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If The "girl" You Book Turns Out To Be A Ts...

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I had this experience at a palour recently.

Her large hands got me a little suspicious, then the small scar on the neck, the large scar down below... suddenly I became a News Of the World journalist and "made my excuses and left".

Should I complain and ask for my money back?

Should I out the "girl" in question?

Shouldn't the palour say "she" used to be a fella?

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Yes, please post the full details. That is definitely something the punting public should be warned about. If people want to visit male providers, that is their choice - but it should BE their choice - to be deliberately tricked when you are expecting a female is about the most despicable thing I can imagine!

That being said, however, please be absolutely sure of your facts. It would be terrible to ruin an establishment's reputation over this if it turned out to be a mistake.

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I would call the agency and see what they have to say for themselves. I cant imagine a parlour owner would knowingly advertise a ts as a working girl if they knew and would hope they would want to look into it. It could well be that they dont know in which case the sooner you tell them the better and save someone else having a nasty suprise. If they fob you off, Name and Shame as that is absolutely not acceptable.

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however, please be absolutely sure of your facts. It would be terrible to ruin an establishment's reputation over this if it turned out to be a mistake.

But that's exactly what's been happening in another thread ('Tiffany . . .' on RfI board), where one poster has been making these accusations, without a shred of evidence, against a total of twenty ladies.

Despite several calls to have the thread deleted, Mods have taken no action.

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Someone once tried to do the same to myself. Yes I have been very athletic at various points, yes when I train I do acheive a broad-shouldered, female athlete body-shape, yes I have always had a deeper than usual voice, yes my hands do appear large when I am very slim. No I have never been male. I'm simply a woman who has athletic abilities, and doesn't have teeny-tiny bone structure.

So you do need to be absolutely sure. A scar here and there doesn't necessarily mean anything.

I would like to ask what this "large scar down below" looked like. Was it around the genitalia? I was under the impression that a sex-change operation involved a lot of tucking and folding, that might hide any such scars.

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But that's exactly what's been happening in another thread ('Tiffany . . .' on RfI board), where one poster has been making these accusations, without a shred of evidence, against a total of twenty ladies.

Despite several calls to have the thread deleted, Mods have taken no action.

Whats RFO board?

And if a punter has suspicions he is rigth to air them, often these things turn out to be true.

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I used to be lovers with a trans woman. she had beautiful breasts and a pussy that you would never know had been made by a surgeon. and i mean never. there were some small scars on her body, but nothing that would definitively prove her history. i only knew because she was always open about it and had told me early on.

but are you talking about someone who has not had genital surgery? some trans people keep their original genitalia, some don't, some you meet while they are in transition...

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Regarding the OP, firstly you need to talk to the agency, then if you get no satisfaction name and shame.

The measure of an agency is not that they don't make mistakes, but that they correct them.

But that's exactly what's been happening in another thread ('Tiffany . . .' on RfI board), where one poster has been making these accusations, without a shred of evidence, against a total of twenty ladies.

Despite several calls to have the thread deleted, Mods have taken no action.

While I think he is over stated things, it seems obvious to me that some of those he mentioned are. There is a pathological refusal of some others in that thread to accept that seems very defensive to me. I always though I had a good radar about this kind of thing until I tried a test some time ago.

http://www.myboobsite.com/tsquiz/

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I doubt one can deduce much from the size of the hands. Yes, on average women have smaller hands than men, but the spread of the sizes means that some women have hands as large as the average men's. From time to time I have noticed really large hands on women.

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But that's exactly what's been happening in another thread ('Tiffany . . .' on RfI board), where one poster has been making these accusations, without a shred of evidence, against a total of twenty ladies.

Despite several calls to have the thread deleted, Mods have taken no action.

The thread in question has been removed. Would all posters please think very hard before posting any further speculation, specifically when naming names without proof.

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I used to be lovers with a trans woman. she had beautiful breasts and a pussy that you would never know had been made by a surgeon. and i mean never. there were some small scars on her body, but nothing that would definitively prove her history. i only knew because she was always open about it and had told me early on.

but are you talking about someone who has not had genital surgery? some trans people keep their original genitalia, some don't, some you meet while they are in transition...

A friend of mine is a trans woman, she looks and acts 100% woman to me, I've never seen her naked nor am I likely to, (she's a lesbian) but I would think with with modern surgery there is unlikely to be any. As far as I know she is now legally classed as a woman, so from a legal point of view I would think there is no legal reason why a trans woman escort should tell people that she used to be a man.

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Whats RFO board?

And if a punter has suspicions he is rigth to air them, often these things turn out to be true.

Sorry, RfI = Requests for Information.

I agree witrh Galahad: be careful with your facts. Suspicions based on photos are not facts, they often turn out to be untrue, and unfairly damaging to a WG's livelihood.

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A friend of mine is a trans woman, she looks and acts 100% woman to me, I've never seen her naked nor am I likely to, (she's a lesbian) but I would think with with modern surgery there is unlikely to be any. As far as I know she is now legally classed as a woman, so from a legal point of view I would think there is no legal reason why a trans woman escort should tell people that she used to be a man.

Not true. There is not a surgery in the world that could create a perfect pussy. You can always tell as it is obvious.

Regardless of them being legally classed as a woman, the last thing I want to do is munch on a TG's pussy.

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The thread in question has been removed. Would all posters please think very hard before posting any further speculation, specifically when naming names without proof.

I assure you I have first hand proof of the one's I have listed above.

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Not true. There is not a surgery in the world that could create a perfect pussy. You can always tell as it is obvious.

I was thinking more of a lack of scars.

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Not true. There is not a surgery in the world that could create a perfect pussy. You can always tell as it is obvious.

Regardless of them being legally classed as a woman, the last thing I want to do is munch on a TG's pussy.

I totally agree. As being a TG/TS prostitute is about having sex with mainly guys i would like to know whether she was once a he, it would make a big difference to me, if i find out during the punt i wouldnt be a happy man to put it mildly.

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I totally agree. As being a TG/TS prostitute is about having sex with mainly guys i would like to know whether she was once a he, it would make a big difference to me, if i find out during the punt i wouldnt be a happy man to put it mildly.

Last one I came across was recently in South East Asia in a country where TGs are not that common. Yet I suspected and asked her at the bar if she was one. She was adamant that she was a genuine girl. She said take me and pay me only if you are happy. Back in the room cloths come off and there is the evidence. I pointed out to her and she said how did you know. She said no client had ever been able to spot it. I must say her surgery was one of the best I have ever seen and turned out she was originally from Thailand anyway.

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I had this experience at a palour recently.

Her large hands got me a little suspicious, then the small scar on the neck, the large scar down below... suddenly I became a News Of the World journalist and "made my excuses and left".

Should I complain and ask for my money back?

Should I out the "girl" in question?

Shouldn't the palour say "she" used to be a fella?

Assuming you are sure of course you should complain and ask for your money back, you were not given crucial information and any predominantly non-Gay/Bi Establishment knows many punters wouldnt want to punt with TG/TS prostitutes. In my opinion they should make clear that they offer work to TS/TGs and who they are so you can make an informed choice.

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I had this experience at a palour recently.

Her large hands got me a little suspicious, then the small scar on the neck, the large scar down below... suddenly I became a News Of the World journalist and "made my excuses and left".

Should I complain and ask for my money back?

Should I out the "girl" in question?

Shouldn't the palour say "she" used to be a fella?

Is the lady thai or brazilian? a scar on the neck could be from a op to reduce adam apple, large scar down below dosn't sound right, post ops usually get everything tucked In, could It just of been a Caesarean?

When did you believe she was a he, after clothes were removed or before?

To be honest a few are hard to tell unless your a gynaecologist, but one way to test Is when a woman straightens her arm, it usually hyper-extends a bit at the elbow and the forearm appears to drift slightly to the right. When a mans arm is straightened, it doesn’t hyperextend as much and the upper arm and forearm are more aligned.

As others have said you need to be 100% sure before you name, speak to the establishment, If they have checked her ID/Passport It will say MR or Miss.

It's not always easy to spot a TS by photo, a lot more chance In the flesh, here Is a test, see how many you get right, I only got 60%!! :o

http://www.bangkokdiaries.com/can-you-tell-the-difference-between-a-thai-lady-and-a-thai-ladyboy/

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I don't know. I'm not gay or even bi.... but I getting more tolerant over the years. It just doesn't seem such a massive issue to me.... its so hard to be sure... that I wouldn't run the risk of hurting the other person's feelings.

Mind you if the tojer was still there, I'd politely ask for my money back, plus £50 for hurt feelings if it was bigger than mine.

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Is the lady thai or brazilian? a scar on the neck could be from a op to reduce adam apple, large scar down below dosn't sound right, post ops usually get everything tucked In, could It just of been a Caesarean?

When did you believe she was a he, after clothes were removed or before?

To be honest a few are hard to tell unless your a gynaecologist, but one way to test Is when a woman straightens her arm, it usually hyper-extends a bit at the elbow and the forearm appears to drift slightly to the right. When a mans arm is straightened, it doesn’t hyperextend as much and the upper arm and forearm are more aligned.

As others have said you need to be 100% sure before you name, speak to the establishment, If they have checked her ID/Passport It will say MR or Miss.

It's not always easy to spot a TS by photo, a lot more chance In the flesh, here Is a test, see how many you get right, I only got 60%!! :o

http://www.bangkokdiaries.com/can-you-tell-the-difference-between-a-thai-lady-and-a-thai-ladyboy/

I got the same score. It would help if they showed more than one photo of each lady.

May be we are right and they are wrong. Maybe some are TG's in disguise.

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I win! I got 70%. That's still 30% wrong though, which is more than enough to put me off seeing Thai girls now. There's enough stress in my life already without having to worry about ending up paying a man to shag me.

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....but one way to test Is when a woman straightens her arm, it usually hyper-extends a bit at the elbow and the forearm appears to drift slightly to the right. When a mans arm is straightened, it doesn’t hyperextend as much and the upper arm and forearm are more aligned.

This is because a woman has hips. If a woman tilts her inner elbow more to face her hips, like a mans does, when walking her arm will hit her hips. A man doesn't have hips, thus his arms naturally hang straight down.

In the MyBoob quiz I got 68% and in the ladyboys I got 60% :blink:

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How awful honi x I do remember a guy that I saw last year that turned out to be a he/she. Used to be a woman- was from philipines.

When I first met him- I thought nothing of it because he was dressed in casual wear- baggy jeans etc,. it was only when I was going down on him

I had a strange overwealming feeling something wasn't quite right- I looked up and he said 'it's ok, I just had a operation, so not working

properly at moment'- the balls were at the side of 'penis' rather than hanging down or behind- then I looked at the small faint scars on chest...it was an akward moment as I began to notice other little things, but I sort of empathised with him- we chatted and at first I felt annoyed that he wouldn't of told me he was a she that had an op, but then I thought that was his business and maybe he felt embaressed to say. I know it's not an easy process to go through for individuals in this case- a lot of it is down to genetics and they don't have a choice- rather like being trapped in someone elses body.

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Is the lady thai or brazilian? a scar on the neck could be from a op to reduce adam apple, large scar down below dosn't sound right, post ops usually get everything tucked In, could It just of been a Caesarean?

When did you believe she was a he, after clothes were removed or before?

To be honest a few are hard to tell unless your a gynaecologist, but one way to test Is when a woman straightens her arm, it usually hyper-extends a bit at the elbow and the forearm appears to drift slightly to the right. When a mans arm is straightened, it doesn’t hyperextend as much and the upper arm and forearm are more aligned.

As others have said you need to be 100% sure before you name, speak to the establishment, If they have checked her ID/Passport It will say MR or Miss.

It's not always easy to spot a TS by photo, a lot more chance In the flesh, here Is a test, see how many you get right, I only got 60%!! :o

http://www.bangkokdiaries.com/can-you-tell-the-difference-between-a-thai-lady-and-a-thai-ladyboy/

I got 70% but wasnt sure on a couple so totally guessed. :) Proves an Establishment must say who is or who isnt in my view. The poster Mr Singh had a similar experience to the OP which he posted about if you remember, cant recall if it was through an Establishment or not though.

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