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Bargain And Schemes

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Does this industry believe in Bargains, promotions and schemes?

A few of girls on the site have indicated that it is insulting for a girl when a punter bargains the price. Do other girls too believe the same? If so, do these girls ensure that they maintain the prices same all all punters?

For the punters I have a question, have they ever bargained prices with girls whether in UK or abroad?

I would prefer to put my answers after a few replies.

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I think this all depends on how busy the WG wishes to be. If she is happy with her level of activity then she obviously isn't going to be offering 'bargains'. If however she would like to attract more clients she may adjust her rates accordingly.

I ran my first January Sale two weeks ago, partly to encourage booking in the first week of January ie leave Christmas a little quieter, as well as meet a few clients who may have been thinking about seeing me for a while.

Regards being insulting I'm afraid a lot of chaps just aren't very polite, "I usually pay £50 for it luv" or "I've got £40 wot can u do for that?" once had someone once spend all day trying to get a booking with me offering me a whole 50% of my usual rate. In the meantime I accepted another booking who was prepared to pay my full fee. You see it doesn't make sense if you are doing fine as you are, to then go slashing prices. Some would argue it could net you a regular client, but I'm afraid "I'm looking for a regular" is an oft use phrase to try wangle an appointment under special considerations. Sorry to those who use that genuinely, but it is true.

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I personally dislike the men who try to bargain my prices, in my mind their really saying "I dont think the SP`s are worth paying that much for." Usually, in my experience is that the same guys will go for the lowest price stated, then either, try to get extra services for free/cheaper than stated or they try to run well over their time .

I recently worked with a wonderfully classy, stunning and professional mature lady in her mid 40`s who really excelled in this job ( now moved abroad, unfortunately) and answered her work phone to a guy who got all details and prices ( which were average hourly of £120-£160 ) who said, "if shes an older woman, than surely she should be cheaper, most blokes want a nice young pert girl, not someone who is old and saggy". Sorry, but what type of a narrow minded idiot says that down the phone!!?

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I have never and will never bargain a WGs price coz I beleive they charge what they think they are worth. If I feel its too expensive, I go somewhere else. Simples!

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As the ladies above have stated, for an indie I think they should set their prices and stick to them as long as the general economic climate dictates they can.

This may sound hypocritical but there is something about a indie offering various discounts and offers that undermines her personal worth IMHO. After all she is her own boss and is not answerable to anyone else.

As an agency we have offered discounts and special offers with various degrees of success. Our 'advent girl' offer throughout December 2009 was very successful as is our current '4 handed massage' at Ego. However the girls sometimes do feel cheapened by offer after offer, with anything in life it looses it's impact after about 7 days anyway. That said any shortfall is always swallowed by the 'house' so the girls never loose out financially.

Another thing to consider is that once you run an offer for too long it is very difficult to then raise the prices back to their original mark. If an agency or indie is running permanent offers then the client should take it that, that is now their set price.

As for bartering for sex. Really ? A girl or agency set their price on their website or on the initial call, if you can get it cheaper elsewhere and the girl(s), service and location is of the same standard then go to them instead. If not pay the money, whilst not offending the girl and keeping some dignity.

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I think whether you bargain or not and for what, depends on the culture you were brought up in, I find it very difficult to bargain for anything even when I am in a country were bargaining is normal and expected. I would certainly never ever bargain with a WG no matter what the situation and especially not in the UK.

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There's a BIG difference between a provider offering a promotion when bookings might be a bit hard to come by and a guy calling up and basically telling her that he doesn't think she's worth her prices so he wants her to drop them.

One is a common business practice, the other is arrogant and insulting

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There's a BIG difference between a provider offering a promotion when bookings might be a bit hard to come by and a guy calling up and basically telling her that he doesn't think she's worth her prices so he wants her to drop them.

One is a common business practice, the other is arrogant and insulting

Bargaining in Chinese massage shops in London is common and accepted, as the lady's opening price is often just an opening bid.

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That's the difference in cultures but when it comes to WGs I just could not do it, even if she is Chinese in China.

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Bargaining in Chinese massage shops in London is common and accepted, as the lady's opening price is often just an opening bid.

Well, I've never been to a chinese place so I'd not know but that is a cultural thing.

Bargaining is not common here in UK no matter what the industry, would you try to barter with your hairdresser, or at the checkout in Asda?

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I would prefer not to bargain at all with WGs. However there are cases, maybe not specifically in UK, where you know that the rate is "x" and she quote "2X". You are sure she is try to earn more from you and she will come down to "x" the moment you start to bargain. So in markets where the price really starts at double expecting you to bargain, I have been bargaining (this is mainly true for thailand, singapore streets). In UK I haven't ever bargained as I feel that these girls here don't overquote thinking that the other guy will bargain. Hence I accept the price they say or plain reject it and go for other option. Another point is that I never bargain for extras the girls quote once the session is started. In simple terms I use following:

1) All payments which will benefit the brothel owner or pimp: Try to bargian where it is a norm to bargain , so that they don't earn more than they should with other clients.

2) All payment which will benifit mainly or total the WG , no bargain, I feel that a WG gives intimacy (in crude terms, sell her body) for a payment, this thing cannot be priced and so any price she sets for the moment is correct for her. We can take it or leave it.

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I never bicker over the fees the lady charges for her services. The escort knows her value for the city she is working in. Some cities in the UK are more expensive to reside in than others, so, her fees will reflect this. The more services she offers , the higher the fee. Like any other business,the escort has expenses she must pay (transportation, gels, gym fees, condoms, and wardrobes).

An escort has offered me a reduced fee on occasion,but that was after I became a regular. We started out with 2 hour appointments. Because I felt comfortable with her and her with me, I moved up to the 4 hour dinner/lunch dates. It was at this time I notice she wasn't charging me her normal 4 hr dinner date rate. I would apply the difference in fees towards a little trinket/gift for her at our next meeting.

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I've never tried to knock any prices down. I think you know the 'going rate' and you can tell if they're really extracting the urine with inflated prices.

There is, however, no getting away from the sickening feeling you have walking away from a poor punt £70 lighter (or whatever). If I'm really on the fence as to whether it's worth the money or not (as petiteluct says, above, it's not all about pert & young) then I'll go for a cheaper option either shorter time or just HR, for example. If it turns out to be great, I'll be back for more. If it does turn out to be poor or overpriced, then at least I've not thrown away as much as I could have.

I have thought about saying out loud what my plan is in the hope that she'd give me the greatest HR ever to ensure I come back, but I suspect that wouldn't work.

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Oh, and I've never been offered a reduced fee, but I have been offered 'free' seconds because I was a regular. And amazing, of course.

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For what it's worth, my view/experience/approach has been:

Parlours -- obviously (I hope) pay the stated price or don't go.

Indies -- I would neither bargain nor haggle, but I would make a counter-proposal, once.

Outcall agencies -- ditto the above.

What I mean by the latter is that while I think bargaining is wrong and haggling is not in my nature, I do not think it is insulting to make an honest counter-offer IF it is genuinely motivated. This happens (to me) relatively rarely because I usually punt in familiar places that I know I can afford, but it does happen sometimes mainly when I am "out of town."

An example: this week I saw an ad by an indie while "away on business" and responded. Speaking on the phone to the lady in question, she sounded very nice and from her description, etc. I wanted to see her. When she got to prices, however, I realised she was out of my ballpark. After letting her know politely that I was undecided and then hanging up (which I thought more polite than saying "I can't afford you" over the phone), I sent her a text saying (again politely) that regrettably her price was beyond my means so I would not be calling back, but that if what I could afford was acceptable to her then to let me know (she charged 150 per hour...I could afford 110), otherwise apologies but I would not be able to go ahead. For better or for worse, she texted back within 2 minutes happily accepting what I could afford. And we had an outstanding time.

I think, personally, the key is integrity and politeness. If you ask a question nicely and it is honestly motivated, it will usually beget a nice answer, even if it is "no". I think it is particularly important to make clear that you are not haggling, but merely making the best offer you can afford for the girl to take or leave as she sees fit.

The reality is that the above happened on a wet Monday night. On a sunny last Friday of the month, I might well have got a "no" or even been ignored completely. But to my mind there's nothing disrespectful about letting someone politely know that your expenditure is ring-fenced and asking whether they can accommodate your budget. It is only rude if you ask a second, third, or fourth time or explicitly try to get something for nothing. However, others may disagree. One other point; I travel to the town in question (above) once a month or so. This lady is now going to get 12 visits a year. She may think 12 x 110 is far better than 1 x 150 though that is not for me to speculate on.

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As the ladies above have stated, for an indie I think they should set their prices and stick to them as long as the general economic climate dictates they can.

This may sound hypocritical but there is something about a indie offering various discounts and offers that undermines her personal worth IMHO. After all she is her own boss and is not answerable to anyone else.

As an agency we have offered discounts and special offers with various degrees of success. Our 'advent girl' offer throughout December 2009 was very successful as is our current '4 handed massage' at Ego. However the girls sometimes do feel cheapened by offer after offer, with anything in life it looses it's impact after about 7 days anyway. That said any shortfall is always swallowed by the 'house' so the girls never loose out financially.

Another thing to consider is that once you run an offer for too long it is very difficult to then raise the prices back to their original mark. If an agency or indie is running permanent offers then the client should take it that, that is now their set price.

As for bartering for sex. Really ? A girl or agency set their price on their website or on the initial call, if you can get it cheaper elsewhere and the girl(s), service and location is of the same standard then go to them instead. If not pay the money, whilst not offending the girl and keeping some dignity.

I wouldn't say your view is hypocritical but it seems a bit short sighted - after all, being the boss of her 'business', she is just making a business decision. If a retailer with a good reputation, e.g. John Lewis has a 20% off sale, no one thinks it is cheapening its reputation, brand or worth?

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I wouldn't say your view is hypocritical but it seems a bit short sighted - after all, being the boss of her 'business', she is just making a business decision. If a retailer with a good reputation, e.g. John Lewis has a 20% off sale, no one thinks it is cheapening its reputation, brand or worth?

John Lewis are not allowing you to put parts of your anatomy in various orifices, cummon PVC you know that :)

S x

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John Lewis are not allowing you to put parts of your anatomy in various orifices, cummon PVC you know that :)

S x

John Lewis are also trying to shift last seasons stock, to make way for new and get some return on their investment.

In this line of business a lot of suspicion abounds, and discounting can be seen as a sign something is wrong.

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For what it's worth, my view/experience/approach has been:

Parlours -- obviously (I hope) pay the stated price or don't go.

Indies -- I would neither bargain nor haggle, but I would make a counter-proposal, once.

Outcall agencies -- ditto the above.

What I mean by the latter is that while I think bargaining is wrong and haggling is not in my nature, I do not think it is insulting to make an honest counter-offer IF it is genuinely motivated. This happens (to me) relatively rarely because I usually punt in familiar places that I know I can afford, but it does happen sometimes mainly when I am "out of town."

Wot eeh said.

Add to that: Regulars!

dont haggle, but show her you can turn into a reliable regular, and see what happens when you start booking longer dates.

If she likes you as a customer (nothing more), then some mutual advantageous business deals will float to the surface.

Best WG "relationships" grow with (indie) ladies you see many times over.

But dont expect this to happen with agencies or parlours.

Indies!

Happy Punting.

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John Lewis are not allowing you to put parts of your anatomy in various orifices, cummon PVC you know that :)

I wondered why I got banned from their stores.

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I never give discounts but I do tend to run over for my regulars - sometimes quite a bit.

I have also been known to do whole day bookings for a minimal cost if it is somewhere that I want to go and I know that I enjoy the gentleman's company.

I am going out to the World Cup for 3 days for just expenses as I love the cricket and the guy is fun. I would never have paid to go myself so it is a treat for me. I am also going to the Test match for 2 days overnight for £200 and expenses paid. I am sure there will be some fun but have asked for separate rooms as I want to get some sleep and enjoy the cricket.

Hopefully someone I know may want to take me to the Cheltenham festival - I am sure there would be an offer for that!

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I never give discounts but I do tend to run over for my regulars - sometimes quite a bit.

I have also been known to do whole day bookings for a minimal cost if it is somewhere that I want to go and I know that I enjoy the gentleman's company.

I am going out to the World Cup for 3 days for just expenses as I love the cricket and the guy is fun. I would never have paid to go myself so it is a treat for me. I am also going to the Test match for 2 days overnight for £200 and expenses paid. I am sure there will be some fun but have asked for separate rooms as I want to get some sleep and enjoy the cricket.

Hopefully someone I know may want to take me to the Cheltenham festival - I am sure there would be an offer for that!

This is my approach but I've not met anyone who wants to go to the sort of places I'd like to!

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This is my approach but I've not met anyone who wants to go to the sort of places I'd like to!

Helps liking traditional men's sports I suppose.

Mind you haven't had any offers to go to dressage with me though, lol.

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This is my approach but I've not met anyone who wants to go to the sort of places I'd like to!

Helps liking traditional men's sports I suppose.

Mind you haven't had any offers to go to dressage with me though, lol.

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Helps liking traditional men's sports I suppose.

Mind you haven't had any offers to go to dressage with me though, lol.

I suppose Athletics, Ski-ing, Fell Walking aren't male sports?There is a 4th sport I'm interested in which is definitely male dominated too.

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