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I, being a long standing member of the Paranoid Party wondered if anyone else has the same reservations when meeting a "student" for the first time through an ad in say Craiglist or Vivastreet? With an agency or Indie it's pretty safe in as much that you are unlikely to be set up for a mugging etc, but I have my concerns when dealing with so called students just doing "it" for a bit of extra cash.

Some are very naive or not kosher. For instance I have had email and phone conversations with a "student" who replied to one of my ads. Firstly she wanted Agency Escort prices, but after some chat we have come to a more amicable figure, secondly she is quite happy ( and I've found this to be the case with others)to merely turn up to my hotel room having not met me in public first. I find this incredibly stupid and possibly dangerous for the girl and maybe inviting trouble for myself in way of a "set up" of some sort.

In keeping with my own security practices I have advised her never to meet anyone without seeing them in public first. She has agreed and I will most likely see her week after next, but I have ditched quite a few very promising girls as I will not meet any that will not agree to meet in public first.

Am I being over cautious?

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I, being a long standing member of the Paranoid Party wondered if anyone else has the same reservations when meeting a "student" for the first time through an ad in say Craiglist or Vivastreet? With an agency or Indie it's pretty safe in as much that you are unlikely to be set up for a mugging etc, but I have my concerns when dealing with so called students just doing "it" for a bit of extra cash.

Some are very naive or not kosher. For instance I have had email and phone conversations with a "student" who replied to one of my ads. Firstly she wanted Agency Escort prices, but after some chat we have come to a more amicable figure, secondly she is quite happy ( and I've found this to be the case with others)to merely turn up to my hotel room having not met me in public first. I find this incredibly stupid and possibly dangerous for the girl and maybe inviting trouble for myself in way of a "set up" of some sort.

In keeping with my own security practices I have advised her never to meet anyone without seeing them in public first. She has agreed and I will most likely see her week after next, but I have ditched quite a few very promising girls as I will not meet any that will not agree to meet in public first.

Am I being over cautious?

Yes you are in my opinion.

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I, being a long standing member of the Paranoid Party wondered if anyone else has the same reservations when meeting a "student" for the first time through an ad in say Craiglist or Vivastreet? With an agency or Indie it's pretty safe in as much that you are unlikely to be set up for a mugging etc, but I have my concerns when dealing with so called students just doing "it" for a bit of extra cash.

Some are very naive or not kosher. For instance I have had email and phone conversations with a "student" who replied to one of my ads. Firstly she wanted Agency Escort prices, but after some chat we have come to a more amicable figure, secondly she is quite happy ( and I've found this to be the case with others)to merely turn up to my hotel room having not met me in public first. I find this incredibly stupid and possibly dangerous for the girl and maybe inviting trouble for myself in way of a "set up" of some sort.

In keeping with my own security practices I have advised her never to meet anyone without seeing them in public first. She has agreed and I will most likely see her week after next, but I have ditched quite a few very promising girls as I will not meet any that will not agree to meet in public first.

Am I being over cautious?

I do hope that she is not going to take your "advise". :-(

If money going to be exchanged (ie, not normal first blind date), then I would advise to every girl exactly opposite: never ever meet in the public place! Always meet in the hotel room first. Much more safer!

Every client who asks to meet in the public place, is the potential timewaster, or he might want to get a kick seeing her come in the lobby/bar/pub/restaurant,while she is waiting for him without any inclination to continue meeting in the first place, or approach her like another random guy who is trying to pull, without letting her know that he is the actual guy who contacted her in the first place. He might even bring his mates just to have a laugh, to see poor naive girl looking around and trying to guess which guy is her "date", etc.

TBH: I can't believe anybody will fell for it.

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I do hope that she is not going to take your "advise". :-(

If money going to be exchanged (ie, not normal first blind date), then I would advise to every girl exactly opposite: never ever meet in the public place! Always meet in the hotel room first. Much more safer!

Every client who asks to meet in the public place, is the potential timewaster, or he might want to get a kick seeing her come in the lobby/bar/pub/restaurant,while she is waiting for him without any inclination to continue meeting in the first place, or approach her like another random guy who is trying to pull, without letting her know that he is the actual guy who contacted her in the first place. He might even bring his mates just to have a laugh, to see poor naive girl looking around and trying to guess which guy is her "date", etc.

TBH: I can't believe anybody will fell for it.

Interesting view, I must admit I hadn't seen it from that point of view. However I'm not so sure you are right, or that I am either, just some of the girls that have replied to my ads over time seem to have ony sex and cash on their minds and I think disregard their own safety, apart from me considering mine. You must bear in mind that these girls are not necessarily professional at the paid for sex scene and therefore are not likely to be aware of the pitfalls of meeting a complete nutter.

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Interesting view, I must admit I hadn't seen it from that point of view. However I'm not so sure you are right, or that I am either, just some of the girls that have replied to my ads over time seem to have ony sex and cash on their minds and I think disregard their own safety, apart from me considering mine. You must bear in mind that these girls are not necessarily professional at the paid for sex scene and therefore are not likely to be aware of the pitfalls of meeting a complete nutter.

Which you could well be!

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Interesting view, I must admit I hadn't seen it from that point of view. However I'm not so sure you are right, or that I am either, just some of the girls that have replied to my ads over time seem to have ony sex and cash on their minds and I think disregard their own safety, apart from me considering mine. You must bear in mind that these girls are not necessarily professional at the paid for sex scene and therefore are not likely to be aware of the pitfalls of meeting a complete nutter.

Can you please tell why meeting in the public place is safer then meeting in the hotel room?

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Which you could well be!

I could be, maybe you could let me know, after all they say it takes one to know one.

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Can you please tell why meeting in the public place is safer then meeting in the hotel room?

I cannot believe you need to ask that.

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Can you please tell why meeting in the public place is safer then meeting in the hotel room?

Because meeting in a public place you would have the chance to take a look at each other and decide not to go ahead with the punt if it didn't " feel " right. There would be people around so none of you would make a fuss. I would never open my hotel door to a stranger/ wg that I did not know. Even the police would advise a wg this ,

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I cannot believe you need to ask that.

Do I really need it to explain on the fingers?

When girl going to meet guy on the hotel room, she will ask you room number and the name you booked under. Then she will call to reception and check if the person by the name of John Smith booked at that number of the room. Then she will call you at that room and check that you are there. Then she will meet you in the that room! Thats at least protection she require, in case something unforseable and dangerous will happen, if nothing else: she can rely that hotel have your booking details. Even if you gave fake names and did not used bank card, the trails are still there.

If girl going to meet somebody in the public place, she is got almost nothing. Yes, she can go through the procedure described above, regarding your room and name, but by the the time they meet, the guy might check out of the room, (providing he was there in the first place) and meet her somewhere else on the "public place", she has hardly anything to rely on.

Yes, possibility of anything happening, is not high. But at least it less so, when first few minutes of meeting occurred in the hotel room. You can go out in the "public place" after introduction, but she need to see you in your hotel room first, for a reasons I said above.

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Do I really need it to explain on the fingers?

When girl going to meet guy on the hotel room, she will ask you room number and the name you booked under. Then she will call to reception and check if the person by the name of John Smith booked at that number of the room. Then she will call you at that room and check that you are there. Then she will meet you in the that room! Thats at least protection she require, in case something unforseable and dangerous will happen, if nothing else: she can rely that hotel have your booking details. Even if you gave fake names and did not used bank card, the trails are still there.

If girl going to meet somebody in the public place, she is got almost nothing. Yes, she can go through the procedure described above, regarding your room and name, but by the the time they meet, the guy might check out of the room, (providing he was there in the first place) and meet her somewhere else on the "public place", she has hardly anything to rely on.

Yes, possibility of anything happening, is not high. But at least it less so, when first few minutes of meeting occurred in the hotel room. You can go out in the "public place" after introduction, but she need to see you in your hotel room first, for a reasons I said above.

Ermmmm, I am referring to non professional student type girls offering sex for cash as a sideline/hobby, not bona fide experienced prostitutes.

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Ermmmm, I am referring to non professional student type girls offering sex for cash as a sideline/hobby, not bona fide experienced prostitutes.

WTF is "bona fide professional prostitutes"? I never met one! Even if they are exist: same security rules should apply to every girl who meet the guy for a first time.

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Anyone offering sex in exchange for cash is prostituting themselves whether part time or full time. You however are trying to preach to someone who actually has common sense and knows what she is doing. Whether the girl is doing this as one-off or probably and most likely done this before (why else would she be scanning the ads??) the same basic common sense rules apply. If you actually genuinely cared rather than being patronising and a groomer, you would have directed her to SAAFE.

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Anyone offering sex in exchange for cash is prostituting themselves whether part time or full time. You however are trying to preach to someone who actually has common sense and knows what she is doing. Whether the girl is doing this as one-off or probably and most likely done this before (why else would she be scanning the ads??) the same basic common sense rules apply. If you actually genuinely cared rather than being patronising and a groomer, you would have directed her to SAAFE.

I take exception to your last sentence and would respectfully ask that you retract it immediately.

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I take exception to your last sentence and would respectfully ask that you retract it immediately.

I have no intention of doing this!

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WTF is "bona fide professional prostitutes"? I never met one! Even if they are exist: same security rules should apply to every girl who meet the guy for a first time.

Lol, a classic case of "lost in translation" seems to be taking place here, or at least I hope that's what it is.

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I have no intention of doing this!

Then I should hope that a Mod will in due course explain to you that suggesting I am a groomer is not acceptable and reprimand you accordingly.

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Then I should hope that a Mod will in due course explain to you that suggesting I am a groomer is not acceptable and reprimand you accordingly.

Perhaps a mod will read what you stated in this thread and make up his/her own mind. I will add I find it rather disturbing that you are trying to dish out questionable advice to what you presume to be a vulnerable inexperienced girl whose prices you with apparent pride managed to haggle down. Someone like this is about as equipped to give counsel on safety measures as a goat would make a decent gardener.

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Lol, a classic case of "lost in translation" seems to be taking place here, or at least I hope that's what it is.

Nothing is lost in translation for me.(Are you from the Asian background by any chance?).

Can you tell me please what is exactly "bona fide experienced prostitute"? (your words, not mine).

Thank you Honey! I for a minute, thought that I was here on my own. :-)

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Perhaps a mod will read what you stated in this thread and make up his/her own mind. I will add I find it rather disturbing that you are trying to dish out questionable advice to what you presume to be a vulnerable inexperienced girl whose prices you with apparent pride managed to haggle down. Someone like this is about as equipped to give counsel on safety measures as a goat would make a decent gardener.

I've no wish to trade tit for tat posts with you especially as you seem to have misunderstood and or misinterpreted everything I have said. So yes, let a Mod make up his/her own mind.

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Thank you Honey! I for a minute, thought that I was here on my own. :-)

No Xenia petal, I fully understood and appreciate the points you made. Just in case someone thinks this is a lost in translation case, let me give a brief overview; :rolleyes:

Guy seeks semi pro naive girls as opposed to bone fine pros who would actually insist on being paid a decent going rate and would take sensible safety precautions. Guy boasts about haggling down prices but in order not to come across as a total slime ball tries to polish nonexistent halo and makes out like he is a concerned and ethical consumer who has the well being of naive part time hooker at heart and gives idiotic safety advice. Guy then gets all churlish when told my by experienced and sensible escort that his advice his non sense and attempts to patronise said escort.

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Nothing is lost in translation for me.(Are you from the Asian background by any chance?).

Can you tell me please what is exactly "bona fide experienced prostitute"? (your words, not mine).

Thank you Honey! I for a minute, thought that I was here on my own. :-)

Really, are you sure? And there was I being generous with my thoughts and giving you the benefit of doubt.

It's really quite simple, as I see it and I suspect many others do also a "bona fide experienced prostitute" is exactly that, and not an unexperienced girl looking for a bit of fun with a cash incentive.

Please don't feel obliged to reply.

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Anyone offering sex in exchange for cash is prostituting themselves whether part time or full time. You however are trying to preach to someone who actually has common sense and knows what she is doing. Whether the girl is doing this as one-off or probably and most likely done this before (why else would she be scanning the ads??) the same basic common sense rules apply. If you actually genuinely cared rather than being patronising and a groomer, you would have directed her to SAAFE.

Labelling someone a groomer is a really serious allegation in my view, i see no evidence of it on here and read it as Tarquin asking posters opinions on the matter.

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Labelling someone a groomer is a really serious allegation in my view, i see no evidence of it on here and read it as Tarquin asking posters opinions on the matter.

Besides meaning for example a canine beautician and various other interpretations, a groomer is someone that does something in order to get back a favour often of a sexual nature. There is nothing inflammatory or incorrect about suggesting this about the OP. He has stated that he has been contact with a young woman who is hoping to have sex with in return for some cash and at the same time he is acting like he is giving sensible advice. It might not be the most flattering term but describes the scenario as stated in the opening post.

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Labelling someone a groomer is a really serious allegation in my view, i see no evidence of it on here and read it as Tarquin asking posters opinions on the matter.

He is not a groomer, but according to his post purporting himself to be such, even if he did not intend to.

He purposely advertise himself to attract part time hookers (But then all hookers, are "part time") and then giving him completely wrong suggestions! He assumes that they unexperienced (which is exactly what he is looking for), but then I would not call any hooker "unexperienced" who are looking for such ads from guys and then offer herself. She is much hardcore WG as others, but still unknowledgeable and dim in her approach.

He might not take advantage of situation (I hope and sure he don't), but advise them on the wrong procedure, is wrong, in case she will apply it to some other meeting in a future.! Whatever he is haggling with them, that's his and hers business. She will learn eventually not to approach arseholes that way.

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