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Hi,

I'm a total newbie, looking to punt. But unlike many of you seasoned punters i am not so confident of spotting a fake in directories or on **. [Especially where young girls look too good, i just think its some kind of trap.]

Obviously you can't name names or make wild allegations, but some basic tell-tale signs which would give away a fake or hoax escort advert would be really helpful to me and i'm sure many others.

Cheers

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Depends on what you are call a fake!

A bait and switch (a real wg using pics that are not her), usually the pics are of high quality and all from the same set, as they have be lifted off of a porn site etc. A wg using real pics of her, will often have some self-takes and her pics will be in a varity of outfits and locations. Low quality pics (in photographic terms) are often a positive sign.

The other site has feedback to go on. It also costs money to display a phone number and have the availble green writing on a profile. These are all good signs that the profile is not just someone trying to get you to subscribe to a private gallery.

You could also try asking here for the type of girl you wish to see and your location, I'm sure someone will be able to give you a good recommendation!

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Hi,

I'm a total newbie, looking to punt. But unlike many of you seasoned punters i am not so confident of spotting a fake in directories or on **. [Especially where young girls look too good, i just think its some kind of trap.]

Obviously you can't name names or make wild allegations, but some basic tell-tale signs which would give away a fake or hoax escort advert would be really helpful to me and i'm sure many others.

Cheers

It kind of depends what you mean by fake...

If you mean "bait and switch" then in addition to Kid A's tips tineye is useful to cross reference the pics to check they are not blatant fakes.

If you mean the "private gallery scams" the best way to spot these is if they have no phone number and don't respond to any emails.

If you mean something more sinister, like girls that will run away with the cash... thankfully these are quite rare and I've never personally experienced anything like this. You can check this forum for any specific warnings and if it looks too good to be true... it probably is! Also if it's an outcall and she asks for the money up front to pay for a "taxi" then only give her enough for the taxi.

Overall, I'd say that the best source of info on non-fake girls are the FRs on this site and recommendations on this forum... the feedback on the other site can be helpful too... it is worth cross referencing any feedback though, you can check the punter's other FRs on this site or see if they have some of their own feedback on the other site... this should give you a pretty good idea about if it can be relied upon or not.

Happy punting!

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For your first punt you may want to take a bit of time choosing your first girl. Well, you want to get it right and it's a big deal, so you're not just going to say "sod it" and book the first girl that ** comes up with anyway, are you? Bearing in that in mind, you can opt to go for a girl with a lot of experience and plenty of positive feedback first time around so you know you won't be ripped off. After you've got the first one under your belt you'll have a better idea of what's right and what's dodgy and it won't be such a big deal.

Other than that, girls nearly always want money up front for obvious reasons. But be weary of being rushed in to handing over your money before you get in through the door, or paying for taxis or paying her driver etc. Parlours/Brothels may be different, but with an indie you should have a minute to sit down, say "hello" and look her up and down to make sure no one has played the old switch-a-roo on you. You want to see the girl you booked in the room (or at least in the building) before you get any money out. Other than that, it's just pot luck I'm afraid. A good con would probably fool most people, but with experience you can at least keep a cool head and develop a nose for anything that isn't right.

The biggest con is simple stuff like fake pictures, and Ben82's tineye will often spot those, or charging extras for services without advertising the fact. This is low level stuff and is easily dealt with by putting your money away and leaving. Actual criminal rip offs are either very rare or it's rare that punters admit to being caught out.

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Ways to detect a probable fake on the other site:

photos are very glamorously professional showing off a perfect girl

photos with the girl holding the camera infront of a mirror - plenty of those can be copied from ex girlfriend porn sites

profiles without a phone number

profiles with 0 ratings, 1-3 ratings, or very little ratings comparing to the age of the profile

beautiful model-like girls offering bareback though such profiles are very rare anyway, the majority of WG's offering bareback are never good looking

her profile ratings window is blocked.

Always ask her for her phone number when you enquire about meeting her, never give your phone number. If she has ratings then shes worthy of putting on her profile "i will NOT be giving our my number or email address until a booking on ** is made".

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Great!

Thanks for your help guys.

I didn't think about the photos with the girl holding the camera in front of a mirror. I saw a girl offering BB on the other site and just felt worried for her - how naive am I ! I understand the cloak and dagger stuff, but the prospect of switching from that frame of mind - into the frame of mind for frollicking ;) seems quite challenging.

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Hi,

I'm a total newbie, looking to punt. But unlike many of you seasoned punters i am not so confident of spotting a fake in directories or on **. [Especially where young girls look too good, i just think its some kind of trap.]

Obviously you can't name names or make wild allegations, but some basic tell-tale signs which would give away a fake or hoax escort advert would be really helpful to me and i'm sure many others.

Cheers

Being from the other side of the fence so to speak, I don't see how you can be conned by a fake. If you see a photograph of Daisy of Dagenham, and you arrive to find Escortzilla standing in for her, you can simply walk away.

You have of course wasted a little time and effort and maybe its a good idea to put that T&E into some research before you book to help you avoid the time wasters on some of these amateur sites.

It must be a man thing. If I buy or order an item and its not what I asked for then it goes straight back and I go elsewhere! Why can't you just walk away. Why do men accept less than they should reasonably expect?

Youre all very strange

boys.

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I think part of it is the embarassment factor - you have to tell a girl to her face that you don't want to sleep with her.

You're also assuming an incall - it's even tougher on an outcall. The last thing I want is to have an angry WG yelling in my house.

Also don't underestimate the 'little brain' factor. Often you think 'she'll do' when she's not ideal, but can do something about the bulge in your trousers!

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I think part of it is the embarassment factor - you have to tell a girl to her face that you don't want to sleep with her.

You're also assuming an incall - it's even tougher on an outcall. The last thing I want is to have an angry WG yelling in my house.

Also don't underestimate the 'little brain' factor. Often you think 'she'll do' when she's not ideal, but can do something about the bulge in your trousers!

Whereas i feel no embarrassment nowadays, its the lying WG that should be embarrassed for the lying. I virtually only ever do incalls now and i just walk, some shout abuse which re-enforces i was right to leave hopefully before she got her hands on my cash.

Always if possible have options so you have no need to think with your dick, its what all bad providers rely on the punter doing.

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Hi,

I'm a total newbie, looking to punt. But unlike many of you seasoned punters i am not so confident of spotting a fake in directories or on **. [Especially where young girls look too good, i just think its some kind of trap.]

Obviously you can't name names or make wild allegations, but some basic tell-tale signs which would give away a fake or hoax escort advert would be really helpful to me and i'm sure many others.

Cheers

Few of the really worthwhile girls I've seen from there have Private Galleries, though all have pictures, since that is one of my search criteria. The ones with Private Galleries are often in it for what they can get from that and possibly webcam activities rather than from providing full sexual services.

Include rating (as escort) as one of your criteria and look through the feedback.

Consider whether the wording of the profile is appealing and also whether it seems likely to have been written by the girl herself (EE girls who write perfect English are rare!).

Don't waste time on girls who don't show their phone numbers.

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Beware of girls with high feedback in a very short space of time. I've seen loads of profiles with 6-10 reports within 4-5 days. Given that most punters will not leave feedback it's a pretty sure sign that these are fake. Also check out who is giving the fedback to see if they have feedback themselves. If the guy leaving it has feedback from other WGs over a period of time then it would look likely that she is ok.

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Few of the really worthwhile girls I've seen from there have Private Galleries, though all have pictures, since that is one of my search criteria. The ones with Private Galleries are often in it for what they can get from that and possibly webcam activities rather than from providing full sexual services.

Include rating (as escort) as one of your criteria and look through the feedback.

Consider whether the wording of the profile is appealing and also whether it seems likely to have been written by the girl herself (EE girls who write perfect English are rare!).

Don't waste time on girls who don't show their phone numbers.

Not saying you're wrong in all regards, but I wouldn't make the assumption that you do re private galleries. I have mine purely as a means to hopefully cover the daily cost of the phone number display. Others I know who have more extensive galleries than mine, use it for alternate features on the site to raise their profile and promote their business.

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Few of the really worthwhile girls I've seen from there have Private Galleries, though all have pictures, since that is one of my search criteria. The ones with Private Galleries are often in it for what they can get from that and possibly webcam activities rather than from providing full sexual services.

I wouldn't reject ALL Private Gallery ladies! I think you need to look at the price/time first. A lady charging a quid or thirty bob for three days is usually (in my experience) genuine, whereas those asking for three or four (or more) quid for 24hrs are probably in the market simply to sell their porno fotos!

I'd most certainly agree that unless there is a very good explanation for the lack of a telephone number in the profile, that is a very good pointer to a scam. Several ladies charging just a quid for three days have told me that they pay for showing their telephone number (although the profile is free, the telephone number is charged for!) with the private gallery.

Edited by Irgendeiner

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Not saying you're wrong in all regards, but I wouldn't make the assumption that you do re private galleries. I have mine purely as a means to hopefully cover the daily cost of the phone number display. Others I know who have more extensive galleries than mine, use it for alternate features on the site to raise their profile and promote their business.

Apologies, Karin. I had no intention of damaging anyone's business. I think it may be just an unjustifiable generalisation on my part. It is essential to look at the totality of the lady's published material and feedback to get a realistic assessment. I have certainly seen some absolute crackers who do have private galleries.

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I wouldn't reject ALL Private Gallery ladies! I think you need to look at the price/time first. A lady charging a quid or thirty bob for three days is usually (in my experience) genuine, whereas those asking for three or four (or more) quid for 24hrs are probably in the market simply to sell their porno fotos!

I'd most certainly agree that unless there is a very good explanation for the lack of a telephone number in the profile, that is a very good pointer to a scam. Several ladies charging just a quid for three days have told me that they pay for showing their telephone number (although the profile is free, the telephone number is charged for!) with the private gallery.

I think generalisations always have issues for example a newish star on the scene charges 3 a day for photos and a lot for movies, but for her regularly adding new shots and blogs seems to be a way of making her profile stand out and justify her high punting prices. I can verify hers is a real profile and there are a few others out there like that...

Still fairly new here but so far I look for multiple signs to spot a fake, so far it's worked

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