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Agency V's Independent

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  1. 1. Do you prefer to book girls through and agency or independnt girls?


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As the poll says really.

I'm aware that with independent girls its easier to ask specific questions and plan ahead etc, and also from the girls side of things the benefits of an agency V's being independent (though if any girls on here want to list the pro's and con's from their side to feel free its always interesting to hear points of view), but generally speaking whats your reasons for making the choices that you do? :)

(And no I'm not considering going alone, just curious to see what ppl think tbh as I sometimes wonder if clients perhaps miss out on good agency girls because they wont use agencies etc).

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My preference is for indies, but I have and will see agenecy girls again. Why Indies, I think I see indies more because I like to get some sort of sense of the personality of the lady in question before seeing them, and with Indies, that can come through their websites and through their posts on the forums, as they seem to be more likely to post.

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My pref is certainly independant ladies, i normaly get a better service as i do get a form of personality from the lady. Indis seem to have better websites than a lady on an agency site. Also found that indi ladies seem to stick to their services as advertised & not withdraw services after payment has been made, Some agencies also can use bait & switch so you dont know who you are seeing.

Generaly indis offer a better quality of service all round as word of mouth & FRs as on here & other sites can make or break a lady where as some agencies just dont care if they get good or bad FRs as the lady may have already mooved on.

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In my experience, agencies girls are better than most parlours, but not as good as indies. Going through an agency is far less personal than visiting an indi and can sometimes be a bit production line. Agency girls seem to move around quite a bit and reappear under different names, which makes it hard to keep track if you find one you really like.

I favour indi girls these days with good profiles. Reading their blogs and viewing their amateur photos gives me more of a feel for who they are before I commit to a booking.

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I'm still early in my punting career, but so far I have sticked to agencies. I tend to feel safer by using established agencies that I won't be conned, even if profile stats do deviate from the truth from time to time. Also they charge slightly less then most indies (at least in my local area) which enables me to make more regular visits. It can be a mixed bag sometimes with what you get, but I have had enough good ones so far to keep me interested. Sure I will try indies at some stage to find out what I'm missing.

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In my experience, agencies girls are better than most parlours, but not as good as indies. Going through an agency is far less personal than visiting an indi and can sometimes be a bit production line. Agency girls seem to move around quite a bit and reappear under different names, which makes it hard to keep track if you find one you really like.

I favour indi girls these days with good profiles. Reading their blogs and viewing their amateur photos gives me more of a feel for who they are before I commit to a booking.

I'm in two minds about this. The agency lady may be less ' professional ' but this can be a bonus. There can be something very attractive about a lady who is escorting for some extra cash and may be less wordly then her indie counterpart.Ladies who rely on the agency to organise everything for them, can bring an amateurism to the booking which can be very refreshing and somehow more natural ( or at least appear so ).

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I have found independents to be unreliable. With an agency you can be much more sure of actually having your booking. I have been let down by independents many more times than by agency girls. So if I was a business man on a trip I would go for agency girls. With more time in hand then Independents could be a better bet. Research can help this though but on a trip you don't have time for that. When I was using parlours I would go and see a regular girl, just pitch up on her day and there you go. I have not noticed a difference in service if you get on with a parlour girl then even after a long day on her part you can still have a really enjoyable time. Independents are good for a long term relationship.

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There are good and disasterous in both models.

I have had a succession of regulars in each.

The quality of agency girls depends on the management and how they operate and their integrity.

I avoid (not shun) age agencies that seem to work on a pack 'em in model, they're too hit and miss. The same girl may be fresh and up for fun one day, and tired & psissed off the next.

The most reliable agency I know ( and have known for 20years) says she prefers to work with women who have a dayjob, don't escort every day, and stick with a couple of appoinments a day. I can talk to her about the current list of ladies and receive reliable (but not porno info) - I keep going back

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I prefer indies although I have used an agency. The important thing with indies, I find, is to do your 'homework' thoroughly beforehand. Read between the lines of P/N Field Reports, check their websites, email or ring them up to discuss what you want etc. and above all be civil and pleasant to them. Afer all they are giving their bodies to you for your pleasure.

In two very successful cases, I have used the agency website for information but then by chance discovered (before booking with the agency) that they also took bookings direct, thus by-passing the agency. This meant a considerable saving - one that the agency quoted as £150 for the hour actually charged me £100!

Another indie (after a mind-blowing session for both of us) told me that she would offer me a £40 discount for future bookings. (And I don't claim to be God's gift to women, either!)

Having said all that one of my regulars, with whom I have great sex, I can only book through an agency. Hey, ho!

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There are good and disasterous in both models.

I have had a succession of regulars in each.

The quality of agency girls depends on the management and how they operate and their integrity.

I avoid (not shun) age agencies that seem to work on a pack 'em in model, they're too hit and miss. The same girl may be fresh and up for fun one day, and tired & psissed off the next.

The most reliable agency I know ( and have known for 20years) says she prefers to work with women who have a dayjob, don't escort every day, and stick with a couple of appoinments a day. I can talk to her about the current list of ladies and receive reliable (but not porno info) - I keep going back

Dont really understand you here AK ?

I have found some good agencies remarkably good at steering you in the right direction. They want your repeat custom and a good person will automatically want to advise you properly. I am sure the really good girls can do very well in this environment as the 'owner' will tend to recommend those girls on their list who produce the happiest client. I have often opted for my type of looker but then be advised that she may not suit me. The alternative recommendation has nearly always worked out well.

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Thanks for the replies guys.... kinda confirms my thoughts....

I wondered whether independent girls were more popular and seems on here anyway, they are. Its a shame because I hear stories of girls being unreliable and not totally honest etc in their adverts... and I hear stories that some agencies arent honest etc. Suppose must be a bit of a minefield. Its a shame though as people could be missing out on very nice girls by avoiding one or the other.

To the person who said agency girls arent always as keen or arent professional enough to manage their own bookings..... thats absolutely not so in my case, I simply do not WANT to manage my own. I dont want to be answering calls, emails etc when I am busy with other things, I much prefer a text or call saying "you have a booking" and the work is done. I trust the agency to vet the clients well (they always have to date) and they are there to come get us if we dont check in on time.

I suppose its just a case of being patient and building up a reputation.... :)

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Dont really understand you here AK ?

I have found some good agencies remarkably good at steering you in the right direction. They want your repeat custom and a good person will automatically want to advise you properly. I am sure the really good girls can do very well in this environment as the 'owner' will tend to recommend those girls on their list who produce the happiest client. I have often opted for my type of looker but then be advised that she may not suit me. The alternative recommendation has nearly always worked out well.

I'm an old cynic In a busy area there are many agencies that get most of their business from visitors to town. Not much chance of a repeat and there's always another mug; promise the world and keep packing 'em in

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Disagree with the last post. Reputable agencies surely depend on repeats - OK, I wouldn't go back to one that misled/conned me, but that's an exception in my experience.

Agencies, any statistics to indicate one-offs vs repeats?

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For me it's always been indies, for many of the reasons stated before, but putting bluntly, why pay money to a pimp?

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The so called "pimp" is providing a conduit to allow punters to meet a girl in a safe and clean environment. Sure they take a cut, maybe quite a big one, but they have overheads which should be obvious to all of us. I've never been let down by an agency but the same doesn't apply with indies, even when I've confirmed before and travelled some distance only to find the appointment has been cancelled for some lame excuse.

There are argumenents for both agencies and indies which, of course, must co-exist, in fact many indies also work at agencies - why is that, because they don't want the admin, feel safer and may get more business perhaps?

In case you are wondering, I'm an indie myself, 100% indie punter that is, with no links to any agencies, but I know which agencies i can rely on.

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The key is in your use of the word "reputable"

In the shadow world of punting and providing, reputation only exists on sites like this and between very small groups of guys who may be able to talk among themselves about their hobby.

I am very certain that most punters see the advert, see the babes, get the urge and go for it. The big city agencies know that only too well, and can shrug off the occasional negative FR and just rename the girl and wait for the next punter.

Sure there are agencies that look after the girls and would rather deal with repeats and guys they can trust, but they are not many. And yes they better represented on sites like this than the flakey ones which don't need this sort of examination.

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I am very certain that most punters see the advert, see the babes, get the urge and go for it. The big city agencies know that only too well, and can shrug off the occasional negative FR and just rename the girl and wait for the next punter.

Sure there are agencies that look after the girls and would rather deal with repeats and guys they can trust, but they are not many. And yes they better represented on sites like this than the flakey ones which don't need this sort of examination.

Exactly

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I'm an old cynic In a busy area there are many agencies that get most of their business from visitors to town. Not much chance of a repeat and there's always another mug; promise the world and keep packing 'em in

Disagree.... Many of my outcalls are to private homes. Prob an equal split tbh and we have regular clients. A large number say they've used the agency for years.....

For me it's always been indies, for many of the reasons stated before, but putting bluntly, why pay money to a pimp?

If I was independent I'd not see all the money either. Some would go on web design and hosting, phone bills, internet bills, photographers, and I would have to pay a driver/security for every appointment to ensure there was someone to call upon. So.... Actually taking into account how little commission my agency take I'd be worse off tbh.

That "pimp" thing pisses me off maybe because my agency treat me well and look after me and I like them as people, but personally I think the % they take is fair and reasonable. I know not every agency is the same though.

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As the poll says really.

I'm aware that with independent girls its easier to ask specific questions and plan ahead etc, and also from the girls side of things the benefits of an agency V's being independent (though if any girls on here want to list the pro's and con's from their side to feel free its always interesting to hear points of view), but generally speaking whats your reasons for making the choices that you do? :)

(And no I'm not considering going alone, just curious to see what ppl think tbh as I sometimes wonder if clients perhaps miss out on good agency girls because they wont use agencies etc).

Ticked both.

FOr me on the actual punt I prefer the indy setup. Quiet, more intimate, able to see me at a time thats suitable for me. With a parlour theres others around, they have a closing time. But some Agency girls are usually working in a flat alone too or later hours.

However, in my experience indies are the most unreliable. With an agency or parlour someones always around to pick up the phone. Ive had indies just switch their phone off and just leave me on the doorstep. And with an Agency or parlour they can give you other options if shes a no show.

Plus if its an agency or parlour I trust I dont have to worry about the bait and switch, not being as advertised, etc cos the maid would have already made sure she was legit before I turned up.

Although I prefer indies and seen quite a few, theres just far to many timewasters and scammers around so Ive usually just setteled to parlours or agencies I trust.

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Parlours can sometimes get a bad rap due to the snob element associated with using indies or even agencies. But the fact is, a well run parlour is hard to beat in terms of service and VFM. In addition to that, you'd expect the indi to be at least 30 - 40% better since they charge that much more, but most of the time this simply isn't the case. Indies and agencies are mostly dressed up with elaborate marketing and that's what - all - you are paying for.

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Ticked both.

FOr me on the actual punt I prefer the indy setup. Quiet, more intimate, able to see me at a time thats suitable for me. With a parlour theres others around, they have a closing time. But some Agency girls are usually working in a flat alone too or later hours.

However, in my experience indies are the most unreliable. With an agency or parlour someones always around to pick up the phone. Ive had indies just switch their phone off and just leave me on the doorstep. And with an Agency or parlour they can give you other options if shes a no show.

Plus if its an agency or parlour I trust I dont have to worry about the bait and switch, not being as advertised, etc cos the maid would have already made sure she was legit before I turned up.

Although I prefer indies and seen quite a few, theres just far to many timewasters and scammers around so Ive usually just setteled to parlours or agencies I trust.

Surely this is comparing good parlours and agencies with crap indies though - there are good and bad on both sides? There are lousy parlours (both for ladies and punters) with dire premises who will say anything just to get you through the door, unscrupulous agencies who'll send you anybody who's knocking about no matter who you booked, fail to pass requests on to the lady and completely ignore your complaints (glance through the latest batch of FRs for ample proof) just as there are lazy, greedy indies who think marketing amounts to putting a couple of blurry mobile phone pictures of a fanny with shaving rash on @W and then waiting for the £££ to roll in, and that the job itself involves no more than lying there with your knickers off and remembering to have a shower now and again.

At least afford us all the courtesy of comparing like with like - all indies do not charge more than all parlours, for starters. And whilst there's no doubt that a good parlour or agency experience will knock a piss-poor indie one into a cocked hat, I think the OP was trying to ascertain what punters would choose assuming all other factors were equal. If I was a punter I'd tick all, mind. It depends on mood, convenience and circumstance to me - vive la difference.

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I have found independents to be unreliable. With an agency you can be much more sure of actually having your booking. I have been let down by independents many more times than by agency girls. So if I was a business man on a trip I would go for agency girls. With more time in hand then Independents could be a better bet. Research can help this though but on a trip you don't have time for that. When I was using parlours I would go and see a regular girl, just pitch up on her day and there you go. I have not noticed a difference in service if you get on with a parlour girl then even after a long day on her part you can still have a really enjoyable time. Independents are good for a long term relationship.

I absolutely second that. I was let down by independents in 50% of the cases by making last minute cancellations giving some silly reasons. In many cases if you try to ring them, it reaches the VM and you never get a callback. Also sometimes phone# is not available and the reservation is done through email or booking form for which ideally at least 24 hrs is required for her to respond..I just want to pick up the phone and say I'm meeting you in 2-3 hrs..

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Surely this is comparing good parlours and agencies with crap indies though - there are good and bad on both sides? There are lousy parlours (both for ladies and punters) with dire premises who will say anything just to get you through the door, unscrupulous agencies who'll send you anybody who's knocking about no matter who you booked, fail to pass requests on to the lady and completely ignore your complaints (glance through the latest batch of FRs for ample proof) just as there are lazy, greedy indies who think marketing amounts to putting a couple of blurry mobile phone pictures of a fanny with shaving rash on @W and then waiting for the £££ to roll in, and that the job itself involves no more than lying there with your knickers off and remembering to have a shower now and again.

At least afford us all the courtesy of comparing like with like - all indies do not charge more than all parlours, for starters. And whilst there's no doubt that a good parlour or agency experience will knock a piss-poor indie one into a cocked hat, I think the OP was trying to ascertain what punters would choose assuming all other factors were equal. If I was a punter I'd tick all, mind. It depends on mood, convenience and circumstance to me - vive la difference.

Not quite.

See a good indy then if you see another indy then all bets are off. Treading into the unknown.

See a good agency or parlour girl then odds are another girl I'll see at the same place would be as good, or even better. Even with the odd bad punt Id still keep my option to use them again as Id know they've been good. (To many thou and Id be heading elsewhere)

Ive been let down by indies alot more times than with agency or parlour girls. As I said, Ive had indies switch their phone off and leave me on the doorstep not knowing whether shes late, in the shower or couldnt be bothered. With a parlour or agency someone would at least tell me before I wasted my time.

As I said thou, I prefer the indepent experience, but sadly, good reliable indies are rare.

As you ask thou, like for like, a good indie, agency girl, or parlour girl, theres no difference.why I ticked both... sadly reality of punting is that it never like for like...

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The way I figured it Overworked, is that if an independent lets a punter down that's all she loses out on, but if an agency girl misses a booking she might get fired.

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As the poll says really.

I'm aware that with independent girls its easier to ask specific questions and plan ahead etc, and also from the girls side of things the benefits of an agency V's being independent (though if any girls on here want to list the pro's and con's from their side to feel free its always interesting to hear points of view), but generally speaking whats your reasons for making the choices that you do? :)

(And no I'm not considering going alone, just curious to see what ppl think tbh as I sometimes wonder if clients perhaps miss out on good agency girls because they wont use agencies etc).

I favour independents but I also favour oriental WGs, which causes a conflict because most of the more interesting options are listed with oriental agencies due to unfamiliarity with the UK and its customs, language limitations (in many cases) and, more generally, some need for 'in loco parentis' support and guidance. I have, over time, built up a (changing) list of oriental indies via the purple site but I also check out Punternet FRs for other indies that occasionally surface here. I prefer dealing directly with the WG and also sharing mobile phone numbers when I find a good match because I often need to make punting plans on short notice. I don't mind agencies in principle, but I am skeptical of the ethics of most of the current lot, especially their effectiveness at protecting and supporting their WGs, as well as their treatment of these often rather inexperienced newcomers who must really depend on them until they learn the London ropes.

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