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Given that SPs hourly rates vary from £50 to over £250, how do these rates compare with other professions rates?

Google suggests Electicians, Plumbers and other trades £25 to £50/hr.

Labourers, gardeners see to be in the £6 to £15 range.

Professionals, who knows? £50 to £100/hour?

So even the mid range rate for an SP would be as high, if not higher than a Solicitor or other professional person?

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But your average solicitor, plumber etc in a regular job can bill for £40 hours per week, or more if he is greedy.

A WG can only bill the hours she works, and if the phone doesn't ring, then no pennies in the piggy bank that day.

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Given that SPs hourly rates vary from £50 to over £250, how do these rates compare with other professions rates?

Google suggests Electicians, Plumbers and other trades £25 to £50/hr.

Labourers, gardeners see to be in the £6 to £15 range.

Professionals, who knows? £50 to £100/hour?

So even the mid range rate for an SP would be as high, if not higher than a Solicitor or other professional person?

Your probably right about it being higher than a solicitor or other professionals but they aren't giving a personal and intimate service. I have said it before there is a difference in selling your body to any other trade.

Shelly

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Your probably right about it being higher than a solicitor or other professionals but they aren't giving a personal and intimate service. I have said it before there is a difference in selling your body to any other trade.

Shelly

Shelly, I have been reading about this.

If a solicitor trains for many years to give himself knowledge, when you use his services are you not taking an intimate thing from him, i.e. the knowledge in his mind. The same could be said when you buy a book, you are taking one of the most intimate things from a person, their thoughts, adventures or constructs.

All employees give up some control over their bodies during periods of employment. Is the mind less personal than the hand of a surgeon, or shelf stacker? How do you value sexual organs above or beyond these? How do you value differently between organs of the body?

I would love to know people's thoughts on this.

It would seem sex organs are "taboo" and this probably gives some differential. However, sex is also an emotional issue relating to the brain, not just "organs". However, isn't what remains taboo or not related to what society we live in? So the value comes not from anything other than the taboo status in a society?

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Shelly, I have been reading about this.

If a solicitor trains for many years to give himself knowledge, when you use his services are you not taking an intimate thing from him, i.e. the knowledge in his mind. The same could be said when you buy a book, you are taking one of the most intimate things from a person, their thoughts, adventures or constructs.

All employees give up some control over their bodies during periods of employment. Is the mind less personal than the hand of a surgeon, or shelf stacker? How do you value sexual organs above or beyond these? How do you value differently between organs of the body?

I would love to know people's thoughts on this.

It would seem sex organs are "taboo" and this probably gives some differential. However, sex is also an emotional issue relating to the brain, not just "organs". However, isn't what remains taboo or not related to what society we live in? So the value comes not from anything other than the taboo status in a society?

I hear what you are saying nntt and yes other people can give an intimate service in the things you have named. However a professional escort in my mind offers far more ie mind body and soul. We are a lot of things to a lot of people ie confidant-counsellor to name but a few. So many of us dont hold predjudice and dont judge a book by its cover and I personally feel a professional escort is worth thier weight in gold and will always try to give 100%.

Shelly

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Shelly, I have been reading about this.

If a solicitor trains for many years to give himself knowledge, when you use his services are you not taking an intimate thing from him, i.e. the knowledge in his mind. The same could be said when you buy a book, you are taking one of the most intimate things from a person, their thoughts, adventures or constructs.

All employees give up some control over their bodies during periods of employment. Is the mind less personal than the hand of a surgeon, or shelf stacker? How do you value sexual organs above or beyond these? How do you value differently between organs of the body?

I would love to know people's thoughts on this.

It would seem sex organs are "taboo" and this probably gives some differential. However, sex is also an emotional issue relating to the brain, not just "organs". However, isn't what remains taboo or not related to what society we live in? So the value comes not from anything other than the taboo status in a society?

A WG is seeing strangers often on their own who are there for sexual motives, this is a risk and in a hopefully only tiny percentage this stranger gets violent or worse meaning there is real potential personal danger to the lady involved including being raped, assaulted or robbed. Stalkers are sadly also a hazard who can make a WGs life hell as i know from a lady who suffered this. I of course accept a policemen, firemen, ambulancemen and soldier among others are also in potential danger. They have a back-up network designed to help them cope with their jobs though. A WG often works alone and unlike on here some dont know other WGs. They work in isolation on their own.

There is no getting away from the fact that punting is a guy paying for a sexual desire he has towards a particular human being and as its human to human i dont view it like buying everyday items, its uniquely personal and the prices reflect that in my view.

Like some professions a WG charges what she thinks she can get or what she feels she is worth, its up to the punter to judge if she is worth this or not.

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A girl will charge what she thinks is appropriate and if that is more or less than an electrician or solicitor then so be it. If the original post was trying to establish the relative worth of WG's to other professions then IMHO I don't think we'll ever get consensus on this! After all there are many council employees earning more than the PM and many footballers earning more than than them - worth it or not? It's down to the individual to decide. Very hard to compare any job directly with another and make a judgement on value or worth. We all pay the going rate for services of all kinds and if we don't like it we leave the job undone or maybe do it ourselves. Of course if this applied to WGs' services it brings an interesting picture to mind!

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Given that SPs hourly rates vary from £50 to over £250, how do these rates compare with other professions rates?

Google suggests Electicians, Plumbers and other trades £25 to £50/hr.

Labourers, gardeners see to be in the £6 to £15 range.

Professionals, who knows? £50 to £100/hour?

So even the mid range rate for an SP would be as high, if not higher than a Solicitor or other professional person?

Why do we even have this debate about 'Going Rates'? You are comparing Apples and Oranges.

Service Providers in any field will charge what they can or what they determine they are willing to take in order to provide that particular service.

It is a market, if you don't like the price go somewhere else, but don't expect the same level of service. Mileage May Vary.

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All employees give up some control over their bodies during periods of employment. Is the mind less personal than the hand of a surgeon, or shelf stacker? How do you value sexual organs above or beyond these? How do you value differently between organs of the body?

I would love to know people's thoughts on this.

It would seem sex organs are "taboo" and this probably gives some differential. However, sex is also an emotional issue relating to the brain, not just "organs". However, isn't what remains taboo or not related to what society we live in? So the value comes not from anything other than the taboo status in a society?

Brilliant post nntt. I agree that we have been conditioned to think that sexual organs are different. However, some people haven't fallen victim to this. For them, the enjoyment of sex is a wholly natural pleasure without religious, moral, or cultural taboos hanging over it. Or for others, it's a business, and they choose to earn £150 per hour this way rather than £6 per hour doing a menial job for example.

I would imagine that for many people, being a toilet cleaner, for instance, is more demeaning than having sex. It would be for me. The last job I had required me to make people redundant to keep costs down and profits up. I gave up the job because it was against my morals to put young families breadwinners onto the dole queue. However there are people for whom such a job would not bother them, just as there are some ladies who actually enjoy sex (honestly Harriet!) and are exercising their freedom of choice as ratified by a UN treaty (CEDAW).

I think we may draw too big a line between those who sell sex and those who buy it. The actual act itself is the same. We both have sex with strangers, we give and receive oral and we have intercourse. Is it really relevant who is paying and who is selling - there is no difference in terms of the intimacy or the acts that take place. It's not like being a drug dealer where it's a 1-way process. The WG and the punter are sharing the same experience. I am a buyer because I am getting a better quality than I would otherwise achieve. If I was capable of providing this service, then I would have no qualms about being a seller.

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But your average solicitor, plumber etc in a regular job can bill for £40 hours per week, or more if he is greedy.

A WG can only bill the hours she works, and if the phone doesn't ring, then no pennies in the piggy bank that day.

So so so so wrong. A good time recording solicitor will probably manage about 30 chargeable hours a week out of about 40/45 worked. Most of my clients have charge our rates of between £120 and £240 per hour. Ok that sounds a lot so...factor in commercial rent and business rates, staff salaries, professional indemnity insurance, and there is roughly 60% of your hourly rate already gone.

Plumbers and the like charge about £80/£100 in London but will probably only manage about 20 hours a week at those rates as much time will be spent travelling and the bulk of the work will be done at lower rates or on a fxed contract.

Girls charging £200+ per hour, assuming they see a client a day for five days a week, will be far better off than the average solicitor or plumber.

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Your probably right about it being higher than a solicitor or other professionals but they aren't giving a personal and intimate service. I have said it before there is a difference in selling your body to any other trade.

Shelly

Good point Shelly. Nor do they have to face the emotional involvement, the possibility of being outed, nor the risk of catching diseases.

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Shelly, I have been reading about this.

If a solicitor trains for many years to give himself knowledge, when you use his services are you not taking an intimate thing from him, i.e. the knowledge in his mind. The same could be said when you buy a book, you are taking one of the most intimate things from a person, their thoughts, adventures or constructs.

All employees give up some control over their bodies during periods of employment. Is the mind less personal than the hand of a surgeon, or shelf stacker? How do you value sexual organs above or beyond these? How do you value differently between organs of the body?

I would love to know people's thoughts on this.

It would seem sex organs are "taboo" and this probably gives some differential. However, sex is also an emotional issue relating to the brain, not just "organs". However, isn't what remains taboo or not related to what society we live in? So the value comes not from anything other than the taboo status in a society?

I said this to Richard Branson once (seriously), 'if the toilets don't get cleaned, then no one will be happy, so the person doing this cleaning is as important as the MD, CEO and shareholders' He agreed.

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I hear what you are saying nntt and yes other people can give an intimate service in the things you have named. However a professional escort in my mind offers far more ie mind body and soul. We are a lot of things to a lot of people ie confidant-counsellor to name but a few. So many of us dont hold predjudice and dont judge a book by its cover and I personally feel a professional escort is worth thier weight in gold and will always try to give 100%.

Shelly

Not that I could admit it to my Wife, friends or relatives, but through the ladies that I visit, this and other sites, I have 'met' some of the most enlightened, open, honest and intelligent people it has been my priveledge to meet.

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A girl will charge what she thinks is appropriate and if that is more or less than an electrician or solicitor then so be it. If the original post was trying to establish the relative worth of WG's to other professions then IMHO I don't think we'll ever get consensus on this! After all there are many council employees earning more than the PM and many footballers earning more than than them - worth it or not? It's down to the individual to decide. Very hard to compare any job directly with another and make a judgement on value or worth. We all pay the going rate for services of all kinds and if we don't like it we leave the job undone or maybe do it ourselves. Of course if this applied to WGs' services it brings an interesting picture to mind!

'Worth'.

I started this just out of curiosity and it seems to have raised quite a few differing thoughts and views on what SPs and the trade brings to our lives.

We could, I guess, change to management speak and ask how SPs 'add value'?

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The actual act itself is the same. a seller.

On a relationship and emotional front, I have said to two of my ex partners and one good lady friend, all distraught about having had a number of sexual relationships, 'what's the big deal, he's (sorry), spunked in your cunt'.

It is an act. In the case of the man, possibly quite a selfish act, in the case of the lady, a very giving act.

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It is an act. In the case of the man, possibly quite a selfish act, in the case of the lady, a very giving act.

One could argue, quite logically, that in a traditional GFE type encounter, that both parties are behaving selfishly for their own sexual gratification, or alternatively, that both are giving sexual pleasure to the other. I know many of the men on here enjoy giving oral and genuinely wish that their sexual partner enjoys the encounter as much as they do.

nntt raised the point that if we remove the taboo associated with sexual organs, then is giving a sexual service more emotional than giving up your principles and morals as many people in traditional employment have to do.

One WG I discussed this with said she views a cock as an appendage "a bit like a finger" as she put it. For her, she said, there was no difference in sucking either! I guess that was her way of dealing with it. What she had done was disassociate the sexual organ from these taboos - it was just another part of the body.

By the way I make these points and I know they can be challenged, but it's an interesting debate.

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Given that SPs hourly rates vary from £50 to over £250, how do these rates compare with other professions rates?

Google suggests Electicians, Plumbers and other trades £25 to £50/hr.

Labourers, gardeners see to be in the £6 to £15 range.

Professionals, who knows? £50 to £100/hour?

So even the mid range rate for an SP would be as high, if not higher than a Solicitor or other professional person?

Opening a big can of worms here my man.....I've been punting over 15 yrs and from my experiance so far prices do not reflected the quality of service.Infact I was talking to a more experienced punter on here the other day and he agreed 100%.I just happened to have one of my best punts to date which was only £40 per hr,it's a 50/50 toss up.Only trend I see is posh area example (Kensington )=expensive punt....rough area (hounslow)=cheaper punt.We all have a choice...go visit what you consider a reasonable priced WG,or cheap WG,or go visit what is supposed to be a high class WG more expensive.

WG's have a choice to price what they like,it is their own business their running and their bodies and if some of them are charging £250 per hr and getting paid that more power to them,but I know where be spending my money.

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I think the short answer is girls charge what they can get away with, there are many factors into working out their pricing, and as long as the girls phones ring in relation to what they are charging to what they wish to earn then they will price themselves accordingly.

These knob-heads that presume that a girls phone is dusty just because they are out of their price range could not be further wrong, yes of course you lower it by a few quid then you are in a larger catchment area, but if you are busy enough for what you require then why bother?

Girls do this job because it is so well paid and for many because it is the easy option, it is the easy option because so many guys are genuinely a pleasure to know, it is the small percentage that make you realise just why it is 'that' well paid. Of course I am speaking as a more 'mature' escort, the young ones that many are so fond of will not begin to entertain guys old enough to be their fathers if their price tag was not so high, it is not a case of the mature escorts being less picky to get business either it is simply because they have the maturity to be able to find attractive qualities in people beyond the obvious - looks.

Take away the great pay scale and will the girls still do the job? Possibly many will as one of the biggest draw cards is freedom of time we do not need to be working many hours per week to be able to have a nice standard of living to do what we wish (hear that softwatlad?)

The short and curlies is anyone can afford to punt on whatever wage as long as they are not hocked up to the eyeballs and have a job, as there is someone for everybody's budget. The majority in life window shops and sighs 'I wish' punting is no different.

S x

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Paying for the services of a WG are more akin to buying a luxury item than a service such as those offered by a solicitor or electrician, in that your choice is based on individual requirements and personal taste. OWO and sex etc can be better enjoyed if the girl providing them fits your ideal type, whereas wiring in a shower is the same from any electrician as is the solicitor's advice or signature. For this reason certain WGs who have something unique about them, for example a Cheryl Cole lookalike, will charge more not just because they can but because the market dictates that they must.

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I said this to Richard Branson once (seriously), 'if the toilets don't get cleaned, then no one will be happy, so the person doing this cleaning is as important as the MD, CEO and shareholders' He agreed.

So did he then get his hand down into the 's' bend ?

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So did he then get his hand down into the 's' bend ?

's' as in where the brown stuff sits?

No. I didn't get the job, either (toilet cleaner or other).

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So so so so wrong. A good time recording solicitor will probably manage about 30 chargeable hours a week out of about 40/45 worked. Most of my clients have charge our rates of between £120 and £240 per hour. Ok that sounds a lot so...factor in commercial rent and business rates, staff salaries, professional indemnity insurance, and there is roughly 60% of your hourly rate already gone.

Plumbers and the like charge about £80/£100 in London but will probably only manage about 20 hours a week at those rates as much time will be spent travelling and the bulk of the work will be done at lower rates or on a fxed contract.

Girls charging £200+ per hour, assuming they see a client a day for five days a week, will be far better off than the average solicitor or plumber.

This is correct HOWEVER a solicitor will rise through the ranks in his field, and carry on in this line of work until he retires in his 60s(or earlier if he is able). A WG on the otherhand will not enjoy such longevity, and when she does return to the job market her prospects may not be great since she does not have references and will have a large gap in her CV - during this time a solicitor would have been upping his game somewhat. There is also the fact that a WG will also find it difficult to access financial services, a mortgage may be impossible as well as lack of sick pay or occupational pension. These are all massive reason why the rewards have to be very high, ie she must make her money when she can. I expect if it was a job for life where the good income persisted until old age, with less risk, where banks would lend to those with 'Escort' on their income statements and employers would accept 'Escort' on a CV, and recognised as an acceptable occupation then rates would probably be lower and it would be a fair comparison.

This is BEFORE we've even started to look at the personal, intimate nature of the occupation.

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This is correct HOWEVER a solicitor will rise through the ranks in his field, and carry on in this line of work until he retires in his 60s(or earlier if he is able). A WG on the otherhand will not enjoy such longevity, and when she does return to the job market her prospects may not be great since she does not have references and will have a large gap in her CV - during this time a solicitor would have been upping his game somewhat. There is also the fact that a WG will also find it difficult to access financial services, a mortgage may be impossible as well as lack of sick pay or occupational pension. These are all massive reason why the rewards have to be very high, ie she must make her money when she can. I expect if it was a job for life where the good income persisted until old age, with less risk, where banks would lend to those with 'Escort' on their income statements and employers would accept 'Escort' on a CV, and recognised as an acceptable occupation then rates would probably be lower and it would be a fair comparison.

This is BEFORE we've even started to look at the personal, intimate nature of the occupation.

With your looks you would probably be able to carry on until 60, you certainly don't look mid thirties now. Glad to see you got home okay.

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I think the short answer is girls charge what they can get away with, there are many factors into working out their pricing, and as long as the girls phones ring in relation to what they are charging to what they wish to earn then they will price themselves accordingly.

These knob-heads that presume that a girls phone is dusty just because they are out of their price range could not be further wrong, yes of course you lower it by a few quid then you are in a larger catchment area, but if you are busy enough for what you require then why bother?

Girls do this job because it is so well paid and for many because it is the easy option, it is the easy option because so many guys are genuinely a pleasure to know, it is the small percentage that make you realise just why it is 'that' well paid. Of course I am speaking as a more 'mature' escort, the young ones that many are so fond of will not begin to entertain guys old enough to be their fathers if their price tag was not so high, it is not a case of the mature escorts being less picky to get business either it is simply because they have the maturity to be able to find attractive qualities in people beyond the obvious - looks.

Take away the great pay scale and will the girls still do the job? Possibly many will as one of the biggest draw cards is freedom of time we do not need to be working many hours per week to be able to have a nice standard of living to do what we wish (hear that softwatlad?)

The short and curlies is anyone can afford to punt on whatever wage as long as they are not hocked up to the eyeballs and have a job, as there is someone for everybody's budget. The majority in life window shops and sighs 'I wish' punting is no different.

S x

Sabrina is right - the rate is a market rate that has to be enough to attract the girls but not so much that they make them unaffordable to the sort of customers they want.

The interesting thing about escorting is that it does not always follow the normal law of supply and demand. The economist classify it as a luxry or superior good because in certain circumstances demand for the service will rise as the price rises. The book Freakonomics analyses the economics of prostitution in the US and cites the example of a women who wanted to do less meetings without reducung her income. So she raised her hourly rate. To her surpise she found even more punters wanting to visit.

This should not be too much of a surpise really. Punters do not have perfect knowledge of the women they are likely to visit and so tend to use price as an indication of value. I have been considering a girl charging £100 ph in London but have not visited her becuase I suspect she is not all she is cracked up to be because otherwise she would be charging the going rate of 150. I think it also explains why some girls who are able to charge £400-500 per hour. They are usually exceptionally beautiful but not 2 or 3 times so. And let's be honest I suspect their pussies feel pretty much the same from inside a condom. What is driving their price is often the vanity of punters who want the feeling that they are getting the best and the most expensive is the best.

Thank heavens for this site. It allows punters more information on which to make an informed choice and therefore a better deal for both parties.

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Good post Mercantile

I know that some guys are very suspicious of low rates, I've discussed this with clients old and new. Quite a few say they would wonder if something was wrong if I charged less than I do, whilst others would revel in seeing me for less.

It's a very difficult thing as as already said above there has to be significant reward otherwise ladies/WGs whatever you like to call them, just wouldn't be attracted. There is something very sexy about being able to command large sums of money in exchange for some loving!

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