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Why I Gave Up Being Charming With Escorts

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Why I gave up being charming with escorts on the first visit.

I just met or spoke to, or emailed too many ice queens/ completely unpleasant women. I know the line of work puts you in front of a lot of guys who are rude or lacking in social graces. That's just the way it is. No blame to anyone here - every occupation has it's hazzards as well as it's upsides.

Seeing as I pay to see an escort every 10 months on average (due to money and justifying the spend). I never manage to end up seeing the same girl - they tend to move website/ city. Some girls have made an effort to be really nice. Some have it in their nature. Some just don't. And it doesn't seem to be price dependent. If a girl is initially stand offish as a caution, that would be cool but the sex market here doesn't allow you to get to know what a girl is really like, until after you splash the cash.

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Why I gave up being charming with escorts on the first visit.

I just met or spoke to, or emailed too many ice queens/ completely unpleasant women. I know the line of work puts you in front of a lot of guys who are rude or lacking in social graces. That's just the way it is. No blame to anyone here - every occupation has it's hazzards as well as it's upsides.

Seeing as I pay to see an escort every 10 months on average (due to money and justifying the spend). I never manage to end up seeing the same girl - they tend to move website/ city. Some girls have made an effort to be really nice. Some have it in their nature. Some just don't. And it doesn't seem to be price dependent. If a girl is initially stand offish as a caution, that would be cool but the sex market here doesn't allow you to get to know what a girl is really like, until after you splash the cash.

What a shame you do not realise that you will get the best out of the girl if you are pleasant at the very least. I find I cannot work to my best when I meet with a man who is not charming. I suppose it's all down to the luck of the draw with so many misleading websites out there?

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One of the reasons I like The Other Site - for all its faults - is that you can sometimes get a bit of a feel for the personality of the ladies from their profiles. Obviously it's not totsally reliable - apart from doms and humiliators (who don'y interest me) nobody's going to write "I'm a moody bitch who'll treat you like something stuck to the sole of my shoe" - but experience suggests my judgement is quite good, and I do feel that genuine warmth comes through in a well-written profile. It maybe helps that I lean towards slightly more mature women who are perhaps fully comfortable with themselves. Also, I flatter myself that I am quite charming - a term several ladies have been kind enough to apply to me - and so far, touch wood, I have had very few bad experiences of the type the OP describes.

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Why I gave up being charming with escorts on the first visit.

I just met or spoke to, or emailed too many ice queens/ completely unpleasant women. I know the line of work puts you in front of a lot of guys who are rude or lacking in social graces. That's just the way it is. No blame to anyone here - every occupation has it's hazzards as well as it's upsides.

Seeing as I pay to see an escort every 10 months on average (due to money and justifying the spend). I never manage to end up seeing the same girl - they tend to move website/ city. Some girls have made an effort to be really nice. Some have it in their nature. Some just don't. And it doesn't seem to be price dependent. If a girl is initially stand offish as a caution, that would be cool but the sex market here doesn't allow you to get to know what a girl is really like, until after you splash the cash.

Being grumpy doesn't help!

It will not work every time but I have found that when the lady is playing cagey and NOT giving the client kindness of of assuming he is OK unless proved otherwise, being resolutely cheerful, reasonable and giving it it my best has often turned the session around and allowed me to leave feeling the money was not wasted

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What a shame you do not realise that you will get the best out of the girl if you are pleasant at the very least. I find I cannot work to my best when I meet with a man who is not charming. I suppose it's all down to the luck of the draw with so many misleading websites out there?

Truly is a shame, UKtechhead, that you feel no need to be charming. It leaves an impression the you have NO RESPECT for the ladies you visit. Though the Ladies may not detect this disespect in your emails, texts or phone calls, they surely can when they meet you face to face. If you want the lady to treat you nice.. treat her nicer.

The ladies do have a network where by they can relate your treatment of them to others. Just like you can brand them with your Frs , they can stereotype you as a 'No See', 'Avoid' or 'Run From'.

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Being grumpy doesn't help!

It will not work every time but I have found that when the lady is playing cagey and NOT giving the client kindness of of assuming he is OK unless proved otherwise, being resolutely cheerful, reasonable and giving it it my best has often turned the session around and allowed me to leave feeling the money was not wasted

I do agree with your sentiments.

To the OP, I visited a WG once where the preamble to arriving got a bit stressful for both of us, and it wouldn't have been difficult for me to assume she was being stroppy, or for her to think that I was being awkward. Having arrived, chatted for a few mins, things set off on a much better path, and I continue to see her some years on. She is imo one of the best.

The conclusion that I draw from that experience is that it is better to persevere with being polite, the rewards can be great :) I just don't see the advantage to be had by being grumpy, that seems to be the best way of guaranteeing a bad time, what is the point of that?

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Websites and profiles are much more interesting for what they don't say than what they do.

There's never an excuse not to be nice and pleasant to people (apart from those Charity muggers, they can all go die in a ditch), especially those people who offer a personal service of some kind.

I want to connect with a WG on some level, whether it's physically (rare since I'm not good looking) emotionally (rare because a WG has her professional shields up) personality, interests or humour. Making such a connections makes for a much more enjoyable punt.

It's why now I insist on talking to a lady before a booking - I can get a good idea about what they'll be like in a few minutes.

I had a phone conversation with a lady I've booked for a meeting coming up over the weekend - I intended to keep it short & businesslike, but we were still chatting after almost an hour. I know it's going to be a good one!

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I too have met a few sour-pusses in my time and have come to the conclusion that if you're unfortunate enough to book one of them, then nothing you say or do will make an ounce of difference, to their shite attitutde! The secret is, to find happy and friendly girls....I always look for this line on a profile/website "I'm a very bubbly person"! I have also found that, for me, the younger girls are always much happier/friendly, sometimes in an ott manner, which I like. By younger, I mean around 20, I am now very very cautuious to book anyone over 24! Past experiences has taught me that bad attitude starts to creep in after this age...I'm sure their are friendly older girls out there, but for me it's just too hit n' miss to risk it.

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Why I gave up being charming with escorts on the first visit.

I just met or spoke to, or emailed too many ice queens/ completely unpleasant women. I know the line of work puts you in front of a lot of guys who are rude or lacking in social graces. That's just the way it is. No blame to anyone here - every occupation has it's hazzards as well as it's upsides.

Seeing as I pay to see an escort every 10 months on average (due to money and justifying the spend). I never manage to end up seeing the same girl - they tend to move website/ city. Some girls have made an effort to be really nice. Some have it in their nature. Some just don't. And it doesn't seem to be price dependent. If a girl is initially stand offish as a caution, that would be cool but the sex market here doesn't allow you to get to know what a girl is really like, until after you splash the cash.

I know just what you mean and your attitude/dispisition won't make a jot of difference to those typically indifferent 'just give me your money finish and get out as quickly as possible' type of wgs

Recently I hardly ever have the misfortune to encounter these types as I do my research beforehand, and if once I arrive my radar detects any kind of negativity or bad attitude/manners then i just walk, I'm out of there - NO WAY am I giving those types one penny of my money

However I did encounter this very type more than once in my early inexperienced days of punting

There's no need to go out of your way to be extra charming as it's not a date with your potential other half - just be yourself and treat her with the politeness and respect you would of any other person........ unless shes rude/disrespectful to you...... then you simply keep your cash and get the fk outta there !!

The best wgs as I find them are the ones who naturally bring out the best in you, when you instantly know you're in good hands and everything just flows effortlessly - THEY also tend to be chock full of the charm you alluded to in your OP - stick to them and you shouldn't have any problems

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I do agree with your sentiments.

To the OP, I visited a WG once where the preamble to arriving got a bit stressful for both of us, and it wouldn't have been difficult for me to assume she was being stroppy, or for her to think that I was being awkward. Having arrived, chatted for a few mins, things set off on a much better path, and I continue to see her some years on. She is imo one of the best.

The conclusion that I draw from that experience is that it is better to persevere with being polite, the rewards can be great :) I just don't see the advantage to be had by being grumpy, that seems to be the best way of guaranteeing a bad time, what is the point of that?

Pastoral counseling rules OK, but beware of the WI. :P

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Why I gave up being charming with escorts on the first visit.

I just met or spoke to, or emailed too many ice queens/ completely unpleasant women. I know the line of work puts you in front of a lot of guys who are rude or lacking in social graces. That's just the way it is. No blame to anyone here - every occupation has it's hazzards as well as it's upsides.

Seeing as I pay to see an escort every 10 months on average (due to money and justifying the spend). I never manage to end up seeing the same girl - they tend to move website/ city. Some girls have made an effort to be really nice. Some have it in their nature. Some just don't. And it doesn't seem to be price dependent. If a girl is initially stand offish as a caution, that would be cool but the sex market here doesn't allow you to get to know what a girl is really like, until after you splash the cash.

As every WG is a unique individual i treat all with respect not letting previous bad experiences colour my view.

If i detect a coldness or a bad attitude in anyway initially i walk, i might be missing out but i always think if the WG cant make the effort to be friendly BEFORE getting my money what might she be like AFTER getting it.

The overwhelming majority of ladies i have punted with have been friendly, bad WGs will always exist while their goal of getting the punter to her place or her to yours succeeds when the punter does what bad WGs rely on, him thinking with his dick and punting anyway.

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I too have met a few sour-pusses in my time and have come to the conclusion that if you're unfortunate enough to book one of them, then nothing you say or do will make an ounce of difference, to their shite attitutde! The secret is, to find happy and friendly girls....I always look for this line on a profile/website "I'm a very bubbly person"! I have also found that, for me, the younger girls are always much happier/friendly, sometimes in an ott manner, which I like. By younger, I mean around 20, I am now very very cautuious to book anyone over 24! Past experiences has taught me that bad attitude starts to creep in after this age...I'm sure their are friendly older girls out there, but for me it's just too hit n' miss to risk it.

Whereas its never been an age related thing in my experience. Its been purely down to the individual WGs attitude and anyone could have one, fortunately most dont.

Certainly a bad attitude cant be changed by a punter, and will always lead to bad punts.

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the sex market here doesn't allow you to get to know what a girl is really like, until after you splash the cash.

Not so; because of this very site, some of my best experiences have been with women I have got to know a bit via PMs and especially the chatroom; I'd like to think that makes things more relaxed for both parties.

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Pastoral counseling rules OK, but beware of the WI. :P

They may be rather straight but my erstwhile neighbour once had a window notice adverising "****** Diocesan Mothers' Union Ugandan Evening"!

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Why I gave up being charming with escorts on the first visit.

I just met or spoke to, or emailed too many ice queens/ completely unpleasant women. I know the line of work puts you in front of a lot of guys who are rude or lacking in social graces. That's just the way it is. No blame to anyone here - every occupation has it's hazzards as well as it's upsides.

Seeing as I pay to see an escort every 10 months on average (due to money and justifying the spend). I never manage to end up seeing the same girl - they tend to move website/ city. Some girls have made an effort to be really nice. Some have it in their nature. Some just don't. And it doesn't seem to be price dependent. If a girl is initially stand offish as a caution, that would be cool but the sex market here doesn't allow you to get to know what a girl is really like, until after you splash the cash.

Well it sounds to me like it takes you 9 months to decide on who to punt with in your tenth ! :rolleyes:

Perhaps you are taking this far too seriously for your current punting frequency.

If you practiced this hobby more you may well find that your charm factor will naturally rise as you will undoubtedly meet more women who you will click with.

But a punt every 10 months is hardly going to come up trumps every time is it !:blink:

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I work hard for my punting money , so sorry but a working girl has to work hard to gain my custom as in nice telephone manner and a good punt . If the phone manner is poor then thats a non starter for me straight away . I'm always polite and act like a gentleman but if they can't be polite back and can't answer me in words of more than one sylable then i go else where

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Why I gave up being charming with escorts on the first visit.

I just met or spoke to, or emailed too many ice queens/ completely unpleasant women. I know the line of work puts you in front of a lot of guys who are rude or lacking in social graces. That's just the way it is. No blame to anyone here - every occupation has it's hazzards as well as it's upsides.

Seeing as I pay to see an escort every 10 months on average (due to money and justifying the spend). I never manage to end up seeing the same girl - they tend to move website/ city. Some girls have made an effort to be really nice. Some have it in their nature. Some just don't. And it doesn't seem to be price dependent. If a girl is initially stand offish as a caution, that would be cool but the sex market here doesn't allow you to get to know what a girl is really like, until after you splash the cash.

I know what you mean, and I never ever buy fish and chips twice from the same place if the mushy peas aren't up to standard.

It simply isn't good enough! Besides that what about the ones who don't even ask if I want salt and vinegar or batter - I walk away.

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We all know the ice queen types your referring to,I've had some total nightmare punts back in the day..nowa days they are very far and few between.Experiance teaches you the tiny tell tale signs you can pick up on a voice on the telephone or even clues in a WG's website profile,and once I arrive at the escorts location and I'm asked to hand over a price that is higher than the price they quoted over the phone I get up and walk out...no argument or bartering just walk.

I don't think you have to be charming,just courteous and if you click with the lady then do what comes naturally.

I'm always upbeat and friendly when I meet a escort,firstly because I'm excited about the prospect of having no strings sex with a attractive woman,and secondly if the lady does turn out to be a "Ice queen" and the punt goes south I can look back on it and say I was not at fault for arriving with a bad attitude....it was just a bad luck that I got a rip off merchant.

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It would be nice if the OP could remember that we go through many calls and emails in between the guy's who really do want to actaully book an appointment. From personal experience the one's who have a friendly quick chat, get the business details clarified and then perhaps a minute or two at the most of chit chat are the ones most likely to book you. The guys who want to stay chatting for ages or flirting on the phone rarely book, occasionally they suddenly say..oo I just came!!!

This is why some ladies I imagine are not overly flirty, they perhaps are attempting NOT to be wank material.

There is nothing wrong with being to the point and professional during a phone call, the fun should be during the booking surely. I have taken phone calls on the train, out shopping, walking down the street, sitting in a cafe...not the place you want to be having a sexy conversation.

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It would be nice if the OP could remember that we go through many calls and emails in between the guy's who really do want to actaully book an appointment. From personal experience the one's who have a friendly quick chat, get the business details clarified and then perhaps a minute or two at the most of chit chat are the ones most likely to book you. The guys who want to stay chatting for ages or flirting on the phone rarely book, occasionally they suddenly say..oo I just came!!!

This is why some ladies I imagine are not overly flirty, they perhaps are attempting NOT to be wank material.

There is nothing wrong with being to the point and professional during a phone call, the fun should be during the booking surely. I have taken phone calls on the train, out shopping, walking down the street, sitting in a cafe...not the place you want to be having a sexy conversation.

well said Chloe,the words I use on the phone are always the same..

"Hello is that Chloe?...hi,are you avaible around 8pm this is evening?...great I'll give you a call when I get there,bye."

although "Chloe" just an example :-)

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It would be nice if the OP could remember that we go through many calls and emails in between the guy's who really do want to actaully book an appointment. From personal experience the one's who have a friendly quick chat, get the business details clarified and then perhaps a minute or two at the most of chit chat are the ones most likely to book you. The guys who want to stay chatting for ages or flirting on the phone rarely book, occasionally they suddenly say..oo I just came!!!

This is why some ladies I imagine are not overly flirty, they perhaps are attempting NOT to be wank material.

There is nothing wrong with being to the point and professional during a phone call, the fun should be during the booking surely. I have taken phone calls on the train, out shopping, walking down the street, sitting in a cafe...not the place you want to be having a sexy conversation.

Some people have absolutely no manners these days - it must be a hard job dealing with all those Tossers ! :lol:;)

Having said that, I called a girl from the other site the other day to discuss a possible booking for today as she was touring this area, but I could hardly understand a word off her as she was eating her dinner and didnt have the deceny to tell me or stop, but instead just carried on talking and munching...... I would have gladly called her back at her convenience if she had suggested it! ..... needless to say I did not arrange the booking with her in the end !

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Some people have absolutely no manners these days - it must be a hard job dealing with all those Tossers ! :lol:;)

Having said that, I called a girl from the other site the other day to discuss a possible booking for today as she was touring this area, but I could hardly understand a word off her as she was eating her dinner and didnt have the deceny to tell me or stop, but instead just carried on talking and munching...... I would have gladly called her back at her convenience if she had suggested it! ..... needless to say I did not arrange the booking with her in the end !

Hey Prima, what makes you so sure it was her dinner she was chomping on? :lol:

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Why I gave up being charming with escorts on the first visit.

I just met or spoke to, or emailed too many ice queens/ completely unpleasant women. I know the line of work puts you in front of a lot of guys who are rude or lacking in social graces. That's just the way it is. No blame to anyone here - every occupation has it's hazzards as well as it's upsides.

Seeing as I pay to see an escort every 10 months on average (due to money and justifying the spend). I never manage to end up seeing the same girl - they tend to move website/ city. Some girls have made an effort to be really nice. Some have it in their nature. Some just don't. And it doesn't seem to be price dependent. If a girl is initially stand offish as a caution, that would be cool but the sex market here doesn't allow you to get to know what a girl is really like, until after you splash the cash.

It is a real shame you feel like that, not all of the girls are the same and I think you will find if you are charming you will get a much better experience. As for the ice queens just dont book them or if you feel someone is rude when you go to visit just dont go through with the booking. Good manners and a nice approach goes a long way for both ladies and clients.

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Not so; because of this very site, some of my best experiences have been with women I have got to know a bit via PMs and especially the chatroom; I'd like to think that makes things more relaxed for both parties.

I would definately agree with Vin on his conclusion.

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Why I gave up being charming with escorts on the first visit.

I just met or spoke to, or emailed too many ice queens/ completely unpleasant women. I know the line of work puts you in front of a lot of guys who are rude or lacking in social graces. That's just the way it is. No blame to anyone here - every occupation has it's hazzards as well as it's upsides.

Seeing as I pay to see an escort every 10 months on average (due to money and justifying the spend). I never manage to end up seeing the same girl - they tend to move website/ city. Some girls have made an effort to be really nice. Some have it in their nature. Some just don't. And it doesn't seem to be price dependent. If a girl is initially stand offish as a caution, that would be cool but the sex market here doesn't allow you to get to know what a girl is really like, until after you splash the cash.

Hi UKTechhead,

The heading of your thread is a little severe!! it is bound to cause a stir lol. "why I gave up being charming with escorts".

I would say my little motto is treat people like you want to be treated yourself.

If you have had some bad experiences/liasons with a couple of escorts, my advice is put those bad experiences with those individuals- don't

paint everyone with the same brush as there are many good experiences to be had and many good girls around.

Do some proper research- you have plenty of information on good girls in forums like this for example- where as some clients do not have

/or even know forums like this exist- let alone having access to internet.

Good luck for future xxx

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