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Silent Witness On Bbc

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Just finished watching this weeks Silent Witness Drama on BBC1 HD.

This week focused on the murder of a Hungarian Prostitute [and all the people who got involved] by the hands of her Mafia Pimps/|Traffickers, and the consequences of caring enough to help. It was certainly an eye opener [albeit a drama], but following recent trips to the Slovakia and Croatia I find it feasible that it reflects the harsh reality and coldness of life in most of the former soviet backed states in EE. A real culture shock for most of us in the UK.

Food for thought indeed: not only for Overseas Punting, but with the part-time EE WGs girls who visit here?

Anyone else watch it, or have any thoughts?

Part 2 is on tomorrow @ 21:00

Or the 2 parter is repeated Wednesday 22:00 - 0:00 BBC HD

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Its a TV programme, not a documentary. I bet the Budapest authorities will be horrified when they see it, though.

All the stereotypes were there.

No-one denies trafficking happens but you won't get informed about it watching TV dramas.

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Its a TV programme, not a documentary. I bet the Budapest authorities will be horrified when they see it, though. shame!! but its a TV Drama FFS !

All the stereotypes were there. where/who/wtf ?

No-one denies trafficking happens but you won't get informed about it watching TV dramas. I wasnt tryng too !

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Such a lovely, friendly country too ! How can the BBC be so horrible to them ?

Perhaps one of the screen writers had a bad holiday there !

Have you ever been or are you Hungarian ?

WTF - I was simply informing members who may have been interested - was not trying to say it was factual in any way as its Drama as I stated.

I am starting to wonder why everytime I post something on this forum that I seem to get some Terrier [or Panda in this case] biting at my ankles.:o

Do you always watch TV to be informed? its nice to be entertained sometimes [without paying for it - although Sky is not cheap either!] :P

Why are so many looking to pick issue with every post ..... live and let live ... its only a forum.... and its not personal...... chill !:)

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Must admit watching Doctor Who has put me off time travel and I have cancelled my trip to 1066 during the Easter bank holidays.

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Its a TV programme, not a documentary. I bet the Budapest authorities will be horrified when they see it, though.

All the stereotypes were there.

No-one denies trafficking happens but you won't get informed about it watching TV dramas.

He acknowledged it was a TV programme and not a documentary. Furthermore, he didn't say it had informed him...merely that it was eye-opening and provided food for thought. Which, really, are eminently reasonable observations. The one purpose reasonably well made and cogent TV dramas have (and Silent Witness generally sits at the more erudite end of the scale) is that they do provoke people to look where eyes otherwise might not end up looking and, therefore, they serve a useful purpose. Puntaprima was not saying the show gave him the answers to difficult questions...merely that it prompted him to think about what those answers might be. As such, I think your response is unnecessarily condescending.

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He acknowledged it was a TV programme and not a documentary. Furthermore, he didn't say it had informed him...merely that it was eye-opening and provided food for thought. Which, really, are eminently reasonable observations. The one purpose reasonably well made and cogent TV dramas have (and Silent Witness generally sits at the more erudite end of the scale) is that they do provoke people to look where eyes otherwise might not end up looking and, therefore, they serve a useful purpose. Puntaprima was not saying the show gave him the answers to difficult questions...merely that it prompted him to think about what those answers might be. As such, I think your response is unnecessarily condescending.

Thanks for your supportive comments Trolley... ;)

Your response exactly describes my reasoning behind starting the post !

Its nice to see that some members actually do read the content properly before commenting!:)

ALAS this is very rare on here unfortunately :(

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I thought my original comments quite moderate, and why you took them personally I have no idea. As your orginal post has now been modified I can't be sure, but if you read it objectively, while issuing the caveat that its a drama you then proceed as though you thought it was true. Personally, I thought it was a dreadful piece of drama, but if you think differently (apart from the drunk ex communist) I have no problem with that.

I have visited Hungary, in the 70's and 80's as well as in the last 10 years. Same goes for Baltic States, Poland, Czech Rep/slovakia, Ukraine, so i suppose I know more about the evolution of life in these places than most. You should have seen Warsaw in 1975.....

EE girls mostly travel here by their own efforts as they can earn more money here. There is a lot of pimping in Eastern Europe, but if you talk with parlour based girls here a lot of them have hanger-on type boyfriends who are there because the girls make plenty of money, which is a similar situation if you ask me. Plus there are plenty of completely independent girls working in these countries too. In my travels in the last 10 years I have never yet encountered drugs associated with prostitution, but that's partly because I choose carefully.

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I was in Budapest for a conference last Autumn and took the opportunity to visit a stunning escort there. So watching Silent Witness was very freaky. The houses they went into with internal courtyards and balconys were exactly like the house where this girl had her apartment. Also she was very careful about security, did not see any local men, presumably to keep her out of the way of criminal gangs.

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Although not in Hungary, my experience in Poland in the early '80s was interesting. I was part of a film crew making a film which included filming in the hotel we were staying in.

One night we filmed in reception and had about 20 extras dressed as prostitutes and not very fragrant ones at that. The management of the hotel did not turn a hair and the real prostitutes in the bar which was alongside the reception found the whole thing hilarious.

Another day we filmed in the hotel restaurant where one of the main characters was offered a tin of knocked off caviar or a car radio or something pretty trivial by an actor playing the part of a waiter. Immediately the real waiters threatened a walkout and all co-operation from the hotel ceased. The hotel was not allowed to be referred to by name, equipment left in left luggage for safe keeping had to be removed straight away and a raft of other inconveniences were heaped upon us.

I guess it was a cultural thing, prostitution was not considered anything other than normal but to imply that waiters were involved in below the counter dealings was a step too far.

I did not watch the programme but as normal in TV stories, the story comes first and any cultural references have to chime in with those of the country the programme is being shown in and if it bears any relationship to those of the country being portrayed, it is a happy coincidence.

OK, I exaggerate but not much! TV stories are sometimes thought provoking but as they say in Russia, they ask incorrect questions.

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