police. If they tried this with a single guy that didn't give a shit who would find out what he was up to, it would end differently I'm sure.

The problem is that you don't know how it could end.

She could give the money back... or she could call her boyfriend up from the car-park. He could have a baseball-bat or a knife.

The punter could call the police. I doubt that they'd turn up but if they did, she could say that the punter got rough and tried to beat her up. If that happens then punter's looking at a trip to the station and having his fingerprints, photos and a dna mouth-swab taken.

Even if the police bothered to investigate the scam (Fraud Act 2006) and I doubt that they would, the fact that the complainant sees prostitutes is going to be entered on the PNC and every time he has any dealings with the police that's going to come up on the computer when the police input his name and dob.

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