Dandan

Fkk - Recent Observations

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Hello fellow hobbyists. I have been a big fan of the fkk scenes in Frankfurt for sometime now and make regular visits to Palace and Oase. I have had some of the best punting experiences in the 15 years or so i have been partaking in this wonderful hobby. Recently my last two trips i have noticed a worrying trend and I thought I would pass on my opinions to anyone that is interested.

My usual routine is I normally arrive Thursday afternoon and spend the evening at Palace with Friday day at Oase and then a late flight home Friday night.

This trip we did things differently;

Thursday night.: we decided to try the new club Mainhatten an experience I will not be repeating. the club was full of average looking Romainian girls all brunette. it was extremely smoky and more like a bad night club than the relaxing atmosphere of a true fkk. I managed to find 2 girls that were a 6 and service was fine. the wellness section was very nicely done and so was the food area. It was just the main bar area and kino section that was badly thought out at the design stage. On the whole not a great experience and the girls were not up to scratch!

Friday day: disappointed with the previous night I was looking forward to the daytime activities of a tried and tested club. As I was staying in a hotel near palace I thought this trip I would give oase a miss and spend the day at palace before my return flight. I paid the usual 75 euro entry and the club had around 25-30 girls a good mix of 8's with 1 or 2, 9's. The girls here have changed and are very aggressive and pushy with their sell, no longer do they invest the time to seduce you and entice you to the room which in my mind was half the fun. Now it's a case of straight down to business. This was also shown in the room and I noticed that every guy that went to the room was out within about 10 mins. The girls are now trying to extort as much money for as little as possible. I was talking to one girl that was bang up my alley and I was looking forward to spending some time with her until she tried to charge me an extra 50 euro for kissing! My travelling buddy had a 7 min experience in the room also. We were so disappointed we decided to leave after 45 min and grab a cab to oase. A real waste of time and money :(

Friday day : oase is in my opinion the nuts. This place for service is bang on the money. We had a great afternoon with lots of stunning girls all eager to please and happy to provide a fantastic service. I even had a girl that was a 10 and rates in my all time top 5 for looks and service, stunning :) needless to say I left a happy man and I still have a big smile on my face.

It a shame really as I feel palace in terms of facilities, cleanliness, layout, and comfort is the best club but the girls are killing it. Oase on the other hand needs a refurb and could do with sorting out the food etc but in terms of number of girls and quality it wins hands down every time. I love this club. Mainhatten I think are still suffering some teething problems and to be fair to them I would give it another go in about six months or so and see if they have ironed these out and attracted some of the top girls out there.

I hope this is of some help if you are considering a trip.

Happy punting,

Dandan.

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has anyone else noticed this recent trn in poor service at Palace or am i the only one?

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I have only visited FKK World and that was simply one of the best punting experiences I have ever had!

My business partner also thought the same!

Will be back there as soon as we have an excuse!!! Happy days

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I'm waiting for warmer weather before I start my FKK mongering in Germany for this year, but Asia Tourist over on the International Sex Guide forum doesn't seem to share your views. He's positively raving about Palace with his 2 recent rave reviews for his visits in January.

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Sorry to hear that Dandan, I havn't been to these clubs, so can't comment, but I know what you mean, last June In Samya I felt the same way, there were a lot of average looking Romanian girls about, I got nothing against Romanians, Infact I've seen some lookers, but when I'm punting I'm not Interested In average. :P I returned 3 months later and there was a better mix.

Palace can have sharks from what I've read, one problem with the well known clubs, Is that It attracts tourists, one time punters and rich businessmen, like a few drops of blood, this can attract the shark fraus lol, the ones that will try to rip off unknown customers for all they've got, as they wont be back. :( Have heard this happen at Artemis too.

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has anyone else noticed this recent trn in poor service at Palace or am i the only one?

Nope, you are not alone. I went to Palace twice in September. The first time and the last time :blink:

One girl was a very passable GFE, I really enjoyed it, but I had paid for an hour so maybe she was content with that. The other 2 I sessioned with were give me more money, €50 will just get you a quick suck and fuck. One even said what do you expect, you dont go to a FKK for a GFE. Sheesh. Maybe I was unlucky, maybe not.

15 miles North is Oase. What a difference. I've also had some amazing times with very attractive girls, no rush service. There are a couple of sharks, but not many in comparison.

My last visit to Samya echoes Jerboa's, lots of average dark haired Romanians all chain smoking. There were others though, so not a wasted visit. Ive nothing against Romanians either, I know a couple at World who will always get my dosh if they are there again, likewise at Pirates Park and at Finca.

Cant wait to get back there soon, once it warms up a bit.

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For those of you that have never experienced an fkk club your missing out big time. I have had some of the best women and punts of my life at Palace and like I said in my earlier post it's the nicest club for set up, comfort etc. If they could get the girls from Oase to move to palace, they then would qbe able to rename it heaven!! :P

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For the past 3 or so years Frankfurt has been my favourite punting destination in the world with Palace being my favourite establishment. The advantages over Oase were that Palace seemed to have all great looking women, whereas Oase seemed to have a large supply of not very attractive women, and that the lookers at Palace would all proactively try to get my business whereas in Oase if I sat in one place I would be pestered by all the unattractive women and the only way I could end up with a looker was by seeking her out and making the first move.

I get the impression from reading the reviews, both on here and on the ISG, that the FKK Palace I will go back to in the Spring will not be the same as the one I left last summer. But within that, the reviewers who went to Palace and have been happy to pay the extra when asked seemed to have had a great time whilst the ones still expecting to pay only €50 a session without any problem like they used to have been heavily critical of it. In the Spring I'll probably have to adapt to the new FKK Palace or move on. If I really don't like it there's several other FKKs dotted throughout Germany that have been getting positive feedback which I can try.

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Well said Barrack. I first went to Palace several years ago and thought that it was Paradise on Earth. I had a couple of duds out of abut 30 shots over the years, but many 9s gave a 10 level of service. Nowhere else came close. Thailand often gave 10 in service, but rarely above 7 in looks. The seduction in the kino and bar was a major part of the attraction.

Oase has the outdoors in the Summer, but generally I preferred Palace because of its proximity to City. You could pop in and out if you were over on business.

If it has changed as reported, I will be voting with feet and telling the management why. I am sure that I will find other entertainments to compensate.

Peter

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Do you think It might be a case of Palace has got to big for It's boots?

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Do you think It might be a case of Palace has got to big for It's boots?

I don't think it's got too big for it's boots it just feels like they are targeting the tourist Market who either don't know any better or are passing through and happy to accept what's on offer and be relieved of their money. The other places still seem to cater to locals who know and expect better.

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I don't think it's got too big for it's boots it just feels like they are targeting the tourist Market who either don't know any better or are passing through and happy to accept what's on offer and be relieved of their money. The other places still seem to cater to locals who know and expect better.

Yes I've heard the same said for Artemis, and Dolce Vita In Duesseldorf, they are catering for non regulars who don't know any better, they attract a few sharks who are happy to extract as much €uros for little work.

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Yes I've heard the same said for Artemis, and Dolce Vita In Duesseldorf, they are catering for non regulars who don't know any better, they attract a few sharks who are happy to extract as much €uros for little work.

And to those people, they have often never been before and dont know any better and feel that they have had a good time and value for money. Its only when you have experienced the real deal that you notice how bad the service is. If i didnt know any better i too would feel it was great.

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the reviewers who went to Palace and have been happy to pay the extra when asked seemed to have had a great time whilst the ones still expecting to pay only €50 a session without any problem like they used to have been heavily critical of it.

Absolutely. I have no quarms about paying €100 for an hour, but I do with paying €50 for a crap 15 minute service.

When you say 'like they used to', you mean people who have been their before and enjoyed their €50 1/2 sessions and now dont enjoy their €50 15 minute crap service sessions? I'm not suprised at that.

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Absolutely. I have no quarms about paying €100 for an hour, but I do with paying €50 for a crap 15 minute service.

When you say 'like they used to', you mean people who have been their before and enjoyed their €50 1/2 sessions and now dont enjoy their €50 15 minute crap service sessions? I'm not suprised at that.

Yes good point, If we want to pay €50 for 15min crap service we might as well go to Amsterdam.

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And to those people, they have often never been before and dont know any better and feel that they have had a good time and value for money. Its only when you have experienced the real deal that you notice how bad the service is. If i didnt know any better i too would feel it was great.

My first FKK experience was Samya. It really opened up my eyes, in more ways than one. My next 5 visits were back to there, as compared to the UK it was amazing. Now I regard it as a decent smaller club, a bit smokey, no nice outdoor space, but I'd still go back if I was passing. €50 1/2 hour or €75 an hour is great.

I tend to favour nearbyish Finca now as its a nicer place all round, even though its €50 1/2 hour €100 an hour.

If Palace had been my 1st FKK I'd have thought it was amazing too, probably more so than Samya. Both Palace and Samya are convieniently placed near a city with good public transport connections.

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My first visit to FKK clubs in Frankfurt during the first week of March. 1st day went to FKK Oase. Paid 65E entrance, it has indoor porn kino, lounge, Jacuzzi, and outdoor pool and sauna, but didn't try the sauna for long. The food at FKK Oase is fairly basic, bread, butter, fruit, drinks. The girls are generally 5-7 out of 10, and some of the sharks can be aggressive. 1st girl I had was crap 50E 10mins suck and fuck. Having learnt my lesson, the next 2 girls I had during the day were about 6 in looks but 10 in the room. The key to always chat, clarify what you want. The girls were also willing to seduce you and play in the kino for 5 mins before going to the room. For 50E 30mins sessions I got a real GFE doing almost everything with the exception of CIM which as 50E extra and Anal which I didn't enquire. The best bit of the day was the massage which I paid 30E for 30mins.

Second day went to FKK Palace. This place has better food, and sauna's were better than FKK Oase, but unfortunately that’s where the best stuff ends. Entrance to FKK Palace is 75E, but the indoor pool is smaller and I didn't see any outdoor facilities. Throughout the day spoke to many girls, all of whom would only offer a suck and fuck for 50E 30mins. They wanted 100E for a 30mins GFE. Palace has better looking girls than Oase, but unfortunately are trying to extract as much money as they can for little work from those that are none the wiser. Some were in vague with what they offered. When I asked do you DFK, the answer would be maybe. Overall wasn't very pleased with FKK Palace.

Unless you are happy to pay 100E for 30mins, I suggest sticking to FKK Oase.

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My first visit to FKK clubs in Frankfurt during the first week of March. 1st day went to FKK Oase. Paid 65E entrance, it has indoor porn kino, lounge, Jacuzzi, and outdoor pool and sauna, but didn't try the sauna for long. The food at FKK Oase is fairly basic, bread, butter, fruit, drinks. The girls are generally 5-7 out of 10, and some of the sharks can be aggressive. 1st girl I had was crap 50E 10mins suck and fuck. Having learnt my lesson, the next 2 girls I had during the day were about 6 in looks but 10 in the room. The key to always chat, clarify what you want. The girls were also willing to seduce you and play in the kino for 5 mins before going to the room. For 50E 30mins sessions I got a real GFE doing almost everything with the exception of CIM which as 50E extra and Anal which I didn't enquire. The best bit of the day was the massage which I paid 30E for 30mins.

Second day went to FKK Palace. This place has better food, and sauna's were better than FKK Oase, but unfortunately that’s where the best stuff ends. Entrance to FKK Palace is 75E, but the indoor pool is smaller and I didn't see any outdoor facilities. Throughout the day spoke to many girls, all of whom would only offer a suck and fuck for 50E 30mins. They wanted 100E for a 30mins GFE. Palace has better looking girls than Oase, but unfortunately are trying to extract as much money as they can for little work from those that are none the wiser. Some were in vague with what they offered. When I asked do you DFK, the answer would be maybe. Overall wasn't very pleased with FKK Palace.

Unless you are happy to pay 100E for 30mins, I suggest sticking to FKK Oase.

PL your experience at Palace Is not unusual unfortunatly, the club has become popular with many one time foreign visitors and clueless businessmen staying In town, who wont argue about €100 for 30min, as It's cheaper than home eh!

Some of the girls can be very mercenary, never take the girls that try to hook you quickly In the bar, these are the ones who usually provide a rushed crap experience.

Sometimes you need to discuss services In the bar first, and If you don't like the vibe throw her back In, there are plenty more fish In the pond, It also helps If you speak a little Deutsch.

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PL your experience at Palace Is not unusual unfortunatly, the club has become popular with many one time foreign visitors and clueless businessmen staying In town, who wont argue about €100 for 30min, as It's cheaper than home eh!

Some of the girls can be very mercenary, never take the girls that try to hook you quickly In the bar, these are the ones who usually provide a rushed crap experience.

Sometimes you need to discuss services In the bar first, and If you don't like the vibe throw her back In, there are plenty more fish In the pond, It also helps If you speak a little Deutsch.

Have to agree with this - once you have been to other places you notice a massive difference!

I can especially recommend FKK Hawaii in Ingolstadt, off the beaten track, but awesome, and to a lesser extent, FKK Palmas in Nuremberg.

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Have to agree with this - once you have been to other places you notice a massive difference!

I can especially recommend FKK Hawaii in Ingolstadt, off the beaten track, but awesome, and to a lesser extent, FKK Palmas in Nuremberg.

Hi once,

Can you give me details of the two you suggested as I'm looking to try something new. Size, quality, number of girls etc

Thanks

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Hi once,

Can you give me details of the two you suggested as I'm looking to try something new. Size, quality, number of girls etc

Thanks

I have not been to these clubs myself, so can't comment. Depends what your going to Germany for? If It's business and you will only be In a certain area, or If It's a leisure trip, your worlds your oyster. You could probably still get decent punts at Palace or Oase, If your an experienced monger, but these clubs are so well known that they have got very popular, for anyone thinking of visiting a fkk I'd suggest reading through the ISG fkk section. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?275-Germany-FKK-Clubs

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