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It seems like every year we hear of some poor street working girls having died in brutal attacks from society’s perpetual supply of not rights.

IN a modern democracy one might hope that society would look for more sensible ways of treating working girls, and having them work in-doors seems the most obvious solution.

In regard to the current debate about elected officials being accountable for Police policy, is it time to review the current police policies with regard to The Proceeds of Crime Act 2002?

Under these somewhat draconian provisions the police can keep one third of any proceeds of crime they recover.

Substantial sums are available for the police to pursue, to reduce the bite of the police budget, on our depleted public expenses.

The act allows these measures to be implemented in cases of career criminals (ones with at least three antecedents) and anyone running a brothel…whether it imports and violently holds trafficked women against their will or where it is classier outfit where mothers genuinely consent or not to how far they go in a massage.

However throughout the south Wales police area most brothels are allowed to flourish, but not all. Some they raid and close down not always because of trafficked women being present.

Last year I spoke to a young Lady who claimed to have managed a certain establishment in City Road where on a Rugby International weekend £11,000 was taken on just the Saturday.

This is the same establishment which under its former owners (Diane Jones) was raided for having trafficked women on the premises, and somehow the police allowed the owner to escape the jurisdiction with 4million. (£2.6 million of which could have reduced the cost to the Cardiff rate payers of the police budget).

This degree of incompetence almost beggars belief.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2008/01/31/police-turn-blind-eye-to-brothels-91466-20418051/

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Brothel-Madam-Diane-Jones-Refuses-To-Pay-Back-Money-Made-From-Brothels/Article/200907415344758

Jones' business was toppled by Operation Pentameter, a police crackdown on people trafficking into the UK sex industry.

Her empire included massage parlours Twice As Nice in Wood-villeRoadHeaven in West Bute Street, Butetown, The Ambassador in City Road, Roath.

The police at her trial said that she had helped the police and it is clear that she had security cameras in place which the police regularly viewed in various enquiries.

The danger of the police having friendly criminals taking videos of men who buy sexual services is highlighted by the sad case of Dr Williams AM who died after sex.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Williams+massage+girl+was+working+first+night-a0103375099

If Dr Williams AM had not died, that would have made him open to security problems should his political career have put him in considerable power.

Any ‘respectable’ man using such establishments can be identified and videoed and would then be open to bribery. Maybe other politicians of people of influence use such services and not just Dr Jones AM

These videos are being taken by criminals with scant respect for morals.

The keeping of such film records, encouraged by the police, is illegal under the Data protection Act.

If the police have open access to all videos of all who enter, then they will have no problem in establishing how much was illegally taken at the premises if an action leading to a claim under the Proceeds of Crime Act were mounted.

There are very considerable sums open to be collected.

These assets could greatly reduce the burden of the police budget on the ratepayers of the area – but, are being ‘non-pursued’ –on whose authority?

The ratepayers have a right to demand all is done to minimize the bite of this tax.

Clearly the legislature in Westminster take the view that anyone (even without having had a career in crime) who opens a brothel is as culpable as career criminals, for the purposes of the POCA.

It its early stages POCA was allegedly to collect the profits of drug dealers and career criminals, but in South Wales is used against even first time brothel owners.

Clearly SW Police authority usually turns a blind eye.

This is a very strange set of double standards between Westminster stance encoded in statute and local police forces.

In the trial of Diane Jones the police indicated that she had been very helpful to them, so that one can draw the conclusion that she was a friend to the local police, but she was turned over under the national policy Operation Pentameter. She then managed to escape without paying over the 2.6 million the Judge ordered to be repaid!

In any other business to fail to secure such a sum would be criminal negligence.

There are brothels in city centres, one next door to the police social club in Crwys Road and others in premium residential areas, catering for all levels of male society.

Some argue that, better girls in premises than on the street. But is this policy or policy on the hoof without proper consent of the ratepayers.

IN Newport the police have openly stated their policy.

In Cardiff-Swansea nothing is said.

So the police in effect license brothels.

Some are allowed others are not.

In the Echo this week a small independent brothel in Pencoed catering for older gents and the disabled was raided, yet in Cardiff brothels flourish in all neighbourhoods, residential very nice residential or commercial.

Policing policy in this area is neither open nor transparent and it needs to be.

It needs to be because vast sums of money that society could reclaim is being collected by criminals and with video records being kept politicians and others who use such services are laying themselves open to blackmail or worse comprising national security.

Why do the police not collect the funds open to swell their coffers? We have seen that on one day £11,000 was taken by one establishment (£3,600 to the ratepayers). Many of these premises are open 24 hrs; one allegedly has a cash point installed!

Where the police unofficially licence a trade and are not accountable for doing so is the breeding ground for corruption, as is the vast sums generated by such a trade, and one cannot help be a little suspicious when lucrative POCA recovery legislation is not being implemented.

The police in effect licence prostitution in S. Wales, the question is do they also run it?

Given the cut backs in society the ratepayers of south Wales should demand the police are investigated fully in their dealings with the vice industry.

We need transparency of policy and full accountability and this is best achieved by having an elected police commissioner.

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It seems like every year we hear of some poor street working girls having died in brutal attacks from society’s perpetual supply of not rights.

IN a modern democracy one might hope that society would look for more sensible ways of treating working girls, and having them work in-doors seems the most obvious solution.

In regard to the current debate about elected officials being accountable for Police policy, is it time to review the current police policies with regard to The Proceeds of Crime Act 2002?

Under these somewhat draconian provisions the police can keep one third of any proceeds of crime they recover.

Substantial sums are available for the police to pursue, to reduce the bite of the police budget, on our depleted public expenses.

The act allows these measures to be implemented in cases of career criminals (ones with at least three antecedents) and anyone running a brothel…whether it imports and violently holds trafficked women against their will or where it is classier outfit where mothers genuinely consent or not to how far they go in a massage.

However throughout the south Wales police area most brothels are allowed to flourish, but not all. Some they raid and close down not always because of trafficked women being present.

Last year I spoke to a young Lady who claimed to have managed a certain establishment in City Road where on a Rugby International weekend £11,000 was taken on just the Saturday.

This is the same establishment which under its former owners (Diane Jones) was raided for having trafficked women on the premises, and somehow the police allowed the owner to escape the jurisdiction with 4million. (£2.6 million of which could have reduced the cost to the Cardiff rate payers of the police budget).

This degree of incompetence almost beggars belief.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2008/01/31/police-turn-blind-eye-to-brothels-91466-20418051/

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Brothel-Madam-Diane-Jones-Refuses-To-Pay-Back-Money-Made-From-Brothels/Article/200907415344758

Jones' business was toppled by Operation Pentameter, a police crackdown on people trafficking into the UK sex industry.

Her empire included massage parlours Twice As Nice in Wood-villeRoadHeaven in West Bute Street, Butetown, The Ambassador in City Road, Roath.

The police at her trial said that she had helped the police and it is clear that she had security cameras in place which the police regularly viewed in various enquiries.

The danger of the police having friendly criminals taking videos of men who buy sexual services is highlighted by the sad case of Dr Williams AM who died after sex.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Williams+massage+girl+was+working+first+night-a0103375099

If Dr Williams AM had not died, that would have made him open to security problems should his political career have put him in considerable power.

Any ‘respectable’ man using such establishments can be identified and videoed and would then be open to bribery. Maybe other politicians of people of influence use such services and not just Dr Jones AM

These videos are being taken by criminals with scant respect for morals.

The keeping of such film records, encouraged by the police, is illegal under the Data protection Act.

If the police have open access to all videos of all who enter, then they will have no problem in establishing how much was illegally taken at the premises if an action leading to a claim under the Proceeds of Crime Act were mounted.

There are very considerable sums open to be collected.

These assets could greatly reduce the burden of the police budget on the ratepayers of the area – but, are being ‘non-pursued’ –on whose authority?

The ratepayers have a right to demand all is done to minimize the bite of this tax.

Clearly the legislature in Westminster take the view that anyone (even without having had a career in crime) who opens a brothel is as culpable as career criminals, for the purposes of the POCA.

It its early stages POCA was allegedly to collect the profits of drug dealers and career criminals, but in South Wales is used against even first time brothel owners.

Clearly SW Police authority usually turns a blind eye.

This is a very strange set of double standards between Westminster stance encoded in statute and local police forces.

In the trial of Diane Jones the police indicated that she had been very helpful to them, so that one can draw the conclusion that she was a friend to the local police, but she was turned over under the national policy Operation Pentameter. She then managed to escape without paying over the 2.6 million the Judge ordered to be repaid!

In any other business to fail to secure such a sum would be criminal negligence.

There are brothels in city centres, one next door to the police social club in Crwys Road and others in premium residential areas, catering for all levels of male society.

Some argue that, better girls in premises than on the street. But is this policy or policy on the hoof without proper consent of the ratepayers.

IN Newport the police have openly stated their policy.

In Cardiff-Swansea nothing is said.

So the police in effect license brothels.

Some are allowed others are not.

In the Echo this week a small independent brothel in Pencoed catering for older gents and the disabled was raided, yet in Cardiff brothels flourish in all neighbourhoods, residential very nice residential or commercial.

Policing policy in this area is neither open nor transparent and it needs to be.

It needs to be because vast sums of money that society could reclaim is being collected by criminals and with video records being kept politicians and others who use such services are laying themselves open to blackmail or worse comprising national security.

Why do the police not collect the funds open to swell their coffers? We have seen that on one day £11,000 was taken by one establishment (£3,600 to the ratepayers). Many of these premises are open 24 hrs; one allegedly has a cash point installed!

Where the police unofficially licence a trade and are not accountable for doing so is the breeding ground for corruption, as is the vast sums generated by such a trade, and one cannot help be a little suspicious when lucrative POCA recovery legislation is not being implemented.

The police in effect licence prostitution in S. Wales, the question is do they also run it?

Given the cut backs in society the ratepayers of south Wales should demand the police are investigated fully in their dealings with the vice industry.

We need transparency of policy and full accountability and this is best achieved by having an elected police commissioner.

We get to the end and find out that David Campbell is posting one here, waow.

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Post is far far far rar toooooooooooooooooooooooo Looooooooonnnnnnnnggggggggg! :rolleyes::P

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Post is far far far rar toooooooooooooooooooooooo Looooooooonnnnnnnnggggggggg! :rolleyes::P

That's what you get in a big society.

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Snipped..... by overworked

Well from the points you posted...

The girls who were attacked were also heroin addicts working the streets, not brothels. I dont know any brothel that would employ a drug addict as part of their girls. So legalising brothels wouldnt help them.

Personally I wouldnt be comfortable seeing a girl who HAD to do it to fund an addiction. I want to see a girl who had decided to do pursue this option with a clear head and was comfortable doing it.

Trafficed women in brothels. I agree we need to stamp out trafficed women who are force into this against their will. but not at the expense of brothels who dont employ trafficed women or persecuting punters who believe the girl isnt trafficed. Only forces it underground where it can get worse.

Police seem to attack the easy targets. The ones which dont have trafficed women and advertise freely on the web,etc. The bad ones are the one who dont as they dont want to have a high profile. But thats too much work and cost for police to investigate so they sometimes attack the easy target to prove they require the money and shouldnt be considered for cuts.

Licensed brothels would be the first step but theres too many people who all think punting is a seedy underground activity so I dont see that happening in the near future.

Until someone starts thinking about solutions (licensed brothels, "corgi" registed punters) rather than trying to arrest and condem then nothing will change..

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Trafficed women in brothels. I agree we need to stamp out trafficed women who are force into this against their will. but not at the expense of brothels who dont employ trafficed women or persecuting punters who believe the girl isnt trafficed. Only forces it underground where it can get worse.

After reading this back to myself, rephrased:

Trafficed women in brothels. I agree we need to stamp out trafficed women who are force into this against their will. but not by attacking brothels who dont employ trafficed women or persecuting punters . Only forces it underground where it can get worse.

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Well from the points you posted...

The girls who were attacked were also heroin addicts working the streets, not brothels. I dont know any brothel that would employ a drug addict as part of their girls. So legalising brothels wouldnt help them.

Personally I wouldnt be comfortable seeing a girl who HAD to do it to fund an addiction. I want to see a girl who had decided to do pursue this option with a clear head and was comfortable doing it.

Trafficed women in brothels. I agree we need to stamp out trafficed women who are force into this against their will. but not at the expense of brothels who dont employ trafficed women or persecuting punters who believe the girl isnt trafficed. Only forces it underground where it can get worse.

Police seem to attack the easy targets. The ones which dont have trafficed women and advertise freely on the web,etc. The bad ones are the one who dont as they dont want to have a high profile. But thats too much work and cost for police to investigate so they sometimes attack the easy target to prove they require the money and shouldnt be considered for cuts.

Licensed brothels would be the first step but theres too many people who all think punting is a seedy underground activity so I dont see that happening in the near future.

Until someone starts thinking about solutions (licensed brothels, "corgi" registed punters) rather than trying to arrest and condem then nothing will change..

I'm trying to get my head around CORGI registered punters! Would that be based on some sort of feedback scheme from WGs?

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I'm trying to get my head around CORGI registered punters! Would that be based on some sort of feedback scheme from WGs?

Haven't you heard? From 1 January 2011 it will be illegal to pay for the sexual services of a prostitute without showing your PunterLicence to the lady.

To obtain your PunterLicence you need to take the completed form PL1 to your local nick together with the fee (currently £205) and 2 forms of ID, one of which must be a valid passport or a driving licence. The other must be a current utility bill.

Once the police have done all the necessary checks, including an Enhanced CRB check, then you will receive your PunterLicence.

The prostitute is obliged to keep full records of the customers that she sees including the date, full name and the licence number of the punter. Those records are available for inspection at any time by the police and HMRC.

I can see the scheme being really popular ;) .

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It seems like every year we hear of some poor street working girls having died in brutal attacks from society’s perpetual supply of not rights.

IN a modern democracy one might hope that society would look for more sensible ways of treating working girls, and having them work in-doors seems the most obvious solution.

In regard to the current debate about elected officials being accountable for Police policy, is it time to review the current police policies with regard to The Proceeds of Crime Act 2002?

Under these somewhat draconian provisions the police can keep one third of any proceeds of crime they recover.

Substantial sums are available for the police to pursue, to reduce the bite of the police budget, on our depleted public expenses.

The act allows these measures to be implemented in cases of career criminals (ones with at least three antecedents) and anyone running a brothel…whether it imports and violently holds trafficked women against their will or where it is classier outfit where mothers genuinely consent or not to how far they go in a massage.

However throughout the south Wales police area most brothels are allowed to flourish, but not all. Some they raid and close down not always because of trafficked women being present.

Last year I spoke to a young Lady who claimed to have managed a certain establishment in City Road where on a Rugby International weekend £11,000 was taken on just the Saturday.

This is the same establishment which under its former owners (Diane Jones) was raided for having trafficked women on the premises, and somehow the police allowed the owner to escape the jurisdiction with 4million. (£2.6 million of which could have reduced the cost to the Cardiff rate payers of the police budget).

This degree of incompetence almost beggars belief.http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2008/01/31/police-turn-blind-eye-to-brothels-91466-20418051/

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Brothel-Madam-Diane-Jones-Refuses-To-Pay-Back-Money-Made-From-Brothels/Article/200907415344758

Jones' business was toppled by Operation Pentameter, a police crackdown on people trafficking into the UK sex industry.

Her empire included massage parlours Twice As Nice in Wood-villeRoadHeaven in West Bute Street, Butetown, The Ambassador in City Road, Roath.

The police at her trial said that she had helped the police and it is clear that she had security cameras in place which the police regularly viewed in various enquiries.

The danger of the police having friendly criminals taking videos of men who buy sexual services is highlighted by the sad case of Dr Williams AM who died after sex.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Williams+massage+girl+was+working+first+night-a0103375099

If Dr Williams AM had not died, that would have made him open to security problems should his political career have put him in considerable power.

Any ‘respectable’ man using such establishments can be identified and videoed and would then be open to bribery. Maybe other politicians of people of influence use such services and not just Dr Jones AM

These videos are being taken by criminals with scant respect for morals.

The keeping of such film records, encouraged by the police, is illegal under the Data protection Act.

If the police have open access to all videos of all who enter, then they will have no problem in establishing how much was illegally taken at the premises if an action leading to a claim under the Proceeds of Crime Act were mounted.

There are very considerable sums open to be collected.

These assets could greatly reduce the burden of the police budget on the ratepayers of the area – but, are being ‘non-pursued’ –on whose authority?

The ratepayers have a right to demand all is done to minimize the bite of this tax.

Clearly the legislature in Westminster take the view that anyone (even without having had a career in crime) who opens a brothel is as culpable as career criminals, for the purposes of the POCA.

It its early stages POCA was allegedly to collect the profits of drug dealers and career criminals, but in South Wales is used against even first time brothel owners.

Clearly SW Police authority usually turns a blind eye.

This is a very strange set of double standards between Westminster stance encoded in statute and local police forces.

In the trial of Diane Jones the police indicated that she had been very helpful to them, so that one can draw the conclusion that she was a friend to the local police, but she was turned over under the national policy Operation Pentameter. She then managed to escape without paying over the 2.6 million the Judge ordered to be repaid!

In any other business to fail to secure such a sum would be criminal negligence.

There are brothels in city centres, one next door to the police social club in Crwys Road and others in premium residential areas, catering for all levels of male society.

Some argue that, better girls in premises than on the street. But is this policy or policy on the hoof without proper consent of the ratepayers.

IN Newport the police have openly stated their policy.

In Cardiff-Swansea nothing is said.

So the police in effect license brothels.

Some are allowed others are not.

In the Echo this week a small independent brothel in Pencoed catering for older gents and the disabled was raided, yet in Cardiff brothels flourish in all neighbourhoods, residential very nice residential or commercial.

Policing policy in this area is neither open nor transparent and it needs to be.

It needs to be because vast sums of money that society could reclaim is being collected by criminals and with video records being kept politicians and others who use such services are laying themselves open to blackmail or worse comprising national security.

Why do the police not collect the funds open to swell their coffers? We have seen that on one day £11,000 was taken by one establishment (£3,600 to the ratepayers). Many of these premises are open 24 hrs; one allegedly has a cash point installed!

Where the police unofficially licence a trade and are not accountable for doing so is the breeding ground for corruption, as is the vast sums generated by such a trade, and one cannot help be a little suspicious when lucrative POCA recovery legislation is not being implemented.

The police in effect licence prostitution in S. Wales, the question is do they also run it?

Given the cut backs in society the ratepayers of south Wales should demand the police are investigated fully in their dealings with the vice industry.

We need transparency of policy and full accountability and this is best achieved by having an elected police commissioner.

Sorry to tell you this but, as Nick Davies reported over a year ago in "The Guardian" (and was roundly condemned by the anti-sex work lobby for having done so), despite all the publicity & the claims of their having been highly successful, there were no traficking convictions that arose as a result of either of the two Pentameter operations. The official reports on the results of these, "intelligence driven", nationwide operations show that the only trafficking related prosecutions that were ascribed to either Operation Pentameter 1 or 2 were, in fact, the result of previously conducted, local, operations but which had not been acted upon until such time as they would grab the biggest headlines and make the Operations appear to be a better use of Police funds and personnel than they were.

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POCA is very scary, and enables the police to seize ALL assets of anyone they only suspect of commiting an offence of any nature. They can then keep that money in definitely without bringing any charges, or proving guilt.

This does happen and can affect anyone.

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POCA is very scary, and enables the police to seize ALL assets of anyone they only suspect of commiting an offence of any nature. They can then keep that money indefinitely without bringing any charges, or proving guilt.

This does happen and can affect anyone.

Er, no, Strawberry! Not "an offence of any nature", but only the offences (in England and Wales) listed in Schedule 2, which you'll find on page 276 of the statute!

Note that Burglary, Theft, Robbery (incl. Mugging) are not included!

For us, after Drug Trafficking, Money Laundering, Directing Terrorism, People Trafficking, Arms Trafficking, Counterfeiting, Intellectual Property,

we find para 8:

Pimps and brothels

8 Pimps and brothels

(1) An offence under any of the following provisions of the Sexual Offences Act 1956

(c. 69)—

(a) section 2 (procuring a woman by threats);

(B) section 3 (procuring a woman by false pretences);

© section 9 (procuring a defective woman to have sexual intercourse);

(d) section 22 (procuring a woman for prostitution);

(e) section 24 (detaining a woman in a brothel);

(f) section 28 (causing or encouraging prostitution etc of girl under 16);

(g) section 29 (causing or encouraging prostitution of defective woman);

(h) section 30 (man living on earnings of prostitution);

(i) section 31 (woman exercising control over prostitute);

(j) section 33 (keeping a brothel);

(k) section 34 (letting premises for use as brothel).

(2) An offence under section 5 of the Sexual Offences Act 1967 (c. 60) (living on the

earnings of male prostitute).

(and doubtless others have been casually added by Statutory Instrument, since!)

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Sorry to tell you this but, as Nick Davies reported over a year ago in "The Guardian" (and was roundly condemned by the anti-sex work lobby for having done so), despite all the publicity & the claims of their having been highly successful, there were no traficking convictions that arose as a result of either of the two Pentameter operations. The official reports on the results of these, "intelligence driven", nationwide operations show that the only trafficking related prosecutions that were ascribed to either Operation Pentameter 1 or 2 were, in fact, the result of previously conducted, local, operations but which had not been acted upon until such time as they would grab the biggest headlines and make the Operations appear to be a better use of Police funds and personnel than they were.

exactly,this was re-enforced by c4 showing "the hunt for britains sex traffickers" recently

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Didn't the Cardiff case start because the "Madam" herself took a forced Lithuanian girl to the police?

All the premises mentioned appear to be still operating, possibly with new owners.

I can't see where the street girls are relevant to the original long and detailed post.

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Sorry to tell you this but, as Nick Davies reported over a year ago in "The Guardian" (and was roundly condemned by the anti-sex work lobby for having done so), despite all the publicity & the claims of their having been highly successful, there were no traficking convictions that arose as a result of either of the two Pentameter operations. The official reports on the results of these, "intelligence driven", nationwide operations show that the only trafficking related prosecutions that were ascribed to either Operation Pentameter 1 or 2 were, in fact, the result of previously conducted, local, operations but which had not been acted upon until such time as they would grab the biggest headlines and make the Operations appear to be a better use of Police funds and personnel than they were.

Diana Jones had been under investigation between March 2004 and October 2006, long before Pentameter 1.

In November 2005 there was a trial at Cardiff Crown Court of 3 Albanians who bought a Lithuanian girl and took her to work at 3 brothels in Cardiff. Two of these were owned by Diana.

“The woman, who was 20 at the time, had been forced to work in three brothels - Abygale's, the Executive Sauna and No 19.

Mungiovi-Cuka's trial was told that she was expected to have sex with up to nine men a day before handing over earnings of around £1,225 a week to the gang.”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4510940.stm

The Albanians received prison sentences of 4 and 6 years.

The girl was rescued because she managed to phone her family in Lithuania.

BBC video journalist Tony Smith, who worked on the programme, said: 'We did a main piece on the 6pm main national news about a family who were missing their daughter in Lithuania. 'She was found and reunited and as a result of that we were in contact with an international charity in Lithuania who dealt with missing people 'In March, out of the blue we had an e-mail from the Missing Persons' Family Support Centre in Lithuania saying one of the women had managed to phone home and her mother was desperate to find her. 'I've lived in Cardiff and it was fairly obvious where she was 'She knew she was in a city called Cardiff and she mentioned a Crisword Street, a shop called Bedihill nearby and a that she was working in a place called Abigirls 'I realised she meant Crwys Road, Abygale's massage parlour and Bedihill was the bed shop Heli-beds. That was enough for us to find her.' They contacted South Wales Police and gave the information, and photographs of the girl, who had been 20 when she arrived in the city, to Detective Sergeant Stuart Wales. Cathays CID identified where she was living and starting watching the building. When they saw her walking to work, two female police officers approached her Mr Smith said: 'She was very frightened and confused. She looked broken 'The reason she was frightened was because they had her under such a level of intimidation. 'They said they knew where her family lived and they would get her eight-year-old sister and do the same to her. 'She was beaten up quite a bit but I think the mental torture was worse than the physical abuse.' She relaxed after being handed a note from her mother and went to the police station on Crwys Road with the officers where she was interviewed for several hours. The woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was then looked after in Cardiff by the Poppy Appeal, who help trafficked women. She was said to look 'terribly unhealthy' after her ordeal, and she had been fed occasionally, on chocolate and crisps Mr Smith said: 'She had been incredibly brave in giving evidence against these people and she had survived an ordeal that would have broken most people.'

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+amazing+E-Mail+that+saved+girl+from+life+of+vice+in+city.-a0138931237

It’s not surprising therefore that Diana was a “marked woman” and was convicted in January 2008 of brothel keeping after admitting the offence.

Diana Jones was making very large amounts of money and “employed” many EE girls. She knew that brothel keeping was illegal and presumably was aware of the risks. I have little sympathy for her.

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Didn't the Cardiff case start because the "Madam" herself took a forced Lithuanian girl to the police?

All the premises mentioned appear to be still operating, possibly with new owners.

I suspect that she knew that she was about to be arrested and thought that taking 2 girls who she suspected of being trafficked, to the police, would count in her favour. My supposition only. Who knows?

As for who owns the brothels now - I suspect that they are still owned by Diana but "under new management". She still lives in northern Cyprus in a villa without the worry of an Extradition Treaty. I bet that she doesn't have any money worries either.

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I suspect that she knew that she was about to be arrested and thought that taking 2 girls who she suspected of being trafficked, to the police, would count in her favour. My supposition only. Who knows?

As for who owns the brothels now - I suspect that they are still owned by Diana but "under new management". She still lives in northern Cyprus in a villa without the worry of an Extradition Treaty. I bet that she doesn't have any money worries either.

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Exactly.

Diane was done over by a national operation, whilst being a 'friend' to the local gendarmes.

She would let them see her videos of who 'entered'...

Surprise , surprise they then bungle the Proceeds of Crime operation - after all she was a friend...

Thus the ratepayers of cardiff were deprived on £2.6 million to swell their coffers on the police budget.

Beggars belief.

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