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In A Time Before The Internet

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ok, so there are a few oldies on here....

My punting was mostly in the 80's, i'd say 84 through to 90, maybe 92.

Then i stopped.

In 1995 i got onto the internet.. oh, what a land of opportunity ... forums, websites, email, webcams.

How hard was punting pre-net?

how did you manage?

obviously there were saunas .. but no research, no FR's.

as for independents, one inch photo's in poxy contact mags where you had no idea if it was really her .. and often not even a phone number.

come to think of it .. we didn't have mobile phones.

how on earth did we manage?

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Most of mine was in Manchester which was easy due to loads of ads in the Evening News

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as for independents, one inch photo's in poxy contact mags where you had no idea if it was really her .. and often not even a phone number.

sounds like the other site now! :lol:

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Sunday/Daily Sport and ringing to check the lady out. The most abandoned 'newspaper' along our roads, apparently.

In Soho, visiting walk ups.

Cards in phone boxes.

In towns, the local newspaper, some of which wouldn't carry massage adverts.

Yellow pages used to have a section for massage.

'Trade it', especially for Bristol area.

Newsagent windows.

All made easier with the net!

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I started punting in the early 90s.

The personal section of the Manchester Evening News was packed full of adverts for parlours, private flats and agencies.

The only thing restricting me in those early days was a lack of funds. It was a lot more expensive (taking inflation into account) in the early days too.

The first private flat I used was about £50 for a full service (generally this was half an hour)

The first outcall I got was £120 for an hour.

Today I can get a 30 minute vanilla punt in a Manchester parlour for £40

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I started punting in the early 90s.

The personal section of the Manchester Evening News was packed full of adverts for parlours, private flats and agencies.

The only thing restricting me in those early days was a lack of funds. It was a lot more expensive (taking inflation into account) in the early days too.

The first private flat I used was about £50 for a full service (generally this was half an hour)

The first outcall I got was £120 for an hour.

Today I can get a 30 minute vanilla punt in a Manchester parlour for £40

I started punting from the postcards in West End phone booths in 1980's, remember Samantha just off Goodge street?

I was delighted to discover punternet in very early 2000 when there were only about 200FR's. At the time I used to visit the New Experience Sauna at Mornington Crescent. My FR no 487 on a favourite girl is still on line, although she's been gone for 10 years I can't bear to ask G to delete it!

Although mobile phones and the Internet have hugely increased the choice, I think I have just become more choosy. It doesn't seem to be any easier to achieve the ideal punt!

Daffon

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Since I've started doing this, I've always wondered how on earth people managed it pre-internet. It's bad enough just now trying to work out which girls have real photos and which ones have fake ones - it must have been practically impossible before things like tineye and even google. And I just can't imagine booking a girl based purely on a description (although to be fair, the one time I have done this turned out well, but that was a fairly safe bet since everybody who had seen her on here raved about her).

Were the postcards in phone boxes ever accurate? I've always assumed they were always pictures of women from top-shelf mags.

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Since I've started doing this, I've always wondered how on earth people managed it pre-internet. It's bad enough just now trying to work out which girls have real photos and which ones have fake ones - it must have been practically impossible before things like tineye and even google. And I just can't imagine booking a girl based purely on a description (although to be fair, the one time I have done this turned out well, but that was a fairly safe bet since everybody who had seen her on here raved about her).

Were the postcards in phone boxes ever accurate? I've always assumed they were always pictures of women from top-shelf mags.

In the 70s and 80s the postcards were in newsagents windows, not phoneboxes, and they were only descriptions of the girls, not photos ( real or imagined). Very hit and miss, but on balance I only encountered two or three real dogs. Usually it was more that the claimed 34DDs were 32Bs, that sort of thing. Three of my all-time favourites were found by these cards, however, and I must have unloaded a gallon of juice into these girls in that decade. The other place to look ( still today )in London was What's On magazine. In the mid-80s I found a Scandinavian/Russian agency in that mag that had an endless supply of real blonde Nordic beauties. One cutie I fucked in Chelsea had to be the single most beautiful thing I ever slid my cock into, with the finest pair of stand-up-on-their-own tits I ever held onto for dear life! I prefer the internet browsing opps, of course, but Photoshop means I still find a some girls who are, in the flesh, way less attractive than their website pics, so all is not perfect even now.

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I am sure it's been done but the impact of the internet on the sex industry as a whole would make an interesting case study.

In the early days of HoD in Milton Keynes (2002) ourselves and then MBK's were one of the first to invest in websites and then professional photos.

Clients were a lot more accepting then too, not a criticism of clients now just fact. A caller would not ask for services they just wanted to know if a girl was available or not.

Pricing too was different, girls who work for us now talk of earning thousands every week in 90-95 as they charged £180 - £200 locally for an hour and were not questioned.

So with the internet boom has come more choice, more girls, more clients, higher demand and lower prices. All good for the business.

However both the extreme ends of markets are not that effected by the internet. Street walkers and at the top end, girls working 'the circuit' or 'network'.

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Postcards in newsagents, Soho doorways and the street scene in certain areas such as Shepherd's Market. This and some of the other London areas were more "up market" than today's street scene.

Then of course there were the contact mags. Initially they didn't have pictures. And no phone numbers. It was a question of writing letters complete with stamped address envelope and sending them off to the magazine for onward delivery after obtaining a postal order )nice and anonymous ) for the magazine's forwarding fee. Obviously couldn't have the replies turning up in the morning mail so a postbox address had to be used. I guess about 50% of the letters got a response with a third of those worth following up.

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Try thread: "Punting without a mobile phone...... " also

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I started punting from the postcards in West End phone booths in 1980's, remember Samantha just off Goodge street?

I was delighted to discover punternet in very early 2000 when there were only about 200FR's. At the time I used to visit the New Experience Sauna at Mornington Crescent. My FR no 487 on a favourite girl is still on line, although she's been gone for 10 years I can't bear to ask G to delete it!

Although mobile phones and the Internet have hugely increased the choice, I think I have just become more choosy. It doesn't seem to be any easier to achieve the ideal punt!

Daffon

Seems you must have joined in early 2000. Strangely I never see joined date for any members here to be so early. Even yours says 2008. Why is it so?

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ok, so there are a few oldies on here....

My punting was mostly in the 80's, i'd say 84 through to 90, maybe 92.

Then i stopped.

In 1995 i got onto the internet.. oh, what a land of opportunity ... forums, websites, email, webcams.

How hard was punting pre-net?

how did you manage?

obviously there were saunas .. but no research, no FR's.

as for independents, one inch photo's in poxy contact mags where you had no idea if it was really her .. and often not even a phone number.

come to think of it .. we didn't have mobile phones.

how on earth did we manage?

In the early 70's there were cards on boards at Newport Court and Archer Street with adverts like French lessons,

Large chest for sale. The cost back then for a walkup was between £3.50 - £5.00 which was about a quarter of my weekly wage!

By the late 70's the cards in phoneboxes came along with the very humerous Genuine Picture description. I also used to buy

local newspapers which contained ads. I agree that the Internet has really transformed things and the choice of girls now

is amazing.

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ok, so there are a few oldies on here....

My punting was mostly in the 80's, i'd say 84 through to 90, maybe 92.

Then i stopped.

In 1995 i got onto the internet.. oh, what a land of opportunity ... forums, websites, email, webcams.

How hard was punting pre-net?

how did you manage?

obviously there were saunas .. but no research, no FR's.

as for independents, one inch photo's in poxy contact mags where you had no idea if it was really her .. and often not even a phone number.

come to think of it .. we didn't have mobile phones.

how on earth did we manage?

TBH I do most things via the net and have done since 2000.

I can honestly say that if it wasnt for the net, then I would not be punting.

Calling newspaper classifieds or looking through Thomsons has never appealed to me, not to mention kerb krawling ... eeek !.

Without the Internet, life would be very slow, and I probably would be working in some boring job like many...

Thank God for the foresight of people like Bill Gates and Tim Berners-Lee !!

NB I expect the obvious abuse from the 'we hate Bill Gates linux and maccies brigade' by saying this,

but I dont really care what you think - I have had it for years and I am am more than used to it :lol:

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Well from a WGS point of view i began my work from advertising in the local papers

1999 onwards Trade it and the Evening Post Expensive at around 180-200 a week and a lot of phone calls and timewasters but it did give me a good solid grounding into this business that i think that girs entering the business now will never ever get, plus i was able to build up a very good base of clients in the southwest area some of which i still see now 10 years on

having to deal with lots of people on the phones asking the same questions day in day out and the timewaster element of it, means that my bullshit radar is spot on for timewaster and idiots ( i can be 99per cent of the time tell a timewaster from a text , email or just a few words spoken on the phones)i think they all go to the same charm school :P

In the end of 2003/2004 i got my first website playtimewithparis and never really looked back i could see even then the potential of a good website with good pictures and clear information, but i still kept the adds in the papers until around 2006 when i got slowly got rid of the paper adverts for good as i was monitering my website business against the paper business and and the website was for more economical and virtually 95 percent of bookingss made via my website came through Occassionaly if i have been away for a while touring i will still pop an add in the paper along with the website address and if your touring in certain areas then paper adverts are a must but if i had to go back to the paper adverts i honestly think i would stop working

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Seems you must have joined in early 2000. Strangely I never see joined date for any members here to be so early. Even yours says 2008. Why is it so?

The site existed without a forum for a long time. Then the forum was set up, and ran for a while before being taken down for a while. G brought it back in mid 2007, so you won;t see any members 'older' than that.

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Been punting since early 1987. Used contact mags initially (all had landline numbers in by then - mobiles very rarely used). Then found out that I could access via free ads papers(thanks to my boss at the time's indiscretion!). If occasionally in London used the phone booth cards.

Used to pay around £25 for 30 minutes then..on reflection it makes £60 on average now good value

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I started with a copy of the daily sport then found the internet then punternet then other punter sites and escort/parlour directories and the rests history.

Funny thing is despite lurking I never got around to joining the forum or posting field reports until a couple of years ago.

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In the 70s and 80s the postcards were in newsagents windows, not phoneboxes, and they were only descriptions of the girls, not photos ( real or imagined). Very hit and miss, but on balance I only encountered two or three real dogs. Usually it was more that the claimed 34DDs were 32Bs, that sort of thing. Three of my all-time favourites were found by these cards, however, and I must have unloaded a gallon of juice into these girls in that decade. The other place to look ( still today )in London was What's On magazine. In the mid-80s I found a Scandinavian/Russian agency in that mag that had an endless supply of real blonde Nordic beauties. One cutie I fucked in Chelsea had to be the single most beautiful thing I ever slid my cock into, with the finest pair of stand-up-on-their-own tits I ever held onto for dear life! I prefer the internet browsing opps, of course, but Photoshop means I still find a some girls who are, in the flesh, way less attractive than their website pics, so all is not perfect even now.

Siliconfan was the " what's on" agency run by a lady called Lena?

That was my starting point - chelsea blondes as it became though the ad was "blue angel"

I saw all their girls until the agency closed a few years back

Prime escorts and supreme 69 took their mantle but to be honest are hugely disappointing by comparison

I'm almost solely Asian escorts now......

G

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My first foray was summer 1990 in Scotland, and through saucy 'penpals' ads in a newspaper. I received letters in my p.o. box no. from newspaper. We wrote actual letters! With pen and ink! Swapped phone nos! I chose 3 boys from 80 letters. I have written my entrance pre-internet elsewhere, and here, many times.

Then in London, a parlour for 4yrs. (I must have liked it, haha) It was lovely. I designed our advert and printed them out at home, as madam had no pc. Shops and phone boxes around the area. South London Press and it's colleagues etc. 50p a week for the shop addy. No idea what the paper cost, but I know that they were not cheap.

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Siliconfan was the " what's on" agency run by a lady called Lena?

That was my starting point - chelsea blondes as it became though the ad was "blue angel"

I saw all their girls until the agency closed a few years back

Prime escorts and supreme 69 took their mantle but to be honest are hugely disappointing by comparison

I'm almost solely Asian escorts now......

G

Sound right - I remember 'Blue Angel', though not the name of the lady who ran it. The first girl I got through them was Russian, I'm sure. Strawberry blonde who showed up for an outcall in my hotel in a stunning blue basque and stockings and had me at attention in no time. They had a flat not far from Gloucester Road tube station and the girls were always lovely. I just wish I'd had a second chance at that real cutie-of-cuties.

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ok, so there are a few oldies on here....

My punting was mostly in the 80's, i'd say 84 through to 90, maybe 92.

Then i stopped.

In 1995 i got onto the internet.. oh, what a land of opportunity ... forums, websites, email, webcams.

How hard was punting pre-net?

how did you manage?

obviously there were saunas .. but no research, no FR's.

as for independents, one inch photo's in poxy contact mags where you had no idea if it was really her .. and often not even a phone number.

come to think of it .. we didn't have mobile phones.

how on earth did we manage?

Yes, I dabbled with contact mags for a couple of years around 94-96. It was a lot of faffing about and sending SAEs to PO box numbers etc. The internet transformed punting for sure - so much more information for punters, greater choice and falling prices in real terms - what more could you ask for?

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My experience of Pre-Internet Punting is rather limited, but I do remember using local papers and calling agencies from phoneboxes and a lady would call back within 5 mins or so. I used to use an Agency in Oxford who had some excellent ladies, but they were shut down and the owner prosecuted. I remember seeing her story in the Daily Sport!!

The advent of the internet has certainly been a bonus and helped to reduce the number of poor quality punts as can now research feedback before parting with my hard earned cash!!

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