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I know the subject of this person has been raised before but today I had first hand experience of this odious individual in action this afternoon. I attended the 1pm party at LMP, and spotted a guy there who looked familiar. I thought he must have been someone I had seen at a previous party. However it turned out to be the charmless George McCoy.

He had by telephone agreed to attend this party, but on the strict proviso from both Emma & Moss that this was a commercial transaction and not a freebie for his web site and guide. After partying for a while he dressed and prepared to leave, when challenged he said "Oh don't worry I'll give you some free advertising". And off he went.

I am posting this more by way of a warning for the ladies on this board, what he does in my opinion is theft and possibly sexual assault, all in the name of him getting free sex from WG's and an attempt to promote his tacky tome. Why people would be possessed to purchase this or pay on his web site is beyond me when there are vastly more valuable free resources such as PN and similar sites available.

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He does charge quite a bit but there are more and more sites popping up claiming to rank alongside Pnet, Plink etc and wanting to charge quite a hefty figure.

To be honest I don't get many hits to my site from McCoys but you can never tell how many guys just take you number and description without bothering to click through anyway.

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I know the subject of this person has been raised before but today I had first hand experience of this odious individual in action this afternoon. I attended the 1pm party at LMP, and spotted a guy there who looked familiar. I thought he must have been someone I had seen at a previous party. However it turned out to be the charmless George McCoy.

He had by telephone agreed to attend this party, but on the strict proviso from both Emma & Moss that this was a commercial transaction and not a freebie for his web site and guide. After partying for a while he dressed and prepared to leave, when challenged he said "Oh don't worry I'll give you some free advertising". And off he went.

I am posting this more by way of a warning for the ladies on this board, what he does in my opinion is theft and possibly sexual assault, all in the name of him getting free sex from WG's and an attempt to promote his tacky tome. Why people would be possessed to purchase this or pay on his web site is beyond me when there are vastly more valuable free resources such as PN and similar sites available.

Was he wearing his flat hat?

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One eyebrow goes up that Moss & Emma even let him in. Based on his reputation among working girls and saunas in Edinburgh, the prudent path would be not to let him across the threshold. Paying or not.

I was going to try something witty. But he does not even desrrve that.

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Was he wearing his flat hat?

No that's why I didn't recognise him at first.

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Many girls ( myself included ) have profiles on his site for which we have paid NOTHING.

There was a thread a couple of months back about all of this.... he rang me AFTER he put my details on his site, then suggested he meet me to discuss bigger paid advertising and also that I could perhaps show him how I perform.

I asked if this would be a paid appointment, he said no, I said goodbye.

No doubt he gets plenty of freebies in return for writing nice things about establishments and ladies... but I would not be one of those ladies! :)

If he wants to give me free advertsing then I am not going to complain about that... but I have yet to meet a new client who has told me he found my details on McCoy's site.

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If he wants to give me free advertsing then I am not going to complain about that... but I have yet to meet a new client who has told me he found my details on McCoy's site.

I have yet to meet a single client through old George. He calls from time to time when he is "in the area" asking to meet up to discuss advertising. he left me the longest answer phone message ever telling me who he was and what he does and how good he is at doing it. The message could of been a recorded message as it was absolutely word perfect, bit like a prepared speech. I think most people are aware of the trade off but like Adele it wont be one made with me. (((((Show me the money))))):):D

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You wouldnt phone a plumber and expect him to fix your sink for nothing so why does he think he's entitled to a ladys services for free?

This bloke sounds like a proper tosser :)

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I saw this guy on TV a while back and he's actually what i would have envisaged a punter to look like. I fail to see what harm he is doing, in fact, getting a listing in his guide could prove to be a money spinner. A free shag and exceptional service can ultimately be seen as an investment for a business focused sex worker because he is obviously respected in the industry.

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I think thats disgusting, what a low life.

I have to admit, i did sign up to his site. Only to see what it was all about, it was mentioned to me by another wg and a couple of clients. I didnt really think much of it. Went on it once to see if any of the places id ever worked were reviewed. They werent.

Some people get a taste of power and just take the piss.

In retrospect, i dont actually have much to add to this thread...except i think he sounds like a tool and i hope he never crosses my path

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I saw this guy on TV a while back and he's actually what i would have envisaged a punter to look like. I fail to see what harm he is doing, in fact, getting a listing in his guide could prove to be a money spinner. A free shag and exceptional service can ultimately be seen as an investment for a business focused sex worker because he is obviously respected in the industry.

What hes failed to do with a couple of people is be up front. Stating he doesnt intend to pay until after the services is provided. If a 'normal' punter did that theyd be on an 'avoid' list. Its using his position to get freebies and its not on.

If a girl/agency was told up front what the deal was theyd have the opportunity to opt in or out. He hasnt given that option to all the girls posting

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What hes failed to do with a couple of people is be up front. Stating he doesnt intend to pay until after the services is provided. If a 'normal' punter did that theyd be on an 'avoid' list. Its using his position to get freebies and its not on.

If a girl/agency was told up front what the deal was theyd have the opportunity to opt in or out. He hasnt given that option to all the girls posting

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I'm surprised that sex would be done before payment. Are you saying that he would give a bad report if you requested payment?

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... he is obviously respected in the industry.

By who? Certainly not anyone I know of.

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I'm surprised that sex would be done before payment. Are you saying that he would give a bad report if you requested payment?

Believe ot or not, some agencies ive worked at made it their policy not to ask for payment. If the girl asked for the money up front the client would tell the agency and the girl would get a rollocking. I/we had to wait until the client was ready to pay. I digress..

I never said anything about him threatening a bad report... SashaB and Adele made comments about his procedure. Ive never had the pleasure; sadly.

The threat can be there though when someone is in a position of power. You dont always have to say something to imply it. Im not saying this mccoy man has done that, just replying that these things can and do happen

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I first spoke to him on the home from a really bad car accident I was in(yes my car was a wreck, and I was very lucky!). I told him what had just happened but he still went on about a banner exchange, free advertising etc. I'm now be charged quite a bit to be on the site.

If we gave freebies to everyone who was going to write a good review we would never make any money.

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This is a familiar story, he did something similar to us and the real cheek was he arranged a meet to talk about advertising. You feel conned into paying for the advertising under fear of a bad write up.

Having agreed to take on a add with him he followed with, "I have a bit of time to kill before my next appointment, do you have anyone available?". Nievely I said yes, it didnt even cross my mind he was after a freebie. Upon seeing the girl when quizzed about money, he simply laughed and said, "Oh no, Sasha will sort that out for me". I had only 30 minutes earlier handed him over £500 in cash and he refused to pay back a mere £80 for the girl. it cost me the add and the girls fees.

Since then he has called twice, once pushing to come and do an article on the girls for the sport of which he wanted to take pictures and charge £50 a girl for the privilage. I simply told him the sport wasnt our market. The second time more recently he was going to be "in the area" and reminded me our add is due for renewal. I have renewed the add but inisted I was unavailable to meet and would bank his fee.

He must know what people think of him, but saying that I dont really think he cares. I wonder if the sport would take on a expose against one of thier writers who as mentioned above could be considered an executor of sexual assault. I would of thought the side could easily and willingly turn against him. Sleeze must be his middle name, it surely should be

£500 cash? bloody hell just to be in the book or does he offer another advertising outlet?

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To be honest you cannot blame him for trying to take advantage of a situation which he has engineered. He has created his guide books, and done apparently heaps of nationwide research. If he had to pay for every "road test" he would not make any money at all from his business/hobby, call it what you will.

If you as a W.G or an establishment have been duped into providing a freeby recently, then it is probably your own fault.

G M lives in a world prior to the internet, and good sites like this will provide a far better service that he can offer.

In short, he has had his day. Technology has overtaken him. If he is able to compete with sites like this, he will stay afloat, but I sincerely doubt it. Good web sites have few competitors. Has e-Bay or Youtube got an equal alternative?

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We were already in the book and listed on his website, he had already made his assesment on us.

His site is a pay site, clients pay to subscribe and view the details inside. He called me very proud of his new idea, stating that he had only ever really earned a living from the books and the subscription website, never any "Real" money but now he had an idea to get escorts to pay for thier details to be made public to non subscribers.

The advertising is to make our listing public so that you dont have to subscribe or log in to view it. Its £180 per listing, he made a point of telling me that all of our local competitors had paid for thier listings, At the time we covered Woking and Guildford which comes under Surrey so that was 3 listings. He is very good at brandishing around names, he made several references to one of our nearest local competitors, without a doubt trying to play one off against the other. We were stuck in the "if our competitors have done it" trap.

I cant really discribe how he makes you feel other than making your skin crawl and he has never said or even implied as much but of course you hear stories about him writing bad reviews on agencies that dont play ball, you get the distinct impression you would be unwise to say no.

It seems to me if you know nothing about the indistry he is almost like a god, a wealth of valuable information but as soon as your eyes have been opened you realise thats really not the case and that no one I have ever met within the industry respects him or even likes him.

Then it may be time to call his bluff.

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We were already in the book and listed on his website, he had already made his assesment on us.

His site is a pay site, clients pay to subscribe and view the details inside. He called me very proud of his new idea, stating that he had only ever really earned a living from the books and the subscription website, never any "Real" money but now he had an idea to get escorts to pay for thier details to be made public to non subscribers.

The advertising is to make our listing public so that you dont have to subscribe or log in to view it. Its £180 per listing, he made a point of telling me that all of our local competitors had paid for thier listings, At the time we covered Woking and Guildford which comes under Surrey so that was 3 listings. He is very good at brandishing around names, he made several references to one of our nearest local competitors, without a doubt trying to play one off against the other. We were stuck in the "if our competitors have done it" trap.

I cant really discribe how he makes you feel other than making your skin crawl and he has never said or even implied as much but of course you hear stories about him writing bad reviews on agencies that dont play ball, you get the distinct impression you would be unwise to say no.

It seems to me if you know nothing about the indistry he is almost like a god, a wealth of valuable information but as soon as your eyes have been opened you realise thats really not the case and that no one I have ever met within the industry respects him or even likes him.

When a punter calls up do they ever say or do you ask where they saw your ads? seems rather an expensive narrow advertising field if you ask me.

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George gave one of my parlours 3 stars once, just because he could not get a freebie...we were too busy.

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I know the subject of this person has been raised before but today I had first hand experience of this odious individual in action this afternoon. I attended the 1pm party at LMP, and spotted a guy there who looked familiar. I thought he must have been someone I had seen at a previous party. However it turned out to be the charmless George McCoy.

He had by telephone agreed to attend this party, but on the strict proviso from both Emma & Moss that this was a commercial transaction and not a freebie for his web site and guide. After partying for a while he dressed and prepared to leave, when challenged he said "Oh don't worry I'll give you some free advertising". And off he went.

I am posting this more by way of a warning for the ladies on this board, what he does in my opinion is theft and possibly sexual assault, all in the name of him getting free sex from WG's and an attempt to promote his tacky tome. Why people would be possessed to purchase this or pay on his web site is beyond me when there are vastly more valuable free resources such as PN and similar sites available.

I note Home Office researchers used his guide as 1 of 3 sources that were used to give the 4000 trafficked ladies figures, that were in reality 255.

I agree with you about why anyone would buy his guide or subscribe to his site, he obviously just wants to get his jollys for free as much as possible, from his point of view its a great way to gain access to WGs.

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I know the subject of this person has been raised before but today I had first hand experience of this odious individual in action this afternoon. I attended the 1pm party at LMP, and spotted a guy there who looked familiar. I thought he must have been someone I had seen at a previous party. However it turned out to be the charmless George McCoy.

He had by telephone agreed to attend this party, but on the strict proviso from both Emma & Moss that this was a commercial transaction and not a freebie for his web site and guide. After partying for a while he dressed and prepared to leave, when challenged he said "Oh don't worry I'll give you some free advertising". And off he went.

I am posting this more by way of a warning for the ladies on this board, what he does in my opinion is theft and possibly sexual assault, all in the name of him getting free sex from WG's and an attempt to promote his tacky tome. Why people would be possessed to purchase this or pay on his web site is beyond me when there are vastly more valuable free resources such as PN and similar sites available.

Emma & Moss bust know he pays for nothing! For me he's a punting parasite but like ** I know girls who prosper from his visits!

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I've tried to find out where most callers see my details, there are some sharp ones out there who will mention Pnet, Plink or other regional sites but the majority will just the "the internet". When you ask which site they've seen they then go all funny as if I'm putting them on the spot, or asking a trick question.

Do a lot guys really not remember where they found details of a particular Escort?Also an awful lot seem to have problems with their PC's 'crashing' so they don't get chance to have a proper look around my site.

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