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Guardian Gives Sex Worker Gives Space to Argue Against Harman

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/17/women.gender?commentpage=1

What's more, the vast majority of comments are fully supportive of her stance.

What would be good if theGuardian physically and actually dun what Himagain used as his subject thread

'Guardian Gives Sex Worker Gives Space to Argue Against Harman, Blindel etc' but face-to face, point for point, for a 12 rounder eliminator for the 'World Title' :P

No but seriously... ;)

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Very well said Lara, I think that sums up an awful lot of us in this industry.

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Absolutely superb - stick that in your pipe and smoke it! :P

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Absolutely Superb. Cut it out, set it in glass, and Frame it.

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Well done Lara. Your article was absolutely superb - though I doubt whether many people will take a lot of notice of it! Why? because most of the public have no idea at all of the service that the majority of escorts provide. They are thought of as something very sleazy when, in fact, the reverse is the case. Escorts have done a great deal for me and the vaste majority are lovely ladies. Due to income problems I only punt approximately once a month but, if I had more money, I would ensure that I did so at least once a week. I just hope that more people support Lara's well written article.

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Superb article, I've known quite a few women who've taken her level headed view of the industry, especially the one about wanting time with kids while earning good money. The comments are quite interesting, when I looked earlier, mostly supportive, a pity governments, (all of them), look to the short term attention grabbing fix.

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Our researchers contacted only brothels that advertised in local newspapers - not those that advertise on websites or on cards in telephone boxes. Because of this we only uncovered the tiniest corner of the trade. But we still encountered brothels in every London borough, with Enfield (a typical residential area of north London) having a minimum of 54, and Westminster at least 71. We estimated that the brothels we surveyed made anything from £86m to £209.5m in total per year through newspaper advertisements alone.

Although it is a criminal offence to advertise prostitution services, the law is not enforced, and this "blind eye" approach serves the pimps and punters well.

Well that's a new one on me.

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when you see harman trounced on Question Time last evening, I domnt see her as a threat anymore.

Wonder what they will put in the queens speech?

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when you see harman trounced on Question Time last evening, I domnt see her as a threat anymore.

Wonder what they will put in the queens speech?

Yes she did look a tad uncomfortable, true politician never gave a straight answer to any question, dont you just love them. :P:eek:

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Jesus suffering f*ck, that's the most one-sided, biased and blatently misleading article I've ever read. She states that most people in the Mori poll back criminalisation, which is a lie. 59% were against it. The question that got support had the caveat that it would help end trafficking. Also using a girl who entered prostitution at 15 is clearly never going to give a balanced opinion. And still she thinks that ringing brothels tells you anything about what goes on. They only offered "very, very young girls" because her researchers were primed to ASK for 16 year olds. No surprise that some parlours tried to suggest there might be some.

Quote from the article:

Alice brought it home to us just how accepted and normalised prostitution has

become. "You sit in a basque, in a window with your red light on. When you get a client you close your curtains and turn your red light off. That starts from eight in the morning."

I have never in all my life heard of that happening in England. Amsterdam, Yes and probably a few other places but not here. Soho is the most open place where prostitutes work from in this country and there's nothing like that. Maybe years and years ago but certainly not recently.

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Well that's a new one on me.

And a new one on me too. (I have pointed out this fallacy)

Have pitched an article to a broadsheet, only to met with: 'It's too controversial'

Well, if that is not censorship, i do not know what IS!!!!

L

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Well, The Guardian closed the debating thread pretty much bang on time, with 1,007 comments posted below the line.

Although the abolitionists, moralists & RadFems tried to claim otherwise, the overwhelming majority of posts were pro the author & anti-criminialisation. In fact, even one or tow of those who had initially favoured criminalisation of punters came round to discussing practicalities of legalised brothels; largely I believe as a result of the posting of The Times article relating to the proposed adoption of THe Finnish Model.

Needless to say, we can expect a stream of pro-criminalisation articles from this paper now; after all, Julie Bindel, who didn't join in the debate, despite having been challenged to do so, works for them.

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Jesus suffering f*ck, that's the most one-sided, biased and blatently misleading article I've ever read

Ah, you've not encountered Ms Bindel's work before?

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Reading both accounts, the issue is wholly about trafficking. Nothing more, nothing less.

It's just that the issue has collected baggage on the way, and Labour see the chance for a crusade led by Ms Harman on behalf of ALL women, to clear the streets of whore and brothels and so the saviour of our morals.

The next election cant come quick enough.

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