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Suspension Of Disbelief

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Over the last few years of punting I've struggled more and more to believe that the girl is really enjoying having sex with me, which, as you might imagine, is a tad frustrating. Now maybe it's down to my own shortcomings (no pun intended), but I'm only a few years away from 40 now, a lot heavier than I used to be, and when I'm with a beautiful twenty-something, I can't maintain the fantasy that she's getting off on it too.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no fantasist, and once the punt is over I know that it's just a paid encounter, but during the time I do like to try and trick myself in to believing that it's a mutual thing. I recently saw the absolutely beautiful Kitty of HOD, and had a great time with her, but whilst we were shagging in cowgirl and she was moaning away (in a realistic fashion - don't get me wrong, this is no way a reflection on her) I couldn't help but think "Yeah, she's obviously faking it" and the reality of the situation kicked in...

So how do other guys cope with this? Do you tend to believe the girl is enjoying the session every bit as much as you are? Do you not really mind as long as you get your rocks off (which I can understand, we're paying for the encounter of course)? Or have you found some other solution?

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I rarely go for penetrative sex, reverse O and owo are my likes, but I often can get my ladies to come and they sometimes tell me what is good and what isn't, so I don't think that they are faking it.

What I find less convincing is all the 'oh baby that feels so good', when she is sucking my cock and even less convincing in porn films when the lady who is sucking you off keeps moaning with pleasure without any stimulation of her vital parts.

Its not like their clit is being stimulated as in 'Deep Throat'?

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I discovered some time ago that when I am punting with ladies much closer my own age I am better able to maintain the illusion (maybe sometimes it isn't too much of an illusion...?) and I find those meetings very enjoyable, albeit in a different way to when I am with a 20-something hottie. I tend to last longer too (as I guess the visual stimulation is not so exotic, i.e. I do get to shag a 40-something at home occasionally) and so the sex is oftem more intense.

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The key I think is to be very horny .I dont know how it is for others but when I am in this state,in the 'zone', my mind is capable of playing all sorts of tricks. I can do the most outrageous things which seem pretty normal at the time but some days later seem off the wall. Have any of you punters pondered afterwards about something that you thought or did , which in the cold light of day makes you think you need to see a sex therapist or some counsellor ? But thats the fun of it too. I approach 'suspension of disbelief issue quite simply. The girl, be she 20 or 50 has chosen to put herself in the way of shagging pretty much whoever turns up- fat old boring ugly etc. She comes prepared and ready with the necessary mindset to go thru with it. I have tremendous respect for the character they must have. Its not really a case of whether they fancy me or not-- they dont I'm sure and Idont need that but I am confident that at the very least ,they will have a nice relaxing easy time and hopefully a bit of a laugh thrown in too.

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I discovered some time ago that when I am punting with ladies much closer my own age I am better able to maintain the illusion (maybe sometimes it isn't too much of an illusion...?) and I find those meetings very enjoyable, albeit in a different way to when I am with a 20-something hottie. I tend to last longer too (as I guess the visual stimulation is not so exotic, i.e. I do get to shag a 40-something at home occasionally) and so the sex is oftem more intense.

*sharp intake of breath between teeth

I like most people was sexually active in my twenties but I'd imagine I was all over the place just trying to enjoy myself with little if any regard for lucky lady (term used loosely). I cannot recall any one particular mind blowing sexual experience in that period. There was one actually involving my mum's best mate but it involved night vision goggles and a distance of over 75 meters, she personally was unaware of my mind blowing experience.

Most WG's who have spoken about the point you the original OP has posed say they prefer clients over 35. Sure the younger guys may not be overweight and possibly more attractive but they'll also be the ones posturing, full of their own self importance and just looking to empty their sacks. Older gents are, as with older women more interesting due to life experience, less arrogant, more appreciative and as a general rule more considerate.

So don't beat yourself up, relax and savour the moment.

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To be honest, I don't care if the woman is enjoying it as much as me. Or to put it more accurately, I realise that worrying about it is futile. As many people will testify, you can be in a relationship with a woman, and she might not enjoy the sex as much as you.

My attitude is to be polite and charming, take an interest in the girl, try to be complimentary without being over-the-top, do things to her that should pleasure her, while making sure I am clear in what I want. That's all you can do. Out of all the escorts I've been with, I can think of one that I didn't really fancy (but I still gave her a good shagging), and a couple that were really poor and obviously going through the motions. But one of them was a lingerie model, and she let me shag her for ages in several positions, so I say in that situation just make the most of it.

I have been with far more escorts that I know at least got some pleasure out of what happened, some quite a bit more than that. Whether it was as much as me, is highly debatable, but you have no control whatsoever of that, so don't worry about it.

Also, if you feel self-conscious about your physique, do something about it. If you are genuinely overweight, you will be surprised how quickly you can lose some weight, as much of the excess will be stored in water. Everyone's seen pictures of people that have gone from 25 stone to 12; I'm sure you're not that big, so if they can do it, why can't you?

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The key I think is to be very horny .I dont know how it is for others but when I am in this state,in the 'zone', my mind is capable of playing all sorts of tricks. I can do the most outrageous things which seem pretty normal at the time but some days later seem off the wall. Have any of you punters pondered afterwards about something that you thought or did , which in the cold light of day makes you think you need to see a sex therapist or some counsellor ? But thats the fun of it too. I approach 'suspension of disbelief issue quite simply. The girl, be she 20 or 50 has chosen to put herself in the way of shagging pretty much whoever turns up- fat old boring ugly etc. She comes prepared and ready with the necessary mindset to go thru with it. I have tremendous respect for the character they must have. Its not really a case of whether they fancy me or not-- they dont I'm sure and Idont need that but I am confident that at the very least ,they will have a nice relaxing easy time and hopefully a bit of a laugh thrown in too.

I have an iteresting experience on the horizon; through the purple site I have made contact with a local lady who provides the services that I am looking for. She also has admitted to being on a swingers site because she just loves sex and usually orgasms through oral, toys or penetrative sex.

So, I will be paying for this service and I assume that if she seems to be enjoying it, she must be, as I could have paid her nothing for the same service an she tells me she still would have come.

I will report back!

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The key I think is to be very horny .I dont know how it is for others but when I am in this state,in the 'zone', my mind is capable of playing all sorts of tricks. I can do the most outrageous things which seem pretty normal at the time but some days later seem off the wall. Have any of you punters pondered afterwards about something that you thought or did , which in the cold light of day makes you think you need to see a sex therapist or some counsellor ? But thats the fun of it too.

I know what your on about, I sometimes refer to it as a sex hangover, as I will do something in the height of the moment, and then a while later cringe, as to think I have embarrassed myself when really I probably havent.

I have an iteresting experience on the horizon; through the purple site I have made contact with a local lady who provides the services that I am looking for. She also has admitted to being on a swingers site because she just loves sex and usually orgasms through oral, toys or penetrative sex.

So, I will be paying for this service and I assume that if she seems to be enjoying it, she must be, as I could have paid her nothing for the same service an she tells me she still would have come.

I will report back!

Fron experience the best times I have had have been with escorts who swing - I think its because I get off knowing others are enjoying themselves and it makes me more confident, where as certain parlour experiences have left me in no uncertain terms that they did'nt want to be there!

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I know what your on about, I sometimes refer to it as a sex hangover, as I will do something in the height of the moment, and then a while later cringe, as to think I have embarrassed myself when really I probably havent.

Fron experience the best times I have had have been with escorts who swing - I think its because I get off knowing others are enjoying themselves and it makes me more confident, where as certain parlour experiences have left me in no uncertain terms that they did'nt want to be there!

I'm up for it. Have been texting this afternoon and there is no doubt she enjoys what she enjoys and knows her limits.

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I have an iteresting experience on the horizon; through the purple site I have made contact with a local lady who provides the services that I am looking for. She also has admitted to being on a swingers site because she just loves sex and usually orgasms through oral, toys or penetrative sex.

So, I will be paying for this service and I assume that if she seems to be enjoying it, she must be, as I could have paid her nothing for the same service an she tells me she still would have come.

I will report back!

look forward to hearing how you got on.

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I know what your on about, I sometimes refer to it as a sex hangover, as I will do something in the height of the moment, and then a while later cringe, as to think I have embarrassed myself when really I probably havent.

Fron experience the best times I have had have been with escorts who swing - I think its because I get off knowing others are enjoying themselves and it makes me more confident, where as certain parlour experiences have left me in no uncertain terms that they did'nt want to be there!

Example. Never been to a parlour but 'in the zone ' decided to go. Having chosen the girl, I asked for location.Was told it was 20 mins away -- it was 45 in heavy traffic. Best bit was I was told it was located over a chipper.!! Did that stop me ? NO ! Had been at a heavy meeting so arrived by taxi all suited and booted, looking very 'corporate'-- really dodgy area. I could feel the taxi guy thinking 'WTF '. The maid was hanging out the window looking for me. The front door was ajar- no need to ring the bell. Went in trapzing up the old wooden stairs, carrying an on-board suitcase. I looked ridiculous . The maid met me at the top of the stairs in sweats and sandals and apologised that the girl I had booked was not free for a while and would I wait in the 'waiting room'. I made my excuses and left, passing by a 'heavy' patrolling outside on the footpath. I stuckout like a sore thumb as I walked away up the road-- at least I got out alive !! Thinking rationally, would I agree to book a girl under these circumstances -- no way but it was fun !!

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Who ever knows if a girl's orgasm is real or not? But seriously, who cares?

If you spend enough time with a lady you'll work out if she likes you or not. If she thinks you're nice, you take time to ask what she likes and you do your best to make sure she's comfy then just worry about your own orgasm. It's your fantasy you're paying for, not hers. If she wants an orgasm and didn't get one it's up to her to tell you what she wants you to do or sort herself out.

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I have seen a few ladies who I feel enjoyed our time together as much as I did, and I am definitley no adonis. Just an aging overweight giant. It helped that one of the ladies had a tendency to gush, making rather clear when I was doing something right.

Another lady I have seen and will see again, is a part time escort and during some months give all her profits away to charity, as she doesn't need the money. I assume she feels that escorting actually makes things more discrete for her.

So don't assume that the lady isn't enjoying the time with you.

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Thanks for the replies folks.

I discovered some time ago that when I am punting with ladies much closer my own age I am better able to maintain the illusion (maybe sometimes it isn't too much of an illusion...?) and I find those meetings very enjoyable, albeit in a different way to when I am with a 20-something hottie.

I think that might be the solution, as I imagine it'd be easier to believe that a lass would want to be with me if I was in her age group. BBW's appeal much more to me these days too (which is probably tied in with concerns with my own weight) so I might try going down that route more.

The key I think is to be very horny.

True, and funnily enough I wasn't the day I saw Kitty. Again, it was nothing to do with her, just circumstances. So I might try abstaining for a few days before I see a girl next, to see if that helps.

Also, if you feel self-conscious about your physique, do something about it. If you are genuinely overweight, you will be surprised how quickly you can lose some weight, as much of the excess will be stored in water. Everyone's seen pictures of people that have gone from 25 stone to 12; I'm sure you're not that big, so if they can do it, why can't you?

Well I'm 17 stone, and 6ft tall, but the weight has gathered in the stomach area making me look about six months pregnant :( Alas due to an accident a few years back my left leg's buggered, so it's difficult to exercise for any decent amount of time. I was thin once though, and hopefully one day will be again...

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Sometimes the bod says yes when the head says no!

It is surprising where pleasure and enjoyment can come from and you know from many threads on the subject this can be and quite often is the truth.

And I want to know just how much of reading jaded clients tell you that this must be true before you start believing it.....tell ya this internet punting lark is both a blessing and a curse.......they say ignorance is bliss!

S x

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Over the last few years of punting I've struggled more and more to believe that the girl is really enjoying having sex with me, which, as you might imagine, is a tad frustrating. Now maybe it's down to my own shortcomings (no pun intended), but I'm only a few years away from 40 now, a lot heavier than I used to be, and when I'm with a beautiful twenty-something, I can't maintain the fantasy that she's getting off on it too.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no fantasist, and once the punt is over I know that it's just a paid encounter, but during the time I do like to try and trick myself in to believing that it's a mutual thing. I recently saw the absolutely beautiful Kitty of HOD, and had a great time with her, but whilst we were shagging in cowgirl and she was moaning away (in a realistic fashion - don't get me wrong, this is no way a reflection on her) I couldn't help but think "Yeah, she's obviously faking it" and the reality of the situation kicked in...

So how do other guys cope with this? Do you tend to believe the girl is enjoying the session every bit as much as you are? Do you not really mind as long as you get your rocks off (which I can understand, we're paying for the encounter of course)? Or have you found some other solution?

All but the very few sex hungry nymphs who appreciate the extra cash are nothing more than good actors with a thick skin, bills to pay, shoes and holidays to buy or uni debts to settle. It's work when all said and done. Up to now you have been able to ignore this fact because your lust for sex at any cost and naivety has been strong enough and smart enough to fool you otherwise. It’s astonishing the explanations and justifications you can give yourself to convince you that she’s enjoying it, but hardly surprising since our language provides such a rich vocabulary of words and meanings with which to do so. But inevitably like with many drug-like effects, over time it loses its potency and I suspect this is what is beginning to happen with you just as it has with many others before.

40 is another milestone reached and you tend to take stock questioning where you’re at, where you’re going and what it’s all for and with punting playing a big part in your life (and trust me anything involving women and sex does) it is bound to be near the top of the agenda. I don’t want to cast a dark cloud of despair over your activities here but it doesn’t get better once you reach that stage. What started out as a thrill-ride offering an escape from reality and the middle finger to the rule book of physical attraction for a fee comes back to bite you in the ass sooner or later if you let it.

It’s nice to be able to say I don’t really have to do this if I don’t want to but the day soon comes when actually, now you have no say in the matter. The only thing I can suggest is to perhaps stick to women closer to your own age maybe there will be a more convincing encounter.

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So how do other guys cope with this? Do you tend to believe the girl is enjoying the session every bit as much as you are?

I believe that most of the girls I've seen, take pride in the job and want their clients to have a fantastic time with them. So it's about enjoying yourself and her putting a smile on your face......If you leave happy, she's enjoyed the session! B)

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So how do other guys cope with this? Do you tend to believe the girl is enjoying the session every bit as much as you are? Do you not really mind as long as you get your rocks off (which I can understand, we're paying for the encounter of course)? Or have you found some other solution?

For the record I'm probably younger than the average punter, so I can only be max 10 years older than the girl, and I'm not overweight... although it is a shame about my face ;) and probably my personality too, if I'm honest! So I doubt any of the girls I see find me that appealing.

I'm never really that sure how well I'm doing but I always find the obviously over the top faking it to be quite funny and often literally lol at the situation. You have to remember that over the top faking it is a lot better than her lying there in silence.

I think you've just got to learn to laugh and enjoy it... it is supposed to be fun after all and you are paying her for a good time... if she has a good time too then everyone's a winner but you can't make your having a good time too dependent on her having a good time. In my opinion, if you are punting with the kind of girls you could pull in the real world then you're doing it wrong, so stick with the twenty-something stunners if it makes you feel happy ;):D

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I think the advice to pick women nearer you age is the best I've read so far. I too am put off at the thought of hiring young working girls because I cannot fill the gap between ages with my imagination. But it always delights me the way the working girls throw themselves into their role of selling that fantasy to us, they earn every penny they charge.

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I think the advice to pick women nearer you age is the best I've read so far.

In that case are there any ladies offering pensioners discounts?? :rolleyes:

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In that case are there any ladies offering pensioners discounts?? :rolleyes:

I've been told from a nurse friend that you can get plenty of action free at your local old folks home. And it's all BB, so STDs are rampant. I guess if you're in your twilight years you may as well make the most of them. And OWO probably means without teeth :mellow:

Anyway, I just came to post a link to a lady's blog which I think explains the situation nicely http://www.emily-jones.co.uk/2010/12/the-show/

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FYI there is a band named 'Spock's Beard'.

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I've been told from a nurse friend that you can get plenty of action free at your local old folks home. And it's all BB, so STDs are rampant. I guess if you're in your twilight years you may as well make the most of them. And OWO probably means without teeth :mellow:

Anyway, I just came to post a link to a lady's blog which I think explains the situation nicely http://www.emily-jones.co.uk/2010/12/the-show/

That was a good little piece from the lady concerned who explains that it is a 'show' but fun. I like the quote near the end 'Yes, it’s a show. A big, beautiful, enthusiastic performance with a huge amount of audience participation!'

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if you are punting with the kind of girls you could pull in the real world then you're doing it wrong

That makes sense if you're single, but those of us who are married or in a LTR don't generally go "on the pull".

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I used to be very cynical about this, having been with several OTT fake moaners who were 'coming' within seconds of penetration. Since then I've met a few girls that seemed to really enjoy themselves as much as I did. The difference is quite surprising.

In your typical low end parlour, the girl will jump off the bed to grab some wipes a few seconds after you've finished. In contrast to that, during a session with one of the lovely independant girls I see, on sensing I was about to come, she gave herself a little extra hand assistance to take her over the edge. She finished a few seconds after I did and was in no hurry to get up.

They're certainly not going to be having an orgasm with every client, but I find it hard to believe that these girls can have sex and get no pleasure at all from it, unless they're sore, or in pain or something. Maybe this is a question for the ladies, is it possible to be completely numb down below?

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