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Do Wgs At Parties Make Any Money?

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I was at a party a couple of weeks ago and it started me thinking 'what is in it for the girls?'. Of course 'money' was the first answer that came to mind but I started to wonder how much they received compared to the amount of effort they had to put in.

I was at a Pams Pary and there were 3 ladies providing fun for 6 gents. Pams is probably the cheapest around at £70 for 4 hours so those 6 guys would have handed over a total of £420. I have no idea how much the 'house' would require but they had to organise the thing, provide nibbles and drinks and they have to physcially have someone there for the entire time looking after things.

Is it a purely a swings and roundabout type of deal where the girls get a set amount regardless of the amount of guys (so if a party doesn't have that many guys attending all the better for them) or do they get a bonus if there are a large number of guys (for some reason everyone in the world turns up on the one day and the ratio goes through the roof) or is that random chance that they have to put up with too?

It all depends on the ratios and how many guys turn up to any given party I suppose.

I assume that party organisers work on the theory that they are going to get an average amount of guys over an entire week (although have no idea how many guys are going to come to each party as it's all so random) so can work out budgets from this.

Some parties have set ratios they apparently don't go above but judging from FR's about these parties they certainly aren't guaranteed to be full every time so they are limiting themselves in this regard. LMP (2:1 ratio) is £140 for 2 hours so at least they are getting getting a bit of money upfront (although they have 7 girls available) whereas LAPC (no FR's but a 2:1 ratio I read somewhere) charge £80 for 3 hours (providing 3 girls) so take considerably less up front.

Is it good money or just guaranteed money?

I just wondered how it worked as when I was at the party I was thinking if I offered one of the girls the same as she was getting for the party for a private 4 hours session would she take it.

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Hi

I was at a party a couple of weeks ago and it started me thinking 'what is in it for the girls?'. Of course 'money' was the first answer that came to mind but I started to wonder how much they received compared to the amount of effort they had to put in.

I was at a Pams Pary and there were 3 ladies providing fun for 6 gents. Pams is probably the cheapest around at £70 for 4 hours so those 6 guys would have handed over a total of £420. I have no idea how much the 'house' would require but they had to organise the thing, provide nibbles and drinks and they have to physcially have someone there for the entire time looking after things.

Is it a purely a swings and roundabout type of deal where the girls get a set amount regardless of the amount of guys (so if a party doesn't have that many guys attending all the better for them) or do they get a bonus if there are a large number of guys (for some reason everyone in the world turns up on the one day and the ratio goes through the roof) or is that random chance that they have to put up with too?

It all depends on the ratios and how many guys turn up to any given party I suppose.

I assume that party organisers work on the theory that they are going to get an average amount of guys over an entire week (although have no idea how many guys are going to come to each party as it's all so random) so can work out budgets from this.

Some parties have set ratios they apparently don't go above but judging from FR's about these parties they certainly aren't guaranteed to be full every time so they are limiting themselves in this regard. LMP (2:1 ratio) is £140 for 2 hours so at least they are getting getting a bit of money upfront (although they have 7 girls available) whereas LAPC (no FR's but a 2:1 ratio I read somewhere) charge £80 for 3 hours (providing 3 girls) so take considerably less up front.

Is it good money or just guaranteed money?

I just wondered how it worked as when I was at the party I was thinking if I offered one of the girls the same as she was getting for the party for a private 4 hours session would she take it.

I've also often wondered about the economics of parties, not least because I've tried to organise some...

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I don't know either, but I know a man who does, Come in smiths, where are you ? :D

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I don't know either, but I know a man who does, Come in smiths, where are you ? :D

At LMP, assuming it's a full house, 14 punters pay £140 - that's £1960. Suppose the house takes £500, that leaves £1460 for the girls, ie about £200 each. Over the day,with 3 parties, the house makes £1500 gross, and the girls go home with £600 each. I think that the girls could easily make that working for an agency, nevermind as indies, but I really get the impression that, at LMP at least, the girls enjoy working the parties. And, of course, everything's laid on for them - venue, punters, lube condoms, linen - not like being an indie and having to arrange everything themselves.

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I don't know either, but I know a man who does, Come in smiths, where are you ? :D

Here. :D Firstly i assume although dont know definitely as its not relevant to my attending parties that the WGs mostly get a set fee generally. If a party is short of punters on a regular basis they are up shit creek without a paddle, if they are short only sometimes they can take it if they think they will get it back at the next party.

Most providers do 2 or in LMPs case 3 parties a day so they get 2 or 3 chances to make a decent profit and pay the WGs obviously. So they might make little profit on one party but make it back at another and more. Some have strict ratios some dont or lie to get you their hoping you will stay by thinking with your dick.

What the WGs i have spoken to at parties have told me is that its guaranteed money, they might make more elsewhere but they might not so this being sure is worth it to them, plus many work elsewhere on non party days as well. So as long as the provider makes enough to pay them the ladies are happy with the arrangement. If there is a serious lack of punters on a regular basis they either have to cut the number of ladies or go under. They also see it as safer from a personal safety point of view and in some cases they can have a laugh with the other ladies.

Logic tells me the WGs at the budget parties like LAPC where i go on occassion or Pams where i havent been must make little money, they both usually do 2 parties a day although LAPC only do 1 on a Wednesday night but with a maximum 5.1 ratio. What should be understood is some of the WGs i see at LAPC and on Pams site might struggle to make money elsewhere in my opinion ( i might be wrong though) To be blunt but honest some at LAPC arent very attractive to me and have bad attitudes BUT at between £60-80 pounds for 3 hours i can live with that IF there are other ladies i do rate.

Some WGs mainly do parties with a number of party providers so make their living that way, others as i said earlier do parties and work elsewhere at parlours, as indies or for agencies. :)

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For what its worth, I agree with the reasoning for the girls working these parties. I use to 'help' advertise parties back in the hay day and I talked the owner into it based on economics. Infact they made a rediculous profit, and the girls all walked off with £300 each for 3 hours work, and a bit of fun. But they were charging £250 a person back then, with a ratio of 3:1. Do the maths, sometimes they had 7 girls.... ching ching. (Over £3000 per party)

At the prices these days it barely makes sense. However, I knew a brazilian who did Madam marms parties. A few years back, they use to get £150 a party, and 2 parties a day. So thats £300 a day. But it is safe, friendly, limited in expectation (i.e. No CIM, No Alevel), and REGULAR money. The last point being very important, this was the rent money for her. Working in parlours and as an indy can be very variable, and this £300 was guaranteed.

I have no idea how some of the cheap clubs survive, the girls must be on silly low money, but spending 6 hours at a party, drinking, smoking and chatting, being admired and chased after by horny guys and getting a very good fucking, can't be all bad!!! Some of the girls (not all, and not the ones reading this post) appear to get addicted to the attention and the high amount of sex and find it difficult to stop....

I have a question....

I'm interested in going to a 'full monty' party. Say 3 very pretty young girls (English/Latina), real bisexuals, who will deliver Full PSE/GFE French kissing, Sex, CIM, Alevel, DP, the works, (just no bareback). 3 hours central London.

How much should this cost each punter? Would it be economically vaiable? (I bloody hope so :P )

Cheers

IanT

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For what its worth, I agree with the reasoning for the girls working these parties. I use to 'help' advertise parties back in the hay day and I talked the owner into it based on economics. Infact they made a rediculous profit, and the girls all walked off with £300 each for 3 hours work, and a bit of fun. But they were charging £250 a person back then, with a ratio of 3:1. Do the maths, sometimes they had 7 girls.... ching ching. (Over £3000 per party)

At the prices these days it barely makes sense. However, I knew a brazilian who did Madam marms parties. A few years back, they use to get £150 a party, and 2 parties a day. So thats £300 a day. But it is safe, friendly, limited in expectation (i.e. No CIM, No Alevel), and REGULAR money. The last point being very important, this was the rent money for her. Working in parlours and as an indy can be very variable, and this £300 was guaranteed.

I have no idea how some of the cheap clubs survive, the girls must be on silly low money, but spending 6 hours at a party, drinking, smoking and chatting, being admired and chased after by horny guys and getting a very good fucking, can't be all bad!!! Some of the girls (not all, and not the ones reading this post) appear to get addicted to the attention and the high amount of sex and find it difficult to stop....

I have a question....

I'm interested in going to a 'full monty' party. Say 3 very pretty young girls (English/Latina), real bisexuals, who will deliver Full PSE/GFE French kissing, Sex, CIM, Alevel, DP, the works, (just no bareback). 3 hours central London.

How much should this cost each punter? Would it be economically vaiable? (I bloody hope so :P )

Cheers

IanT

GP used to do a once a month anal/dp party, no idea if they still do though, of no interest to me so i cant tell you exactly what services apart from the above were on offer but it was £150 for 3 hours with 3 WGs, they said max 9 punters but regularly lied to me when i last went to them in 2008. :)

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Yes GP use to, I went a few times. They don't any more. Not all the girls with CIM, but they would all A.

Last time was great, 2 girls, one was a stunner, but the other a complete dog, but only 3 guys. We all bonked the pretty one and DPed her as well. However, this was here last party and seh left left the country.

Like I said, if any-one fancies a full monty party, let me know, as I know a very pretty lady with friends who is interested, but it is all a matter of how much ££££?

IanT

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I can only speak for gentlemens parties and sables parties in bournemouth. Gentlemens parties are long parties (2 x 4) hours and I got a decent amount of money, their a level parties pay more to the girls for obvious reasons. I was happy. Sables parties were (it was a while ago) a one off 3 hour party and paid well also , hour for hour better than gentlemans to be honest. Parties are hard work, there is no denying it, but you know exactly how much you will be paid at the end of the shift, hence their popularity with wg's.

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but you know exactly how much you will be paid at the end of the shift, hence their popularity with wg's.

Are you saying girls get a fixed fee for a party regardless of how many punters come through the door rather than getting a percentage of the gate then?

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Are you saying girls get a fixed fee for a party regardless of how many punters come through the door rather than getting a percentage of the gate then?

They get a fixed fee but if the party was to be lacking in punters all day which usually mean 2-3 parties the provider either has to take a loss or renegotiate the agreed terms which i assume wouldnt go down too well with the WGs.

This is why some providers will actually let as many punters as wanting to attend in despite telling you they have a maximum ratio, they are ensuring they make enough profit to make it worhwhile but this lying doesnt help punters of course. Other providers have a set maximum that in my experience they dont go over which is why i give them my business among other reasons. :)

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I can't speak for other girls but I absolutely loved the party scene. It was swings and roundabouts, sometimes the money was brilliant, other times not so good and yes I could have earned just as much doing 1-2-1's at home. But then they were fun and I had good company.

These days I swing for the same thrill and get nothing for that. Nothing wrong with a good party!! Lol

P.S we were never paid a fee, at all our parties whatever was made was shared between the girls equally.

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Are you saying girls get a fixed fee for a party regardless of how many punters come through the door rather than getting a percentage of the gate then?

I can only speak for myself and the parties I was a ......er.... party to:

I no longer do parties but have done a fair number in the past. I always received a fixed agreed fee for each day

(this included 2x2hr parties) and was perfectly happy with that arrangement. I did parties mostly for the sheer

naughtiness of it all... they are/were a hoot and of course we never knew just exactly who would turn up or how many.

The afternoon parties tended to be busier and almost a full house. The evening do was sometimes less busy but I reckon

this was because some guys lost their nerve as the afternoon wore on/became tired and maybe had a bad day at work/the wife

or gf demanded that they go late shopping and he couldn't get out of it :D

Joking of course but who knows why many guys didn't turn up to the 6pm shennanigans.

As an example.... 25 guys could book a place and say yes they would be there. That number was usually halved so we had

a pretty good idea of how many might arrive for the fun and games.

I have also wondered about these 4 hour parties and the low admission fees.

I always did them because I loved doing them! A decent day's money which would have been a good day's cash for my escort job

was guaranteed and a great incentive too.... so I was more than happy with it all.

;)

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I can only speak for myself and the parties I was a ......er.... party to:

I no longer do parties but have done a fair number in the past. I always received a fixed agreed fee for each day

(this included 2x2hr parties) and was perfectly happy with that arrangement. I did parties mostly for the sheer

naughtiness of it all... they are/were a hoot and of course we never knew just exactly who would turn up or how many.

The afternoon parties tended to be busier and almost a full house. The evening do was sometimes less busy but I reckon

this was because some guys lost their nerve as the afternoon wore on/became tired and maybe had a bad day at work/the wife

or gf demanded that they go late shopping and he couldn't get out of it :D

Joking of course but who knows why many guys didn't turn up to the 6pm shennanigans.

As an example.... 25 guys could book a place and say yes they would be there. That number was usually halved so we had

a pretty good idea of how many might arrive for the fun and games.

I have also wondered about these 4 hour parties and the low admission fees.

I always did them because I loved doing them! A decent day's money which would have been a good day's cash for my escort job

was guaranteed and a great incentive too.... so I was more than happy with it all.

;)

Sheer terror of getting my kit off in front of others was why i nearly bottled out and many punters have told me it was the same for them. Many including me had this totally wrong impression that the other guys would be hunks who could shag for hours on end making us look like right inadequates. I have never been short on confidence but it is initially a terrifying prospect. The best parties offer a good social club type scenario which is fun.

The problem with over booking is sometimes most turned up, 18 guys to 3 WGs as i experienced so a guaranteed maximum is my preference, being barged around by other punters wasnt my idea of fun. :)

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Sheer terror of getting my kit off in front of others was why i nearly bottled out and many punters have told me it was the same for them. Many including me had this totally wrong impression that the other guys would be hunks who could shag for hours on end making us look like right inadequates. I have never been short on confidence but it is initially a terrifying prospect. The best parties offer a good social club type scenario which is fun.

The problem with over booking is sometimes most turned up, 18 guys to 3 WGs as i experienced so a guaranteed maximum is my preference, being barged around by other punters wasnt my idea of fun. :)

I pretty much agree with you. I had wanted to attend a party for some time, and I did my research thoroughly before taking the plunge. I noticed lots of horror stories, but opted for a SP who guaranteed their ratios and as a consequence I'm hooked and rarely do 1-2-1's.

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Are you saying girls get a fixed fee for a party regardless of how many punters come through the door rather than getting a percentage of the gate then?

Most parties do pay the girls a fixed fee although I am sure private parties are organised differently. I wont say how much girls usually end up with per hour as that is the party organiser's business to disclose or not. I do know that some parties have a pay scale, if up to a certain number of men attend then the girls get £X, if more than that number then they get £Z instead as there is more work involved. I was warned off one or two party organizers when I dipped my toe in the party puddle as if the attendance is low sometimes the girls dont get the agreed minimum rate, I steared clear, attended the gentlemans party both regular and alevel and sables and I was paid the full amount agreed beforehand.

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I wont say how much girls usually end up with per hour as that is the party organiser's business to disclose or not.

Exactly right Chloe

DO the guys expect to give everyone a breakdown of how they run their businesses, what they pay their staff etc?

I think not

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Exactly right Chloe

DO the guys expect to give everyone a breakdown of how they run their businesses, what they pay their staff etc?

I think not

Not too difficult to work out though really. 3 girls 4 hrs amounts to 1 hr 20 mins each on average. Money for old rope. House takes about £50 - £60 so each girl gets about £90/hr.

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Not too difficult to work out though really. 3 girls 4 hrs amounts to 1 hr 20 mins each on average. Money for old rope. House takes about £50 - £60 so each girl gets about £90/hr.

Too right... some of you guys are really rather ropey.

:rolleyes:

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Too right... some of you guys are really rather ropey.

:rolleyes:

You tie me up in knots you really do.

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Not too difficult to work out though really. 3 girls 4 hrs amounts to 1 hr 20 mins each on average. Money for old rope. House takes about £50 - £60 so each girl gets about £90/hr.

Girls don't take it in turns in the parties I've been to. Aside from when someone is taking a quick break, they're all working at once.

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You tie me up in knots you really do.

The last time I tied a guy to my bedposts I was over eager and couldn't

undo the ropes at home time.

I had to get the sharp scissors out.

"evil cackle"

:o

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Girls don't take it in turns in the parties I've been to. Aside from when someone is taking a quick break, they're all working at once.

Yes multitasking at it's very best.

:P

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Girls don't take it in turns in the parties I've been to. Aside from when someone is taking a quick break, they're all working at once.

Dont spoil hiss illusion

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Not too difficult to work out though really. 3 girls 4 hrs amounts to 1 hr 20 mins each on average. Money for old rope. House takes about £50 - £60 so each girl gets about £90/hr.

Rarely some parties have been money for old rope in my experience of attending over 300, it depends on the provider and how long the breaks are and the supervision given along with the WGs attitude. At good providers in my opinion every WG might be busy virtually the whole time less breaks, or the party might be slow with not much action, the point is the WGs wont know this till the punters arrive and the action starts and it becomes clear how much sex the punter is capable of and/or wanting, viagra and similar being used by some. Obviously the more punters the busier the ladies might be, some parties have a maximum 3.1 ratio in theory, in practice it might be more than that with those providers that lie or less due to lack of punters.

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