misterm

Conned By Someone You've Seen Before

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I've just been scammed for the second time, yes I know scams are widespread especially on ** which I use due to selection, but unusually they've both been with people i've seen at least once before. First time there was a 2 year gap between the first booking (my first booking) and the con, the latest one I saw twice the last time being in November.

On both occasions I really enjoyed the first visits (normally 2h). I then decide to treat myself to an overnight. I pay the lady I get about 2 hours (first time this included sex, most recent just dinner) then they disappear (first time when I was in bath, second time fag break for escort)

I did make the mistake possibly off telling the second girl about the first (they wouldn't know each other very differnt areas). Maybe I'm coming across as if I've got a big sign attached which says 'mug'

Any ideas you have on the prevention of such things (yes I chcek fb, yes I search google for field reports) would be great. Would also be interested to hear how common or otherwise this is

MisterM

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Bummer. It genuinely sounds like you've just been really unlucky. The only other thing you could possibly do is to sign up to local punting boards in the areas where you punt, sometimes you pick up things by swapping PMs with other people that you don't from reading FRs? But I only say that for your own peace of mind, the real answer is that it's unlikely you'll get hit 3 times in a row!

I've heard of civilian dates doing a runner without warning on many occasions if the bloke is a bit dull, but not pros, they usually tell you to your face if they can't stick it out!

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Bummer. It genuinely sounds like you've just been really unlucky. The only other thing you could possibly do is to sign up to local punting boards in the areas where you punt, sometimes you pick up things by swapping PMs with other people that you don't from reading FRs? But I only say that for your own peace of mind, the real answer is that it's unlikely you'll get hit 3 times in a row!

I've heard of civilian dates doing a runner without warning on many occasions if the bloke is a bit dull, but not pros, they usually tell you to your face if they can't stick it out!

Well the 1st one at least had the decency to txt me to say she couldn't go through with it a few mins after running off, she gave a vaguely plausible reason. The latest one rather left me hanging (on an overnight is 5 mins peace for a fag break too much to ask, I don't think so) and no replies to txts.

There is always a bit of a lead up to overnighters for me, I think we exchanged like 30 txts on the day. All that time I can't help but think she might have been planning to do a runner.

It's quite possible that they do find me boring, but they would have found me the same on shorter bookings. I'd also say if either of them had said 'look I just can't continue with this booking' and gave me back all or part of the fee (I don't expect them to work for free),then that would be fine, but to abandon the booking and keep all the fee just ain't on.

Oh well I wasn't physically hurt, and nothing was stolen.Compared to those who get mugged I got off lightly on both occasions. One thing I have learnt though is that overnights are just to risky for me.

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I didn't mean to call you boring! As you said, they already knew what you're like from previous bookings and agreed to meet you, so it can't be that. Besides, being professionals they're not going to leg it just because you're not marriage and 2 children material. You just have crap luck.

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I wouldn't call it conned as such, but I met this really shrewd escort. I suspect she is highly intelligent, as well as highly attractive :P

Anyways her tactic is to do as little as possible, but come across as the best gfe imaginable.

I saw her as quite a challenge and booked again, only to be taken in by her charms for a second time :rolleyes:

Completely my fault, I'm a sucker for a good looking lady, and lose the power of competent speech B)

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To be fair I perhaps should have seen the latest one coming. She was off the unmentionable site due to someone saying her profile wasn't genuine (what she told me anyway, who knows really). She was definitely the same lady as before, I felt I knew her based on the 2 previous encounters.

I think maybe it's fair to say that the old mantra you see on investment products 'Past Performance is No Guarantee of Future Results' is true here too. People change and your in many ways paying for an illusion, an illusion which can be wonderful but still an illusion. Perhaps I should remember that the skills for the nice illusion can always be used for other things!

Oh well I know from reading on here I'm not the first to be scammed\taken adavanatge of.... probably won't be the last either

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I wouldn't call it conned as such, but I met this really shrewd escort. I suspect she is highly intelligent, as well as highly attractive :P

Anyways her tactic is to do as little as possible, but come across as the best gfe imaginable.

I saw her as quite a challenge and booked again, only to be taken in by her charms for a second time :rolleyes:

Completely my fault, I'm a sucker for a good looking lady, and lose the power of competent speech B)

I dunno I'd say arranging a booking of around 18 hours and leaving after around 2 is conning. Both women were undoubtably highly intelligent. I'd probably describe what happened as a long con(in order to rip of the 'mark' ie me, they offer a really good service in the hope of getting a bigger fee next time, when they feel they have reached a certain limit the trap is sprung

by shrewd I'd be thinking tactics such as, spending as long as possible chatting and eating, arriving a bit late then leaving a bit early (so 2 hours is actually closer to say 1.5). It's human nature to try and do your work in the easist way possible

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Sorry to hear of your bad experiences, doing a runner with the fee(which is what I presumed she did) isn't on at all. :angry:

BUT

30 texts?! Not sure who should be the one doing the runner. Is it not an odd sign that either of you had not much else to do? Some might consider that a warning. Feel free to correct me anyone. :blink:

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Sorry to hear of your bad experiences, doing a runner with the fee(which is what I presumed she did) isn't on at all. :angry:

BUT

30 texts?! Not sure who should be the one doing the runner. Is it not an odd sign that either of you had not much else to do? Some might consider that a warning. Feel free to correct me anyone. :blink:

Well this includes sent and received, organising timings, excuses as to why she was running late, progress txts and quite a bit of light hearted banter. But looking back on it she was keen on the txt chat maybe a bit too keen, will certainly bear that in mind

Yes both times it was doing a runner with fee

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Sorry to hear of your bad experiences, doing a runner with the fee(which is what I presumed she did) isn't on at all. :angry:

BUT

30 texts?! Not sure who should be the one doing the runner. Is it not an odd sign that either of you had not much else to do? Some might consider that a warning. Feel free to correct me anyone. :blink:

30 Texts, I agree 100% there Ruth, endless texting is indicative of idiots, human speech can convey all essential details of a meeting within 1 to 2 minutes, it takes an anwful lot longer to write and send 30 texts.

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I take it that you have posted Field Reports on here for both these "ladies"?

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30 texts!!! Each to their own!

There is always a bit of a lead up to overnighters for me, I think we exchanged like 30 txts on the day. All that time I can't help but think she might have been planning to do a runner.

Being boring is no reason to con someone. And again, not to suggest you are boring! You just got unlucky twice. It seems you've had overnights that didn't end in a scam. But two where it did sounds like crap.

xxx

Pru

It's quite possible that they do find me boring, but they would have found me the same on shorter bookings. I'd also say if either of them had said 'look I just can't continue with this booking' and gave me back all or part of the fee (I don't expect them to work for free),then that would be fine, but to abandon the booking and keep all the fee just ain't on.

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I take it that you have posted Field Reports on here for both these "ladies"?

I've actually not done this (wouldn't be allowed anyway), I've considered posting warnings but have avoided 1 big reason

The ladies can change numbers and working names, leading to not a lot of adverse effect on them vs the woman know my real name which is distinctive enough to id me and cause me grief and I don't fancy changing names

but one bit of advice I'd give anyone is don't rely on past performance

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I've just been scammed for the second time, yes I know scams are widespread especially on ** which I use due to selection, but unusually they've both been with people i've seen at least once before. First time there was a 2 year gap between the first booking (my first booking) and the con, the latest one I saw twice the last time being in November.

On both occasions I really enjoyed the first visits (normally 2h). I then decide to treat myself to an overnight. I pay the lady I get about 2 hours (first time this included sex, most recent just dinner) then they disappear (first time when I was in bath, second time fag break for escort)

I did make the mistake possibly off telling the second girl about the first (they wouldn't know each other very differnt areas). Maybe I'm coming across as if I've got a big sign attached which says 'mug'

Any ideas you have on the prevention of such things (yes I chcek fb, yes I search google for field reports) would be great. Would also be interested to hear how common or otherwise this is

MisterM

I was recently scammed by someone..he booked me in January and had to cancel..then booked me in February and I expected him to cancel again as now he had 2 names on the other site with a negative. He emailed me to say he had seen me before and when he turned up recalled how we had last met. Turned out I had seen him last year, he wanted to see me before meeting me, had then cancelled then turned up with flowers, then got a phone call half way through and got called back to work - asking for a part refund - which he got, but it left a sour taste in my mouth (at the time I did think the phone call was a set-up). Anyways, he turned up for recent booking, forgetting his money, and asked if he could got to atm after to collect, because I had seen him before I thought that would be okay, he offered to leave his mobile and I joked how it was an old one and that he could easily scam me. I told him I would walk to atm after as was going that way anyways. Afterwards he came up with the story he was meeting his mum there as she had been to the doctors, (hello), and I thought right he is doing a fast one, go for it, I cannot be ersed with folks like you. So off he went and didn't return. And suffice to say his mobile was old one with no sim, lol, but I do have his no from previous booking. At the end of the day I let him scam me, and thought, well, nothing off my back, looser...trust no-one ;) x

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I take it that you have posted Field Reports on here for both these "ladies"?

Indeed. Those that cheat punters like this should be named and shamed so others who read FRs are made aware.

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Indeed. Those that cheat punters like this should be named and shamed so others who read FRs are made aware.

I cant name and shame mines, as he deleted his profile from the other site, sly one ;) x.

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I was recently scammed by someone..he booked me in January and had to cancel..then booked me in February and I expected him to cancel again as now he had 2 names on the other site with a negative. He emailed me to say he had seen me before and when he turned up recalled how we had last met. Turned out I had seen him last year, he wanted to see me before meeting me, had then cancelled then turned up with flowers, then got a phone call half way through and got called back to work - asking for a part refund - which he got, but it left a sour taste in my mouth (at the time I did think the phone call was a set-up). Anyways, he turned up for recent booking, forgetting his money, and asked if he could got to atm after to collect, because I had seen him before I thought that would be okay, he offered to leave his mobile and I joked how it was an old one and that he could easily scam me. I told him I would walk to atm after as was going that way anyways. Afterwards he came up with the story he was meeting his mum there as she had been to the doctors, (hello), and I thought right he is doing a fast one, go for it, I cannot be ersed with folks like you. So off he went and didn't return. And suffice to say his mobile was old one with no sim, lol, but I do have his no from previous booking. At the end of the day I let him scam me, and thought, well, nothing off my back, looser...trust no-one ;) x

really can't see the point in that charade how many escorts would fall for the forgot money routine... I'd be worried about getting the cluestick used :)

I've seen some of the warnings directed at escorts and I'm certainly aware that you are as much the victim of scams as the clients. yeah I've had my pride hurt and waved goodbye to a fair bit of money, but I've never feared for my safety

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Well the 1st one at least had the decency to txt me to say she couldn't go through with it a few mins after running off, she gave a vaguely plausible reason. The latest one rather left me hanging (on an overnight is 5 mins peace for a fag break too much to ask, I don't think so) and no replies to txts.

There is always a bit of a lead up to overnighters for me, I think we exchanged like 30 txts on the day. All that time I can't help but think she might have been planning to do a runner.

It's quite possible that they do find me boring, but they would have found me the same on shorter bookings. I'd also say if either of them had said 'look I just can't continue with this booking' and gave me back all or part of the fee (I don't expect them to work for free),then that would be fine, but to abandon the booking and keep all the fee just ain't on.

Oh well I wasn't physically hurt, and nothing was stolen.Compared to those who get mugged I got off lightly on both occasions. One thing I have learnt though is that overnights are just to risky for me.

You were ripped off, the exact term doesnt matter, you in good faith paid for a service you didnt receive, as long as you were respectful and clean with the agreed cash you have fulfilled your end of the deal, being boring isnt relevant.

I have been ripped off myself and know how it feels, all i can advise is book a lady who is very well reviewed on here by FR and/or on this forum, there are no guarantees in punting but this is the nearest you will get to having one in my experience. I wish you luck. :)

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I cant name and shame mines, as he deleted his profile from the other site, sly one ;) x.

Sounds a right bastard. You could circulate his description though couldnt you. Punters like this do genuine ones no favours.

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I thought I would sound like my usual grumply old woman self if I said as much! Especially when, as in this case, the meeting's been set up, but the guy starts to bombard with so many texts. If he had to pay for them, would he still send so many? Alarm bells go off in my mind and I do end up cancelling.

And for the lady that can find the time to reply to so many texts when she should be resting ahead of the overnight appointment? I guess she knew she would be having an early night. Or maybe she started counting payment for her time spent replying to so many texts.

30 Texts, I agree 100% there Ruth, endless texting is indicative of idiots, human speech can convey all essential details of a meeting within 1 to 2 minutes, it takes an anwful lot longer to write and send 30 texts.

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Texting, for me, is simply a means of sending and receiving a short message such as "Meet at 21.00 at M1 2AR. If I am planning on spending 8 to 10 hours with someone I have never met I would want 2 or 3 phone conversations. If nothing else to check the competence in English (or any other common language).

Conversations give you so much more than just an exchange of information.

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I thought I would sound like my usual grumply old woman self if I said as much! Especially when, as in this case, the meeting's been set up, but the guy starts to bombard with so many texts. If he had to pay for them, would he still send so many? Alarm bells go off in my mind and I do end up cancelling.

And for the lady that can find the time to reply to so many texts when she should be resting ahead of the overnight appointment? I guess she knew she would be having an early night. Or maybe she started counting payment for her time spent replying to so many texts.

as mentioned before (not sure if post has been approved yet) the 30 is total sent and recieved not number I sent. I certainly didn't set out to be a txt pest in fact I cut many an exchange short as I was worried that what should have been a couple of txt exchage turned into quite a few more. Quite a lot of the txts were after I had arrived and given the room number. She asked when to meet up, I thought this was already agreed, txts from each other when we were on way txts enquiring where she was (she was about 2 hours late)

I do see where you coming from generally though, I'm paying for an agreed amount of time, not an agreed amount and a license to waste the escorts time

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So, she was two hours late and didn't stay? Was she also late for the two hour booking? Did you actually get your two hours during that booking?

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Pru

She asked when to meet up, I thought this was already agreed, txts from each other when we were on way txts enquiring where she was (she was about 2 hours late)

I do see where you coming from generally though, I'm paying for an agreed amount of time, not an agreed amount and a license to waste the escorts time

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So, she was two hours late and didn't stay? Was she also late for the two hour booking? Did you actually get your two hours during that booking?

xxx

Pru

she seemed to work on the basis of agreeing a time in principle, and adjust it to mutually suit. I would checkin in plenty of time, she'd then let me know when she left. She was always fairly good at arriving at about the right time. Duration was always about right aswell (to within about 10 - 20 mins)

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Just realised 2 warning signs that I was rather oblivious too

- on both occasions I received unsolicited txts, yes I had vaguely indicated in the little after the event email that I hoped to see them again. Getting a txt even if it says happy new year, should perhaps have put me on gaurd

- on last occasion the lady turned up with just a A5ish sized handbag, fair enough for a short booking, but for an long overnight? That should definitely have set alarm bells off ,with purse keys and phone (not to mention general handbag junk) where was she going to put sleepwear and a change of clothes.

I also suspect that being late (both were) may have been a ruse to throw me off guard (ie they focused my brain on them being late, in the hope that the relief of them turning up would be forefront in my mind)

Have to say both very clever sly ladies, they seem to know exactly what buttons to push.I really have to get into a colder more critical frame of mind next time, not too much to spoil things, but enough to spot the signs

Thanks everyone for listening so far, nice to have an outlet for this kind of thing

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