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Intriguing Daily Telegraph Report?

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Yesterday's (22 March) Daily Telegraph Scottish print edition - I've searched on line and can't find it - has an interesting, but undated report. One Gemma Ryan (presumably her "real name" if she uses it in court?) has been sentenced to 150 hours of good deeds and banned from the Britannia Hotel by an ASBO.

Her crime?

She was headed, wearing, from the CCTV photos, a delightful "little girl's" yellow dress, with a pretty short skirt, for a room in the hotel, but, when challenged, she didn't know the full name of the punter (sorry, mustn't jump to conclusions) "person" she was visiting, although she did have the room number. This lady is fit! She left the Night Manager needing surgery, and she kicks high, like a ballerina. Unfortunately, for her, they were three to her one, and they got her on the floor until the Police could remove her.

Anyone know the lady, or have anything more on the story?

Moral, for me, punter booking an out-call must be willing to give his full name to the WG. WG must insist.

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Yesterday's (22 March) Daily Telegraph Scottish print edition - I've searched on line and can't find it - has an interesting, but undated report. One Gemma Ryan (presumably her "real name" if she uses it in court?) has been sentenced to 150 hours of good deeds and banned from the Britannia Hotel by an ASBO.

Her crime?

She was headed, wearing, from the CCTV photos, a delightful "little girl's" yellow dress, with a pretty short skirt, for a room in the hotel, but, when challenged, she didn't know the full name of the punter (sorry, mustn't jump to conclusions) "person" she was visiting, although she did have the room number. This lady is fit! She left the Night Manager needing surgery, and she kicks high, like a ballerina. Unfortunately, for her, they were three to her one, and they got her on the floor until the Police could remove her.

Anyone know the lady, or have anything more on the story?

Moral, for me, punter booking an out-call must be willing to give his full name to the WG. WG must insist.

Here you go: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1368408/Hotel-night-manager-facing-surgery-woman-high-heels-kicks-groin.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

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Very many thanks, and also to N who referred me to: http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1411386_caught_on_cctv_barred_guests_high_heel_attack_on_night_manager_of_britannia_hotel .

Whether this lady is a WG or not, she is certainly very fit! She'd go far in mud wrestling, I think.

Ryan, who failed to attend the ASBO hearing at Manchester magistrates court, was also sentenced to 150 hours of unpaid work.

Looks like you Manchester boys are up for some freebies!!!

Anyone up for the challenge though??

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Whilst not condoning the obvious violence from the lady in question - presumably the reason for the community service & ASBO - I do wonder what on earth the guy was conducting a citizen's arrest for in the first place. :rolleyes: Not knowing the surname of the person you're visiting is hardly a crime.

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I dont know the layout of the hotel but it looked like she was trying to leave and they were stopping her. Although not excusing her behavior you can understand her reaction if they were refusing to let her leave... and as has already been said a citizens arrest? ... for not knowing the clients name? Surely they could have just phoned the room and asked him if he was expecting a guest.

The mention that there was an incident a few weeks earlier gives the impression she had already been told by management to not conduct her business in that hotel and she was caught ignoring it... hence the refusal to let her enter or leave. They must have known what she was doing there and tool adversity to it... can you imagine the reaction of a genuine guest if one of thier friends got this sort of treatment when visiting them... I would imagine it would be the guest sueing rather than the CPS prosecuting. I would imagine the client was so embarressed he probably denied all knowledge of the girl only making the situation worse.

Without knowing the full facts but on the face of it I would imagine she freaked out when they wouldnt let her go and told her they had called the police. When backed in to a corner (metaphorically) he bahavior makes far more sense. It looks like management had had enough of her and werent going to let t go this time.

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Not knowing the surname of the person you're visiting is hardly a crime.

Not knowing the surname is a reasonably good indicator to a jaundiced hotel worker that the lady is a WG.

Next step: a startling number of otherwise literate and reasonably sensible people still think that prostitution is illegal.

If I'm alone in a hotel in a strange city, bored, and feeling randy, do I have a citizen right to have an out-call visitor come to "see" me? I think I do, provided she isn't drunk and noisy, and doesn't offend other guests she may encounter. Many hotel managers will, however, disagree, saying that they have instructions to exclude prostitutes from the hotel, on alternative grounds of illegal and/or immoral. They also have fairly funny ideas, mostly gained from US TV programmes, about "citizens arrest".

In this case (and we don't know if she is a WG or not) she went to the hotel looking fruity, and was asked by hotel staff where she was going when they found her upstairs. They told her to get out. She refused. There was enough noise for the Night Manager to come up, and, I guess, he was a wee bitty aggressive. She kicked him hard enough that he'll apparently need surgery! They then floored her, and called the Police. Hell, it did happen in Manchester.

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The hotel in question will probably be losing a fair amount of business now from other single male customers booking double rooms for one night, who have unpronounceable surnames.

North London 20 year old Polish goalkeepers must have lonely evenings.

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The hotel in question will probably be losing a fair amount of business now from other single male customers booking double rooms for one night, who have unpronounceable surnames.

North London 20 year old Polish goalkeepers must have lonely evenings.

At the start of the video it looked as though they'd locked the door to stop her leaving. I'd be getting a bit pissed if somebody locked a door on me and told me they were conducting a citizens arrest for some BS crime.

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The staff were muppets in the way they handled the initial situation (citizen's arrest for not knowing a guest's name? :rolleyes: ) but nothing in their actions justifies the kind of thuggery (and that's exactly what it is) that this so called lady responded with, and seemingly not for the first time, I for one hope that she isn't a WG because that is far from the confident and classy image of a WG which I suspect most would prefer to be out there.

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Not knowing the surname is a reasonably good indicator to a jaundiced hotel worker that the lady is a WG.

Next step: a startling number of otherwise literate and reasonably sensible people still think that prostitution is illegal.

If I'm alone in a hotel in a strange city, bored, and feeling randy, do I have a citizen right to have an out-call visitor come to "see" me? I think I do, provided she isn't drunk and noisy, and doesn't offend other guests she may encounter. Many hotel managers will, however, disagree, saying that they have instructions to exclude prostitutes from the hotel, on alternative grounds of illegal and/or immoral. They also have fairly funny ideas, mostly gained from US TV programmes, about "citizens arrest".

In this case (and we don't know if she is a WG or not) she went to the hotel looking fruity, and was asked by hotel staff where she was going when they found her upstairs. They told her to get out. She refused. There was enough noise for the Night Manager to come up, and, I guess, he was a wee bitty aggressive. She kicked him hard enough that he'll apparently need surgery! They then floored her, and called the Police. Hell, it did happen in Manchester.

"Looking fruity" I love that.

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The door staff at the Britannia hotel in Manchester have a very strict door policy. I have heard of several WGs being refused entry, especially late at night.

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Cant say I recognise her despite my frequent appointments with girls in the area.

Must add that she looks dreadfully thin and hardly the type an escort agency might promote.

She should have booked The Lowry...........they wouldnt have given an arse about her movements

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Must add that she looks dreadfully thin and hardly the type an escort agency might promote.

I rather doubt whether you'd recognise me from a mug shot taken the morning after when I was tired, hung-over, unshaven, and hadn't had time to brush my hair! Even more the case when it's a member of the fair sex who hasn't had a chance to put her war-paint on.

In more favourable circumstances, and by candle light, I think she might well look quite palatable!

Give the girl a chance!

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I rather doubt whether you'd recognise me from a mug shot taken the morning after when I was tired, hung-over, unshaven, and hadn't had time to brush my hair! Even more the case when it's a member of the fair sex who hasn't had a chance to put her war-paint on.

In more favourable circumstances, and by candle light, I think she might well look quite palatable!

Give the girl a chance!

Nope wont do...you sound more appealing than her and I aint gay :D

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Cant say I recognise her despite my frequent appointments with girls in the area.

Must add that she looks dreadfully thin and hardly the type an escort agency might promote.

She should have booked The Lowry...........they wouldnt have given an arse about her movements

I thought for a moment you were recommending the hotel based on your assessment of her physique ;)

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The hotel is perfectly entitled to challenge anyone regardless of gender, her reaction was absurd, and the pitiful sentence she received, irritates me, and I imagine the majority of the country. If a man had inflicted that level of injury on a woman, go figure.

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Reading between the lines, sounds as if she is a frequent visitor and the staff were looking for a reason to eject her. The excuse that she didn't know the guest's surname is just ridiculous though, and I'm sure covers up a more complicated story.

Unfortunately she let it go too far, which is a pity.

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Reading between the lines, sounds as if she is a frequent visitor and the staff were looking for a reason to eject her. The excuse that she didn't know the guest's surname is just ridiculous though, and I'm sure covers up a more complicated story.

Unfortunately she let it go too far, which is a pity.

Why she hadn't got the guys last name I do not know, not very professional really. Why on earth a hotel should care about whether a paying guest is paying for the company of a prostitute for a hour or so, trying a citizens arrest was stupid. She should have waited for the police to arrive and pressed charges against the hotel. Not knowing someones last name is not a criminal offence, neither is being a prostitute. The Britannia is a shithole anyway, lots of better hotels where they wouldn't have bothered, that's a tip for guys going to Manchester and thinking of getting an outcall, decide where to spend your money wisely.

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I thought for a moment you were recommending the hotel based on your assessment of her physique ;)

Very subtle that young man :D

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Not knowing the name of the guest she was supposedly visiting would flash a red light with me as well. It's not clear from the bits of film whether she is attempting to go in or go out of the door. Having assaulted someone no doubt the staff would be justified in detaining her (can't make a citizen's arrest on reasonable suspicion, have to see a plainly unlawful act taking place). Some hotels that are having problems with theft will try to exclude people who have no obvious business there.

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It's not clear from the bits of film whether she is attempting to go in or go out of the door.............................. Some hotels that are having problems with theft will try to exclude people who have no obvious business there.

Having styed at the Brittania in question I'm pretty certain she was trying to leave, she did have fairly obvious business there ;)

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Best policy is to book a double room. Then it should be incumbent on the hotel, if it has stopped your guest to contact you and check that you are expecting the lady in question.You've paid for a double room and it's no business of theirs who you share it with.

Although potentially embarassing for a punter the hotel should be questioning late night visitors as it has a duty of care to all its guests. Say the visitor was not an escort but a potential thief or worse.

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Having styed at the Brittania in question I'm pretty certain she was trying to leave, she did have fairly obvious business there ;)

According to article you posted link to, and hopefelly read it yourself, she was stopped while entering.

Gemma Ryan, 23, flew into a rage when she was stopped by suspicious staff from walking up to a room as she could only give the partial name of the guest she was visiting.

And....

Ryan was asked by police to leave the Ramada Hotel, where Mr Burke now works as night manager, after she hurled insults at staff when she was denied entry.

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According to article you posted link to, and hopefelly read it yourself, she was stopped while entering.

Gemma Ryan, 23, flew into a rage when she was stopped by suspicious staff from walking up to a room as she could only give the partial name of the guest she was visiting.

And....

Ryan was asked by police to leave the Ramada Hotel, where Mr Burke now works as night manager, after she hurled insults at staff when she was denied entry.

I have read it, I got the impression that she went into a rage when they wouldn't let up to the room, (A taxi from Ashton Under Lyne would probably cost £20 there and back so she could well be pissed off about laying out money on that for nothing). They evidently tried a citizens arrest and locked her in which is when she lost it on film.

The guy who was manager at the Britannia is now night manager at the Ramada, presumably he recognised her when she went in there, (I think you would after that kick to nuts). I notice it says the police 'asked' her to leave the Ramada, possibly because of the upcoming court case and that her presence there could have been seen as intimidating a witness, they didn't 'tell' her to leave the Ramada. I'd be interested to know why the manager left the Britania for the Ramada, maybe the Britannia thought he had handled it badly. I used to know someone who used the Britannia at Offerton and Didsbury for incalls several day a week for ages before she got her own apartment, she never had problems with them.

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