Mr DivineMK

Goals, Success And Nirvana

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Interested to know what everyone's goals, idea of success and what their own punting nirvana would be. This is open to all obviously punters, WG's and any form of SP's.

Clients . What is your ultimate punting nirvana? For instance would you be content if you met a WG who fulfilled all your desires or do you think that after a while you would be left wanting once those particular fantasies were sated ?

What would be your ultimate punting environment?

Girls. What are your professional goals within the industry? Do you have an exit strategy or are you content as long as your healthy and earning? Do feel pressure to adapt to demands be they external or internal to remain successful?

Agencies. Apart from the obvious financial gauge how else do you measure your success?

The reason I ask these questions is that I personally sense a lot of disharmony within the industry that I have not experienced in 8 years. Clients have become more demanding which is only natural given the choice, prices and services currently available. Customer demand is the same in any industry if the market is 'flooded'. Girls seem to be chasing the elusive pot of gold rather than settle down to build a client base of their own be it as an indie or with a agency.

Personally my own personal Nirvana would be licenses granted to a certain number of premises dependant on the size of the town and for the industry to be legalised. I doubt however this will ever happen in my lifetime.

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Girls. What are your professional goals within the industry? Do you have an exit strategy or are you content as long as your healthy and earning? Do feel pressure to adapt to demands be they external or internal to remain successful?

My goals are simply to earn enough money to be able to say 'Yes, let's do that/buy that/ go there' without too much agonising. This is a 'secondary' income for me as my 'primary' income just about pays the bills. At the moment I have a healthy enough client base to meet my goals.

I won't change the way I work or the services I offer because it works for me and I'm happy. I enjoy what I do and want to carry on enjoying it - too much 'striving' to 'remain competitive' won't facilitate that. My prices are pretty low compared to the average for indies, so they won't go any lower.

As for an exit strategy - that's what people have when they don't really want to carry on doing what they do. I do - so I'll carry on for as long as the phone keeps ringing.

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In my experience there are certain Thai escorts (working through agencies) on the scene who continue to provide the 'Gold Standard' of punting experience at a rate of £150/hr.

When girls are at least as attractive as their agency photos, actually DO provide the services as listed and with enthusiasm, are sweet, charming, personable, communicative and go out of their way to ensure that you are comfortable and thoroughly enjoy your time with them - what more can you ask for ?

Well - 'chemistry' and the 'click' - These same Thai escorts are the ones who fulfil all of the above yet I also effortlessly and easily 'clicked' with them and that undefinable and elusive quantity 'chemistry' was ever-present.

Outside of 'ultimate fantasy punts' I cant think of any practical or realistic way in which these experiences could be improved.

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I don't think I have a punting nirvana, or at least I don't think I want one. If I have such a thing in mind, I think I would constantly be comparing each punt to a false image of perfection. I am quite happy to take each punt as it happens and appreciate the differences that each punt brings. But I do have a list (and I suspect all punters have such a list) of ladies I would like to see in the coming months, and experiences I would like to try, and the list will change and evolve over time, based on the experiences of those punts.

Put bluntly want I want now, isn't going to be the same as what I want in a years time. And unless there is a shapeshifter who is also a WG, I know I won't meet a lady that meets all my desires, as some days it might be for a statuesque blond, other days a petite brunette.

Personally my own personal Nirvana would be licenses granted to a certain number of premises dependant on the size of the town and for the industry to be legalised. I doubt however this will ever happen in my lifetime.

As for your nivana, I wouldn't want to see a fixed number of licenses, as it limits competition when all the licenses are used up. But your are right it isn't going to for a while yet. The only way I can see it ever being legalised is slowly over time, starting with allowing 2 wg to work in the same premisies, but even that doesn't look likely at the moment, given the position of the political parties, and the way they portray the industry.

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In my experience there are certain Thai escorts (working through agencies) on the scene who continue to provide the 'Gold Standard' of punting experience at a rate of £150/hr.

When girls are at least as attractive as their agency photos, actually DO provide the services as listed and with enthusiasm, are sweet, charming, personable, communicative and go out of their way to ensure that you are comfortable and thoroughly enjoy your time with them - what more can you ask for ?

Well - 'chemistry' and the 'click' - These same Thai escorts are the ones who fulfil all of the above yet I also effortlessly and easily 'clicked' with them and that undefinable and elusive quantity 'chemistry' was ever-present.

Outside of 'ultimate fantasy punts' I cant think of any practical or realistic way in which these experiences could be improved.

Interesting. In our experience the girls on top of their game don't stay there for long, hard to write without offending anyone currently working for us but even they know that there are certain girls who stand out. Devon, Zara and Maria for instance, there are others too. All these girls were on top of their 'game' and most clients will agree. However this took it's toll emotionally with them all and they bowed out before they became jaded thus retaining their 'enigma' status. Other girls have peaked then become jaded but remained in the industry too long afterwards, this has reflected in their business and criticism from the clients in turn. I find this sad as they still probably offer a very good service compared to the majority but have become worn out by the emotional and physical success their initial fame brought them.

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I always wanted a house in the country to run an agency from.

The Convent in Northampton was a pinnacle for us in regards to premises that suited a purpose and it was sublime in regards to the decor, fixtures and fittings. Sadly it was not be due again to jealous competitors.

We were presented a 10 bedroom manor house that sat in 8 acres in Shillington in Bucks last year. Again ideal but would clients travel to us, would girls be arsed to get to us with due consideration we turned that particular opportunity down. Commercial premises are the way forward in the short term but again you can spend a lot of money then get moved on by the planning office if you are not successful in your application for change of use. We luckily achieved this for Ego Massage but failed on another property in Bedford.

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I always wanted a house in the country to run an agency from.

The Convent in Northampton was a pinnacle for us in regards to premises that suited a purpose and it was sublime in regards to the decor, fixtures and fittings. Sadly it was not be due again to jealous competitors.

We were presented a 10 bedroom manor house that sat in 8 acres in Shillington in Bucks last year. Again ideal but would clients travel to us, would girls be arsed to get to us with due consideration we turned that particular opportunity down. Commercial premises are the way forward in the short term but again you can spend a lot of money then get moved on by the planning office if you are not successful in your application for change of use. We luckily achieved this for Ego Massage but failed on another property in Bedford.

Ah! Big houses in the country! I think mine lasted 10 days, before the police, council and their rolls of tape arrived. Best leave that dream until being Mr DivineMK is decriminalised and unicorns once again run free through the wooded glades of Buckinghamshire. The bigger the premises the more furniture you have to move in....then move out again a week later.

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I just realised there is one thing I do wish for in my ideal punting environment. A proper king size bed, with space around it, and nothing sticking up at the bottom end of the bed. Queen sized beds are just too small for someone my height.

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A lady who makes me believe she really DOES want to rip my clothes off!

(I realize this requires certain delusions on my part. :)

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My punting Nirvana for the last two months or so has been in MK with Karolina (MBK's & Decadentdivas) and Jasmine (Annabellas & Decadentdivas).

90 or 120 minute punts alternating between these two. 7 with Karolina and 5 with Jasmine so far and well worth the couple of thousand spent.

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Personally my own personal Nirvana would be licenses granted to a certain number of premises dependant on the size of the town and for the industry to be legalised. I doubt however this will ever happen in my lifetime.

We still live in hope

It would make sense for all sides of this was the case

It would reduce significantly the trafficking and other "bad" sides which although I don't think are anywhere near the levels that are portrayed in the media, I am also not naive enough to think it does not happen.

Legalise, License, Regulate !

Best for everyone.

Lets be optimistic and hope that it DOES happen in your lifetime :)

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My Ideal punting environment would be pretty much anywhere that had ensuite rooms with a hot tub and far away from those minging crappy flats in CMK. I hope that I will never again walk through he doors of one of those north 9/10/11th street council estate, stinks of piss shit holes again. I can understand that a 5 star flat may come with neighbours who don't approve, while crack heads and the unemployed don't care about the brothel next door but even the air in those CMK flats feels dirty. Finding a premises must be hard but so is trying to shag in a building full of heroin addicts asylum seekers and the unemployed.

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My Ideal punting environment would be pretty much anywhere that had ensuite rooms with a hot tub and far away from those minging crappy flats in CMK. I hope that I will never again walk through he doors of one of those north 9/10/11th street council estate, stinks of piss shit holes again. I can understand that a 5 star flat may come with neighbours who don't approve, while crack heads and the unemployed don't care about the brothel next door but even the air in those CMK flats feels dirty. Finding a premises must be hard but so is trying to shag in a building full of heroin addicts asylum seekers and the unemployed.

Never has reality been so poorly portrayed.

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Clients . What is your ultimate punting nirvana? For instance would you be content if you met a WG who fulfilled all your desires or do you think that after a while you would be left wanting once those particular fantasies were sated ?

What would be your ultimate punting environment?

Interesting questions....hard to think of an answer...

What is your ultimate punting nirvana?

My punting nirvana would be if Fern Cotton, Megan Fox, Kaley Cuoco and the blonde girl from chuck started working in MK.....

And a cure for Brewers droop... <ahem>

and a nice room with an ensuite. (The best punts Ive had is when theres more than just a bed. I treat my punts like a date. And not to be imprisoned in a cell...)

But most of the time its time to and being ready for a punt (close shaved, showered, etc) but I need to work so unless its a weekend (or I have a day off) I'll have to plan in advance and hope I can make it. Done some evening punts to test the water as I'm worried shed be "shagged out", hence early bookings but even then shave and shower its tight to get to somewhere before 7.

And to have a really close nice shave it does take about 2 or 3 days growth to get a really close shave. So if theres a cancellation, etc... thats put the next few days out for contingencies....

For instance would you be content if you met a WG who fulfilled all your desires or do you think that after a while you would be left wanting once those particular fantasies were sated ?

Oh thats what you meant...forget the bit about brewers droop.....

I'd like to think so.

I think if Im happy with one girl I'll just see them, I've got a regular who takes priority (usually).....BUT a quick look at the schedules and galleries and FRs..and tempted to see what someone else is like..and if shes not around, see someone else. but I always come back to my regular. Sometimes its been great with a new girl but then have the dilema of trying to manage seeing both, or all three.. or 5..

What would be your ultimate punting environment?

Beach side villa? With no neighbours for miles....

Save that a 5 star hotel room? Lounge, bedroom, bathroom....... no other punters..intimate date for 2 :)

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My Ideal punting environment would be pretty much anywhere that had ensuite rooms with a hot tub and far away from those minging crappy flats in CMK. I hope that I will never again walk through he doors of one of those north 9/10/11th street council estate, stinks of piss shit holes again. I can understand that a 5 star flat may come with neighbours who don't approve, while crack heads and the unemployed don't care about the brothel next door but even the air in those CMK flats feels dirty. Finding a premises must be hard but so is trying to shag in a building full of heroin addicts asylum seekers and the unemployed.

Hod used to have great flats with ensuites.

The only neighbour who disapproved and complained was an independent escort.... I'll withhold her name..

which one was it that you visited? 9th, 10th, or 11th?

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Done some evening punts to test the water as I'm worried shed be "shagged out", hence early bookings but even then shave and shower its tight to get to somewhere before 7.

I really can not understand it. Why guys thinking if they have an evening booking, then WG will be "shagged out"? It must be a typical "parlour punter" mindset: the earliest appointment, better be first first punter of the day, because she is not so tired, does not smells of previous punters and so on...

There are so many girls who only work in this industry part time and seeing one maybe two clients a week, mostly in the evening (after they finished theirs studies or civvy jobs at 5-6pm). Still: the parlour closing routine at 8pm (or at least the ones in MK) must have done it, to establish certain strict punting schedules for the clients. It like getting to supermarket before 8pm closing time, grab the basic necessities, and shoot off.

To drive to 24 hours one, its to much of the bother, as well as slowly and selectively choose appropriate ingredients without the rush, better be left to the bon vivante types. ;-)

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I really can not understand it. Why guys thinking if they have an evening booking, then WG will be "shagged out"? It must be a typical "parlour punter" mindset: the earliest appointment, better be first first punter of the day, because she is not so tired, does not smells of previous punters and so on...

There are so many girls who only work in this industry part time and seeing one maybe two clients a week, mostly in the evening (after they finished theirs studies or civvy jobs at 5-6pm). Still: the parlour closing routine at 8pm (or at least the ones in MK) must have done it, to establish certain strict punting schedules for the clients. It like getting to supermarket before 8pm closing time, grab the basic necessities, and shoot off.

To drive to 24 hours one, its to much of the bother, as well as slowly and selectively choose appropriate ingredients without the rush, better be left to the bon vivante types. ;-)

I think it's the fear that if they see a girl who started work at 11 and you see them at 7, a girl who likes cim and while you like DFK. if min punt is 30 minutes then that potentially is 17 previous client CIM she may have done. Not really up for a nice smooch.....she may have only seen 1 but still.... :blink:

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My Ideal punting environment would be pretty much anywhere that had ensuite rooms with a hot tub and far away from those minging crappy flats in CMK. I hope that I will never again walk through he doors of one of those north 9/10/11th street council estate, stinks of piss shit holes again. I can understand that a 5 star flat may come with neighbours who don't approve, while crack heads and the unemployed don't care about the brothel next door but even the air in those CMK flats feels dirty. Finding a premises must be hard but so is trying to shag in a building full of heroin addicts asylum seekers and the unemployed.

Do you work for Milton Keynes Tourist Board ?

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My Ideal punting environment would be pretty much anywhere that had ensuite rooms with a hot tub and far away from those minging crappy flats in CMK. I hope that I will never again walk through he doors of one of those north 9/10/11th street council estate, stinks of piss shit holes again. I can understand that a 5 star flat may come with neighbours who don't approve, while crack heads and the unemployed don't care about the brothel next door but even the air in those CMK flats feels dirty. Finding a premises must be hard but so is trying to shag in a building full of heroin addicts asylum seekers and the unemployed.

You forgot to mention the 'John Lewis' opposite.... :o

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My Ideal punting environment would be pretty much anywhere that had ensuite rooms with a hot tub and far away from those minging crappy flats in CMK. I hope that I will never again walk through he doors of one of those north 9/10/11th street council estate, stinks of piss shit holes again. I can understand that a 5 star flat may come with neighbours who don't approve, while crack heads and the unemployed don't care about the brothel next door but even the air in those CMK flats feels dirty. Finding a premises must be hard but so is trying to shag in a building full of heroin addicts asylum seekers and the unemployed.

You really need to pick where you punt a little more carefully. In all our years of trading we only ever had one flat in the area you describe and the neighbours were 1 old lady, I single man and I single nurse. You know what you should have gone to House of Divine you would have found much nicer flats although despite renting what is classed as high end in MK we have never managed to find a hot tub. Shame really because brothels are normally so exclusive and salubrious that it must have been a real shock for you in MK

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You really need to pick where you punt a little more carefully. In all our years of trading we only ever had one flat in the area you describe and the neighbours were 1 old lady, I single man and I single nurse. You know what you should have gone to House of Divine you would have found much nicer flats although despite renting what is classed as high end in MK we have never managed to find a hot tub. Shame really because brothels are normally so exclusive and salubrious that it must have been a real shock for you in MK

I tried punting a few times and decided it was not for me. I don't expect a hot tub but it could be fun to spend a while drinking a glass of champange in the hot tub as part of a punt. Personally I would prefer to pay more and get more if I was to punt again but brothels seem to be tied to a price point of around 120 per hour and there is only so much you can get for that. The big house in the country luxury brothel is more a pipe dream than a reality in the UK for obvious reasons but the question was about punting nirvana not reality.

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Presently I'm in a definite (albeit pleasant) "rut" in my life. I guess one of the main reasons I punt occasionally (well apart from the obvious fact I enjoy it) is that it forces me out of my pleasant routine... and I feel that's good, can get too settled. I'm sure I get substantial benefits from this. (e.g. I "tidy" myself up a bit and eat and drink more sensibly in lead in to punt.)

But part of me has always wished some suitable lady lived close enough to make punting a more frequent event. Perhaps that represents my "punting Nirvana"? But... maybe.... because it might just lead to my punting becoming part of my "everyday" routine.... it might take away many of the advantages of my present "system".

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Interesting. In our experience the girls on top of their game don't stay there for long, hard to write without offending anyone currently working for us but even they know that there are certain girls who stand out. Devon, Zara and Maria for instance, there are others too. All these girls were on top of their 'game' and most clients will agree. However this took it's toll emotionally with them all and they bowed out before they became jaded thus retaining their 'enigma' status. Other girls have peaked then become jaded but remained in the industry too long afterwards, this has reflected in their business and criticism from the clients in turn. I find this sad as they still probably offer a very good service compared to the majority but have become worn out by the emotional and physical success their initial fame brought them.

I agree but most ladies here will totally disagree with you as you know.

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Clients . What is your ultimate punting nirvana?

To punt without the complication of any STDs would bring the enjoyment of punting to a new level for me. No need for those horrible condoms, health checks for stds,no need to ensure I cannot pass on an std to my wife-- these would all make a massive difference to the enjoyment of punting.

For instance would you be content if you met a WG who fulfilled all your desires or do you think that after a while you would be left wanting once those particular fantasies were sated ?

I cant see myself ever seeing a 'regular'-- fair play to those guys who can,as if it works it must be a great option. Punting for me is about variety and I would feel bored and awkward seeing the same girl over and over again. I dont want a relationship and if I got into a regular , I think I would suffer.

What would be your ultimate punting environment?

I really fancy a couple of days of complete debauchery with a few good mates and some great escorts in a fantastic country house retreat type setting. Great company, fab food, booze, music and mad wild sex in a relaxed and fun atmosphere !! Not sure how to go about this but I'll have to get my thinking cap on.! :D

The reason I ask these questions is that I personally sense a lot of disharmony within the industry that I have not experienced in 8 years. Clients have become more demanding which is only natural given the choice, prices and services currently available.

How is your average punter become more demanding ? It seems to me most guys just want the stock-in-trade services, delivered by an attractive sexy girl with a good attitude ,in a clean relaxed environment ?

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How is your average punter become more demanding ? It seems to me most guys just want the stock-in-trade services, delivered by an attractive sexy girl with a good attitude ,in a clean relaxed environment ?

I wouldn't say the "average" punter but there does seem to be an increase in punters who demand more. Sadly sometimes this is not done with the same level of increase in respect for the ladies.

The problem comes when certain punters beleive that "because they are paying" means that they look on the ladies as a piece of meat who should perform everything that punter demands simply because he pulls a couple of purple notes out of his wallet.

Just because I have quoted cumandgo's post does not mean that I am directing this at him in any way shape or form, just highlighting that SOME punters DO actually think that way

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