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Not sure if other girls have had this problem as I have never seen a post for it before.

I know many girls leave condoms in the room, I had a guy once that told me that he used to prick a hole in the condom after paying the girl and she had left the room. The result usually meant the condom would split at the top through weakness. I suggested to him that it was not a nice thing to do but he did not seem bothered.

I dislike arrogance in a man, who thinks that if he is paying you he can do what he wants rather than what you are happy with.

Sarah

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Not sure if other girls have had this problem as I have never seen a post for it before.

I know many girls leave condoms in the room, I had a guy once that told me that he used to prick a hole in the condom after paying the girl and she had left the room. The result usually meant the condom would split at the top through weakness. I suggested to him that it was not a nice thing to do but he did not seem bothered.

I dislike arrogance in a man, who thinks that if he is paying you he can do what he wants rather than what you are happy with.

Sarah

Hi Sarah,

Welcome to Punternet. I have moved this post from 'Dangerous Punter Warnings' as we use that section for specific warnings about dangerous individuals, rather than general warnings about dangerous practices. Thankyou for contributing a useful post, however.

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Not sure if other girls have had this problem as I have never seen a post for it before.

I know many girls leave condoms in the room, I had a guy once that told me that he used to prick a hole in the condom after paying the girl and she had left the room. The result usually meant the condom would split at the top through weakness. I suggested to him that it was not a nice thing to do but he did not seem bothered.

I dislike arrogance in a man, who thinks that if he is paying you he can do what he wants rather than what you are happy with.

Sarah

I just wonder (it is, for me, rather early, and my brain hasn't fully booted) whether this couldn't amount to rape? She consents to covered penetration. He sabotages the cover, without her knowlege, so that he gets BB.

Of course the Polis/CPS would never prosecute, but assuming there was credible evidence, would be pin-prick void the consent?

Certainly well worth frightening any punter who tries such an evil, and dangerous, trick, with the threat of a rape charge.

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This sounds like a form of assualt to me, sexual or physical ( think spitting being assault) I would report it to the police without a second thought.

Certain precautions are our (the escort) responsibility though.

Always supply and buy the best condoms available. Keep them wrapped and out sight until needed. Theyre not the most erotic of things - unless youre a bit taken with them!

Never accept wine or drinks in general or indeed food from your host unless you trust them implicitly. I supply the wine and the glasses when I visit a date for the first time, just in case one slips through my radar! ( every little helps)

I've said time and again. Our security and our safety is our own responsibility. There is no-one there to help us when we are in a strangers house or hotel room naked and alone.

You have to be clever every time with your security. The crackpots only have to be clever once. Luckily real loons are few and far between and with experience its easy to spot a potential problem and refuse to date them in the first place!.

B TW any loons looking in there is a lot more to security than hiding condoms! You don't really think we let you know every way we protect ourselves ;)

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Absolute disgrace, he should be named and shamed if true

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I saw this on a tv show once, and it instantly had my attention. So being the kind of girl I am, I tested the theory ( all in the name of science :-)). I tested it with 3 different width pins, and the results were conclusive. The foil wrapper will always show signs of damage, and it only takes a moment to check.

If you're brand of choice are vacuum packed, the vacuum will be broken. If not, simply squeeze the packet to check that the air pocket is intact.

The guy in questions sounds like an absolute idiot. Unfortunately, he seems to thrive on power/fear, and I'm certain he wouldn't have confessed to this prior to a sexual encounter. Its purpose was probably designed to send you wild with worry, and therefore increase his power over you.

The simple solution is to keep your 'bag of tricks' with you. And don't leave the customer alone- if they are paying for your time, ensure that they get it :-)

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I agree, surely thats a form of rape or non-consensual unprotected sex.

What confuses me is, what is the point? How would it feel better with a hole in the condom?

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I just wonder (it is, for me, rather early, and my brain hasn't fully booted) whether this couldn't amount to rape? She consents to covered penetration. He sabotages the cover, without her knowlege, so that he gets BB.

Of course the Polis/CPS would never prosecute, but assuming there was credible evidence, would be pin-prick void the consent?

Certainly well worth frightening any punter who tries such an evil, and dangerous, trick, with the threat of a rape charge.

No - we've had this conversation on here a few times and rape is penetration without consent - consent cannot be conditional and it cannot be withdrawn later (obviously you can withdraw it DURING the sex act just in case anyone misunderstands me). There may be something he could be charged with - but I doubt it would amount to much. Even a person who intentionally has unprotected sex knowing he or she has HIV is only charged with attempted GBH (or actual GBH if they pass it on). So assuming the person who tampers with the condom was clean of infections any charge is going to be fairly minor....that's if you can think of anything at all.

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What confuses me is, what is the point? How would it feel better with a hole in the condom?

A condom with a small hole, will quickly split open, then ride up your cock. In effect, it will be BB.

It's a totally evil thing to try and do.

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A condom with a small hole, will quickly split open, then ride up your cock. In effect, it will be BB.

It's a totally evil thing to try and do.

Although, unless I have misread or misinterpreted the OP's profile on her page, I believe that this is not an issue for her as she offers BB anyway. I am quite prepared to be corrected on this.

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Although, unless I have misread or misinterpreted the OP's profile on her page, I believe that this is not an issue for her as she offers BB anyway. I am quite prepared to be corrected on this.

That is correct.

HOWEVER:

Since this post is aimed at preventing those who DON'T wish to be tricked into providing BB from being conned, the OP's personal preference is irrelevant.

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No - we've had this conversation on here a few times and rape is penetration without consent - consent cannot be conditional and it cannot be withdrawn later (obviously you can withdraw it DURING the sex act just in case anyone misunderstands me).

Hmmm! An old man doesn't remember our previous conversation! But I do remember Collins! In that case she, having, while fairly "merry", noticed a male in a state of sexual excitement on her window-sill, consented to being (immediately) penetrated by her boyfriend with whom, I think their JA-ships remarked, she was on terms of sexual familiarity, but not to being had by Collins, who had kept his socks on, on which their Lordships declined to comment.

Oddly Collins was charged with burglary, gaining the dictum that one may trespass with a part of one's body far more private than one's foot, but I think the decision applies to rape, even new-style HH 2003 rape.

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Absolute disgrace, he should be named and shamed if true

I agree, Health and Safety violation and it might be my health! !

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At times I really wonder what motivates people to be so evil.

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That is correct.

HOWEVER:

Since this post is aimed at preventing those who DON'T wish to be tricked into providing BB from being conned, the OP's personal preference is irrelevant.

Just to add to Claire's post, Punternet does not condone bareback sex..

Discussion of the above is off-topic on this forum and so not allowed.

The OP has raised a relevant and important issue of which service providers and their clients ought to be made

aware.

I request that posters stick to the topic which was originally raised when replying to this thread.

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Hmmm! An old man doesn't remember our previous conversation! But I do remember Collins! In that case she, having, while fairly "merry", noticed a male in a state of sexual excitement on her window-sill, consented to being (immediately) penetrated by her boyfriend with whom, I think their JA-ships remarked, she was on terms of sexual familiarity, but not to being had by Collins, who had kept his socks on, on which their Lordships declined to comment.

Oddly Collins was charged with burglary, gaining the dictum that one may trespass with a part of one's body far more private than one's foot, but I think the decision applies to rape, even new-style HH 2003 rape.

R v Collins [1972] is a very interesting case. When you read a Court of Appeal judge saying that: "This is as about as a extraordinary case as my brethren and I have ever heard ..." - then you know that it does merit reading further.

http://uce2003els.studio400.me.uk/R-v-Collins_1972.PDF

As regards impersonation of a boyfriend to gain sexual favours, section 78(2) SOA2003 provides that where the defendant intentionally induced the complainant to consent to the relevant act by impersonating a person known personally to the complainant it is to be conclusively presumed that the complainant did not consent to the relevant act.

Sticking to the topic, tampering with condoms is a very nasty thing to do. I have to say that I have been in many parlours where the packets of condoms were in a bowl or on a side-table where there was ample opportunity to tamper with them whilst the girl was out of the room.

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Just to add to Claire's post, Punternet does not condone bareback sex..

Discussion of the above is off-topic on this forum and so not allowed.

The OP has raised a relevant and important issue of which service providers and their clients ought to be made

aware.

I request that posters stick to the topic which was originally raised when replying to this thread.

Then shouldnt this post be in the warning forum. Maybe we should have his name/number too so we can avoid him. Otherwise whats the point of the warning in the first place.

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Then shouldnt this post be in the warning forum. Maybe we should have his name/number too so we can avoid him. Otherwise whats the point of the warning in the first place.

If the OP can furnish us with further details of the man who told her of this practice then it should go up as a

warning, absolutely.

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I did not quite understand, how could the guy prick the condom. Usually the girl supplies condom and 99% times she puts it on, so there is no room for guy to temper. If she has to go out, she must replace condom on arrival.

It is not pricking but other thing which I learned from a WG. She told that some times some guys remove the condom in between session and ask girl for OWO. Later when trying to reuse the condom invert it by mistake and so all girls fuild are inside with the guys dick and all guys fuile are on outside. This can surely cause a lot of infections. So she told me that she always throws condom if it is removed inbetween and uses new one. It does not cost too much, atleast in India it is only 1 quid for 20 of them.

Also most girls look for leakages in between penetration every few minutes. Since it is her profession she must ensure no infections pass to each other due to faulty condom. If some guy actually wants to infect the girl and acts tricky, girls must ensure that if found out, they must put him on Ban list and pass it on to all WGs via punternet etc.

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The point was as describe a warning to others on a simple basis as many girls work in different ways. It was a few years ago and the guy in question may or may not be still punting in the area, I cannot really give any further details of him. At the time I did not feel easy with the guy and I do not know if he actually did what he said, I have been told many things over the years and do not know if half are true or just said to try and shock / impress.

I am sure many girls will appreciate, some guys do seem very creepy and total sleaze balls, but in my experience we really are talking about a very small minority.

When I first started working, I also had the misfortune to be robbed. being young and trusting, I used to put the money in the bed side drawer. On getting dressed at the end of the session, with a regular, the guy pushed me on the bed, grabbed the money and fled the flat leaving me in a state of shock but unharmed, it was a lesson learned.

There are very many things that we need to look out for and learn when working. On another post I noticed that a girl wrote that a guy only needs to get away with something once, we need to be on our guard for things all the time. I have heard many stories over the years about girls being ripped off etc and the tricks (some) guys try to pull.

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unfortunately there are many wankers out there that think they have a right to do these awful things :( This then leads to many people who are trustworthy being given the wrong deal and the WG's being on guard all the time :mellow:

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