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I recently viewed a profile gallery of a lady and was struck by something I found a little strange!

She had some clear face pictures, together with body shots with a cropped or blurred head! What conclusion would this make you came to? I should add that the body shots were of a fantastically toned female body!

When I emailed her and pointed out that it look deceptive (note, I didn’t say it was, but just looked that way), she went nuts! She made me feel like it was being unreasonable and insulting to her, but at the same time she didn’t explain, in any way, why her pictures were like they were! I know I can be a little brash with people, but I didn’t think my enquiry was unreasonable?

Am I missing something here?

Am I correct to be sceptical?

What is the point in what she is doing, if the pictures are all genuine?

Any comments are welcome, even if to point out that I was being unreasonable. T

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Your enquiry was certainly not unreasonable.

The amount of fake pictures out there is huge especially on the purple site where it seems the fake profiles/pictures are now in the majority.

You can use google image search or tinyeye if you are suspicious about a wg pictures.

Why don't you include a link so we can all have a look.

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I recently viewed a profile gallery of a lady and was struck by something I found a little strange!

She had some clear face pictures, together with body shots with a cropped or blurred head! What conclusion would this make you came to? I should add that the body shots were of a fantastically toned female body!

When I emailed her and pointed out that it look deceptive (note, I didn’t say it was, but just looked that way), she went nuts! She made me feel like it was being unreasonable and insulting to her, but at the same time she didn’t explain, in any way, why her pictures were like they were! I know I can be a little brash with people, but I didn’t think my enquiry was unreasonable?

Am I missing something here?

Am I correct to be sceptical?

What is the point in what she is doing, if the pictures are all genuine?

Any comments are welcome, even if to point out that I was being unreasonable. T

Could it be that the lady has only recently started to show her face and the 'body' ones might be from a previous set? I have a mixture on my site as I've only had full face pictures up for a few months and the others are cropped, although most show at least a bit of my face (you can almost see the progession right up to the point where I said sod it). I don't believe I needed to bin a lot of perfectly good pictures just because my head isn't in all of them?

I don't think you should have suggested she was trying to deceive people - we get accused of lying about everything so often it gets very tiresome and irritating, but I can see why you would want it clarifying. Maybe you could have asked which the most recent images were?

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I recently viewed a profile gallery of a lady and was struck by something I found a little strange!

She had some clear face pictures, together with body shots with a cropped or blurred head! What conclusion would this make you came to? I should add that the body shots were of a fantastically toned female body!

When I emailed her and pointed out that it look deceptive (note, I didn’t say it was, but just looked that way), she went nuts! She made me feel like it was being unreasonable and insulting to her, but at the same time she didn’t explain, in any way, why her pictures were like they were! I know I can be a little brash with people, but I didn’t think my enquiry was unreasonable?

Am I missing something here?

Am I correct to be sceptical?

What is the point in what she is doing, if the pictures are all genuine?

Any comments are welcome, even if to point out that I was being unreasonable. T

Its entirely reasonable to ask whatever questions you require an answer to so you can make an informed decision as to whether to punt with a WG or not. Her reaction would ensure i took my business elsewhere.

Always be sceptical in punting, i cetaintly am. Unless she is brand new i assume she gets punters with these pictures so she doesnt feel the need to change them.

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Its entirely reasonable to ask whatever questions you require an answer to so you can make an informed decision as to whether to punt with a WG or not. Her reaction would ensure i took my business elsewhere.

Always be sceptical in punting, i cetaintly am. Unless she is brand new i assume she gets punters with these pictures so she doesnt feel the need to change them.

Smiths is of the same attitude as myself and I believe he is 100% right

Such a ridiculous over-reaction on her part, and the fact that she didnt attempt to provide any answers to a genuine and justifiable concern of yours should tell you: DO NOT EVEN ENTERTAIN THE NOTION OF GIVING HER ANY OF YOUR CASH FOR SEXUAL SERVICES

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Thanks for the comments so far.....

In the past hour she has changed many of her photos, still no body shots that show her face! Her new picturs are all from a different set. I ran a tineye scan on them all....they appear on a website called northenbelle escort agency, not sure if this is relavent but we both live in Suffolk! I emailed her to ask if she has worked for this agency and what her name was if she did, I didn't say anything about tin eye. I await her response.

One of her responses to me was, that I was the sort of client that tarred the industry with the wrong brush! I don't understand what she ment, I had every intention of booking her this evening, if she could have resolved the picture dilemma, with a believe explaination or if she could have emailed me a picture showing her body and face, which I requested.

As the booking was to be an outcall to my home, I don't want to risk a scene on my doorstep with a girl who has not been honest with me and I turned away, hence my caution!

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In the past hour she has changed many of her photos, still no body shots that show her face! Her new picturs are all from a different set. I ran a tineye scan on them all....they appear on a website called northenbelle escort agency, not sure if this is relavent but we both live in Suffolk! I emailed her to ask if she has worked for this agency and what her name was if she did, I didn't say anything about tin eye. I await her response.

I just wonder whether you have tried downloading (right click, and save) any of her photos (not, of course, from "that other site")?

It never ceases to amaze me how many ladies, called, say, "Jane" put up photos with file name "Mary01.jpg, Mary02.jpg...." etc. While you are looking at the image files, do you look to see if the Exif data is still there, and if it is, at the dates (date the photo was taken, date it was saved after photoshopping)?

Time spent on recconaissance is seldom wasted.

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Don't know why you're even considering booking this girl!! Aren't alarm bells ringing very loudly ??! Listen to them !!

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Don't know why you're even considering booking this girl!! Aren't alarm bells ringing very loudly ??! Listen to them !!

I live in a punting desert, it's not as easy as dimissing someone because they don't appear to be genuine, without doing some digging.

In this case, I'm glad to say that the girl provided further information, regarging having worked for an agency and this all checked out, but I had to ask her, she didn't give this up at the start, which would have sorted it out there and then. The picture dilemma was as adorableamy pointed out....her old agency pics had not shown her face!

Problem is, I don't think she wants a booking from me now, as she took offence at my line of questioning :(

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I live in a punting desert, it's not as easy as dimissing someone because they don't appear to be genuine, without doing some digging.

In this case, I'm glad to say that the girl provided further information, regarging having worked for an agency and this all checked out, but I had to ask her, she didn't give this up at the start, which would have sorted it out there and then. The picture dilemma was as adorableamy pointed out....her old agency pics had not shown her face!

Problem is, I don't think she wants a booking from me now, as she took offence at my line of questioning :(

Personally I'd still tell her to 'get lost' (except I wouldnt be that polite)

Regardless of 'living in a punting desert' you shouldnt have to put up with bad attitudes and I certainly wouldnt even consider booking this girl (especially since it appears youve gone out of your way to be polite and respectful to this [expletive deleted]) - if it meant having to travel a little out of my way for superior quality and professionalism then I would (just my opinion)

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Personally I'd still tell her to 'get lost' (except I wouldnt be that polite)

Yes, that's how I initially felt but I've mellowed since and can see a funny (amusing) side to the conversation I had with her, if I'm honest I did try and "poke her with a big stick" :D and she bit :o . Also, I do like women with attitude (she looks fit too)....bring back lou4fun :P

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Ah the perfect thread was about to start one with the same point.

Been working from home today and as an afternoon treat for getting a particular taxing project out of the way i thought i would have an afternoon outcall.

I looked at a few ladies three in particular i looked at their profiles, now i like to be certain who i'm potentially seeing the fact these pics were professionally done should have raised my suspicions but tineye as ever never fails to pick them up.

And lo and behold i got plenty of hits thank god for tineye now i know that sometimes a lady uses a pic that may slightly resemble her but 5 or 6 pics! i assume that i can believe nothing this person tells me.

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Could it be that the lady has only recently started to show her face and the 'body' ones might be from a previous set? I have a mixture on my site as I've only had full face pictures up for a few months and the others are cropped, although most show at least a bit of my face (you can almost see the progession right up to the point where I said sod it). I don't believe I needed to bin a lot of perfectly good pictures just because my head isn't in all of them?

I don't think you should have suggested she was trying to deceive people - we get accused of lying about everything so often it gets very tiresome and irritating, but I can see why you would want it clarifying. Maybe you could have asked which the most recent images were?

I'm with you on this one Amy, it was exactly my first thought, however the Punternet Paranoia Society has had it's usual reaction, "Burn the witch! As for her being on Northern Belles and her being in Suffolk, take a lot at Northern Angels.

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I'm with you on this one Amy, it was exactly my first thought, however the Punternet Paranoia Society has had it's usual reaction, "Burn the witch! As for her being on Northern Belles and her being in Suffolk, take a lot at Northern Angels.

Mike, you sound like a friend of mine! He’s the worlds greatest sporting tipster, only problem is, that he only tells me who’s going to win after they have already won, darn!

As for paranoia; only last week I was checking out a profile of a stunning blonde in Chelmsford (Hello claire23), she had a fabulous slim and busty figure (head cropped off), I'm afraid to say that I smelt a rat and put her images through Tin eye! Low and behold, the first one of the set came up with 167 hits! When I clicked the link, I found it to be none other than the Hollioaks actress Gemma Atkinson! I emailed the girl to point this out to her and her response was that her and her photographer had worked to copy the poses of Ms Atkinson ! Great work, they had copied them so well that even tin eye could not differentiate between them! Of course, you would have believed her, made the booking, charmed the pants off of her and now she would be your new best friend…., hey Mike?

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Mike, you sound like a friend of mine! He’s the worlds greatest sporting tipster, only problem is, that he only tells me who’s going to win after they have already won, darn!

As for paranoia; only last week I was checking out a profile of a stunning blonde in Chelmsford (Hello claire23), she had a fabulous slim and busty figure (head cropped off), I'm afraid to say that I smelt a rat and put her images through Tin eye! Low and behold, the first one of the set came up with 167 hits! When I clicked the link, I found it to be none other than the Hollioaks actress Gemma Atkinson! I emailed the girl to point this out to her and her response was that her and her photographer had worked to copy the poses of Ms Atkinson ! Great work, they had copied them so well that even tin eye could not differentiate between them! Of course, you would have believed her, made the booking, charmed the pants off of her and now she would be your new best friend…., hey Mike?

Certainly not with regard to your last sentence. I'm being 100% honest and never found someone who was not as described, some better than others, (apart from age, but even then it was believable that they were were the age their website said)

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I'm with you on this one Amy, it was exactly my first thought, however the Punternet Paranoia Society has had it's usual reaction, "Burn the witch! As for her being on Northern Belles and her being in Suffolk, take a lot at Northern Angels.

Does one really have to be paranoid to suspect that photos might not be kosher? Yes... of course there could be an "innocent" explanation.... but blimey, isn't it obvious it could be false advertising? And is it really daft to try to find out which it is?

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Does one really have to be paranoid to suspect that photos might not be kosher? Yes... of course there could be an "innocent" explanation.... but blimey, isn't it obvious it could be false advertising? And is it really daft to try to find out which it is?

I'd be annoyed if someone suggested that my photos weren't genuine and I imagine most escorts would be. I would think the most likely explanation would be that her face photos were new ones and she has decided to show her face now, we all have changes in our lives that can cause us to changes on our profiles.

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I'd be annoyed if someone suggested that my photos weren't genuine and I imagine most escorts would be.

I blieve it's this fear, of annoying genuine escorts that is at the heart of the problem. The liars feed off this, and put false pictures up because they know most punters won't question them!

Have you stopped and thought what it means if someone said to you that they thought you pics are false? It's a big compliment, in that they are saying, you look so attractive, I don't believe I can really get to meet you! Why be annoyed?

The girl I questioned yesterday, was genuine and a smart cookie, she has now put up a new set of photos that show her face and body together, in the same photo, with no cropping or blurring. So she took on board my points!

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I blieve it's this fear, of annoying genuine escorts that is at the heart of the problem. The liars feed off this, and put false pictures up because they know most punters won't question them!

Have you stopped and thought what it means if someone said to you that they thought you pics are false? It's a big compliment, in that they are saying, you look so attractive, I don't believe I can really get to meet you! Why be annoyed?

The girl I questioned yesterday, was genuine and a smart cookie, she has now put up a new set of photos that show her face and body together, in the same photo, with no cropping or blurring. So she took on board my points!

Have you apologised to her hinting or even implying that you thought she was being dishonest since she evidently hasn't been?

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Have you apologised to her hinting or even implying that you thought she was being dishonest since she evidently hasn't been?

Yes, of course, I said sorry!

She was a genuine girl, who'd done her best to make herself look fake. You gals, need to realise , that it's a minefield out there!

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I'd be annoyed if someone suggested that my photos weren't genuine and I imagine most escorts would be. I would think the most likely explanation would be that her face photos were new ones and she has decided to show her face now, we all have changes in our lives that can cause us to changes on our profiles.

I understand that. But... I think Kid A most likely phrased his enquiry in a reasonable and tactful way. He always struck me as a thoughtful and constructive guy on the several times I've argued against him.

And fake photos? I accept that no long standing indie would use them, and that many reputable agencies (and parlours) don't. But I'm having to pinch myself in disbelieve if punternet veterans like Mike don't realize they are a fairly frequent occurrence in the industry. And any self respecting punter takes actions to ward against them.... I... for one... don't want to spend hours traveling to see somebody who's nothing like photos.

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I understand that. But... I think Kid A most likely phrased his enquiry in a reasonable and tactful way. He always struck me as a thoughtful and constructive guy on the several times I've argued against him.

And fake photos? I accept that no long standing indie would use them, and that many reputable agencies (and parlours) don't. But I'm having to pinch myself in disbelieve if punternet veterans like Mike don't realize they are a fairly frequent occurrence in the industry. And any self respecting punter takes actions to ward against them.... I... for one... don't want to spend hours traveling to see somebody who's nothing like photos.

I do agree with the principle, but the gentleman has already said further up the thread that he can be 'a little brash with people' and that he 'poked her with a big stick' - I've occasionally had punters ring up and bark 'is that you in the pictures?' back in the days when I had pro pics and the implication that we're automatically dishonest from a complete stranger is offensive; there are other ways to skin a cat.

I hope you apologised for poking her with your stick too. You're supposed to give us money first :D.

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I do agree with the principle, but the gentleman has already said further up the thread that he can be 'a little brash with people' and that he 'poked her with a big stick'

:D She excepted my apology!

She also has a much better gallery, that I beleive, will bring her more work and will be useful for my fellow punters, in the Suffolk area. I view it, that I did my good deed for the day! I'm so considerate like that, I'm always thinking, how can I help other people! :)

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:D She excepted my apology!

Some of us may remember Guy's uncle Peregrine, a bore of international repute, who could empty whole drawing rooms with a single anecdote? I slightly fear that I may be going Peregrine's way,

but,

What, exactly, did the lady do with or to your apology?

Is it, just, possible, that she accepted it?

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I do agree with the principle, but the gentleman has already said further up the thread that he can be 'a little brash with people' and that he 'poked her with a big stick' - I've occasionally had punters ring up and bark 'is that you in the pictures?' back in the days when I had pro pics and the implication that we're automatically dishonest from a complete stranger is offensive; there are other ways to skin a cat.

I hope you apologised for poking her with your stick too. You're supposed to give us money first :D.

Indeed, how you say things and in what way can make a world of difference. Tact is a handy thing to have in my experience and has got me the information i required without any problems on many occassions in punting.

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