Lara Brooks

Rarity Of Ethnic Minority Clients

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As an aside from Helen’s post, “Johnny Foreigner!” I realise that it’s very rare for me to be booked by men other than Caucasians, although I don’t say anything on my website to suggest I’d turn non white skinned gents away. In 10 years I’ve met one black man (pity as I like dark skin), about 5 Asians, 1 Chinese man, and a couple of mixed race. I can understand perhaps because here in the Welsh Marches the population is predominantly Caucasian (although it's not that far from Birmingham and Bristol), but I was in Southampton for years and that’s far more multicultural. Does anyone have any idea why, and have other ladies found this? I’m not clued up on sociology so no idea whether it’s cultural or economic, or something else.

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As an aside from Helen’s post, “Johnny Foreigner!” I realise that it’s very rare for me to be booked by men other than Caucasians, although I don’t say anything on my website to suggest I’d turn non white skinned gents away. In 10 years I’ve met one black man (pity as I like dark skin), about 5 Asians, 1 Chinese man, and a couple of mixed race. I can understand perhaps because here in the Welsh Marches the population is predominantly Caucasian (although it's not that far from Birmingham and Bristol), but I was in Southampton for years and that’s far more multicultural. Does anyone have any idea why, and have other ladies found this? I’m not clued up on sociology so no idea whether it’s cultural or economic, or something else.

I thinks its definitely about location. And as you mentioned Wales has a predominantly white population. Working within a larger city may have more clients of different ethnicities and cultures.

Not just in escorting, but in everything, the ethnicity of clients will be in proportion to the population of the area. E.g. I was the only Chinese pupil (actually, the only ethnic minority) out of about 2000 pupils at my school, and that was only a few miles from Liverpool, the so-called Capital of Culture!

However, if you worked in other places you may see different clients. e.g. If you worked in Bolton, you may see more Asian clients, if you worked in East London, you may see more black clients, and if you worked in China Town, you may see more chinese clients.

That said, culture could also come into it. Different ethnicities may have different religions, moral stances, ways of thinking, etc.

I watched a documentary about Japan not long ago (with Justin Lee Collins) and it showed Japanese women paying men for company! And they were early 20's, stunning and seemed really nice (they could probably get any guy they wanted over here). Just shows how different cultures can be.

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As a general point to remember, the UK is very much a predominatly white population (outside of the bigger cities, certainly.)

I'm from Preston, and I think the population is something like 86% white (including the greater Preston area) National average, which includes London, is 88%. (That includes Irish, Polish, Europeans americans etc as White.)

10% are Asian subcontiental (Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi ) and 1% are black Carribean / African.

So that means, even just by averages, 9/10 people you meet in any walk of life will be white.

I've mentioned this at work- out office has about 280 people on the books in all, and maybe like 40 are Indians, and about 6 are black.

People might see that and say "Wow, thats well biased towards white people" , whereas in fact it represents a typical proportion (more or less) for the area.

Not that its deliberatly hired that way- just that, eg, when each post was advertised the best person for the job was choosen, and thus the typical Prestonian balance is there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Preston,_Lancashire#Ethnicity

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As an aside from Helen’s post, “Johnny Foreigner!” I realise that it’s very rare for me to be booked by men other than Caucasians, although I don’t say anything on my website to suggest I’d turn non white skinned gents away. In 10 years I’ve met one black man (pity as I like dark skin), about 5 Asians, 1 Chinese man, and a couple of mixed race. I can understand perhaps because here in the Welsh Marches the population is predominantly Caucasian (although it's not that far from Birmingham and Bristol), but I was in Southampton for years and that’s far more multicultural. Does anyone have any idea why, and have other ladies found this? I’m not clued up on sociology so no idea whether it’s cultural or economic, or something else.

Interesting and surprising post !

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I thinks its definitely about location. And as you mentioned Wales has a predominantly white population. Working within a larger city may have more clients of different ethnicities and cultures...

Thing is I’m only 1.5 hours drive from Birmingham and Bristol and an hour from Worcester, and quite frequently get clients travel that sort of distance to see me. So I almost discount my location as a factor. A bit of digging revealed that “Birmingham has the smallest indigenous population by percentage of many of the major British cities. In 2007, it was estimated 33.3% of its population was non-white...”

Maybe the bigger cities, with the larger percentage of ethnic minorities, also have a larger percentage of escorts and parlours than the more rural areas, so even if these men did want to pay for sex they could easily do so nearer home rather than come out here? Or maybe it’s lack of disposable income?

Interesting and surprising post !

In what way surprising?

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As an aside from Helen’s post, “Johnny Foreigner!” I realise that it’s very rare for me to be booked by men other than Caucasians, although I don’t say anything on my website to suggest I’d turn non white skinned gents away. In 10 years I’ve met one black man (pity as I like dark skin), about 5 Asians, 1 Chinese man, and a couple of mixed race. I can understand perhaps because here in the Welsh Marches the population is predominantly Caucasian (although it's not that far from Birmingham and Bristol), but I was in Southampton for years and that’s far more multicultural. Does anyone have any idea why, and have other ladies found this? I’m not clued up on sociology so no idea whether it’s cultural or economic, or something else.

Definitely location and population ratios. I am black and most of the ladies I book are caucasian. I live in London and even with the diversity in London most agency ladies are caucasian. There are agencies I use when I want a particular demographic e.g blacks, orientals or over 50s but the typical agency will mainly have caucasians on their books.

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Well I suspect it could be something to do with the fact that they are in the 'minority' :D

even though that really does suprise me in the UK in 2011 :blink:

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@Lara - surprising that even while in Southampron you had hardly any ethnic minority customers

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I'm sure it's a mixture of many factors already discussed above but IMO (speaking as someone from Indian origin) I think price might have something to do with it. Based on my own experiences, I can only conclude that people from a Caucasian background are more likely to spend larger sums on 'luxury goods/ services'. I dont know whether this is cultural, social or income driven but I know for a fact loads of guys from my area visit the £50 massage parlour compared to the £100 independent down the road.

For the record, I'm not passing judgement on your prices or service, but it is difficult to make this point without seeming to do so.

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As an aside from Helen’s post, “Johnny Foreigner!” I realise that it’s very rare for me to be booked by men other than Caucasians, although I don’t say anything on my website to suggest I’d turn non white skinned gents away. In 10 years I’ve met one black man (pity as I like dark skin), about 5 Asians, 1 Chinese man, and a couple of mixed race. I can understand perhaps because here in the Welsh Marches the population is predominantly Caucasian (although it's not that far from Birmingham and Bristol), but I was in Southampton for years and that’s far more multicultural. Does anyone have any idea why, and have other ladies found this? I’m not clued up on sociology so no idea whether it’s cultural or economic, or something else.

Well, Lara: I do have quite a high number of ethnic minority clients. (mainly South Asians). I don't know exactly why, but I tend to agree with people who said that its actually might depend from the area where you live.

I estimate, that at least 1/3 of clients I met (Actually met, not the ones who enquired) are of South Asian background. I live less then 20 miles from Leicester (with close to 25% of population of Indian ethnicity people alone, according to Wiki), and about same distance from Coventry and Birmingham. (with the high number of varied ethnic minorities too).

As for the Afro-Caribbeans clients, I only seen 2 in my rather long carrier, and non of them was from my neck of the woods. (one was from London, another from France). The girls who I talked to, who work/worked as WGs said that they did not seen many Afr-Carib guys also. I think they either "rice chasers" (they tend to like Far Eastern girls), or black balcony bum chasers:-ie, your bum is not big enough for them, Lara, and you either not black or blonde or volaptious enough for them :-)). Another version: many of them are either to skint to punt, or "never pay the bitch!". (Ha, ha: hows that for stereotyping!)

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Well Lara, Im a black guy and if I were in your area and you did OWO (My favourite) I would be there in a shot.

You can rest assured its nothing to do with your attractiveness to the brothers!

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As an aside from Helen’s post, “Johnny Foreigner!” I realise that it’s very rare for me to be booked by men other than Caucasians, although I don’t say anything on my website to suggest I’d turn non white skinned gents away. In 10 years I’ve met one black man (pity as I like dark skin), about 5 Asians, 1 Chinese man, and a couple of mixed race. I can understand perhaps because here in the Welsh Marches the population is predominantly Caucasian (although it's not that far from Birmingham and Bristol), but I was in Southampton for years and that’s far more multicultural. Does anyone have any idea why, and have other ladies found this? I’m not clued up on sociology so no idea whether it’s cultural or economic, or something else.

The other reason could be price: have across your website now and then, very nice and very tempting but out of my price range. This could be one reason or it could be just me. Still, if you are ever in Birmingham, I might be tempted!

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@ Lara

There could be so many reasons for you not getting ethnic customers, but the distance & location might put a lot of customers off; 1.5 hours from B'ham and innthe middle of nowhere relatively speaking.

I can only really speak for myself; I'm Indian and I live in London. For personal reasons I only get time to punt at lunchtimes. So a 3 hour return trip plus an hour of fun & frolics is completely out of the question for me. Another important consideration for us ethnic blokes, certainly for me, is the apprehension of turning up to a quiet rural place where the locals don't usually see my type. That would invite unnecessary attention for both me and the WG.

So if a lot of south Asian men think like me then that could be why you ain't seeing many. You could always promote yourself more by doing tours of B'ham, Leicester etc just to let "them" know what they're missing. ;-)

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For the record, I'm not passing judgement on your prices or service, but it is difficult to make this point without seeming to do so.

It’s OK, I didn’t take it that way at all, it's interesting to hear your views. I’ve wondered whether it’s to do with jobs and income, but sociology isn’t really my strong subject.

...Another important consideration for us ethnic blokes, certainly for me, is the apprehension of turning up to a quiet rural place where the locals don't usually see my type. That would invite unnecessary attention for both me and the WG...

That’s something I’d not thought of but does make a lot of sense! Anyone who isn’t Caucasian does draw my eye around here, and I suppose no matter how much I say my place is discreet it is a leap of faith isn’t it.

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It’s OK, I didn’t take it that way at all, it's interesting to hear your views. I’ve wondered whether it’s to do with jobs and income, but sociology isn’t really my strong subject.

That’s something I’d not thought of but does make a lot of sense! Anyone who isn’t Caucasian does draw my eye around here, and I suppose no matter how much I say my place is discreet it is a leap of faith isn’t it.

Are you working on a tour of Birmingham?

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Are you working on a tour of Birmingham?

Unfortunately my domestic situation doesn’t lend itself to tours, and I think if I did tour it would be somewhere that was quite a distance from where I offer incalls.

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In 5 years,majority of clients who book me are British born,seen 3 Polish men living in Britain and 1German. With regards to race seen 1 black man and 1 mixed race man, majority have been White, followed by Asian men. Have more outcalls from Asian men, have more incalls from white men, that's from memory!

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As an aside from Helen’s post, “Johnny Foreigner!” I realise that it’s very rare for me to be booked by men other than Caucasians, although I don’t say anything on my website to suggest I’d turn non white skinned gents away. In 10 years I’ve met one black man (pity as I like dark skin), about 5 Asians, 1 Chinese man, and a couple of mixed race. I can understand perhaps because here in the Welsh Marches the population is predominantly Caucasian (although it's not that far from Birmingham and Bristol), but I was in Southampton for years and that’s far more multicultural. Does anyone have any idea why, and have other ladies found this? I’m not clued up on sociology so no idea whether it’s cultural or economic, or something else.

I am working in Chelsea and the whole world is here, but again London is a major world city so what would you expect. Recently I have seen clients from East Asia, South Asia, North America, Europe, and I expect that I will gets calls from South Americans and Africans.

The only geographic client group that would surprise me would be if I received a call from a Polar bear who wanted a threesome with me and a Penguin !

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The only geographic client group that would surprise me would be if I received a call from a Polar bear who wanted a threesome with me and a Penguin !

LOL! What is it about you Russian women? Move over, Xenia, there's a new шериф in town! :P

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Lara, is there a photo of you in a pointy white hood on your website? :)

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I don't see many ethnic minority clients, but I still do despite being in an area not known for it's ethnic diversity. I've never gone into any analysis but people do travel these days, and there is a major motorway not a million miles away from myself. That's it.

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I only have one black gent who regularly comes to visit me from Birmingham. Other than that, the fact I am based in London means I get to see gentlemen from various backgrounds. Asian, Caucasian, Middle eastern, European... The list goes on.

In Manchester, I see more Asian gent's than Caucasian. In London I think it's more the other way round.

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I'd say the £160 an hour and no OWO would put a lot of punters off, (myself included) regardless of race or geographical location. It's supply and demand, the punter will go elsewhere if they can get a cheaper service with more on the menu. Nothing personal to you, but i do believe these are factors. Any publicity is good publicity so hopefully this thread will get you more business from ethnic minorities, go on guys don't be shy :P

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I'd say the £160 an hour and no OWO would put a lot of punters off, (myself included) regardless of race or geographical location. It's supply and demand, the punter will go elsewhere if they can get a cheaper service with more on the menu. Nothing personal to you, but i do believe these are factors. Any publicity is good publicity so hopefully this thread will get you more business from ethnic minorities, go on guys don't be shy :P

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Your post is full of contradictions and had no relevance to this thread??

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