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Attracting Undesirable Clients

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I've just read Cherry threadwhere she said that after offering anal services she thinks she attracts wrong kind of clientelle.

I've no idea about it, as I never offered it, but the question is: Does some advertised services draws the clients to the Wgs, they rather not encounter?

Here is a few of mine:

1) Foot Fetish. Attracts massive amount of timewasters. In my experience 100% (Not ever any booking materialised who made an appointment for this service, or including it)

2) Role Play. If you put on your website that you open for suggestions for various role plays, then expect long winded, incredibly boring scenarios emails from the fantasists. Tiresome and dull to read, never mind to put into action.

4) Fetish wear. I mean: skin tight Latex, PVC, Leather, etc. Looks incredible and so sexy on the photos, but if you don't want to provide dom/sub services, better not to display such photos, as the guys assuming you do, even if you stated you don't. (but then many does not read the text on the websites).

5) WS- Usually attracts quite older guys (over 50). If somebody does not want to see elderly clients, then that's not the service they should advertise openly. (does not mean that they should not offer it). Opposite works also: if you want to see mature gentleman, then better put it on your "list". ;-)

6)CIM, Deep Throat -Can sometimes attract guys with dominating predisposition, who have main aim to be engaged in the in pounding WG throat, and cant tell the difference between the oral and mouth fuck.

There are more, but above based only on my personal experience. (as I do advertise all above), as well as from other Wgs I know. Hence, I end up to generalise a bit here. B)

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Xenia, I also think the language used is important.

Just looking at the adverts board quickly I see;

SHAG ME SENSELESS 2NITE..

FCUK MY PRETTY YOUNG FACE..

NASTY AND BITCH WAITING..

A few extreme examples, but I'm not sure this is the sort of language 1 - Guys actually want to read, 2 - will attract the right client. For sure a bit of saucy lanuage, or dirty talk maybe if the client knows the lady, but on the advert board?

I guess I'm asking if rather than the service attracting the wrong sort of person, that the lanuage used is also important.

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From my limited knowledge of what girls have told me, offering any kind of sexual services is basically an open invitation for timewasters and fantasists! I think NNTT is right though, some guys want to talk dirty for free and those guys are going to be tempted to contact girls that have dirty writing on their website.

I wouldn't be surprised if there's a link between offering CIM, Deep Throat and getting clients that want to surprise you with unprotected penetration mid-punt. But I have no justification for that sweeping statement.

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I've just read Cherry threadwhere she said that after offering anal services she thinks she attracts wrong kind of clientelle.

I've no idea about it, as I never offered it, but the question is: Does some advertised services draws the clients to the Wgs, they rather not encounter?

Here is a few of mine:

1) Foot Fetish. Attracts massive amount of timewasters. In my experience 100% (Not ever any booking materialised who made an appointment for this service, or including it)

2) Role Play. If you put on your website that you open for suggestions for various role plays, then expect long winded, incredibly boring scenarios emails from the fantasists. Tiresome and dull to read, never mind to put into action.

4) Fetish wear. I mean: skin tight Latex, PVC, Leather, etc. Looks incredible and so sexy on the photos, but if you don't want to provide dom/sub services, better not to display such photos, as the guys assuming you do, even if you stated you don't. (but then many does not read the text on the websites).

5) WS- Usually attracts quite older guys (over 50). If somebody does not want to see elderly clients, then that's not the service they should advertise openly. (does not mean that they should not offer it). Opposite works also: if you want to see mature gentleman, then better put it on your "list". ;-)

6)CIM, Deep Throat -Can sometimes attract guys with dominating predisposition, who have main aim to be engaged in the in pounding WG throat, and cant tell the difference between the oral and mouth fuck.

There are more, but above based only on my personal experience. (as I do advertise all above), as well as from other Wgs I know. Hence, I end up to generalise a bit here. B)

I am just over 50 and usually make a point of enquiring of the escort if my age is an issue. Practically all the time I get asked by the girl " why do you ask this question " and I sometimes feel a bit foolish for asking it. In other words I am made feel by the escorts that 50ish is bang within the age range the the lady expects as being the average type punter. Is this not the case in most peoples experience ? Are 50 guys seen as being in the 'elderly' range ?

Xenia , do you have any theory as to why you think WS seems more attractive to older guys ?

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From my limited knowledge of what girls have told me, offering any kind of sexual services is basically an open invitation for timewasters and fantasists! I think NNTT is right though, some guys want to talk dirty for free and those guys are going to be tempted to contact girls that have dirty writing on their website.

I wouldn't be surprised if there's a link between offering CIM, Deep Throat and getting clients that want to surprise you with unprotected penetration mid-punt. But I have no justification for that sweeping statement.

Absolutely correct Tomdavies.

I do find footfetish enquiries to never materialise into bookings, and the only times this has come about have been brought up during an actual appointment. I don't advertise uniforms, pvc or roleplay because I tend not to do them. Once again if any of those do occur(and they have), it's not been mentioned until the client arrives. In my experience mentioning roleplay before a booking, tends to invite a series of lengthy phone calls. Several of which will be the client "just checking we can do this". I find this starts to ring alarm bells, and puts me off seeing the actual client themselves. Since roleplay for me relies on confidence, and comfort with a particular client then it makes a lot of sense to leave it to the day, or at least leave it to a minimum! I do get asked for uniforms on initial enquiries even though I don't mention them, so I simply say I don't have any but feel free to bring one along for me to wear. No-one has!

My point here is that you will still get asked for services, even if you don't offer them so I don't actually know if they attract the the 'wrong' type of clientele by advertising them. All I know is that I tend to end up with the right clientele most of the time, simply by just being me and not pretending to be anyone else.

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I imagine that "the right type of client" will be attracted to an intelligently prepared advert while the "wrong type" may be tempted by what might be regarded as "dirty" talk, the offering of "unusual" services, or even an advert that is designed to turn him on.

I do think the tone of an advert, or website, sets out what the WG is hoping to attract. I have not met Xenia (but may be tempted one day) but from a perusal of Strawberry's site I feel confident that she could be the lady for me. She comes across as intelligent, attractive and educated. Therefore it follows that she should attract the "right type of client". The girls who offer the sort of "fuck me senseless" services are the ones I generally avoid.

Not sure if this sheds much light on the topic But I hope so.

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I think it's all about the type of client the girl wishes to attract. The 'right' type will vary according to each individual. It's no good a chap looking for a pornstar experience, or PVC, or domination coming to see me he'd be the 'wrong' type - but for a lady offering just that he would be 'right'. I think the trouble starts when someone hasn't read a profile properly, and rings a list of phone numbers. Then it's definitely hit and miss!

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I think it's all about the type of client the girl wishes to attract. The 'right' type will vary according to each individual. It's no good a chap looking for a pornstar experience, or PVC, or domination coming to see me he'd be the 'wrong' type - but for a lady offering just that he would be 'right'. I think the trouble starts when someone hasn't read a profile properly, and rings a list of phone numbers. Then it's definitely hit and miss!

Which is what Xenia was referring to on eh original post. You are right as usual

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5) WS- Usually attracts quite older guys (over 50). If somebody does not want to see elderly clients, then that's not the service they should advertise openly. (does not mean that they should not offer it). Opposite works also: if you want to see mature gentleman, then better put it on your "list". ;-)

Now, that I didn't know...

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Which is what Xenia was referring to on eh original post. You are right as usual

Sorry to Strawberry for the brevity of this post. I got interrupted and had to indulge in some quick "postus interruptus!"

What I was going to go on to say was that the services offered in an advert or on a web site will often dictate the punters who choose to avail themselves of them. Thus a WG should try to offer the services which will attract the "right type of client" for her. How she chooses the "right type" is the $64 million question.

Not sure this make much more sense, but hey, it's Spring!.

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I have to admit I cringe when I see some of the adverts, I always think they must attract the wrong sort. Why attract trouble when you don't have too.

Shelly

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I'm confused. In what way are these clients you are attracting undesirable and what are the wrong type of clients in your opinion?

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I'm confused. In what way are these clients you are attracting undesirable and what are the wrong type of clients in your opinion?

Bearing in mind that punting is what we do, there are some (often of a religious persuasion) who would damn us all as the "wrong type of person" and I'm sure that in their view we will never get to knock on the pearly gates.

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Bearing in mind that punting is what we do, there are some (often of a religious persuasion) who would damn us all as the "wrong type of person" and I'm sure that in their view we will never get to knock on the pearly gates.

Well, if all the hookers and punters are going to hell I don't want to go to heaven. :D

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Bearing in mind that punting is what we do, there are some (often of a religious persuasion) who would damn us all as the "wrong type of person" and I'm sure that in their view we will never get to knock on the pearly gates.

It is not just those of a religious persuasion one has to worry about, there are plenty of irreligious totalitarians who want to lock up punters for years.

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I'm confused. In what way are these clients you are attracting undesirable and what are the wrong type of clients in your opinion?

Tarquin

This is what I was trying to get at earlier, this topic can easily appear to be or take an arrogant stance.

I often have said that as time goes on I attract more and more clients who are suited to me, ie 'right'. This doesn't in anyway mean the ones I don't appeal to are the 'wrong' sort though, just that I'm not offering the things they are looking for. To see them would be simply wrong for us both.

I have seen allsorts of chaps, from binmen to high-flying businessmen of all backgrounds and social standing. What I've found is that earning ability, education, line of work etc don't necessarily make for a right, or wrong person.

I just want to see clients who want to see me. I can feel a tag-line, new signature even coming on. OOOOhhhh.

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I'm confused. In what way are these clients you are attracting undesirable and what are the wrong type of clients in your opinion?

The ones who forget to bring the money , of course .

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I'm confused. In what way are these clients you are attracting undesirable and what are the wrong type of clients in your opinion?

The wrong sort for me are men that are disrectful and think because they are paying that anything goes. Also the violent types which no one wants to see. I could go on and on but I think you will get my drift.

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I'm confused. In what way are these clients you are attracting undesirable and what are the wrong type of clients in your opinion?

Dirty, smelly, rude, non-listening, ignorant, selfish, aggressive, badly dressed, poor timekeepers, over-stayers, etc etc.

I think you might get the drift.

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I've just read Cherry threadwhere she said that after offering anal services she thinks she attracts wrong kind of clientelle.

I've no idea about it, as I never offered it, but the question is: Does some advertised services draws the clients to the Wgs, they rather not encounter?

Here is a few of mine:

1) Foot Fetish. Attracts massive amount of timewasters. In my experience 100% (Not ever any booking materialised who made an appointment for this service, or including it)

2) Role Play. If you put on your website that you open for suggestions for various role plays, then expect long winded, incredibly boring scenarios emails from the fantasists. Tiresome and dull to read, never mind to put into action.

4) Fetish wear. I mean: skin tight Latex, PVC, Leather, etc. Looks incredible and so sexy on the photos, but if you don't want to provide dom/sub services, better not to display such photos, as the guys assuming you do, even if you stated you don't. (but then many does not read the text on the websites).

5) WS- Usually attracts quite older guys (over 50). If somebody does not want to see elderly clients, then that's not the service they should advertise openly. (does not mean that they should not offer it). Opposite works also: if you want to see mature gentleman, then better put it on your "list". ;-)

6)CIM, Deep Throat -Can sometimes attract guys with dominating predisposition, who have main aim to be engaged in the in pounding WG throat, and cant tell the difference between the oral and mouth fuck.

There are more, but above based only on my personal experience. (as I do advertise all above), as well as from other Wgs I know. Hence, I end up to generalise a bit here. B)

You are so right there. It's amazing how many profiles have a lady wearing fetish wear but turn out to be studio shots etc when they have no intention of wearing such attire. One lady told me that although she likes PVC she never mentions it because she gets so bored hearing from guys 'who just want me to beat them.'

Another problem with fetish wear is the time it can take to get changed into and out of the outfits e.g. skin tight catsuit, lace up thigh boots, especially if this is several times a day.

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....... Does some advertised services draws the clients to the Wgs, they rather not encounter?

Here is a few of mine:

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5) WS- Usually attracts quite older guys (over 50).........

Ah - That'll be the weak bladder that comes with age! :D

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I hope that I'm the sort of punter that WGs like to see - inoffensive, harmlessly odd, prompt payer, scrubbed clean and minty fresh.

I tend to avoid girls that post things like "fuck my slut mouth" and "use me as your toilet". I'm much more likely to book the girl that writes "I do this part time because I enjoy it" and "I love GFE with lots of kissing & cuddling".

I have no idea who the former girls attract, but I'm pretty sure it's not people like me.

@Calynx - Peeing a lot is much more likely to be Benign Prostate Hyperplasia (Enlarged prostate). You can get a drug called Tamsulosin to alleviate the symptoms from your GP. She'll even put her finget up your bum for free before she prescribes, though she'll probably follow the proctologists creed - one professionally, two socially... ;)

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I have often read some 'warning' posts on many sites and wonder why they are getting so many awful people...well it's obvious. It's their advertising first, they have no idea how to, and if I could listen in to their phonecalls, I imagine that I would say 'Put the phone down NOW!' to many.

Adverts that are 'catch all, anyone will do' with invitations to do anything, will bring any 'thing', and the abhorrent vile beasts that they moan about. They do not know HOW to market or advertise, no research of this, screaming in caps with squiggles, screeching that they will do almost anything, it reeks of desperation and does not bring the best boys. A decent boy isn't impressed by this, surely?

It gets attention for sure...but not many of the good guys!

Now...I do know that some ladies write well, and still have troubles, this is where they really have to hone the phone skills and it's not easy! I say that having a call of more than a few mins will suss it, as he will trip up quite quickly. Many ladies think that more than a few mins = a timewaster, I use the time to suss out a bonafide caller. A few mins might not be enough sometimes. A TW is expecting you to seal the deal in mins, he's got enough sweet-talk for that. He's too stupid to think that you will want to know more. And he thinks that you're too stupid to ask, too. So, TW's trip up after a few mins. They trip up on emails too. Ladies, you know what I'm saying...

I say...this man may be coming to my place, I want to know some stuff! It's worth spending a bit of time for your safety. Not sexy stuff either.

In my nearly 6yrs online, I have found that my presentations rarely bring me a TW, and when one calls, I'm 99% successful on the phone sussing. One or two 'Oscar Winners' have caught me out!

If you want to addy as 'here's my fanny, here's my fone number' woe betide you. Mind you...those girls aren't reading this are they? No research before diving in, as I said. Lucky for the idiots calling them...

Those girls can learn soooo much if they wanted to.

Apologies for being harsh, I do mean to be helpful too!

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I have often read some 'warning' posts on many sites and wonder why they are getting so many awful people...well it's obvious. It's their advertising first, they have no idea how to, and if I could listen in to their phonecalls, I imagine that I would say 'Put the phone down NOW!' to many.

Adverts that are 'catch all, anyone will do' with invitations to do anything, will bring any 'thing', and the abhorrent vile beasts that they moan about. They do not know HOW to market or advertise, no research of this, screaming in caps with squiggles, screeching that they will do almost anything, it reeks of desperation and does not bring the best boys. A decent boy isn't impressed by this, surely?

It gets attention for sure...but not many of the good guys!

Now...I do know that some ladies write well, and still have troubles, this is where they really have to hone the phone skills and it's not easy! I say that having a call of more than a few mins will suss it, as he will trip up quite quickly. Many ladies think that more than a few mins = a timewaster, I use the time to suss out a bonafide caller. A few mins might not be enough sometimes. A TW is expecting you to seal the deal in mins, he's got enough sweet-talk for that. He's too stupid to think that you will want to know more. And he thinks that you're too stupid to ask, too. So, TW's trip up after a few mins. They trip up on emails too. Ladies, you know what I'm saying...

I say...this man may be coming to my place, I want to know some stuff! It's worth spending a bit of time for your safety. Not sexy stuff either.

In my nearly 6yrs online, I have found that my presentations rarely bring me a TW, and when one calls, I'm 99% successful on the phone sussing. One or two 'Oscar Winners' have caught me out!

If you want to addy as 'here's my fanny, here's my fone number' woe betide you. Mind you...those girls aren't reading this are they? No research before diving in, as I said. Lucky for the idiots calling them...

Those girls can learn soooo much if they wanted to.

Apologies for being harsh, I do mean to be helpful too!

Interesting thoughts DollyMopp, can I ask you this though (and other ladies, guys).

What do you consider a timewaster? Is any call that fails to generate a booking a "timewaster", or is it a booking and then a no show?

I ask because maybe some guys need more information before making a booking (email or call)? Obviously making a booking and failing to show isn't acceptable, although it goes on in every business.

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Tarquin

This is what I was trying to get at earlier, this topic can easily appear to be or take an arrogant stance.

I often have said that as time goes on I attract more and more clients who are suited to me, ie 'right'. This doesn't in anyway mean the ones I don't appeal to are the 'wrong' sort though, just that I'm not offering the things they are looking for. To see them would be simply wrong for us both.

I have seen allsorts of chaps, from binmen to high-flying businessmen of all backgrounds and social standing. What I've found is that earning ability, education, line of work etc don't necessarily make for a right, or wrong person.

I just want to see clients who want to see me. I can feel a tag-line, new signature even coming on. OOOOhhhh.

Yes, I understand what you are saying, however I was referring to Xenia's list that she says she advertises. I mean if she advertises certain services then she must expect a certain type client.......or not? Still confused, but then I have been away for a while so maybe it's just me :-(

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