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Looks like I will have a few weeks in Japan from mid August, now the last time I had a punt in Japan was 1969 and it was 860 yen to the pound exchange rate and there were bars for us to meet girls in, next time was about 1975 and these bars had closed as Japan thought they gave a bad impression, there were clubs with girls outside dragging people in but no westerners.

Anyone punted there recently and any suggestions or is it a very expensive minefield.

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Unless you are a fluent speaker and at least look south-east Asian, the help of a Japanese gentleman friend is a reasonable bet.

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As 6' tall and originally with red hair (now grey) do not think I look south asian and as memory serves I think I can tell a girl I like her and count up to 100 but that's about it so it looks like I need a good friend.

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Looks like I will have a few weeks in Japan from mid August, now the last time I had a punt in Japan was 1969 and it was 860 yen to the pound exchange rate and there were bars for us to meet girls in, next time was about 1975 and these bars had closed as Japan thought they gave a bad impression, there were clubs with girls outside dragging people in but no westerners.

Anyone punted there recently and any suggestions or is it a very expensive minefield.

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i was in japan oct 2006 and again oct and nov 2007 ,first time via seoul south korea , and the second time via hong kong ,

at the time the esxchange rates were about 230 235 to the pound , and found tokyo and japan very very reasonable ,but sadly now you only get 145 yen to the pound .

i assume you will be landing in tokyo . ,so your best bet would be to stay in gagin friendly areas where more people would be speaking english ,

AKASAKA in the centre is such an area , loads of restaurants ,clubs two or three british pubs ,where japanese girls would hang there in the hope of practising their english ,so you could end up making a potential free deal .

two areas for first timers in japan ,as tokyo is very spread out ,

from akasaka a short taxi ride to roppongi the nightlife area for expats in tokyo and where p4p can be obtained .

the second area ,is shinguku a 10 minute ride on the metro is the red light district ,where it is more japanesy .

given the exchange rates above i found japan very affordable and fantastic deals to be had at the time,

but a bit of advice avoid the hostess bars in akasaka and roppongi shinguku

it could turn out to be very expensive .

lap dance clubs in roppongi is based on hourly basis you pay by the hour and get drinks included ,and you can buy extra drinks for the girl ,and have a private dance ,where you can actually touch the girl and even have full sex with her there and then . tokyo is the excption to lap dance clubs in the world .

then you have the bj bars massage places , and these vary from one place to another ,and some of them cater to japanese people only .

you have to be specfic as which areas of japan you are visting as they vary in attiude prices etc .

a full punt can vary from 10000 yen to 35000 and what you pay would again vary from one establishment to another .

for an up to date info on the scene in japan ,refer to international sexguide . and world sex guide , also there is a very useful guide tokyo pink guide ,where it explains the whole sex business in tokyo .

for accomodation i n tokyo where a lot of expats stay i would go fo r akasaka

two hotels very good there MAROD and akasaka ches on.

if you do a bit of reseach beforehand tokyo is one of the best places in the world to punt very friendly polit people no tipping so you save a lot .

fantastic deals on food at lunch time , and the sexy girls in their very short skirts in shibbuya ,is a sight not to be missed ,tokyo's king's road .

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Looks like I will have a few weeks in Japan from mid August, now the last time I had a punt in Japan was 1969 and it was 860 yen to the pound exchange rate and there were bars for us to meet girls in, next time was about 1975 and these bars had closed as Japan thought they gave a bad impression, there were clubs with girls outside dragging people in but no westerners.

Anyone punted there recently and any suggestions or is it a very expensive minefield.

barnacle1

my info is based on my trips there oct and nov 2006 and 2007 ,at the time the exchange rate was between 220 to 235 yen to the pound ,now it is around 145 yen to £ .

you do not specify where in japan you are heading to ? ??

if i assume you are going to land in tokyo and stay there for a few days ,so in this case for ease of punting and communication, your best place would be to stay in akasaka or in roppongi ,both places very easy to get to from the airport cost 3000 yen by direct bus .

in akasaka you have two british pubs where very eager japanese girls go there to meet english speaking males and to practise their english , i met quite few this way and i am still in touch with them .

a short taxi ride from akasaka 660 yen takes to the night club and bar areas in roppongi ,plenty of lap dancing and strip clubs there ,.

in these clubs if you go before 8pm ,it is usually cheaper ,they have hourly rates where you get drinks for free once you have paid for the hour ,and you can extend .

any girl you fancy you have to buy her extra drinks , your best bet is to buy her a bottle of wine , then you can take her to a private area ,where every thing is allowed even fs and i got it ,the girl was a very attractive thai girl .i had a great time there at a cost of 55000 yen .

the clubs there have all nationalties but no japanese .

avoid the massage places in roppongi complete waste of money .

for meeting eager ordinary japanses girls in this area roppongi , head to the hub a british pub on the main street great beers and food and was very reasonable ,when i was getting 225 yen to the pound .

there are many hostess clubs in both areas but it can be costly to meet girls this way ,the japanese hostess clubs ,do not allow foreingers .

there are some massage places in akasaka run by chinese and koreans ,the cost aroun d 18000 yen for 90 minutes with he and bbj .

a cheaper and more japanesey area where the red light district is located , is at shinjuku ,a short ride on the metro from akaska .

avoid african touts operating in this area at all costs , i had my drink spiked in one of the clubs there ,

there are a lot of masasge places in this area and brothels ,but you need to specify beforhand to them ,what you need and agree on a price .

costs between 5000to 10000 yen almost half the price of akasakaand roppongi .

but you would really feel an outsider in shinjuku ,due to the lack of white faces there .

there are many bj bars soapies allover the place in tokyo , and i would suggest you have a look on tokyo pink guide , for a more detailed info and prices ,as they vary from one area to the other ,and worlsexguide and internationalsexguide have more detailed and updated reports on the scene in tokyo and japan in general .

i found japan to be very reasonable at the time at the exchange rate of 225 yen per £ you get excellent lunch time deals for around 1000 yen and some of the best indian food outside of london ,very handy after few beers .

and what i liked about japan no tipping anywhere ,so you save quite a bit as well .

very friendly people safe , and excellent service delievered with a smile .

ps have a look onsome of the lovely japanese girls on some of the escort web sites on tokyo pink guide 20000 for 40 minutes in your place .

hope the above helps , enjoy your trip and report back ,i can't wait to go back waiting for the £ to go up .

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Thanks for the very comprehensive reply, unfortunately although I have been told the date, 17th I have not been told the destination yet, hopefully I will find out on monday in Switzerland (I finally found out I will be in Winterthur near Zurich, looks expensive for punting). Usually for Japan it will be some small city near the sea probably not near Tokyo. Through the wonders of the internet I should still be able to log on so I will kiss and tell.

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I was in Tokyo two years ago and was invited out for a meal by my hosts. The usual work affair so was not expecting anything too exciting. Well we went to a Club with all girls dressed as Bunny Girls. Very nice but very civilised and only looking was allowed. Well by the time the meal ended and I was back in my hotel I was very horney. So went out for a evening stroll and ended up in an area with some bars and girls. Well I soon got the offer of a massage from a reasonable looking girl and took her up on the offer. After all I was on high alert. Well a good massage followed and she did finish me off nicely by hand. Again all very civilised and polite, the experience cost approx £50 and was acceptable at the time although I was after a little more.

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Sounds good! What's a BJ bar? Sounds cool!

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Sounds good! What's a BJ bar? Sounds cool!

simialar to l*litas blow job bar in bangkok , you go in have a drink and the girl will give you oral ,either by the bar ,or in a private area .

in tokyo and kyoto prices very between 5000yen to 15000 yen ,depends on area and location .

but unlike bangkok many of these places are for japanese only ,and won't allow gajin ,foreigners in there .

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Have been in Hokkaido for 2 weeks. Total fucking desert for gaijin. Can`t wait to get home on Monday!

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Japanese women are into western men, even quite dodgy looking old guys like me get their balls felt on the subways. Worth trying to pick one up even if you have no Japanese. They have a drinking culture and their bars are always very sociable places, if I get approached, anyone can.

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simialar to l*litas blow job bar in bangkok , you go in have a drink and the girl will give you oral ,either by the bar ,or in a private area .

in tokyo and kyoto prices very between 5000yen to 15000 yen ,depends on area and location .

but unlike bangkok many of these places are for japanese only ,and won't allow gajin ,foreigners in there .

Phnom Pehn is much less expensive for this sort of thing. But seems to be getting poorer punting ground by the week sadly. Grab it while you can.

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Have been in Hokkaido for 2 weeks. Total fucking desert for gaijin. Can`t wait to get home on Monday!

desert? you have places like

sapporo beer garden all you can eat and drink,

http://www.sapporo-bier-garten.jp/foreign/english.php

and that is not the only such place

but first, go to noboribetsu onsen to build up a serious thirst

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desert? you have places like

sapporo beer garden all you can eat and drink,

http://www.sapporo-bier-garten.jp/foreign/english.php

and that is not the only such place

but first, go to noboribetsu onsen to build up a serious thirst

Um, hello. I agree the beer & food is good (Asahi & Jingis Khan my faves) but its a FUCKING desert for any non-Japanese fancying a punt in my experience.

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Looks like I will have a few weeks in Japan from mid August, now the last time I had a punt in Japan was 1969 and it was 860 yen to the pound exchange rate and there were bars for us to meet girls in, next time was about 1975 and these bars had closed as Japan thought they gave a bad impression, there were clubs with girls outside dragging people in but no westerners.

Anyone punted there recently and any suggestions or is it a very expensive minefield.

barnacle1

I lived for 5 years in Japan back in the 1980s. It was awash with ladies and although married at the time I was never short of very discreet company. At one time I was running 3 friends at the same time. At no time over those 5 years did I pay a penny. Not one. How? Just meeting girls in the course of work or during a quiet drink. They love the English English and are charmed by easy good manners.

Hostess bars do not deliver the goods and can be incredibly expensive.

PM me if you would like some specific advice

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As a lover of Japanese girls I have researched it in depth as I was very tempted.

What I found was that it was very expensive. Hence why there are so many Japanese in Thailand punting.

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I lived for 5 years in Japan back in the 1980s. It was awash with ladies and although married at the time I was never short of very discreet company. At one time I was running 3 friends at the same time. At no time over those 5 years did I pay a penny. Not one. How? Just meeting girls in the course of work or during a quiet drink. They love the English English and are charmed by easy good manners.

Hostess bars do not deliver the goods and can be incredibly expensive.

PM me if you would like some specific advice

This is more or less not only what I've been told by other punters but by ordinary Japanese men and women. Stay in Japan for a while and you will get a girlfriend!

But what you don't mention is that it is very different when you arrive. Japanese people would volunteer advice to me, but usually with the proviso that I stay rather longer than any of my trips so far (the longest of which was a few weeks).

They seem both entranced and slightly fearful. I remember some years ago (but not that many), a discussion that centred around a letter to a newspaper where the querent had said she had held the handrail on a bus immediately after a foreigner had touched it and could she get AIDS like this?

We forget how insular Japan is. It's nearest other land mass is China, which is not exactly their best of mates.

Mostly, when I've been offered a WG in Japan, it has turned out to be a Korean. When I complained, the price rocketed if I wanted a 'real' Japanese woman!

Similarly, in many parts of south-east Asia, WGs who can pass themselves off as Japanese often will do so. Even when they can't tell the difference between arigato gosai mass and arigato! Most of them don't even get past Konnichiwa.

As for hostess bars, they are an insight into Japanese thinking. Look for much tackier, inconspicuous places, preferably with a guide, in the backstreets of the city. At a hostess bar, you don't get to touch the girl much less take her home. Like almost everything else in Japan, the cultural mores come from a totally different universe.

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Well up to now nothing, found a mama san in a small bar who speaks english and gives gifts of small items of china but that's it. Have located a place an hour away with a large American base and bars with mainly filipinos so going to take a look tonight, probably expensive but on the other hand I didn't spend on a punt for almost 5 weeks now.

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Well up to now nothing, found a mama san in a small bar who speaks english and gives gifts of small items of china but that's it. Have located a place an hour away with a large American base and bars with mainly filipinos so going to take a look tonight, probably expensive but on the other hand I didn't spend on a punt for almost 5 weeks now.

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I've just come back and my host arranged everything from communal bathing to massage and sex. I speak business japanese which is a useful ice breaker.

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Ikebukuro in Tokyo.

Kyoto too, I can't remember the name of the district but it's down near the river. Lots of clubs and bars patrolled by the yakuza so it feels really sleazy but is perfectly safe. I had a particularly memorable time in the open air one very hot August night about eight years ago. I can't remember the prices exactly but they're comparable to here.

Nagoya also has a good redlight district.

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Well a disaster, the best we found was a bar where the girls wear thongs and a lacey top with vecro fasteners, it costs about 30 USD to enter and one girl sits with you, her drink costs USD 10, every 30 min a bell rings and the girls all get up and move around, sit on you knee pull open the vecro and let you feel their tits for 30 sec then another bell and a new girl on your knee but only touching. when they all have passed around it goes back to normal.

I can't believe that in a town with more than 10,000 US navey personnel there is nothing.

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Well a disaster, the best we found was a bar where the girls wear thongs and a lacey top with vecro fasteners, it costs about 30 USD to enter and one girl sits with you, her drink costs USD 10, every 30 min a bell rings and the girls all get up and move around, sit on you knee pull open the vecro and let you feel their tits for 30 sec then another bell and a new girl on your knee but only touching. when they all have passed around it goes back to normal.

I can't believe that in a town with more than 10,000 US navey personnel there is nothing.

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Hey! I really fancy a bit of that! What town, name of bar etc if you remember? And do they have no problem with entertaining Gaijin? More info please as I hope to go to Japan again before too long!

I bet a place like that'd go down a storm in the UK. Much better value than the place I found in London on Friday:

www.toplessbars.co.uk

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