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In a recent post Xenia referred to gazumping a client she had booked, in order to meet one she thought she would enjoy meeting more. Is this a frequent happening, I wonder?

How do WG's decide from phone calls or an exchange of e-mails that client A would be a better visit that client PP, for example.

I realise that with regular clients this might be a sensible option but it leaves us irregulars at something of a disadvantage.

Are any of the guys here aware of having been gazumped?

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Are any of the guys here aware of having been gazumped?

Good question! I've been cancelled, with credible reason given, which I've accepted without question.

Last week, however, I was cancelled at three hours notice, by txt msg with no reason, and she didn't answer my calls, so I'm just wondering, slightly.

Then, again, given that WGs are in business to make money, if, hypothetically, an offer of an overnight @£1k from a regular clashes with my hour @ £150, the lady has, IMHO, a real problem. If she's never seen me before, I'd think that she'd be daft not to send me a text, probably giving excuse of 'flu, or period. If, on the other hand I am a regular, she needs to weigh up how offended I'll be, and whether I'll bad mouth her on the board or elsewhere, before deciding.

It would be nice to see "My word is my bond" in scarlet letters above every WG's bed, but if that were the case "No Show" punters would all, without exception, need to be hunted down, and named&shamed. Bird in hand / Bird in bush.

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In a recent post Xenia referred to gazumping a client she had booked, in order to meet one she thought she would enjoy meeting more. Is this a frequent happening, I wonder?

How do WG's decide from phone calls or an exchange of e-mails that client A would be a better visit that client PP, for example.

I realise that with regular clients this might be a sensible option but it leaves us irregulars at something of a disadvantage.

Are any of the guys here aware of having been gazumped?

I was gazumped by a WG who i had made a booking with. I got to hers as arranged and rang to see if it was okay to come in and her phone was off. I tried over the next half hour and finally got hold of her and she said a regular had rang just after me who could only see her straight away but she was available in half hour. I declined after telling her i didnt appreciate being mucked about like this, and why didnt she have the courtesy to let me know as soon as she got off the phone with her regular, she had no answer to this, so i put it down to either she couldnt be bothered or that by not ringing me she was hoping i would turn up and be prepared to wait so she could fit him and me in thus seeing us both one after the other.

I did think about this later on and her regular was a definate in her eyes plus probably future business against me who might or might not turn up and even if i did it might only be for one punt.

I managed to get a booking with a regular of the time who was local which was a very good punt so all was not lost.

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I've never cancelled a booking for anything other than illness or family situations and if I am honest, I think that men don't like the truth. On the few occasions I have explained that I have been booked, but provisionally until further notice for instance and willing to take on their booking if definite, most men respond with, I'll get back to you.

I'd be really interested to know what is going through their mind? I'm not trying to push them into committing, I'm not trying to say that I'm happy to shun the other person, I'm merely saying that until that second call comes I'm free, but don't muck me about, as there is potentially another client who is interested in seeing me.

Perhaps I should just say 'yes, I'm free'. Am I over complicating things for the poor men callling?

Then you have the endless timewasters. This is why unless it is a regular I am loathed to treat a booking as definite until the actual day. Of course I will not book someone else at their slot if they have assured me that they will be coming etc, but there are those that like to make pretend bookings and get off on just making the call. I am starting to work these ones out and admit there have been times where I haven't bothered getting ready for an appointment (although not double booked) and so far my gut has not let me down.

Having said all that, I personally would never ditch one person, just because I liked the sound of someone else better. You never know what someone is like until you meet them face to face and they could turn out to be a really good regular, while the one you liked the sound of could be a one off or not as nice in the flesh. Would I do it for an overnight booking? I only take them with people I have met before and would hope that we could negotiate a time where it was good for everyone, otherwise I might see if I can re-arrange with the previous booking and be honest.

I guess that is my downfall though? How ever much you know that seeing an Escort is a business transaction, you still don't like to think that anyone else is involved or that other men are also enjoying the service.

Nowt as queer as folk!

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I was gazumped by a WG who i had made a booking with. I got to hers as arranged and rang to see if it was okay to come in and her phone was off. I tried over the next half hour and finally got hold of her and she said a regular had rang just after me who could only see her straight away but she was available in half hour. I declined after telling her i didnt appreciate being mucked about like this, and why didnt she have the courtesy to let me know as soon as she got off the phone with her regular, she had no answer to this, so i put it down to either she couldnt be bothered or that by not ringing me she was hoping i would turn up and be prepared to wait so she could fit him and me in thus seeing us both one after the other.

I did think about this later on and her regular was a definate in her eyes plus probably future business against me who might or might not turn up and even if i did it might only be for one punt.

I managed to get a booking with a regular of the time who was local which was a very good punt so all was not lost.

I wonder if your regular gazumped somebody in order to see you at short notice? Funny old world we live in.

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I've never cancelled a booking for anything other than illness or family situations and if I am honest, I think that men don't like the truth. On the few occasions I have explained that I have been booked, but provisionally until further notice for instance and willing to take on their booking if definite, most men respond with, I'll get back to you.

I'd be really interested to know what is going through their mind? I'm not trying to push them into committing, I'm not trying to say that I'm happy to shun the other person, I'm merely saying that until that second call comes I'm free, but don't muck me about, as there is potentially another client who is interested in seeing me.

Perhaps I should just say 'yes, I'm free'. Am I over complicating things for the poor men callling?

Then you have the endless timewasters. This is why unless it is a regular I am loathed to treat a booking as definite until the actual day. Of course I will not book someone else at their slot if they have assured me that they will be coming etc, but there are those that like to make pretend bookings and get off on just making the call. I am starting to work these ones out and admit there have been times where I haven't bothered getting ready for an appointment (although not double booked) and so far my gut has not let me down.

Having said all that, I personally would never ditch one person, just because I liked the sound of someone else better. You never know what someone is like until you meet them face to face and they could turn out to be a really good regular, while the one you liked the sound of could be a one off or not as nice in the flesh. Would I do it for an overnight booking? I only take them with people I have met before and would hope that we could negotiate a time where it was good for everyone, otherwise I might see if I can re-arrange with the previous booking and be honest.

I guess that is my downfall though? How ever much you know that seeing an Escort is a business transaction, you still don't like to think that anyone else is involved or that other men are also enjoying the service.

Nowt as queer as folk!

I mainly book same day so require a straight yes or no, a maybe is no good to me. In your example i would take the booking. I go elsewhere if its a case of having to phone again though. I might phone back in the future though. I prefer the truth but of course have no way of knowing whether it is the truth or not in most circumstances, its a case of taking the ladies word for it.

I have no problem knowing other punters are involved and enjoying the service. If it doesnt impact on my booking what the lady does with other punters is her business, its certainly not something that concerns me at all simply because i have no way of knowing what has happened previous to me.

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I mainly book same day so require a straight yes or no, a maybe is no good to me. I go elsewhere if its a case of having to phone again. I might phone back in the future though.

I have no problem knowing other punters are involved and enjoying the service. If it doesnt impact on my booking what the lady does with other punters is her business, its certainly not something that concerns me at all.

Same day bookings tend to get a straight answer, if I haven't heard by the other person by then, it's not happening, therefore I'm free. It's the ones that book in advance 'vaguely' that are problematic.

Glad it doesn't bother you, wish everyone was like that.

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Same day bookings tend to get a straight answer, if I haven't heard by the other person by then, it's not happening, therefore I'm free. It's the ones that book in advance 'vaguely' that are problematic.

Glad it doesn't bother you, wish everyone was like that.

I edited my post after yours here. I personally would of taken your appointment in the circumstance you mention.

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I only ever cancel if there is a good reason, I have been offered more expensive bookings but I've never gazumped for that reason and have turned down many more £££s in the process. Anyway as many ladies will tell you any offer doesn't become reality until it actually happens. So you could cancel Mr £150(130 in my case) for an overnight of whatever multiple you use, but he may cancel last minute. I tend to stick with whatever arrangement I've made - which can make you a bit sick if you've turned away other bookings, and the first doesn't make it anyway.

I have gazumped for another reason, and that was purely from a gut feeling point of view. One time it was for someone who was just coming across as someone I'd not like to meet, and I cancelled for that reason accepting a booking from a nice regular instead. The other time was after a day of no shows - right up until the minute it was going to happen too. Then a guy rang from a newspaper ad I had in that day, he didn't ask any details at all just said he was on his way through my town anyway and would stop off. Since all my no shows had been in response to that ad, plus the fact he hadn't asked prices or any details about myself before booking I'm afraid I had a really bad feeling. So when someone rang to say they had read my site, my reviews etc and gave a few more punting credentials I'm afraid I gave him the appointment. They weren't at the exact same time and I could have possibly made both but I don't work on squeezing my bookings together like that. When the first guy rang me from the place to park I sent a text saying I couldn't make it admitting I had doubted him. What followed was a couple of abusive messages telling me to get a life.

I've never repeated this since, even though I've had guys book and not turn up even after confirming right up until their appointment time.

I have also had chaps ask me to go out very late at night to them saying they'll pay over the odds, more than the booking I have lined up next morning. I'm afraid I have never taken up such an offer. Partly because I have a suspicion they are only offering the extra to get my attention, partly that it isn't fair on the booking I have in the morning if I'm tired or simply cannot make it because I've been up all night. I'm also a bit wary of going out in the middle of the night since the client is probably under the influence or about to nod off himself!

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Not something I'd do either. Its doesn't make good business sense. Guys talk to each other and it could affect your name, that guy your letting down could turn out to be your new best regular and also he could be leaving you a review which in turn could bring in another 20 or so clients (regulars can only leave one).

It also wouldn't feel right. You can earn more than enough money in this business without having to do that. Having said that, I know for a fact that a few gentlemen have cancelled me at the last minute or just not turned up and gone for a cheaper option.

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In the past I have had the 1hr booking made and an overnight from a regular come in and have got back to the 1hr to explain the situation and was given the blessing to cancel him and take up the more lucrative appointment.

As for the option of fun over being bored - I don't want to take many appointments a month and in all honesty, if I had the choice of very uninteresting 4hrs with Mr. Coffindodger, or 2hrs with Mr.Melt City, I'd rather cancel on Mr Coffindodger, take the risk of being called unprofessional and have a bloody good time on the Melt City appointment.

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In the past I have had the 1hr booking made and an overnight from a regular come in and have got back to the 1hr to explain the situation and was given the blessing to cancel him and take up the more lucrative appointment.

As for the option of fun over being bored - I don't want to take many appointments a month and in all honesty, if I had the choice of very uninteresting 4hrs with Mr. Coffindodger, or 2hrs with Mr.Melt City, I'd rather cancel on Mr Coffindodger, take the risk of being called unprofessional and have a bloody good time on the Melt City appointment.

Thanks be to god somebody is prepared to acknowledge there is something more to a client than merely being a, clean, well mannered , faceless envelope !

* goes off to check when next in the Aberdeen area ! *

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Thanks be to god somebody is prepared to acknowledge there is something more to a client than merely being a, clean, well mannered , faceless envelope !

* goes off to check when next in the Aberdeen area ! *

I have been tempted to do this but what happens if Mr Melt writes a report, and Mr Coffin sees such a thing and posts on a forum that you cancelled for someone else. Not going to install confidence in a booking for others.

There also aren't many people I see that I wouldn't mind seeing in preference to another. All are pretty interesting, although there might be one or two!

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I have driven over 100 miles to be gazumped before with no back up plans and blue balls.

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I have driven over 100 miles to be gazumped before with no back up plans and blue balls.

How do you know you were gazumped?

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A couple or so years ago I booked a lady with lots of positive P.N. reports. I spoke to her myself & requested the £120 an hour girl friend experience service(to which she agreed) rather than the £160 an hour Porn star service. I booked her for 11.30 the following morning & she asked me to confirm when I had got to London (I live in Bucks) the following morning. I phoned her that morning only to speak to her rather abrupt maid who said that the lady was now booked until 12.30 & she asked what service I had booked. I told her the £120 service when the maid said that she did not do that service anymore. I told the maid that I had spoken to the lady only the evening before when she told me the £120 service was o.k. The maid then replied to the effect that the lady should never have offered the £120 service. I was furious having travelled to London specifically to see this lady. There was no way I was going to be gazumped in that fashion. I can't believe this lady had so many positive P.N. reports. I tried to publish one myself pointing out what had happened but it was rejected on the grounds that no money had passed hands. With respect, this is where IMHO, the P.N. system fails. Of course I could have put in my report that a certain sum of money i.e. my travelling expenses had been incurred, but I was not prepared to say that this money went to the lady concerned.

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A couple or so years ago I booked a lady with lots of positive P.N. reports. I spoke to her myself & requested the £120 an hour girl friend experience service(to which she agreed) rather than the £160 an hour Porn star service. I booked her for 11.30 the following morning & she asked me to confirm when I had got to London (I live in Bucks) the following morning. I phoned her that morning only to speak to her rather abrupt maid who said that the lady was now booked until 12.30 & she asked what service I had booked. I told her the £120 service when the maid said that she did not do that service anymore. I told the maid that I had spoken to the lady only the evening before when she told me the £120 service was o.k. The maid then replied to the effect that the lady should never have offered the £120 service. I was furious having travelled to London specifically to see this lady. There was no way I was going to be gazumped in that fashion. I can't believe this lady had so many positive P.N. reports. I tried to publish one myself pointing out what had happened but it was rejected on the grounds that no money had passed hands. With respect, this is where IMHO, the P.N. system fails. Of course I could have put in my report that a certain sum of money i.e. my travelling expenses had been incurred, but I was not prepared to say that this money went to the lady concerned.

I agree regarding the money must change hands rule, it stops us reporting by FR on bad providers that behave like in your experience here, and those for example from my experiences who have lied about their pictures so the lady who opened the door i didnt fancy so walked off without paying or the ladies attitude was so bad that i had no interest in staying so again walked without paying. Like you i wasnt prepared to say money changed hands when it didnt.

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Then, again, given that WGs are in business to make money, if, hypothetically, an offer of an overnight @£1k from a regular clashes with my hour @ £150, the lady has, IMHO, a real problem.

She doesn't have a problem at all. It would be insane to cancel the overnight. If a WG explained that to me I would have no gripe at all with it.

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As for the option of fun over being bored - I don't want to take many appointments a month and in all honesty, if I had the choice of very uninteresting 4hrs with Mr. Coffindodger................

So, in effect, you are saying that us oldies are more boring than some young chap eh? Well my girl, thats you off my to-do list.

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I have only had to cancel a booking when my dog had a rather bad accident (5 months under the vet) and must say Punter was fine with it and called later to check on her progress. He was able to check progress as she still has horrific scarring. Must say he still visits to this day.

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So, in effect, you are saying that us oldies are more boring than some young chap eh? Well my girl, thats you off my to-do list.

Why presume Mr. Melt City is younger than Mr. Coffindodger ? It's not an age thing it's knowing how to push the buttons.

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I have been tempted to do this but what happens if Mr Melt writes a report, and Mr Coffin sees such a thing and posts on a forum that you cancelled for someone else. Not going to install confidence in a booking for others.

There also aren't many people I see that I wouldn't mind seeing in preference to another. All are pretty interesting, although there might be one or two!

At my rate of 1.5 FRs per year the chances of the coincidence of an FR going up would be very slight and far too far away to be meeting up with posters on forums. I'm pleasure driven rather than money driven and honest about it, if that put's men off booking me then I'll live with it.

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At my rate of 1.5 FRs per year the chances of the coincidence of an FR going up would be very slight and far too far away to be meeting up with posters on forums. I'm pleasure driven rather than money driven and honest about it, if that put's men off booking me then I'll live with it.

* where the f**k did I leave my business trip schedule ? * :D

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Thanks be to god somebody is prepared to acknowledge there is something more to a client than merely being a, clean, well mannered , faceless envelope !

Cumandgo, I remember every single client I have ever met, down to the conversations we may have had 5/6yrs previously, have had some of the most amazing sexual experiences and some truly surreal moments.

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Why presume Mr. Melt City is younger than Mr. Coffindodger ? It's not an age thing it's knowing how to push the buttons.

Because you called him Mr. Coffin - dodger.

Nice try at a save though!

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