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What Percentage Of Men Use Sex Workers?

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  1. 1. What percentage of men use sex workers?


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I genuinely and honestly want to know how "normal" I, as someone who uses sex workers, actually am, that's all. I think that this has got to be the best place to ask this question, and I'd really appreciate some real honesty please. I'd like views from both WG's and punters please.

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I genuinely and honestly want to know how "normal" I, as someone who uses sex workers, actually am, that's all. I think that this has got to be the best place to ask this question, and I'd really appreciate some real honesty please. I'd like views from both WG's and punters please.

And what makes you think this is the best way to ask? How can any of us really know which option to select or the answer to your question with any accuracy, or am I missing something?:unsure:

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I've read in one place that it's about 10%, and in another that 75% have 'visited a prostitute or considered it' which is kind of a useless one :P No idea how accurate either of those are.

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And what makes you think this is the best way to ask? How can any of us really know which option to select or the answer to your question with any accuracy, or am I missing something?:unsure:

I imagine that the posters on this board might have a good insight into what percentage, but I've really no idea how to ask this question, I just want to know for my own personal reasons, so please don't take offence by me asking.

By the way, I think you can see by my profile that I'm not a troll, or one of those "here today, gone later today" posters posing as a student who's doing a dissertation.

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According to the BBC, Men are worried about heavy internet porn use.

"Two-thirds of men and half the women said that looking at porn was fine in moderation"

"But a quarter of all men in the survey said there were worried about the amount of porn they were looking at"

"Men who look at porn for 10 hours a week are much more likely to worry it is influencing their behaviour, the survey suggested.

Higher numbers of those heavy users said their porn viewing had upset a partner or caused them to miss a meeting at work.

Men looking at porn for at least 10 hours a week were also more likely to say it can put them off real-life sex."

So if you permit me to extrapolate a theory, using the bullet points I've drawn from the above BBC's article, a quarter of all men look at porn for more than 10 hours a week, and therefore aren't the "average". If you imagine that these men might visit sex workers, because say, their heavy use of porn has "put them off real-life sex" (maybe with the missus?), then that gives you a figure:

At least 25% of all men visit sex workers.

Anyone care to argue the point?

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I genuinely and honestly want to know how "normal" I, as someone who uses sex workers, actually am, that's all. I think that this has got to be the best place to ask this question, and I'd really appreciate some real honesty please. I'd like views from both WG's and punters please.

I dont know what percentage of men use working girls but I would imagine it is quite high. For a lot of men in normal relationships it gets boring so they look for that something more and where better to find it. A lot of married guys have said to me I love my wife but the sex is either non existant or not often enough, or they simply like variety. Then there are some single guys who dont want to be tied into a relationship but just want sex. There are so many different examples thats why I think the percentage is probably high.

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I genuinely and honestly want to know how "normal" I, as someone who uses sex workers, actually am, that's all. I think that this has got to be the best place to ask this question, and I'd really appreciate some real honesty please. I'd like views from both WG's and punters please.

I'm not sure what "normal" is. However, clearly with the figures speculated around 10-25% that is nowhere near the majority or "normal".

I'd say most men don't visit escorts.

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I've been to a couple of stag nights abroad that coincidentally end up being in a town with a red light district (Hamburg, Amsterdam, Prague). About 1/3rd of the guys will end up going outside for a fag that will take a suspiciously long time, or go off sight seeing on their own at some point. I don't know if the guys are giving themselves an occasional treat or regular users of sex workers back home, perhaps the beer makes them braver, or being with their mates makes them less brave, but it's definitely not that uncommon. I refuse to see sex workers abroad so guys like me look squeaky clean on the outside even if we're really dirty dogs too.

I've sometimes wondered if we could extrapolate a percentage by counting up the number of sex workers openly advertising in an area at any given time, comparing that to the total population and then making a guess at how many unique clients each girl has on average. But the number of unique clients is too hard to estimate, and it's really nerdy, so I haven't done it yet! rolleyes.gif

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I genuinely and honestly want to know how "normal" I, as someone who uses sex workers, actually am, that's all. I think that this has got to be the best place to ask this question, and I'd really appreciate some real honesty please. I'd like views from both WG's and punters please.

Its all guess work mainly because understandably most punters dont tell anyone. My guess is somewhere around 5-10% of men are punters or been punters.

Any figures given by any organisation are best guesses, i dont believe there is any definitive factual figures and its not possible to collate them accurately in my opinion.

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Another issue is what is meant by using SPs. Is this regular, irregular, occasionally, a one off, during a certain period, or what?

Does a one off visit during a single period count?

Perhaps the recent Census should have asked such questions?

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Another issue is what is meant by using SPs. Is this regular, irregular, occasionally, a one off, during a certain period, or what?

Does a one off visit during a single period count?

Perhaps the recent Census should have asked such questions?

Good point i was thinking similar, my guess is in regard to all but one-off punts, anything else shows a pattern of punting in my view.

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you have to define what you mean

i reckon there is about 10% of blokes who are active, i.e have seen a wg and intend to see one again soon

but i reckon there is a churn of blokes as some stop and others take it up.

so how many blokes have punted ever. i reckon prob about 50%

and how many women have ever been paid for it. I reckon loads going by the way girls come and go from parlours.

will we ever find out for sure. no.

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About half of men visit sex workers, but that isn't an option on the survey.

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About half of men visit sex workers, but that isn't an option on the survey.

How do you know this or why do you think this?

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When I was young, 18-25, I would never have dreamed of visiting a WG or parlour. Some of my friends went and used to talk about it and I always took the moral high ground. Later I became more aware of the sex industry and was even offered girls in a social environment. I attended stag nights and witnessed full intercourse with the groom and WGs on more than one occasion. Eventually, in my forties I thought I'd have a go and have been a regular for about eight years. I've always listened carefully to what WGs have told me about clients and their profiles. My guess is that in their lifetime a mojority of men have paid for sex at least once. And that regular users are probably in the 5-10% area. But possibly the demographic is important as it takes money.

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The most reliable information we have on how many men pay for sex comes from the National Survey of Sexual Attitudes and Lifestyles, funded by the Medical Research Council and others. It is a very high quality, representative sample survey conducted every 10 years. The latest survey was conducted last year and is still being analyzed so currently there is data only for 1990 and 2000.

The 2000 survey showed that the proportion of men who reported paying women for sex in the previous 5 years increased from 2% in 1990 to 4.2% in 2000. There was no association with ethnicity, social class, homosexual contact, or injecting drug use, i.e. punters are a very mixed group of people. Men who paid for sex were more likely to report 10 or more sexual partners in the previous 5 years; only a minority of their lifetime sexual partners (19.3%) were commercial. They were more likely to meet partners abroad (punters play home and away) and to report a previous STI.

Overall the proportion of men who said they had ever paid for sex was 5% in 1990 and 10% in 2000. That increase might partly be to do with the greater ease of punting with the advent of the internet. Similar recent surveys conducted in the USA and Australia gave a proportion of 15% of men who had ever paid for sex and 2% who had in the previous year.

Now, given we all like to think we are 'normal', you may doubt these rather low figures. If you do, ask yourself if you would be honest if invited to take part in a properly conducted medical survey on sex which gives full guarantees of confidentiality and fully explains the need for reliable data for serious medical research. But before you shout 'foul', read this:

http://www.natcen.ac...ical_report.pdf

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The most reliable information we have on how many men pay for sex comes from the National Survey of Sexual Attitudes and Lifestyles, funded by the Medical Research Council and others. It is a very high quality, representative sample survey conducted every 10 years. The latest survey was conducted last year and is still being analyzed so currently there is data only for 1990 and 2000.

The 2000 survey showed that the proportion of men who reported paying women for sex in the previous 5 years increased from 2% in 1990 to 4.2% in 2000. There was no association with ethnicity, social class, homosexual contact, or injecting drug use, i.e. punters are a very mixed group of people. Men who paid for sex were more likely to report 10 or more sexual partners in the previous 5 years; only a minority of their lifetime sexual partners (19.3%) were commercial. They were more likely to meet partners abroad (punters play home and away) and to report a previous STI.

Overall the proportion of men who said they had ever paid for sex was 5% in 1990 and 10% in 2000. That increase might partly be to do with the greater ease of punting with the advent of the internet. Similar recent surveys conducted in the USA and Australia gave a proportion of 15% of men who had ever paid for sex and 2% who had in the previous year.

Now, given we all like to think we are 'normal', you may doubt these rather low figures. If you do, ask yourself if you would be honest if invited to take part in a properly conducted medical survey on sex which gives full guarantees of confidentiality and fully explains the need for reliable data for serious medical research. But before you shout 'foul', read this:

http://www.natcen.ac...ical_report.pdf

I am afraid I am dubiuos about these surveys. When doing family tree research I have always been told to remember that census and BMD data is what people have told the enumerator/registrar, not what actually is the truth. And by comparing the raw data we find many untruths being recorded in official records.

Prof and I have had argumnts about the accuracy of statistical data such as this, but i am afraid I take a more cynical view than he does. People will generally tell interviewers what they want to hear rather then the truth. I rather think if I was sampled for such a survey I would lie to them....

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I am afraid I am dubiuos about these surveys. When doing family tree research I have always been told to remember that census and BMD data is what people have told the enumerator/registrar, not what actually is the truth. And by comparing the raw data we find many untruths being recorded in official records.

Prof and I have had argumnts about the accuracy of statistical data such as this, but i am afraid I take a more cynical view than he does. People will generally tell interviewers what they want to hear rather then the truth. I rather think if I was sampled for such a survey I would lie to them....

Indeed we have argued about it! While there is measurement error associated with any kind of observation, be it in natural science or social science, researchers have long experience of how to reduce it. You clearly haven't read the technical report (see p.9) ;) . Answers to questions on paid sex and various other issues were done via a self-administered questionnaire, not a face-to-face interviewer administered one. That is precisely because researchers know that, for sensitive questions, this is the best way of getting honest answers.The whole conduct of high quality survey research is much more rigorous than you might imagine. Social desirability (telling folk 'what they want to hear') has been thoroughly researched and is taken into account in the design of surveys where it is likely to be a real problem.

Now, can I think of an IT issue where you know more than me, but I wish to tell you that you are wrong? ;)

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I genuinely and honestly want to know how "normal" I, as someone who uses sex workers, actually am, that's all. I think that this has got to be the best place to ask this question, and I'd really appreciate some real honesty please. I'd like views from both WG's and punters please.

Why care whether its 'normal' or not to employ the services of sex workers ?

If you're genuinely comfortable with what you do, have no moral or religious hangups about it, suffer no guilt, youre harming no-one either physically or psychologically and you enjoy it then why worry yourself about how 'normal' it is ?

Your post makes me think that you cant answer 'yes' to many of those points so I'd suggest that punting most likely isnt for you

By 'normal' I take it you mean 'common' ?

Commonality is by no means an indicator of whether or not a certain activity/pursuit is desirable or healthy in any case

Regularly gorging oneself on alcohol to the point where you throw up and/or cant remember what you were doing the morning after is fairly common within the UK. Does that make borderline alcoholism 'normal' and so justify those who indulge in this pastime/lifestyle, and validate the activity itself?

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I would love to know how many men have ever paid for sex, how many times or how often. Also what services are they or were they.

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I don't really see what how common it is has to do with how normal it is. I mean, we wouldn't say someone was 'abnormal' for having a job in a small specialised field for example, where there's only a handful of people with experience of that job. They're a minority but it doesn't make them weird :P These days most civilised people don't consider being gay to be abnormal, but gay/lesbian people are still a minority (usually estimated about 10%, same as punters, interestingly enough ;P). There's lots of jobs, life choices, sexualities etc that are minority but not weird or abnormal or anything, they just aren't common. People are all different.

Paying for sex is, IMO, normal but not common. I would say that men who pay for sex (and the tiny number of women who do) are in some ways quite progressive and enlightened - being able to reduce sex down to a purely physical experience or a fantasy is a skill, and being able to take a step back from what judgemental people might think and realising that paying to get exactly what you enjoy is just smart (we all do it with pretty much everything else in life!).

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The most reliable information we have on how many men pay for sex comes from the National Survey of Sexual Attitudes and Lifestyles, funded by the Medical Research Council and others. It is a very high quality, representative sample survey conducted every 10 years. The latest survey was conducted last year and is still being analyzed so currently there is data only for 1990 and 2000.

The 2000 survey showed that the proportion of men who reported paying women for sex in the previous 5 years increased from 2% in 1990 to 4.2% in 2000. There was no association with ethnicity, social class, homosexual contact, or injecting drug use, i.e. punters are a very mixed group of people. Men who paid for sex were more likely to report 10 or more sexual partners in the previous 5 years; only a minority of their lifetime sexual partners (19.3%) were commercial. They were more likely to meet partners abroad (punters play home and away) and to report a previous STI.

Overall the proportion of men who said they had ever paid for sex was 5% in 1990 and 10% in 2000. That increase might partly be to do with the greater ease of punting with the advent of the internet. Similar recent surveys conducted in the USA and Australia gave a proportion of 15% of men who had ever paid for sex and 2% who had in the previous year.

Now, given we all like to think we are 'normal', you may doubt these rather low figures. If you do, ask yourself if you would be honest if invited to take part in a properly conducted medical survey on sex which gives full guarantees of confidentiality and fully explains the need for reliable data for serious medical research. But before you shout 'foul', read this:

http://www.natcen.ac...ical_report.pdf

Good information as ever Profman. I am highly dubious of stats for punting but the percentages for 1990 and 2000 dont seem low to me, around what i think is probable, based on my best guess and thats all. :)

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If most men knew how good it was to see a WG and that the general perception of the scene is wrong then the % of men using this service would be much much higher.

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If most men knew how good it was to see a WG and that the general perception of the scene is wrong then the % of men using this service would be much much higher.

From one Uncle to another - This poll is rubbish and you have contributed just about the most sensible answer it is possible to imagine whilst remaining polite. I wish I had your restraint.

Cheers

Uncle Pokey

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If most men knew how good it was to see a WG and that the general perception of the scene is wrong then the % of men using this service would be much much higher.

I completely agree.

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