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I'm realise it is quite common for many of the girls in the industry to be on anti depressants, I know two girls personally who are popping the pills on a constant basis.

I'm not really up to scratch on the implications and so if anyone who has had first or second hand experience of depression and can give your account of how it can affect your everyday life, your sexual stimulus and your frame of mind that would be great.

The side effects of taking them are obviously not good and can lead to a lot of emotional distress so I'm hoping someone out there has conquered their depression and has stopped taking the pills can give some advice I can hopefully pass on. I know some will say "See a shrink, its all in the mind", but fact of the matter is that it really is not that simple.

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Depression effects people from all walks of life from paupers to millionaires,is triggered by actual or perceived factors, can be from mild to manic and is different in every person.

What I am trying to say is that there is no reason to assume it is more prevalent in the sex industry and depression IS in the mind and the only thing you can do to help your friends is to encourage them to start tackling it by visiting their GP. It is too serious to to play amateur Freud with.

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People can lead great lives and still get depressed! This is because it can be caused by an imbalance in brain chemistry, antidpresent drugs can put things back on an even keel, but can also cause side-effects. It can be very wrong to look at someone who is suffering depression and think that it's being caused by their life style.

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Depression effects people from all walks of life from paupers to millionaires,is triggered by actual or perceived factors, can be from mild to manic and is different in every person.

What I am trying to say is that there is no reason to assume it is more prevalent in the sex industry and depression IS in the mind and the only thing you can do to help your friends is to encourage them to start tackling it by visiting their GP. It is too serious to to play amateur Freud with.

LF

Also can be hereditary

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I'm realise it is quite common for many of the girls in the industry to be on anti depressants, I know two girls personally who are popping the pills on a constant basis.

I'm not really up to scratch on the implications and so if anyone who has had first or second hand experience of depression and can give your account of how it can affect your everyday life, your sexual stimulus and your frame of mind that would be great.

The side effects of taking them are obviously not good and can lead to a lot of emotional distress so I'm hoping someone out there has conquered their depression and has stopped taking the pills can give some advice I can hopefully pass on. I know some will say "See a shrink, its all in the mind", but fact of the matter is that it really is not that simple.

Do you realise how dangerous that is, you come onto a forum and ask advice from strangers and are going to go back and pass on information about stopping!!

Some people just need AD's to help them over a rough period, some need them for the rest of their lives, it is VERY VERY dangerous to encourage someone to stop taking them, the ONLY person that should be doing that is the GP that prescribed them in the first place, they have to remember that if they are feeling good it is most likely BECAUSE of the medication they are on, and to stop taking it can cause a dive which can be FATAL.

Bloody armchair psychiatrists!

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Overprescribing Antidepressants

Millions of patients 'should not be prescribed antidepressants'

I've suffered from depression in the past caused by occupational stress and over work, the solution for me was to become aware of what was happening and fix the underlying cause. In both cases that meant I quit working for crap employers, not taking pills.

If these girls are taking Antidepressants because they are psychologically ill-suited to be escorts they need to quit.

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Do you realise how dangerous that is, you come onto a forum and ask advice from strangers and are going to go back and pass on information about stopping!!

Some people just need AD's to help them over a rough period, some need them for the rest of their lives, it is VERY VERY dangerous to encourage someone to stop taking them, the ONLY person that should be doing that is the GP that prescribed them in the first place, they have to remember that if they are feeling good it is most likely BECAUSE of the medication they are on, and to stop taking it can cause a dive which can be FATAL.

Bloody armchair psychiatrists!

Well said Sabrina, nobody should stop taking any medication unless under medical supervision.

As for depression being all in the mind, it can be caused by physical changes within the body. I, for instance, have Pancreatic Cancer which causes depression due to the chemical changes caused by the tumour in my Pancreas.So there is no way I could stop my medication.

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Well said sabrina and Romulus2.

What about post natal depression aka baby blues is that all in the mind. There is a lot of resaons that cause this type of depression and alot of people don't realise that when a woman has a baby not only does her life change but her way of thinking, having to think for everyone instead of herself. The line of need is now baby partner/husband, everyones else then herself. her body changes and all her life goes out of the window along with her body.... Men they just have a son and daughter and can carry on as normal....

Don't try and comment on something you don't know or understand about, no-one knows until they have been there :(

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OK envy

I dont know who you think you are,

Ive been on ssri tablets for 10 yrs & now have had to move to different ADs, yes some do have horrid side effects, the ones im now on are better for me as you probably dont know that most ssri tablets can lower seizure thresholds in things like the epilepsy that i also have to live with.

around 4 yrs ago a friend came to visit me & caught me with a cocktail of 200 mixed pills & a litre of whisky in my hands, if it werent for her i wouldnt be here now, for the next 3 months i had to get my meds on a daily basis from my gp.

Depression affects different people in many different ways, no 2 cases are the same (my gp talking).

I totaly agree with Sabrina, romulus & Escort bunny.

Ther effects of depression can be either very mild or life threatening as in my personal experience, the pills themselves can have dramatic side effects.

On no condition should some one on prescribed tablets change their doses without medical supervision.

Thats my rant over Thank you BA

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I'm realise it is quite common for many of the girls in the industry to be on anti depressants,

Is it? Or is it quite common for people in all industries to be on anti-depressants? If your friends in this industry are taking anti-depressants because of this job, then it is time for them to get out.

As for stopping taking them, I would in the past like everybody else said, do it via the GP, if it was not for a very sad story of a very close friend (nanny, not escort). She was on 40mg of Seroxat a day (double the average dose) and had been for over two years. She was getting worse with her emotions/down periods and went to the doctors. The doctor told her to stop the Seroxat there and then and put her onto another anti-depressant. Two weeks later she killed herself. I had never seen her in such a bad state after she stopped the Seroxat like that and I was worried sick telling her that the doctor had made a mistake and begged her to go back to the doctor or take me with her. You cannot come off such a high dose in one go as the new one needs to kick in.

If somebody needs to come off the anti-depressants it needs to be done very slowly and then monitoring the moods as they come off.

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Is it? Or is it quite common for people in all industries to be on anti-depressants? If your friends in this industry are taking anti-depressants because of this job, then it is time for them to get out.

As for stopping taking them, I would in the past like everybody else said, do it via the GP, if it was not for a very sad story of a very close friend (nanny, not escort). She was on 40mg of Seroxat a day (double the average dose) and had been for over two years. She was getting worse with her emotions/down periods and went to the doctors. The doctor told her to stop the Seroxat there and then and put her onto another anti-depressant. Two weeks later she killed herself. I had never seen her in such a bad state after she stopped the Seroxat like that and I was worried sick telling her that the doctor had made a mistake and begged her to go back to the doctor or take me with her. You cannot come off such a high dose in one go as the new one needs to kick in.

If somebody needs to come off the anti-depressants it needs to be done very slowly and then monitoring the moods as they come off.

I totaly agree with you pia, changing of meds & doseages need strict suppervision. so sorry of what happened to your friend.

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nothing new, and certainly not only related to prostitution.

Mother's Little Helper(Jagger/Richards)

What a drag it is getting old

"Kids are different today,"

I hear ev'ry mother say

Mother needs something today to calm her down

And though she's not really ill

There's a little yellow pill

She goes running for the shelter of a mother's little helper

And it helps her on her way, gets her through her busy day

"Things are different today,"

I hear ev'ry mother say

Cooking fresh food for a husband's just a drag

So she buys an instant cake and she burns her frozen steak

And goes running for the shelter of a mother's little helper

And two help her on her way, get her through her busy day

Doctor please, some more of these

Outside the door, she took four more

What a drag it is getting old

"Men just aren't the same today"

I hear ev'ry mother say

They just don't appreciate that you get tired

They're so hard to satisfy, You can tranquilize your mind

So go running for the shelter of a mother's little helper

And four help you through the night, help to minimize your plight

Doctor please, some more of these

Outside the door, she took four more

What a drag it is getting old

"Life's just much too hard today,"

I hear ev'ry mother say

The pusuit of happiness just seems a bore

And if you take more of those, you will get an overdose

No more running for the shelter of a mother's little helper

They just helped you on your way, through your busy dying day

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I can only echo the above with regards to medication advice. Depression is very serious and unless you are qualified to advise on medication then don't. The potential concequences do not bear thinking about. One day my sister (manic depressive) decided she didn't fancy carrying on and took an overdose. Thankfully she survived but that all happened when she was on the gear. Just be mindful that that is what your are potentially dealing with.

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Thanks for the info guys (even those who are getting their knickers in a twist). I didn't intend to make any opinionated comments, obviously I am no qualified specialist in this field, but I am looking to find out a little more about something that is affecting the frame of mind of these individuals and how others are dealing with it in the short and long term.

For instance once they take the antidepressants they have an elevated energy level but all of a sudden the mood can take a dramatic turn where they begin to feel agitated and restless. Once they begin taking the meds would they have to be closely moniotored at regular intervals and how would a doctor know if the individual is back to any kind of normality? Or is it a condition that can easily comeback a few months or years later factoring in a number of circumstances?

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For instance once they take the antidepressants they have an elevated energy level but all of a sudden the mood can take a dramatic turn where they begin to feel agitated and restless. Once they begin taking the meds would they have to be closely moniotored at regular intervals and how would a doctor know if the individual is back to any kind of normality?

Firstly, in any normal circumstances, a course of antidepressants should be viewed as a temporary solution to the problem; ie. there should be a clear plan of how much is going to be taken, and for how long, before the situation is monitored. When the dosage is reduced, it has to be done so steadily, and over a significant period of time. A course of antidepressants should never be prescribed without the doctor speaking to the patient at regular intervals, to monitor their state of mind and mood.

This raises the key question of how depression is diagnosed. I would like to know what kind of discussion the individual involved had with the doctor, what issues she discussed and didn't discuss, and whether she excluded any critical information from this discussion. While there is no doubt that depression is a very real condition, I think too often people are diagnosed as being depressed, when what they actually are is miserable. Sometimes they are miserable for perfectly objective reasons, and feeling miserable is the only natural reaction to their circumstances. This may not be the case at all with this particular individual, but I have certainly heard of many instances where people are diagnosed as being depressed and medicated rather rashly; which is understandable given the immense pressure many GPs find themselves under.

Or is it a condition that can easily comeback a few months or years later factoring in a number of circumstances?
It would be dependant upon what her precise condition is. To give a simplistic explanation, there is a strong presumed link between serotonin levels in the brain and depression, and well-known antidepressant drugs, such as Prozac, are intended to address this. The short answer is that if there is a deep-rooted biological basis for your depression, then it can easily return, in fact it probably will.

But, anyway, you should never just stop taking antidepressant drugs overnight, they should always be phased out under professional supervision.

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But, anyway, you should never just stop taking antidepressant drugs overnight, they should always be phased out under professional supervision.

I have been on antidepressants on 2 occasions, and what you have just said is so completely true. The first time I stopped taking them, I did the stupid thing and just stopped taking them. The complete nightmare that followed I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. The second time I did it was under supervision, and trust me, from my experience it needs to be done that way.

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For instance once they take the antidepressants they have an elevated energy level but all of a sudden the mood can take a dramatic turn where they begin to feel agitated and restless

I was prescribed citalopram to help treat PTSD and it does anything but elevate your energy levels. I was a walking zombie for six months or so and if anything it made me feel worse.

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I was prescribed citalopram to help treat PTSD and it does anything but elevate your energy levels. I was a walking zombie for six months or so and if anything it made me feel worse.

If you think that's bad, I was prescribed Citalopram - which I should never have agreed to take, as I wasn't really suffering from depression at all - and was fortunate enough to be amongst the 6% of people that take it that suffer delayed ejaculation as a side-effect.

http://doublecheckmd.com/EffectsDetail.do?dname=citalopram&sid=13878&eid=2286

Now, it is not that easy for me to ejaculate compared to other men as it is; I often read with envy FR in which guys have cum more than once in an hour, this would be a complete impossibility for me. However, I am accustomed to it taking less than an hour's wanking. Don't think I'm exaggerating, because I'm not. I had a girlfriend at the time, and as for ejaculating during intercourse, forget it! I would have required replacement hip surgery before I managed to ejaculate. Not only that, and I don't mean to conjure up any unpleasant mental images, but the usual volume produced when ejaculating decreased considerably, I would estimate by about 90-95%.

Anyway, the moral of the story is...ALWAYS find out what potential side-effects of medication are, before you agree to take them. About two years ago I had a minor stomach operation, and the pre-op doctor must have thought I was completely mental, because I spent 20 minutes relentlessly quizzing her. But there was a reason for that - once bitten, twice shy.

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If you think that's bad, I was prescribed Citalopram - which I should never have agreed to take, as I wasn't really suffering from depression at all - and was fortunate enough to be amongst the 6% of people that take it that suffer delayed ejaculation as a side-effect.

Now, it is not that easy for me to ejaculate compared to other men as it is; I often read with envy FR in which guys have cum more than once in an hour, this would be a complete impossibility for me. However, I am accustomed to it taking less than an hour's wanking. Don't think I'm exaggerating, because I'm not. I had a girlfriend at the time, and as for ejaculating during intercourse, forget it! I would have required replacement hip surgery before I managed to ejaculate. Not only that, and I don't mean to conjure up any unpleasant mental images, but the usual volume produced when ejaculating decreased considerably, I would estimate by about 90-95%.

Yes, the same happened to me but all returned to normal soon after I got down to 10mg and eventually off it. I was not aware of the side effects and annoyingly was not advised prior to them being prescribed. It's a double edged sword, in that they keep you on a level path, but it's not what I would describe as a normal path.

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