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Just had a session with a gorgeous Lithuanian girl, very tall, very blonde, fabulous figure, great blowjob to cim twice (amazingly).

But so utterly soul destroying, so mechanical, so formulaic, no emotion whatsoever and its the last bit I actually want. But that doesn't come through punting does it - it only really comes in proper relationships, so I think this might be the time to knock it on the head. Its been fun talking to you all and I've met a few really nice ladies though this site but, ultimately, it ain't getting me anywhere. So, Happy Christmas to you all. I might pop in from time to time to see whats going on but I think me and paid for sex have come to the parting of the way.

There is a file review if you want the gory details.

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There is a file review if you want the gory details - no there isn't as I never did get a password and login so.

Lisa - Hot Collection. Her place in Lisson Grove and very nice too. Incall for 90 minutes @£200.00. Body to die for if you like them tall and lean which I do - with heels on about 6'. Blonde naturally with a little landing strip. Great hair, lovely face and very expressive eyes. Good English too once you get round the accent and interesting to talk to - we discussed Russian Orthodoxy...

Very aggressive sexually and wanted to be in charge which she was. Great owo - very sloppy and wet and hot - and impressive use of toys while standing over me and doing same. Good at shagging to with lots of strength and energy. Would probably suit a younger man looking to shag a model. Didn't suit me to be honest. As above. Ultimately, soul-less.

Adios amigos.

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I guess it's all down to research and what you want - do you want a f*ck or a GFE?

If the latter then there ARE a number of great service providers out there that do put a lot of effort in to make you feel special - you just need to spend some time hunting them out and putting in the manhours on research.

If the former then you're right - there are plenty of soulless girls out there going through the motions - sadly this has increased more and more as the number of economic migrants into the UK increases. But some people just want to get laid and if the girls' pretty enough then who cares about her attitude as long as you get a 'trophy f*ck'

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There is a file review if you want the gory details - no there isn't as I never did get a password and login so.

Lisa - Hot Collection. Her place in Lisson Grove and very nice too. Incall for 90 minutes @£200.00. Body to die for if you like them tall and lean which I do - with heels on about 6'. Blonde naturally with a little landing strip. Great hair, lovely face and very expressive eyes. Good English too once you get round the accent and interesting to talk to - we discussed Russian Orthodoxy...

Very aggressive sexually and wanted to be in charge which she was. Great owo - very sloppy and wet and hot - and impressive use of toys while standing over me and doing same. Good at shagging to with lots of strength and energy. Would probably suit a younger man looking to shag a model. Didn't suit me to be honest. As above. Ultimately, soul-less.

Adios amigos.

Thanks for posting the review. That agency (Hot Collection) are black-listed so you wouldn't have been able to post it anyway. I think I might give that girl a go myself after what you described.

As for wanting a proper relationship, then you're right to knock this on the head.

Good luck but I do however believe you'll be back. :-)

Funny enough, I like the non-committment aspect to all of this. The excitement of screwing beautiful women I don't know and who do things that some girls in a relationship wouldn't. I guess I'm a lot more shallow than you :-)

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But so utterly soul destroying, so mechanical, so formulaic, no emotion whatsoever and its the last bit I actually want.

Don't give up on WGs!

I've punted with 12 different girls this year, 4 of them gave me the type of gfe I thought you'd only get in a real relationship. Three of them were first time meets, the other girl took until the fourth visit, to get really sensual and affectionate.

As a punter, if you want this type of service, I feel you need to go very slow at the start, being very affectionate and sensual yourself.

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I have to agree with the above, there are some Wgs who give a GFE. I've also had the mechanical / disinterested type of punt but fortunatley those have been few and far between.

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I've had a really good GFE first time out but in my experience, I would say typically it takes at least of couple of times for a girl to meet you and get more relaxed and comfortable before you truly start approaching a good GFE. To the OP, don't give up, there are lots of ladies who can deliver!

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Adios amigos.

Never say never, just stop punting, see what happens, see how you feel, maybe your life will take off in a different direction, i hope it does; but if it doesnt, and you need to come back, dont be hard on yourself.

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Depending on your personality, telling yourself that your quitting can actually light the blue torch flame as it has with me in the past. By telling myself that i will have a break has actually increased my appetite for rampant sex with WG's. Make all options available and be cool as possible, after all this game is all dictated by finance !

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A topic close to my heart - and close to the quick.

I totally empathise with your sentiments on this, dick78.

My very first punt put me off for a good few months, & I thought that the nay-sayers were right: it's paid-for, they're faking it - and that's that. Soul-destroying, it absolutely was.

The part of me that needed to punt, was the part in turmoil and a state of spiritual loss ( I was fully aware) - the kind of thing others might go back-packing round the world to resolve - or indeed retreat to the mountains and live like a hermit for a while. Things like which I have done - but to no avail.

But then I tried again, and discovered:

1) You don't have to border on either of you falling in love (or whatever), in order for the rapport, chemistry and yes - relationship - to be very real.

2) It's possible to meet the sort of women who are truly 'good for you' - in so many ways - and I mean spiritually.

3) To echo another poster - it certainly is about going to each meeting with a part or parts of you truly 'open' to receiving something special from another human being - this can happen with just kissing, or how you hug - the rest can be icing on that cake.

4) When you've found someone you really click with in this way - it absolutely does 'heal', enthrall the spirit, and take you to somewhere new - internal places which you thought could only be accessed through meditation or years of devotion to God.

Okay - enough - I'm going to get sent bills for keyboards spewed on if I go on any more.

I'll finish by saying - if you have found it soul-destroying - you haven't been looking for long at all. And trust me - such girls are the Holy Grail, and worth all the trials and tribulations inflicted on us by the girls who do it just for the money, to find them (religious connotations fully intended).

"Come back!!" - don't give up, cos to my mind you were looking for the right thing, and when you find it - you'll thank yourself for persevering.

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Just had a session with a gorgeous Lithuanian girl, very tall, very blonde, fabulous figure, great blowjob to cim twice (amazingly).

But so utterly soul destroying, so mechanical, so formulaic, no emotion whatsoever and its the last bit I actually want. But that doesn't come through punting does it - it only really comes in proper relationships, so I think this might be the time to knock it on the head. Its been fun talking to you all and I've met a few really nice ladies though this site but, ultimately, it ain't getting me anywhere. So, Happy Christmas to you all. I might pop in from time to time to see whats going on but I think me and paid for sex have come to the parting of the way.

There is a file review if you want the gory details.

All the best matey, if it is time to move on, it's time to move on, take care ;)) xxx

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A topic close to my heart - and close to the quick.

I totally empathise with your sentiments on this, dick78.

My very first punt put me off for a good few months, & I thought that the nay-sayers were right: it's paid-for, they're faking it - and that's that. Soul-destroying, it absolutely was.

The part of me that needed to punt, was the part in turmoil and a state of spiritual loss ( I was fully aware) - the kind of thing others might go back-packing round the world to resolve - or indeed retreat to the mountains and live like a hermit for a while. Things like which I have done - but to no avail.

But then I tried again, and discovered:

1) You don't have to border on either of you falling in love (or whatever), in order for the rapport, chemistry and yes - relationship - to be very real.

2) It's possible to meet the sort of women who are truly 'good for you' - in so many ways - and I mean spiritually.

3) To echo another poster - it certainly is about going to each meeting with a part or parts of you truly 'open' to receiving something special from another human being - this can happen with just kissing, or how you hug - the rest can be icing on that cake.

4) When you've found someone you really click with in this way - it absolutely does 'heal', enthrall the spirit, and take you to somewhere new - internal places which you thought could only be accessed through meditation or years of devotion to God.

Okay - enough - I'm going to get sent bills for keyboards spewed on if I go on any more.

I'll finish by saying - if you have found it soul-destroying - you haven't been looking for long at all. And trust me - such girls are the Holy Grail, and worth all the trials and tribulations inflicted on us by the girls who do it just for the money, to find them (religious connotations fully intended).

"Come back!!" - don't give up, cos to my mind you were looking for the right thing, and when you find it - you'll thank yourself for persevering.

Or is it simply the case that he has found the courage to do what you know you can't? He is being honest and true to his real feelings about how he feels a sexual union between male and female should be and the only way to get on the straight and narrow is to put the easy-way-out quick fix offered by punting to bed once and for all. Mentally, spiritually and financially he will be better off in the long run and the further behind him this is the easier it will be.

Punting is not for the faint-hearted and not for everyone. Some need to know that the woman he feels, feels for him in a way that is not financially driven and she is not just a good actor, good at her job which is all you describe above and nothing more however you dress it up.

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But so utterly soul destroying, so mechanical, so formulaic, no emotion whatsoever and its the last bit I actually want.

You won't ever get a mutual emotional connection while you are paying for it. You may get something good but you're still paying for it. Know what you want and try and understand what it is that prevents you from finding what it is you want. Be very critical of yourself and even ask those close to you. Gradually rectify/adapt but most important of all be patient. In the meantime have a punt, enjoy the sex but always focus on what is more important to you. This time last year I was of the same mindset but trust me there is light at the end of the tunnel. Good luck with that.

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This is a very interesting topic. From my side of the fence and dealing with a fair amount of newbies, I have found that the majority have got a stereotypical view of working girls before meeting me. They expect it to lack heart completely, be sexy but as you describe 'mechanical'. It is only after spending time with me this strange look comes over their face and often I will hear expressed how surprised they are of the actual experience and they are shocked that I am an escort at all.

Escorts are people. We are of the fairer sex and are emotional creatures. We also respond to the way we are treated. If I'm working with someone who kisses tenderly or passionately then I will respond in the same way, it's natural to do so.

Admittedly the most punters I have ever seen in one day is 4, but surprisingly it didn't make any difference to each experience. I didn't find myself getting bored or less interested in each case and if anything I was more relaxed after each client and able to continue with greater ease.

Having said that, it can be counter productive to be too 'nice' or too 'attentive' with a client. I met one great guy in Oxford, great kisser and the whole booking was very sensual. We discussed another booking when he turned round and said he couldn't do it. That he had realised from our experience that he really wanted a gf and someone he can care for and if he continued seeing me he would fall in love. I have to admit I was a bit surprised, but our experience must have just tipped the scale. Experiencing some tenderness and laughter must have made him realise that he wanted that more than he wanted the sex.

In contrast another client has told me that our encounters has given him the confidence to see women for the first time in years.

So... I think in some cases you will have your own expectations of what you can get from your punting, in others it will be more about your state of mind and where you are in life at the moment. Some punters don't want to get emotional or have feelings, as they have enough to cope with in life already and others crave it after being single for some time or in a relationship that no longer offers it. Similaly with escorts, some will use their escorting as their sex life and put the same energy into it as if they were with a real partner, where others may simply see it as a means to an end, while others don't need the sex, but are professional and want to provide the service you want and are able to tap into that.

There are so many variables while dealing with 'humans' it is almost impossible to know what kind of punt you will get, but... isn't that half the fun? When it stops being fun, it is time to stop!

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I don't see that wanting to pay a WG for loving sex is any different from wanting a pse. Both are fantasies and as human beings we fantasise all the time! We become engrossed in literature or a movie and feel emontional attachment to the characters. So if you want to fantasise that you are with a lover, when you are with a WG, I don't see anything wrong.

Seeing WGs and wanting a non-paid for relationship is not an either or! You can have some paid fun/luv whilst you are waiting for the girl of your dreams to come along.

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Pretty much how I'm feeling right now. Met a WG (very very new to the game and not enjoying it at all). She poured out her heart to me and we spent most of the time talking and cuddling and crying (you can see where this is going ....). She came to see me privately two days later and we spent a lovely morning together, no sex, just cuddling and talking, and I enjoyed it, no money changed hands apart from her taxi fare which I gave her under protest (from her).

I went home and we both realised we had very strong feelings for each other so after a few days of long conversations on the 'phone we went off and spent a week together. For various reasons, mainly the age gap, we both knew we couldn't continue a relationship, and that the lovely week would be the end of it. I'm now left with getting on with my life after falling completely head over heels in love with this gorgeous girl, the most beautiful in every sense of the word that I have ever met in my life.

I wonder if I will ever find in a relationship what I had with her during those two weeks, because (at least for now) I've no more interest in punting, I want to meet someone like this girl, but perhaps it's just an impossible dream.

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Apologies for resurrecting this thread again but I've reached a similar conclusion as the original poster on this after my first punt of 2011 yesterday. Without going into all the details it was probably my worst ever punt (with an English lady) in a shabby house (described as nice), came out stinking of fag smoke, very mechanical and just a little bit dire to be honest despite positive feedback on the other site.

I came away from this punt thinking to myself 'what ARE you doing - sort yourself out boy!' - I've taken a good look at myself in the mirror and, like the OP, I'm gonna take a break, do better things withmy cash and my free time and put a brake on the whole paid sex thing for a while.

Maybe I'll be back - but not for a while.

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another resurrection - its now been 2 months almost since my last punt - i think i've realised now because of how i feel about it when think about it that i'm not going to do it again. To all who say they want to give up, truth is you will only give up when the desire to stop exceeds the desire to carry on. i woke up today and realised since it was so long this was true for me. No magic, just realised it was not likely to happen before. 20 punts in 5 months - i had some great times, I only hope you all had the good experiences I did. good luck to you all, I've had fun and its been great knowing you all.

I hope those who enjoy it still continue to have a great time, and those who want to give up truly reach the conclusions they need to be at peace in their minds whichever way is best for them.

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Missed this one over Christmas, one point to add in response to Kate

This is a very interesting topic. From my side of the fence and dealing with a fair amount of newbies, I have found that the majority have got a stereotypical view of working girls before meeting me. They expect it to lack heart completely, be sexy but as you describe 'mechanical'.

As true as everything else you say in yourpost is it is very easy to see why a lot of newbies can have this view, with the massed air of negativity surrounding this activity, everything from the media and political circuses right through to individuals even on this board who who continually spew forth the gospel truth of their opinion that the exchange of money alone is enough for two people to simply set aside their humanity and that any emotional aspect to a meeting is cynicism resulting from said exchange, to steal and slightly bitcher a phrase an opinion repeated often enough may well become the truth in the eyes of some.

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