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Has Punting Made You More Or Less Cynical Of Women

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Don't get me wrong, I have met mostly very attractive women whilst punting but taken in the context of the industry as a whole,these boards, the promoters of the business etc, I can't help feeling that more so perhaps than most other workers, what you see is very different than what is really there. Punting very often makes me feel I'm only seeing the tip of the iceberg.And I think I am now more aware than I ever was of the attraction money holds for women.Have your views altered in anyway since starting to punt ?

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Neither !

It hasnt altered my opinions or perceptions of women at all.

Punting, anyhow, only exposes you to the small percentage of women, as a whole, who choose to sell sex for money and so cant be taken to be indicative of the entire worldwide feminine population.

All that I can say about, actually the majority of wgs I've seen in my experience, is that they're almost the ultimate pragmatists and, in my opinion, cynicism doesn't really enter the equation.

If I met many wgs who obviously disliked men and clearly had a low opinion of them in general, then yes I could say they were cynical and hypocritical for following this line of work, but so far I havent encountered this.

Gorgeous and sexy beyond belief, skilled and sometimes sweet with it too, and allowing me to have the pleasure for a price ?......who am I to complain.....or judge ?

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Actually far far more cynical about men (and I was fairly cynical in the first place) and less so about women!

But I suspect thats not the answer you wanted!

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Actually far far more cynical about men (and I was fairly cynical in the first place) and less so about women!

But I suspect thats not the answer you wanted!

In general I'm a lot more cynical about some of the bitches (and bastards) I work with than I am about most of the very nice ladies I've met pursuing my hobby.

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In general I'm a lot more cynical about some of the bitches (and bastards) I work with than I am about most of the very nice ladies I've met pursuing my hobby.

very true - I encountered far many more c*nts and c*cksuckers when I worked the mindless 9-5 grind in London's Square Mile than I have ever done during my many years of punting.... :D

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I realise this is a question for the men regarding ladies, but thought I’d give my view from the other side...

Being an escort has restored my faith in men which was damaged from dating too many disrespectful wotsits who only wanted me for sex when they felt like it. Since I began setting the rules and boundaries the men I’ve met have, on the whole, treated me better than a lot of my exes.

Without a doubt more.

More cynical of women since punting? Why is that?

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Cant say its changed my opinion either way really. I respected women before i punted, and do so while punting.

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I'm a lot less cynical of WG's, many more than I thought would be, are honest!

But, I'm much more cynical of civilian women and how they use sex to get their way with men.....after all, giving it up for a wg isn't such a big deal...about £120/hr to be precise!

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It's more or less confirmed my views of women. the fact is if you're a man then as far as women are concerned you're a person of low status,low worth, low importance and not worthy of any great attention(unless of course you happen to be a tall alpha male type, which is a different kettle of fish I wouldn't know about). At least in the case of professional women they're prepared to get off their high horse and let you have a bit of fun. But you still have to remember you're lagging well down in importance for them, well behind their job, their house, their boyfriend, their car, their garden, their pet hamster and most other things. Forgetting this is the certain road to ruin.

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I adore Women but to me it highlights the power Women have over Men, we are desperate for sex with Women, in my experience Women can take it or leave it and can obviously use this situation to their advantage.

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It's more or less confirmed my views of women. the fact is if you're a man then as far as women are concerned you're a person of low status,low worth, low importance and not worthy of any great attention(unless of course you happen to be a tall alpha male type, which is a different kettle of fish I wouldn't know about). At least in the case of professional women they're prepared to get off their high horse and let you have a bit of fun. But you still have to remember you're lagging well down in importance for them, well behind their job, their house, their boyfriend, their car, their garden, their pet hamster and most other things. Forgetting this is the certain road to ruin.

Sorry but I think you are projecting your own insecurities. If anything it confirms your view of how women react to you. You can blame them all you want but if you put yourself across as fragile shy shuffling person uncomfortable in your own skin that's all on you, it's not their job to glean the oh so lovely man you are underneath and bring you out of yourself so you can be the king of the prom after a quick makeover. The whole nice guys finish last philosophy annoys the hell out of me, nice guys do fine, it's the tepid woe be me types that give nice guys a bad name.

I do agree that WG's are more pragmatic when it comes to sex and seemingly have a much more male approach to the whole thing. At its worst it might mean you get perfunctory service though I've only had that at brothels which I tend to stay away from now. I wouldn't say that has made me more cynical, just more wise to the situation, some women use sex as a means to an end and some of us men use means as a way to get our end off.

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Sorry but I think you are projecting your own insecurities. If anything it confirms your view of how women react to you. You can blame them all you want but if you put yourself across as fragile shy shuffling person uncomfortable in your own skin that's all on you, it's not their job to glean the oh so lovely man you are underneath and bring you out of yourself so you can be the king of the prom after a quick makeover. The whole nice guys finish last philosophy annoys the hell out of me, nice guys do fine, it's the tepid woe be me types that give nice guys a bad name.

Absolutely. I love nice men, I’m not interested in getting involved with “bad boys” or the “treat them mean to keep them keen” brigade. But what I don’t like are guys who have no backbone, who are doormats, it’s really unattractive. I also don’t like the ones who get involved with me only to get cold feet after a few weeks because they aren’t over the breakup of a former relationship. Sort your emotions out before getting into my heart, grrrrr! :rolleyes:

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Unfortunately I have little faith in either sex; there are women out there who take men for granted and men who take women for granted.

Typically though, I find bad men and women tend to gravitate towards each other and they mostly just hurt themselves but it is sad when a nice person gets stung by these types.

All the WG's I have met (except one) have been lovely ladies who genuinely seemed interested in pleasing me; even though there is no contract binding them or anything else, they still behaved impeccably and gave me a great time when they could easily have been distant and miserable and not played along with what I wanted.

I have heard of the bad WG's though and seen some sad posts on this forum and I've also heard of girls getting hurt by horrible men too, or having dirty men turn up and generally being unpleasant.

Don't let the bad people and experiences tarnish all your future experiences, there are plenty of nice people out there.

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Good thing about a WG is you know where you stand. Too many "real" relationships women play games and all this "playing hard to get stuff" just annoys me. Least with a WG you know where you both stand

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I realise this is a question for the men regarding ladies, but thought I’d give my view from the other side...

Being an escort has restored my faith in men which was damaged from dating too many disrespectful wotsits who only wanted me for sex when they felt like it. Since I began setting the rules and boundaries the men I’ve met have, on the whole, treated me better than a lot of my exes.

More cynical of women since punting? Why is that?

Haha -- that must be a first -- A WG declaring punters a nicer breed than a pile of her exes!! Me thinks you probably have been [ and perhaps still are ] attracted to males with characteristics that end up hurting you but you just cant help it. there are many like you, both male and female.[ and yes Lara its a complete guess.,I know nothing about you, your likes etc,etc }.

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Good thing about a WG is you know where you stand. Too many "real" relationships women play games and all this "playing hard to get stuff" just annoys me. Least with a WG you know where you both stand

thats the one thing you dont know as a punter !!! I guess many ladies when they are doing their thing , would far prefer to be curled up in their pj's on the sofa in front of a fire watching their fav soap on the tv and sampling a nice box of chocies rather than pretending to enjoy yet another punter trying to pleasure her with RO !

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I realise this is a question for the men regarding ladies, but thought I’d give my view from the other side...

Being an escort has restored my faith in men which was damaged from dating too many disrespectful wotsits who only wanted me for sex when they felt like it. Since I began setting the rules and boundaries the men I’ve met have, on the whole, treated me better than a lot of my exes.

What a really nice comment Lara, thanks for sharing that. :)

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thats the one thing you dont know as a punter !!! I guess many ladies when they are doing their thing , would far prefer to be curled up in their pj's on the sofa in front of a fire watching their fav soap on the tv and sampling a nice box of chocies rather than pretending to enjoy yet another punter trying to pleasure her with RO !

So just to confirm you are firmly in the cynical camp? :D

You are so correct - however only if we still get the money, no point being in PJs on the sofa watching soaps in front of the fire if you cannot afford the coal or chocolate :P

S x

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So just to confirm you are firmly in the cynical camp? :D

You are so correct - however only if we still get the money, no point being in PJs on the sofa watching soaps in front of the fire if you cannot afford the coal or chocolate :P

S x

Snap !!:D

No actually,I like to think of myself as a realist. I still have the ego to believe and to want that the girl should enjoy her time with me and perhaps I go a bit over board on the longer sessions to create the conditions and ambience to achieve this. God loves a tryer !!

If I was a true cynic then I wouldn't think that you are a lovely bundle of fun,like I actually do.:P

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I think I am now more aware than I ever was of the attraction money holds for women.

and men are different how?

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Snap !!:D

No actually,I like to think of myself as a realist. I still have the ego to believe and to want that the girl should enjoy her time with me and perhaps I go a bit over board on the longer sessions to create the conditions and ambience to achieve this. God loves a tryer !!

If I was a true cynic then I wouldn't think that you are a lovely bundle of fun,like I actually do.:P

You are just a big bundle of fluff :)

I love saying the opposite of what I really think with a dose of truths and half truths, and I also adore those that are given affirmation by my lies, therefore your last statement I am going to believe is the truth :)

Some 'get' you and some believe there is nothing to 'get' I only care about the former.

And on that note I bid you sweet dreams

S x

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You are just a big bundle of fluff :)

I love saying the opposite of what I really think with a dose of truths and half truths, and I also adore those that are given affirmation by my lies, therefore your last statement I am going to believe is the truth :)

Some 'get' you and some believe there is nothing to 'get' I only care about the former.

And on that note I bid you sweet dreams

S x

Hopefully,I will be able to decipher your post tomorrow morning when the vino has worn off !!:D

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I realise this is a question for the men regarding ladies, but thought I’d give my view from the other side...

Being an escort has restored my faith in men which was damaged from dating too many disrespectful wotsits who only wanted me for sex when they felt like it. Since I began setting the rules and boundaries the men I’ve met have, on the whole, treated me better than a lot of my exes.

More cynical of women since punting? Why is that?

Lara, this is not easy to answer. I've read previously, that WG's have said that becoming WG's, has given them much more confidence.

After taking a long hard look at myself, I have to admit that the most probable reason that I started punting, was due to my low self esteem.

Continuing to punt, (and especially with my long list of miserable punts this year, some due to A/W), has done nothing positive for my self esteem.

Women everywhere seem to spend so much time, money & effort to make themselves beautiful, yet continuously remain aloof and and unavailable. In London, women don't even make eye contact, as if to even acknowledge your existence will somehow corrupt them.

So what is it all in aid of? It seems like they will only pay attention once they've seen your bank balance, your BMW, your fashionable clothes, rugged good looks and sculpted torso.

Forgive me for the rant. I've had a miserable run of punts this year, my last one yesterday was enough to make anyone stop. The F/R has been posted, I'm waiting for Galahad to put it online.

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and men are different how?
Okay, here is an example. There is an all-time great baseball player in the States called Jose Canseco, who met his second wife while she was working in a Hooters restuarant (she's okay to look at, BTW). Now that's a very high-status guy instantly being attracted to a very low-status, but extremely physically attractive woman. I do not believe the opposite could occur. I don't believe you could get Ana Ivanovic dating someone who worked behind the counter of a McDonald's (not that I meant to imply that there's anything wrong with that). It just wouldn't happen. That's the difference.

I don't view it as shallow, I just think it's a manifestation of our differing biological needs.

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