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Bb, A New Trend?

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Over the years I've had the odd request for bareback which I've obviously turned down, it says on my site that penetration must be protected and that is a rule I've strictly adhered to. However this last ten days I've had three different men ring and ask if I'd do it, saying that they were prepared to pay more. When I've told them it's definitely not on the menu they've then asked for a covered booking, however by then I have decided I don't trust them and refused to see them anyway. I just find it strange that I've had this sudden surge in such enquiries, anyone else had the same experience?

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Current downturn and loss of jobs across europe has caused prices to fall and competition to increase. When I call up working women and ask them if other services are available, you normally get extra for sex without, after which I decline ! I think the lack of advertising around HIV has made people become complacent. There is definitely more women offering BB in London, since say last year.

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Current downturn and loss of jobs across europe has caused prices to fall and competition to increase. When I call up working women and ask them if other services are available, you normally get extra for sex without, after which I decline ! I think the lack of advertising around HIV has made people become complacent. There is definitely more women offering BB in London, since say last year.

Downturn..........Europe........prices.......competition......services...HIV......BB.........London.......and a years study on woman offering BB

All this gleaned from calling working woman. Puts 118 118 to shame :lol:

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Downturn..........Europe........prices.......competition......services...HIV......BB.........London.......and a years study on woman offering BB

All this gleaned from calling working woman. Puts 118 118 to shame :lol:

Come on its the truth. 10 years ago I had never even heard of women offering BB ! In fact if you went to a flat you normally wouldnt get kissing or oral without !. For that you needed to pay up to £150.

Now for £80-100 you get the lot. And BB is readily advertised for another £30 - 100 ! Its competition for sure.

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Come on its the truth. 10 years ago I had never even heard of women offering BB ! In fact if you went to a flat you normally wouldnt get kissing or oral without !. For that you needed to pay up to £150.

Now for £80-100 you get the lot. And BB is readily advertised for another £30 - 100 ! Its competition for sure.

This weekend, a lady in Germany was telling me that she gets a lot of men asking for BB, and even offering to pay her an extra €50 :o She tells them that the price for BB is €15,000,000 which is needed to cover the lifetime cost of medical treatment when she gets HIV, and compensation for her children when she dies. She also told me that nobody has taken her up on that offer as yet :D

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Come on its the truth.

10 years ago I had never even heard of women offering BB ! In fact if you went to a flat you normally wouldnt get kissing or oral without !. For that you needed to pay up to £150.

Now for £80-100 you get the lot. And BB is readily advertised for another £30 - 100 ! Its competition for sure.

What you heard about or failed to notice 10 years ago has very little to do with the truth.

If you want the truth, I dont think you know what your talking about. But its your prerogative to have an opinion no matter how bazaar or lacking in fact it actually is.

Have you tried 118 118 btw

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I was surprised to hear on another forum that there are sauna girls who offer up BB on a regular basis in the right circumstances, including a girl I had seen and had a fantastic time with. It's put me off seeing that girl again as I now worry about her general health and hygene.

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Wouldn't dream of asking a w.g. for B.B. I am certain that the Ladies I see would tell me to "sling my hook" if I did - or call for the blokes in the white coats!! I may be old but I am not senile (yet).

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What you heard about or failed to notice 10 years ago has very little to do with the truth.

If you want the truth, I dont think you know what your talking about. But its your prerogative to have an opinion no matter how bazaar or lacking in fact it actually is.

Have you tried 118 118 btw

It would appear that 10 years ago you were still playing with your teddy bears ! So not sure what you would know....but you are also entitled to your own opinion !

I forgot to mention, you were probably in your nappies when the whole HIV adverts kicked off, so I doubt you would have ever seen one on TV ??

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It would appear that 10 years ago you were still playing with your teddy bears ! So not sure what you would know....but you are also entitled to your own opinion !

I forgot to mention, you were probably in your nappies when the whole HIV adverts kicked off, so I doubt you would have ever seen one on TV ??

My friend I am guessing there is a point to this little tizz but its wasted on me.

Your assumption is because I am younger than you I have no knowledge of HIV and because your knocking on and have seen an avert your all omnipotent.

Your posts are woffle and have no factual element to them. I take my health seriously because not only does my income depend on it but my life also.

your probably feeling hurt and wounded that your crap posts have been rubbished and the only way you know how to deal with it, is to throw verbal from your high chair with a plastic spoon. Your old news my friend but fill your boots if you feel it helps.

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One thing will stop this dangerous practice, legislate! Make the brothels also de criminalised and regulated, the better ones will welcome this!

NZ prostitution reform act 2003

8 Operators of businesses of prostitution must adopt and promote safer sex practices

(1) Every operator of a business of prostitution must—

(a) take all reasonable steps to ensure that no commercial sexual services are provided by a sex worker unless a prophylactic sheath or other appropriate barrier is used if those services involve vaginal, anal, or oral penetration or another activity with a similar or greater risk of acquiring or transmitting sexually transmissible infections; and

(B) take all reasonable steps to give health information (whether oral or written) to sex workers and clients; and

© if the person operates a brothel, display health information prominently in that brothel; and

(d) not state or imply that a medical examination of a sex worker means the sex worker is not infected, or likely to be infected, with a sexually transmissible infection; and

(e) take all other reasonable steps to minimise the risk of sex workers or clients acquiring or transmitting sexually transmissible infections.

(2) Every person who contravenes subsection (1) commits an offence and is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding $10,000.

(3) The obligations in this section apply only in relation to commercial sexual services provided for the business and to sex workers and clients in connection with those services.

(4) In this section, health information means information on safer sex practices and on services for the prevention and treatment of sexually transmissible infections.

Sex workers and clients must adopt safer sex practices

(1) A person must not provide or receive commercial sexual services unless he or she has taken all reasonable steps to ensure a prophylactic sheath or other appropriate barrier is used if those services involve vaginal, anal, or oral penetration or another activity with a similar or greater risk of acquiring or transmitting sexually transmissible infections.

(2) A person must not, for the purpose of providing or receiving commercial sexual services, state or imply that a medical examination of that person means that he or she is not infected, or likely to be infected, with a sexually transmissible infection.

(3) A person who provides or receives commercial sexual services must take all other reasonable steps to minimise the risk of acquiring or transmitting sexually transmissible infections.

(4) Every person who contravenes subsection (1), subsection (2), or subsection (3) commits an offence and is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding $2,000.

He is right, 10 years ago when I go into the industry BB (within my circles) was unheard of, so was oral without and kissing, this was not limited to parlours and Indies these safer practices were also adopted on the street scene.

S x

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My friend I am guessing there is a point to this little tizz but its wasted on me.

Your assumption is because I am younger than you I have no knowledge of HIV and because your knocking on and have seen an avert your all omnipotent.

Your posts are woffle and have no factual element to them.

I take my health seriously because not only does my income depend on it but my life also.

your probably feeling hurt and wounded that your crap posts have been rubbished and the only way you know how to deal with it, is to throw verbal from your high chair with a plastic spoon. Your old news my friend but fill your boots if you feel it helps.

Excellent point, Lou- guys thinking with lower brain may well forget that thier immediate pleasure can have ongoing consequences.

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One thing will stop this dangerous practice, legislate! Make the brothels also de criminalised and regulated, the better ones will welcome this!

He is right, 10 years ago when I go into the industry BB (within my circles) was unheard of, so was oral without and kissing, this was not limited to parlours and Indies these safer practices were also adopted on the street scene.

S x

lou4fun not sure where you are based, but London is very different to the rest of the country due to higher number of immigrants whether legal or illegal. And as you are working in the industry you may be aware of HIV. However punters probably 5 years my junior were never exposed to the huge amount of HIV adverts that were there. And it is not you who controls demand for the service, but the punters.

I think we are all for legislation. The main problem is that a lot of sex workers keep their other lives private. Similarly punters. So where other areas of legislative changes get backing by people in numbers through demonstrations or writing to MPs, the vast majority of the people in this industry (particularly the workers) suffer in silence and cannot take to the street in protest.

Whether this is being mugged for your takings, having BB forced on you or being raided by the ex Stalin Gestapo seems to be part of the industry. Funnily enough it encourages sex trafficking as nothing is monitored together with other crime such as money laundering and physical abuse. And if you report it to the Gestapo it will be you that will be taken in for the crime, they will look no further. The current laws are there to ensure that sex workers can be abused, criminalized, have no recourse to help. It allows mostly men punters and pimps to get away with a lot more than they could in NZ for example.

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lou4fun not sure where you are based, but London is very different to the rest of the country due to higher number of immigrants whether legal or illegal.

The number of HIV cases is not necessarily caused by the number of immigrants coming into the London sex industry.It is influenced by some immigratation,that I agree with.But many cases are spreading via British born individuals through BB sex etc I have colleagues who work for GUM clinics in London, they say it is more difficult to catch HIV compared to say Chlamydia but the point is if you do catch HIV then there is no going back for you,game over.

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Last week a friend of mine was invited to a birthday party where the host had arranged for a couple of girls to be present. Although my friend is a seasoned punter, he was horrified (and declined to participate) when it became clear that everything was BB. 10 men, 2 girls, no protection. Beggars belief!

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The number of HIV cases is not necessarily caused by the number of immigrants coming into the London sex industry.It is influenced by some immigratation,that I agree with.But many cases are spreading via British born individuals through BB sex etc I have colleagues who work for GUM clinics in London, they say it is more difficult to catch HIV compared to say Chlamydia but the point is if you do catch HIV then there is no going back for you,game over.

I wasn't implying that immigration causes HIV - more immigrants are less informed both working girls and punters and therefore more likely to engage in dangerous behavior. This is particularly true of foreign working girls who seem to offer BB.

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Over the years I've had the odd request for bareback which I've obviously turned down, it says on my site that penetration must be protected and that is a rule I've strictly adhered to. However this last ten days I've had three different men ring and ask if I'd do it, saying that they were prepared to pay more. When I've told them it's definitely not on the menu they've then asked for a covered booking, however by then I have decided I don't trust them and refused to see them anyway. I just find it strange that I've had this sudden surge in such enquiries, anyone else had the same experience?

Is it possible that they want to be sure that you don't provide BB before they book? Just a thought.

I normally quickly skip the ad when I see BB. I would love to know if the lady provides BB before I book. Perhaps in future I should call and offer £100 extra for this and see if she accpets before I book.

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Have you tried 118 118 btw

Is this a new position? I've never managed to get beyond 69 69. ;)

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Is this a new position? I've never managed to get beyond 69 69. ;)

ah you go punting with a buddy :D

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Is it possible that they want to be sure that you don't provide BB before they book? Just a thought.

I normally quickly skip the ad when I see BB. I would love to know if the lady provides BB before I book. Perhaps in future I should call and offer £100 extra for this and see if she accpets before I book.

I suppose it is possible that they want to be sure that I don't provide BB before they book. However this way we both lose out, they do because the don't get to see me and I do because I refuse to see them. :unsure:

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I suppose it is possible that they want to be sure that I don't provide BB before they book. However this way we both lose out, they do because the don't get to see me and I do because I refuse to see them. :unsure:

Ditto

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I suppose it is possible that they want to be sure that I don't provide BB before they book. However this way we both lose out, they do because the don't get to see me and I do because I refuse to see them. :unsure:

All I can say is that BB is being practiced even if you are not looking for it. I have been offered this on occaions by ladies working for established agencies who don't advertise it as a service. It is unfotunate as in the heat of the moment, a less experience punter may well go with it. I guess the girls think that this might guarantee a regular. I can't see why else they would do it. Abroad it is even worse in some countries. In Cyprus the girls just did not want to use condom. They said it irritates them.

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See my post on BB and the rise since October. I completed this study over the past 18 months, but lost the data, these are the Nov. 2010 figures compared with Oct same year:

Total Escorts 22379 -0.24%

Female +0.24%

Male -1.17%

Female A +4.44%

Female BB +.60%

Female cim +2.23%

Female owo +2.93%

Female swallow +3.30%

Male A +166%

Male BB +167%

Male a and BB +97%

Off the top of may head from the figures from the previous 18 months, BB male or female was increasing by about 1% per month. I don't have figures for Males prior to this, but the +100% of males offering BB and A from Ocotober is worrying?

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I do remember hearing some news reports that some people are less concerned about HIV because of they think the drug treatment for AIDS works. Despite the fact it is a nasty combination of drugs that numerous complications, and the fact is that all they do is slow down the disease and aren't a cure.

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See my post on BB and the rise since October. I completed this study over the past 18 months, but lost the data, these are the Nov. 2010 figures compared with Oct same year:

Total Escorts 22379 -0.24%

Female +0.24%

Male -1.17%

Female A +4.44%

Female BB +.60%

Female cim +2.23%

Female owo +2.93%

Female swallow +3.30%

Male A +166%

Male BB +167%

Male a and BB +97%

Off the top of may head from the figures from the previous 18 months, BB male or female was increasing by about 1% per month. I don't have figures for Males prior to this, but the +100% of males offering BB and A from Ocotober is worrying?

Where are you getting these figures

Please dont tell me from the site everyone slags off and girls dont reply and rip off merchants and scams come from.

BB is a default setting btw which makes any completed study over the past 18 months with or without but lost the data useless.

Any script with a default is pointless. Inaccurate and to be blunt the data you lost have the same accuracy as the data your posting.

NEXT :rolleyes:

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