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Money Stolen From Wg. Police Or Not?

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I'm not sure where to put this but this seems a good starting point.

I met a WG who told me she'd had money stolen from her hotel room by a punter. It was clearly a set up with one of the hotel staff involved. The matter was reported to the hotel but they have taken no action or interest.

She is frightened to go to the police because she is concerned that they will start asking questions about tax. She has only been in the UK a few weeks, is an EU citizen, and was working for an agency. My understanding is that the police will not be concerned over the tax aspect and the matter should be reported. I don't think how she earned the money is relevant either as it's not an amount that would arouse suspicions of money laundering or crime - a few hundred pounds.

Thanks for any opinions or views.

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I share your opinion that the police will have zero interest in her tax affairs, their interest will be in

the crime committed. I have had to involve the police in the past and have always found them to be very

supportive, irrespective of what I do for a living.

Theft is against the law, end of. She should report it imho.

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Like most hotels they couldnt give a f**k :angry:

Pinch something of theirs and they'll take it seriously though!!!!

Report it to the police.

If a hairdresser had her money swiped the cops would investigate so the fact that she's a WG doesnt matter at all.

Theft is theft!

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I wouldnt have thought it was worth the hassle as the police wont be able to get it her back and most likely she doesnt have any insurance for this kind of thing. If anything the police could find out what she was doing there,

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I disagree completely.

Theft is still theft and the police must be informed they wont be too bothered about how she made her money or tax implications, they are certainly not going to pass it onto Vice or HMRC.

If it is not reported then it did,nt happen, simple as that.

Tell the police, after asking about the theft they will then make enquires with the hotel,there may be witnesses or CCTV of the hotel floor/foyer, who knows they may get a lead especially if one of the staff is involved.

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The police should be informed they cant be allowed to get away with it otherwise this type of thing will keep happening. Guys will think a wg is an easy target and in actual fact if more girls called the police when these kind of things happened they will think twice about doing it.

I wouldn't hesitate to call them if it were me.

Shelly

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I'd agree about writing about the hotel on a review website, as if they don't appear to take all thefts seriously, it will do their reputation no good. Whether to go to the police depends probably on the area- police forces seem to vary in their attitude to WGs.

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Theft is theft is theft... many people have raised good points, but it is very unlikely that anything good will happen for the girl if the police manage/can be bothered to charge the wrong do'ers. What's the best that can happen for her? She gets a few hundred pounds back and maybe an apology. The potential downsides simply aren't worth it. A lot of lost time and stress, plus being known as an escort to the police, and (regardless of what is being said here), having her details passed on to HMRC, despite possibly not doing anything wrong.

Any details on how the hotel was involved?

Edited by SoapyTitWank

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Mixed feelings about this one. Yes theft is theft and should be reported. but then isn't working in this country and not paying tax a sort of theft and wrong too?

Best point her towards www.saafe.com so that she can work not only as safely as she can but also legally.

Holly

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A self employed person has three months from commencing trading to notify HMRC that they are trading, failure to do this can result in a fine of £100 but in the 11 years since that rule came in I haven't seen anyone fined as they are glad you have registered.

If she didn't start working in this country until after 6 April 2010, she would have until 31 January 2012 before she would have to file her tax return. Before that date she would have until 31 January 2011 to get her affairs in order.

Tax isn't an issue.

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Thank you for all your replies. I can see that there is no issue as far as tax is concerned, for the record I verified this with an accountant who happens to be a personal friend.

She is embarassed about the while thing and wants to put it behind her, I've tried to convince her, as others have said, that this is exactly how crime flourishes.

I now have to continue to encourage her to report the matter but given the passsage of time since the occurrence she feels there is no hope of getting the money back, in my view that is not really the point.

How was the hotel involved? Apparently she got a call from a punter who said he was downstairs in reception and could she go down to meet him to avoid embarassment if he got to the room and for some reason they didn't like the look of each other. She went down and there was no punter, and in the 3 minutes that elapsed before she got back to her room, someone had been in there and gone through her possessions. Clearly the room was watched and the admission was by key card.

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Thank you for all your replies. I can see that there is no issue as far as tax is concerned, for the record I verified this with an accountant who happens to be a personal friend.

She is embarassed about the while thing and wants to put it behind her, I've tried to convince her, as others have said, that this is exactly how crime flourishes.

Clearly the room was watched and the admission was by key card.

So this wasn't a WG-specific crime, but carefully planned theft by hotel-employee and, (maybe) another person? I take it that she didn't actually meet the supposed punter, so that, like as not, he didn't exist? Hotel staff member is confident that she won't complain, because she is a "naughty girl"?

Please tell her that she will use other hotels in the future, and if this sort of ploy works, it'll spread.

As Laura, correctly in my respectful opinion, says, theft is theft! In the old law this would, I think, have been "larceny as a servant" which was viewed very seriously.

Police!

Police!

Police!

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How was the hotel involved? Apparently she got a call from a punter who said he was downstairs in reception and could she go down to meet him to avoid embarassment if he got to the room and for some reason they didn't like the look of each other. She went down and there was no punter, and in the 3 minutes that elapsed before she got back to her room, someone had been in there and gone through her possessions. Clearly the room was watched and the admission was by key card.

Many good replies and yes theft is theft, but look at an earlier post of mine and I was robbed myself but did not report it. There are many things to consider before reporting a crime such as this.

The theft happened whilst you were not in the room, no proof of a theft apart from your word - I work from hotels and never go to meet with anybody, they come to my door. If I worked in a flat, would I go down the street to meet a guy? No

Be careful where you hide your money, would you on holiday go out of your hotel room and leave money there? I suggest that the girls gets a street wise lesson. These things will happen, learn to reduce the risk. This is a sneak thief and you do not even know who it was. I would be interested to know how a member of staff knew that the girl was working from the hotel, discretion is the key.

On reporting the incident to the police you get to be known as working as an escort, is it worth it for a couple of hundred pounds? Computers never forget and it could come back to haunt you in later life. But then, if you were robbed in such a situation, why is the fact that you were working as an escort relevant? Why could you just not say that you were staying at the hotel and went down to the bar?

Many things to be considered.......

Sarah x x

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I must admit that some women are pretty naive. I have seen it many many times - puts money in purse, then goes for a shower after the event. Does not even check again whether the money is there after her shower, leaves the room. Once she even forgot the cash and came back 5 minutes later.

At the end of the day it if your responsibility to look after your money. There is obviously a big difference in being mugged for money and being careless and effectively losing it.

She should have used the safe, provided by most decent hotels. And if it didnt have a safe, should think twice about skimping on £20 extra for a decent hotel.

I dont think it should be reported, waste of tax payers money to investigate. She should learn to be less careless in the future. Not going to get the money back.

I never leave my laptop, credit cards or keys in without using a safe when I leave the hotel room, that is what it is their for.

Maybe email the hotel directly to let them know an employee was involved in the theft giving exact timings and explaining that you cant be bothered to report it. They will for sure investigate it internally much more thorough than the police would. Depending on the hotel, they will also have a complete record of other incidents and what members were on duty at that time. You wont get the money back, but may get the employee sacked.

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I now have reason to believe that the person for whom she was 'working' may have been involved in setting this up. He conned her out of money and is now not answering her messages. What a scumbag.

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