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I am incredibly irritated by a couple of assumptions that are sometimes made. They make me grind my teeth and have to take deep breaths before replying.

1st - Somewhere in my background is abuse of some form. i.e. If you are a prostitute you do this work because you consider yourself 'worthless' or have issues. Grrrr!

2nd - I have no options and do this work because I am incapable of getting anything else. I'm thick as two short planks for example. Grrr!

Just a thought, but anyone ever considered I do this work because I enjoy sex, am a people person, it pays very well and gives me a huge amount of freedom. Just a thought.......

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I am incredibly irritated by a couple of assumptions that are sometimes made. They make me grind my teeth and have to take deep breaths before replying.

1st - Somewhere in my background is abuse of some form. i.e. If you are a prostitute you do this work because you consider yourself 'worthless' or have issues. Grrrr!

2nd - I have no options and do this work because I am incapable of getting anything else. I'm thick as two short planks for example. Grrr!

Just a thought, but anyone ever considered I do this work because I enjoy sex, am a people person, it pays very well and gives me a huge amount of freedom. Just a thought.......

I always treat WGs as what they are, a unique individual human being so try not to make assumptions but i daresay i have and do on ocassion.

Many WGs have told me over the decades that they are WGs because it pays well and they can work round their existing commitments such as childcare or training, others say they just love sex and to get paid for it is great. So yes i do consider it but unless the lady volunteers the reasons which actually often happens especially after a couple of return punts or with regulars i dont pry as its her business just like its mine why i punt. :)

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I am incredibly irritated by a couple of assumptions that are sometimes made. They make me grind my teeth and have to take deep breaths before replying.

1st - Somewhere in my background is abuse of some form. i.e. If you are a prostitute you do this work because you consider yourself 'worthless' or have issues. Grrrr!

2nd - I have no options and do this work because I am incapable of getting anything else. I'm thick as two short planks for example. Grrr!

Just a thought, but anyone ever considered I do this work because I enjoy sex, am a people person, it pays very well and gives me a huge amount of freedom. Just a thought.......

Good speech. X

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Nope I'm incapable of considering anything because I am a punter ;)

Ignorance and assumption are everywhere. If I could charge by the hour to bone women I'd never met before I'd be to busy to reply right now. I am well educated and the worst abuse I ever received was non-sexual and bloody funny now I look back at it. Also I managed to get over my fear of the dark during that episode. Buahahaaha how I cried at the time.

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Lol, I find it slightly annoying when someone says "A lovely girl like you shouldn't be doing this".....urm well why have you come to see me then if you want my services! It's the assumption that it's not something "nice" girls do. Hurumph!

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I am incredibly irritated by a couple of assumptions that are sometimes made. They make me grind my teeth and have to take deep breaths before replying.

1st - Somewhere in my background is abuse of some form. i.e. If you are a prostitute you do this work because you consider yourself 'worthless' or have issues. Grrrr!

2nd - I have no options and do this work because I am incapable of getting anything else. I'm thick as two short planks for example. Grrr!

Just a thought, but anyone ever considered I do this work because I enjoy sex, am a people person, it pays very well and gives me a huge amount of freedom. Just a thought.......

Kizzie, do you think your position and reasons for choosing this line of work are common ?

Do you think you speak for a majority of UK based wgs ?

I'd like to think this is the case but I really just don't know ?!

Good for you in any case, and in an ideal punting world the majority of wgs one conducted business with would be as similarly independent, strong, confident and as happy in their choice as you are

Would be interesting to find some genuine (i.e free from bias/vested interests) and reliable statistics on this subject

(fat chance I suspect !!)

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I will tell you what assumption I am sick of reading:

the one about ladies having two choices.... this job or stacking shelves

in Tesco!

ggggggrrrr

I did once stack shelves. I was 15 and it was my Saturday job.

But thank god for shelf stackers I say! Otherwise how would I find my

jammie dodgers and sprouts?

:rolleyes:

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I am incredibly irritated by a couple of assumptions that are sometimes made. They make me grind my teeth and have to take deep breaths before replying.1st - Somewhere in my background is abuse of some form. i.e. If you are a prostitute you do this work because you consider yourself 'worthless' or have issues. Grrrr!2nd - I have no options and do this work because I am incapable of getting anything else. I'm thick as two short planks for example. Grrr!Just a thought, but anyone ever considered I do this work because I enjoy sex, am a people person, it pays very well and gives me a huge amount of freedom. Just a thought.......

Kizzie, do you think your position and reasons for choosing this line of work are common ?Do you think you speak for a majority of UK based wgs ?I'd like to think this is the case but I really just don't know ?!Good for you in any case, and in an ideal punting world the majority of wgs one conducted business with would be as similarly independent, strong, confident and as happy in their choice as you areWould be interesting to find some genuine (i.e free from bias/vested interests) and reliable statistics on this subject (fat chance I suspect !!)

I think that very few WG's (and I probably exclude street girls here) would do this job if they didn't enjoy sex, hated meeting new people, it paid minimum wage and it was 14 hour days...............

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Kizzie, do you think your position and reasons for choosing this line of work are common ?

Do you think you speak for a majority of UK based wgs ?

I'd like to think this is the case but I really just don't know ?!

mm

Good for you in any case, and in an ideal punting world the majority of wgs one conducted business with would be as similarly independent, strong, confident and as happy in their choice as you are

Would be interesting to find some genuine (i.e free from bias/vested interests) and reliable statistics on this subject

(fat chance I suspect !!)

Impossible to guess. I can tell you that since i started (august 2010) i've met WG's just like me, who are happy with their choices and however they got into it (debt for most, swinging for another couple etc) feel extremely satisfied with their lot! but i have met those who seem to hate it and the clients and themselves! my friendships, quite naturally, tend to develop with those who share my outlook. But even the happiest hooker could suddenly decide she was a 'victim' confronted with being outed by a newspaper her Dad reads?

On the other hand, this forum is full of punters i.e. my bread & butter & caviar! I could hate every waking moment of my day, be just off for my next fix or have a vicious pimp checking my spelling over my shoulder! if any of those were true, i'm hardly likely to post it on here. It's a bit of a minefield really. have no idea who would have the resources or interest to do a fair survey of us lot - not street walkers, not high-class escorts (give me strength) who only entertain sheikhs and princes, but us - the ones in the middle, the majority i'd guess.

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But thank god for shelf stackers I say! Otherwise how would I find my

jammie dodgers and sprouts?

:rolleyes:

And thanks for cleaners and those who unblock toilets, not a job I'd like, but I'm glad that these jobs get done.

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I will tell you what assumption I am sick of reading:

the one about ladies having two choices.... this job or stacking shelves

in Tesco!

ggggggrrrr

I did once stack shelves. I was 15 and it was my Saturday job.

But thank god for shelf stackers I say! Otherwise how would I find my

jammie dodgers and sprouts?

:rolleyes:

True, but how many WGs have another job option that allows them the same flexibility and anywhere close to their per hour earnings potential that their current job has?

I would suggest that there may be some, but in reality very very few.

Bear in mind that the median income of a female in 2010 was £439. (source: http://www.statistic...gget.asp?id=285)

Assuming that the assertions are true and that WGs come from all walks of life, were they not escorts, that is the amount a WG could expect to earn in a regular job.

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Actually I really hate the assumption that I must be rolling in it!

Yes, I may charge £100 for an hour, but that doesn't mean I'm working 8 hrs a day 7 days a week.

When guys cancel or no show etc they often seem to think it won't matter because we make loads per hour and therefore must be raking it in and thus missed appointments won't matter.

In actual fact I have rent, tax and bills to pay just like most normal people, and I only escort part time and don't have a huge amount of disposable income left at the end of it. So yes, missed/no show/cancelled appointments DO make a difference.

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The assumption that I get a lot is "Oh, you're actually very intelligent aren't you?" :angry:

Ummmm yes...I AM intelligent...I DO have a degree and several other professional qualifications and I'm pretty clued up about Life...I don't do this because I'm too stupid to do anything else...in fact quite the opposite - This is my way of reaching my true goals and dreams...

I also get annoyed when people think that I'm rolling in it...that I must have thousands upon thousands of pounds lying around somewhere. That might be the case for some WG's that charge £300+ per hour...but I certainly don't charge that and therefore don't have loads of money...As another Poster said, I still have Rent, bills and other stuff to pay for just like everyone else...

You know what they say about assuming things? - It makes an "ass" out of "U" and "Me" B)

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But thank god for shelf stackers I say! Otherwise how would I find my

jammie dodgers and sprouts?

If they didn't keep shifting them to another aisle every five minutes, I'd find them a damn sight quicker. Grr.

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Yes, I may charge £100 for an hour, but that doesn't mean I'm working 8 hrs a day 7 days a week.

True, one week in four you're out of action as well. ;)

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I am incredibly irritated by a couple of assumptions that are sometimes made. They make me grind my teeth and have to take deep breaths before replying.

1st - Somewhere in my background is abuse of some form. i.e. If you are a prostitute you do this work because you consider yourself 'worthless' or have issues. Grrrr!

2nd - I have no options and do this work because I am incapable of getting anything else. I'm thick as two short planks for example. Grrr!

Just a thought, but anyone ever considered I do this work because I enjoy sex, am a people person, it pays very well and gives me a huge amount of freedom. Just a thought.......

I feel there is resentment from those who have to pay for sex. We know you do it for the money. If you seriously liked shagging a plethora of male specimens either you are one of a few, have mental issues or are telling porkies. I detect you are comfortable, sensible and very publicity conscious. Who really cares what you or I think? Nobody has to justify anything.

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True, but how many WGs have another job option that allows them the same flexibility and anywhere close to their per hour earnings potential that their current job has?

I would suggest that there may be some, but in reality very very few.

Bear in mind that the median income of a female in 2010 was £439. (source: http://www.statistic...gget.asp?id=285)

Assuming that the assertions are true and that WGs come from all walks of life, were they not escorts, that is the amount a WG could expect to earn in a regular job.

For me one of the fascinations of punting has been the sheer variety of women, and where chat has been on the agenda, reasons and backgrounds. In the part of the game where I punt comfortably, I would say single motherhood is the biggest driver. That is not to say that most of the women I meet don't have the earning power to make enough in a straight job. But rather that to realise the necessary level of earning would create other problems - child care expenses and not enough time with their children at the top of the list.

Then there are the phalanx of "outcall agency" WGs who were around for a couple of years while they did a late return to education to top up the quals, and needed again to pay for the child care and the family hols etc.

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I am incredibly irritated by a couple of assumptions that are sometimes made. They make me grind my teeth and have to take deep breaths before replying.

1st - Somewhere in my background is abuse of some form. i.e. If you are a prostitute you do this work because you consider yourself 'worthless' or have issues. Grrrr!

2nd - I have no options and do this work because I am incapable of getting anything else. I'm thick as two short planks for example. Grrr!

Just a thought, but anyone ever considered I do this work because I enjoy sex, am a people person, it pays very well and gives me a huge amount of freedom. Just a thought.......

I hope that I have never been guilty of any of the above - the other day, in post-coital chat for no particular reason that I can now recall, I mentioned that I had failed to go solo on a Chipmunk after 11 hours dual - the lovely, and naked, lady beside me said that she was a student pilot, and, although she was kind enough not to say so, I got the strong impression that she had sailed past the hurdle at which I had fallen FLAT!

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If they didn't keep shifting them to another aisle every five minutes, I'd find them a damn sight quicker. Grr.

Grrr, indeed! But that's Morrisons', I think? Try Waitrose instead, where things generally stay put.

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I feel there is resentment from those who have to pay for sex. We know you do it for the money. If you seriously liked shagging a plethora of male specimens either you are one of a few, have mental issues or are telling porkies. I detect you are comfortable, sensible and very publicity conscious. Who really cares what you or I think? Nobody has to justify anything.

What do you mean by resentment from those for those who have to pay for sex? Do you mean that only men who are in a position of feeling they HAVE to, or do you mean all punters? What kind of resentment? Of course the money is a factor as it is in any job we take in our working lives, but I can honestly say I actually enjoy this line of work. If the money was a bit better doing something else such as working on a production line, which is my idea of hell (not that I have ANYTHING against those that do this job) then I would DEFINITELY still be escorting. Like in any job we all have more than one reason for deciding that this is the job for us at this time in our lives. I think it is pretty insulting to suggest that we are all lying through the eye teeth about our reasons.

If I have misinterpreted what you said then apologies in advance :)

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One guy stopped seeing me because I told him my son was going to be a xxxxxxxxy xxxxxxxr.......he was astounded ! Oh he was happy to boast to me about his sister's children and what they were hoping to become after uni, and I listened and joined in the convo by agreeing with him about further education. When I mentioned my son's career path, he looked at me as if I had just stopped by from another hemisphere and his expression was a picture. - As if to say "how on earth would the child of a prostitute succeed in life"? It was written all over his silly face, and this man who I had seen regularly for about four years, stopped seeing me after that meet.

Another guy in a hotel one night talked to me about families and when I told him I had children, he asked me where they were, "are they in care"? How I did not blow I will never know.. It was one of those count the minutes left until I can leave situations.

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An assumption that really p*sses me off, and a few punters on here are guilty of this too and really should know better, is that anyone employing wgs services do so because they HAVE TO as they couldn't get sex any other way.

Due to the expense involved (my disposable income is sufficient) and/or the social stigma attached to using escorts (couldn't give a hoot about that) many just refuse to believe that you punt by choice, even going so far as to insist that you MUST HAVE TO PAY to get laid otherwise 'why would you?!??

Even certain posters on here (usually male) INSIST that you wouldn't CHOOSE to pay for sex if you could get it 'for free' ..... my guess is that they are the ones who HAVE to pay and so due to their inability to 'pull' on civvy street are adamant that it MUST be true that anyone else who pays does so for the same reason they do

Errrrr......... convenience, ease, the opportunity to enjoy, hassle-free, 'congress' with a variety of very attractive and skilled sexual partners, clear boundaries, lack of emotional commitments/entanglements...........in a nutshell it's easily obtainable sex with a gorgeous and skilled partner......and then you leave

Who wants the pain in the ass and effort of trying to pull women in pubs, bars and clubs when all you want is sex and not a relationship ?! ....... Punting is as easy as picking up the phone !

The other irritating assumption is that there MUST be problems at home if you punt (as I do) while in a relationship, because why pay ?.......etc, blah,blah....etc...

Nope no problems - I'm just greedy as far as sex goes......and that's all there is to it !

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One guy stopped seeing me because I told him my son was going to be a xxxxxxxxy xxxxxxxr.......he was astounded ! Oh he was happy to boast to me about his sister's children and what they were hoping to become after uni, and I listened and joined in the convo by agreeing with him about further education. When I mentioned my son's career path, he looked at me as if I had just stopped by from another hemisphere and his expression was a picture. - As if to say "how on earth would the child of a prostitute succeed in life"? It was written all over his silly face, and this man who I had seen regularly for about four years, stopped seeing me after that meet.

Another guy in a hotel one night talked to me about families and when I told him I had children, he asked me where they were, "are they in care"? How I did not blow I will never know.. It was one of those count the minutes left until I can leave situations.

Think you must have 'pricked' that first guys bubble of smug, self-satisfied superiority :D

Both cases here are perfect examples of deep-seated prejudice and the first illustrates very well how fragile an ego is when it's sense of superiority is built upon ignorant assumption

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If a client asks you for services you do not do. do you get upset?

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An assumption that really p*sses me off, and a few punters on here are guilty of this too and really should know better, is that anyone employing wgs services do so because they HAVE TO as they couldn't get sex any other way.

Due to the expense involved (my disposable income is sufficient) and/or the social stigma attached to using escorts (couldn't give a hoot about that) many just refuse to believe that you punt by choice, even going so far as to insist that you MUST HAVE TO PAY to get laid otherwise 'why would you?!??

Even certain posters on here (usually male) INSIST that you wouldn't CHOOSE to pay for sex if you could get it 'for free' ..... my guess is that they are the ones who HAVE to pay and so due to their inability to 'pull' on civvy street are adamant that it MUST be true that anyone else who pays does so for the same reason they do

Errrrr......... convenience, ease, the opportunity to enjoy, hassle-free, 'congress' with a variety of very attractive and skilled sexual partners, clear boundaries, lack of emotional commitments/entanglements...........in a nutshell it's easily obtainable sex with a gorgeous and skilled partner......and then you leave

Who wants the pain in the ass and effort of trying to pull women in pubs, bars and clubs when all you want is sex and not a relationship ?! ....... Punting is as easy as picking up the phone !

The other irritating assumption is that there MUST be problems at home if you punt (as I do) while in a relationship, because why pay ?.......etc, blah,blah....etc...

Nope no problems - I'm just greedy as far as sex goes......and that's all there is to it !

Choosing to pay for sex must have it's own advantages, that is obvious. You get to choose exactly who you want to shag for starters, and you choose when and where, and for how long. I doubt that happens much with a civilain !

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