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Why Will Some Guys Not Punt?

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I'm not aiming this at guys in a loving relationship who don't feel the need...but I have friends who are single, not getting much(any)girl-action, have the funds and who are straight (so they say).

I have spoken to some of them about escorts and showed them a few websites and they say they are interested but they always make excuses about not booking a girl. Of course, it's their choice not to, but as someone who knows that seeing escorts is usually amazing, I find it frustrating that I can't help them to enjoy the same experiences I am!

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maybe they have indulged but just not willing to disclose that information

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It takes quite a bit of nerve to go for your first punt.I well remember being fuelled with a considerable amount of "Dutch Courage". It gets easier as you do it more (a bit like riding a bike, really).

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There must be tens of thousands of guys who have visited wg's but not

told even their closest friends.

Of those who are not getting much or enough sex and are aware of the

ladies who offer their services... perhaps they just find the whole

notion of knocking on a door and doing the dirty business within minutes

of meeting... far too scary!

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Whether we like it or not, there is still a lot of social stigma associated with punting for both WGs and punters. It's hardly the sort of thing that a guy would normally boast about to his mates down the pub.

There's also the fact that it is generally expected that guys should be able to find girlfriends/partners. Despite most punters being older and in a relationship already, guys in this category don't have the same social pressure.

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Points well stated by Lolo and Poker Paul, just remember when you first started punting. I waited until after my wife passed away and then sometime after. I started punting because I was horny and wasn't and still not ready to commit to another permanment relationship. You have to look at some factors why others don't want to go the punting route.

1. Most men don't want others to believe the only way they can get laid is by paying for it.

2. Embarassment being found out by their friends or family members (Dads & Mates maybe understandying..but Mama & GFs may not).

3. The undeserved stigma attached to Wgs (risk of STDs and etc.)

4. Maybe they feel they can't perform to the levels they seen in porn films.

5. They are waiting for the right girl to come along.

I started punting at an older age..I going to live the rest of my life to it's fullest. If I had known at about puntin at a younger age, I would have jumped into the punting scene to gain experience.

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I'm not aiming this at guys in a loving relationship who don't feel the need...but I have friends who are single, not getting much(any)girl-action, have the funds and who are straight (so they say).

I have spoken to some of them about escorts and showed them a few websites and they say they are interested but they always make excuses about not booking a girl. Of course, it's their choice not to, but as someone who knows that seeing escorts is usually amazing, I find it frustrating that I can't help them to enjoy the same experiences I am!

One of my closest friends who knows i punt is always interested in hearing about my punting. He often says he is tempted to see someone but he never goes beyond this as far as i know.

My view is if people show an interest tell them about your own experiences and leave it at that. If they really want to proceed further they will say so or do it and not tell you.

Others i know are interested in hearing about punting but their pride stops them from paying for sex in such a direct manner as punting. All makes for some in depth discussions about punting.

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Some men still think it's illegal to pay for sex, others may be concerned about possible trafficking issues or the exploitation of vulnerable women.

(OK, we individual WGs know we're not trafficked or exploited, but how does a man tell?)

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A lot of my friends punt in their home countries (Eastern Europe), every time i visit them they try and tempt me and it has turned into a bit of laugh because they are so open about it. I have always refused saying that I would never see a WG. They would never believe I was trying to do it in the UK and when I do finally visit a WG I would never tell any of them. I would be to embarrassed to admit it even though they would think it was great.

Just because somebody says they don't/would never visit a WG it doesn't necessarily mean it's the truth. Some people (like myself) think it is a private matter and whilst it is fine to discuss it on a forum they would never talk about it to friends/family.

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Self respect? The stigma attached? Hygiene? Want to spend the money on more important things?

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Until 6 months ago, I would never have even thought about punting, despite being single. I was just enjoying the break after a 7 year relationship. Sex was not a requirement for me as I had too much work on and enjoyed my personal time! Plus, the thought of paying for sex never made any sense to me ever. I can understand why many do not bother to try it, because, for moralistic or mainstream people, its just too taboo to even consider. Having now tried it, I have no regrets and feel that everyone who feels the need should do so, providing they are responsible with themselves. I agree that its a very difficult decision to book that first punt, and perhaps too difficult for many men to make. In my limited experience I would say that its probably best not to start in the first place if you have any emotional or financial fears as punting is certainly not for everyone, and the first punt is rarely an experience to remember. After the first though, it gets better but can become addictive. Controlling your addiction can be difficult and very expensive, so I would say it’s a game that should only be played by the very strong willed, or very wealthy, and ideally the unattached! B)

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1. Most men don't want others to believe the only way they can get laid is by paying for it.

I think this is the key point. For me it's a no brainer. I am over 50. I do not want a relationship. I know where to find girls who are not illegally trafficked! I enjoy sex. I am single. I could go on.

I know that the vast majority of ladies are not supporting a drug addiction. Shock horror! - apparently some girls working as secretaries are doing so to support a drug habit - so let's make secretarial work illegal!

However, I have only told 1 friend and only because he had previously told me his brother and his best mate were punters and his cousin owned an escort agency.

I'm not in the least embarrassed by the fact I punt but I know that many people would look at me differently, and wrongly believe that I support pimping, drug dependency, trafficking, etc. How wrong they all are. Punters are probably more against pimps, drug dealers, and traffickers than anyone else. However the media, our education system, our religions, our traditions, and culture have shaped us to believe that sex is not something that should be paid for. However, it's OK to buy a girl drinks all night, or a meal, or a present, or a lift home, or cinema tickets, as long as there is something to act as a cover for what is the real deal.

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Nobody in my civvy world knows that I punt and that's the way I intend it to stay. Therefore I assume the same will apply to friends of the OP. He could have dozens of friends who punt but he will never know.

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Low social status in punting, sadly. Just the way it is.

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Low social status in punting, sadly. Just the way it is.

Who gives a fuck what anyone else thinks ?

We all have freedom of choice in our lives, and EVERYONE has their vice!

I dont consider punting to be low, desperate, or immoral > its just an expensive hobby that's not for everyone.....

Why worry about it..... unless of course one is married or decieving someone's trust ! B)

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However the media, our education system, our religions, our traditions, and culture have shaped us to believe that sex is not something that should be paid for. However, it's OK to buy a girl drinks all night, or a meal, or a present, or a lift home, or cinema tickets, as long as there is something to act as a cover for what is the real deal.

I wouldn't spend money on a girl because I wanted something in return. And I wouldn't let a girl use for me money either.

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"Baldrick, deny everything"

You tell someone else a secret and it's not a secret anymore.

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I think this is the key point. For me it's a no brainer. I am over 50. I do not want a relationship. I know where to find girls who are not illegally trafficked! I enjoy sex. I am single. I could go on.

I know that the vast majority of ladies are not supporting a drug addiction. Shock horror! - apparently some girls working as secretaries are doing so to support a drug habit - so let's make secretarial work illegal!

However, I have only told 1 friend and only because he had previously told me his brother and his best mate were punters and his cousin owned an escort agency.

I'm not in the least embarrassed by the fact I punt but I know that many people would look at me differently, and wrongly believe that I support pimping, drug dependency, trafficking, etc. How wrong they all are. Punters are probably more against pimps, drug dealers, and traffickers than anyone else. However the media, our education system, our religions, our traditions, and culture have shaped us to believe that sex is not something that should be paid for. However, it's OK to buy a girl drinks all night, or a meal, or a present, or a lift home, or cinema tickets, as long as there is something to act as a cover for what is the real deal.

Good one! :D

You're right in that nearly all other people would look at you in a completely different light if they knew you punted. Apart perhaps from the high end escort end of the spectrum (and I mean you were a high roller with very expensive tastes in escorts), it's perceived to be very seedy by most people outside of our little world.

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Good one! :D

You're right in that nearly all other people would look at you in a completely different light if they knew you punted. Apart perhaps from the high end escort end of the spectrum (and I mean you were a high roller with very expensive tastes in escorts), it's perceived to be very seedy by most people outside of our little world.

Cheers pvcman. In a way I'm thinking about the perception of the non punting world - "long may it continue!". If 90% of the population punted instead of 10%, or whatever, then guys over 50 like me wouldn't be able to compete for these lovely ladies!.

The nightclubs and bars for people in their 20s are a much more level playing field. We are lucky in our little world - not having this "barrier" to punting, means that we are able to punch above our weight in terms of the sexual partners we get.

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Cheers pvcman. In a way I'm thinking about the perception of the non punting world - "long may it continue!". If 90% of the population punted instead of 10%, or whatever, then guys over 50 like me wouldn't be able to compete for these lovely ladies!.

The nightclubs and bars for people in their 20s are a much more level playing field. We are lucky in our little world - not having this "barrier" to punting, means that we are able to punch above our weight in terms of the sexual partners we get.

Dont knock your age too much QTM ! Those in their 20's will be older before they know it [if their Livers can take it !].... that said I was in a club at the weekend, and I dont think I am too old in my 40's. I dont think its just WGs who prefer older guys - even if we are the 10%'s B)

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Who gives a fuck what anyone else thinks ?

People who have something to lose.

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People who have something to lose.

We all must have something to lose.It may just be our cash or credit cards or it may be more important such as our reputations or the esteem in which we are held by our peers.

Some of us may also lose our marriages, which is probably the hardest one to take.

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Whether we like it or not, there is still a lot of social stigma associated with punting for both WGs and punters. It's hardly the sort of thing that a guy would normally boast about to his mates down the pub.

There's also the fact that it is generally expected that guys should be able to find girlfriends/partners. Despite most punters being older and in a relationship already, guys in this category don't have the same social pressure.

A couple of years back I actually overheard a discussion in a local pub between a group of fishermen / seafaring types about the merits of various local parlours and the girls therein.

I didn't join in but it was interesting listening to them as I knew exactly what and who they were talking about.

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I guess I am one of these guys. I can only give my feelings and speculate to others.

I guess we are all different and come from different unbringings and experiences that form how we behave.

There is an element of embarassment and nerves. My situation is a little more complicated, but there is a social stigma involved in seeing an escort, a judgement of both yourself (and on yourself) and the lady involved. I think for some there is also a respect and moral issue. That is not to say I see things as moral or immoral in relation to escorting (reading posts here has helped), but I suspect many do or have had an upbringing which has installed a different moral code. I'm not saying one is right or wrong, but they differ.

In recent times I have thought yes men have sexual urges, but what brings us above other species is the ability to defer biological needs for legal or moral conventions we build as a society. Thus, isn't in some ways seeing an escort giving into a base desire, that which makes us human, yet also giving into a desire which we can (and according to some upbringings should) be against or resist for the sake of moralistic or respectful conventions to another human being, e.g not to objectify women, not to be selfish for soley our own needs, etc.

Then I also see concerns about how addictive punting could be. Could it be an excuse away from forming or dealing with other relationships/situations?

Ok, maybe I think too much, but that is my truth really. A battle between biology and thought in many ways. For me until I feel comfortable I have resolved both (or all) issues into one, it is difficult to make a choice or first step.

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I honestly don't think that this would be frowned upon as much as some of you think!

Taking away the obvious, that the girl isn't trafficked or pimped, a druggie or seedily standing on street corners, then I don't think much of sociery would be that bothered by a man paying for the company and sexual favours of a woman. A woman who had made her own choices and doing it of her own free will.

I think what most people see as seedy is the circumstances surrounding some of these situations. Uusually a middle-aged,probably married man paying for sex with a much younger(often) woman. I think most people would perceive this as perverted. A man paying for sexual services of a woman of a similar age, if he not committed himself, would probably not concern to many people. Likewise, a young man seeking attractive escorts would probably be 'egged on' by friends. Ok, maybe there would be those who would disagree with actually paying, but he would be unlikely to be seen as a perv.

Look at the thousands of me who go on lads holidays or stag weekends to Amsterdam every year? That is seen as going off to have some fun and I have never heard anyone say its perverted. People open discuss going to Amsterdam and have a joke about it.

These are only my thoughts, of course and I have nothing to back this up :)

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