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Been thinking about this for a while now and still not sure. Over the past few years, there has been an influx of EE girls. Has this driven prices down? Reduced quality? Driven out British working girls or made them have to lower price and standards to compete? The other issue that worries me is that to stay in the game, have these ladies had to add services that they wouldnt normally offer? This sounds great for the punter but does it not also increase health risks to both parties?

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Been thinking about this for a while now and still not sure. Over the past few years, there has been an influx of EE girls. Has this driven prices down? Reduced quality? Driven out British working girls or made them have to lower price and standards to compete? The other issue that worries me is that to stay in the game, have these ladies had to add services that they wouldnt normally offer? This sounds great for the punter but does it not also increase health risks to both parties?

EE WGs arrived here and certainly drove prices down in my experiences, its not reduced quality as quality depends on the individual WGs attitude which has nothing to do with price or where she is from. WGs charge what they believe they can. As to services its up to the WG to decide what they will or wont offer, in the 80s virtually no WGs kissed as it was for their partners only, now its my favourite service and i dont punt without it or OWO. They offer what i require which certainly suits me. After not catching anything and going to the GUM quartely to make sure the risks are well worth the rewards to me. Obviously i am only talking about WGs here through free choice.

Overall its free market capitalism at its best, competition is a wonderful thing for punters, long may it continue. :)

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It hasnt really affected prices, as its virtually a price cartel wherever you go. However the standard of looks has improved, as the foreign girls are usually nice looking. More services are on offer I imagine, but still a lot of girls are coming into the business expecting easy money, for doing as little as possible, they dont last, unless they are shagging the parlour boss.

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In 5 years of punting I don't think prices have come down at all.

I don't think the quality's gone down. I've had good and bad punts at the start and in recent months.

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Been thinking about this for a while now and still not sure. Over the past few years, there has been an influx of EE girls. Has this driven prices down? Reduced quality? Driven out British working girls or made them have to lower price and standards to compete? The other issue that worries me is that to stay in the game, have these ladies had to add services that they wouldnt normally offer? This sounds great for the punter but does it not also increase health risks to both parties?

Personally, I think the influx of EE girls (and other nationalities) had certainly brought a wider choice. When I saw my first WG in 2001, there were virtually no EE girls, very few black girls and very few WGs offering anal sex.

In addition to the influx, punters have a far greater choice, and this results in far greater competition, which in turn helps keen prices competitive. In 2001 I was paying £100hr in Sheffield, or £120 in Birmingham for an outcall, and those prices are still possible. The development of the internet has also had a lot to do with it, and has allowed WGs to promote themselves in relative safety and not resort to the streets.

There has been a number of downsides with the influx of EE girls. The worst one IMHO, has been the increase in the number offering bareback sex, prevalent in girls from Poland. Add to that the increase in the number of scammers and rip=off/bait & switch merchants, and girls with postage stamp size photos. It's also brought an inevitable increase in the number of girls offering a poor service, not to mention language barrier, and the "here today, gone tomorrow" nature of the EE hookers. I dont like the fact that many EE girls are obviously managed by a series of pimps.

I've sampled 3-4 EE girls who have ranged from almost comatoze to superb, but you could say that about indiginous ladies too. That said, I am off EE girls at present, and prefer to support our own ladies.

Finally, this forum had played a vital role in the provision and exchange of information to both punters and WGs, and long may it continue. It's a disappointment that **, which is after all, a good resource for finding escorts, has not really done anything significant to stem the tide of scam escorts and false photos that pervade the site. Plus it still allows ladies to change their profile names at will, meaning the same basic profile can be used for several girls visiting the UK over several months and using the same set of photos, thus clearly deceiving punters. Once set up, a nickname should stay until the profile is deleted/suspended.

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In these parts there's been an increase in the number of girls who hide their first language, who are not specific about bareback or covered, and who share a quite amazing ability to replicate parts of profiles. They seem to have the simultaneous notion to make 'special offers' of silly low prices and several seem to be new to the business, the city or only here a week or two. Most are 19 to 23, and I wonder at their maturity to be so well-presented on their first outing into the world of paid sex.

They are mainly non-UK, I guess, but not all are European. My feeling is that a percentage are working for a system which provides profile material, pricing policies, and transport between flats or parlours in various locations across the UK. I am not arguing that they are victims, but the apparent level of organisation causes me to ask myself just how 'independent' they are.

As a distinguished man whose first language was not English once remarked: 'I think that I smell a fish'.

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Finally, this forum had played a vital role in the provision and exchange of information to both punters and WGs, and long may it continue. It's a disappointment that **, which is after all, a good resource for finding escorts, has not really done anything significant to stem the tide of scam escorts and false photos that pervade the site. Plus it still allows ladies to change their profile names at will, meaning the same basic profile can be used for several girls visiting the UK over several months and using the same set of photos, thus clearly deceiving punters. Once set up, a nickname should stay until the profile is deleted/suspended.

It is a damm shame that they haven't they could probably wipe them out overnight, i do report profiles that have stolen pictures and are obviously fake sometimes they get removed sometimes they dont.

It just makes being a user of the site sometimes difficult what annoys me most is dodgy girls on their who can abandon a profile with negative feedback and just make a brand new one. I've been told that escorts on the site can see if anyone emailing them has other profiles on the site. Surely letting everyone see that info would make some escorts and picture sellers not see the bother in creating multiple accounts to tout their wares.

As for EE girls i have found myself not being as up for them as i used to.

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It is a damm shame that they haven't they could probably wipe them out overnight, i do report profiles that have stolen pictures and are obviously fake sometimes they get removed sometimes they dont.

It just makes being a user of the site sometimes difficult what annoys me most is dodgy girls on their who can abandon a profile with negative feedback and just make a brand new one. I've been told that escorts on the site can see if anyone emailing them has other profiles on the site. Surely letting everyone see that info would make some escorts and picture sellers not see the bother in creating multiple accounts to tout their wares.

As for EE girls i have found myself not being as up for them as i used to.

The other site arent in business to help punters though, just make money for themselves so while they continue to do so i cant see them changing their tried and tested existing modus.

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In these parts there's been an increase in the number of girls who hide their first language, who are not specific about bareback or covered, and who share a quite amazing ability to replicate parts of profiles. They seem to have the simultaneous notion to make 'special offers' of silly low prices and several seem to be new to the business, the city or only here a week or two. Most are 19 to 23, and I wonder at their maturity to be so well-presented on their first outing into the world of paid sex.

They are mainly non-UK, I guess, but not all are European. My feeling is that a percentage are working for a system which provides profile material, pricing policies, and transport between flats or parlours in various locations across the UK. I am not arguing that they are victims, but the apparent level of organisation causes me to ask myself just how 'independent' they are.

As a distinguished man whose first language was not English once remarked: 'I think that I smell a fish'.

I can smell it myself now. I wouldnt be surprised if some WGs advertising as Indies actually work in the same way as an Agency or Parlour in reality, giving an agreed cut in exchange for the incall premises and creating and maintaining their profiles. I hope none are being forced against their wills.

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The other site arent in business to help punters though, just make money for themselves so while they continue to do so i cant see them changing their tried and tested existing modus.

Yeah you're right.

It's a shame another site as user friendly and popular for searching escorts out quickly like the purple that hasn't popped up yet.

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In these parts there's been an increase in the number of girls who hide their first language, who are not specific about bareback or covered, and who share a quite amazing ability to replicate parts of profiles. They seem to have the simultaneous notion to make 'special offers' of silly low prices and several seem to be new to the business, the city or only here a week or two. Most are 19 to 23, and I wonder at their maturity to be so well-presented on their first outing into the world of paid sex.

They are mainly non-UK, I guess, but not all are European. My feeling is that a percentage are working for a system which provides profile material, pricing policies, and transport between flats or parlours in various locations across the UK. I am not arguing that they are victims, but the apparent level of organisation causes me to ask myself just how 'independent' they are.

As a distinguished man whose first language was not English once remarked: 'I think that I smell a fish'.

Partly why i tend to avoid them, things like this. I've seen a few that even have stuff like 'when you call you'll speak to my male friend who will take the booking as my english is not good'. Great way to punt, with a girl who doesn't even know english and is only her for one or two weeks on 'holiday'

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I have come across one or two good EE girls but generally many have limited English skills which puts me off. So I travel to parlours where most are native English speakers.

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Been thinking about this for a while now and still not sure. Over the past few years, there has been an influx of EE girls. Has this driven prices down? Reduced quality? Driven out British working girls or made them have to lower price and standards to compete? The other issue that worries me is that to stay in the game, have these ladies had to add services that they wouldnt normally offer? This sounds great for the punter but does it not also increase health risks to both parties?

Please it is time to get over the idea that women from Russia or Eastern Europe are "Foreign".

Believe it or not the UK is part of Europe, so a European in Europe is about as foreign as Brie Cheese or Stella Atois or Manchester United... Is it only the British who seem not to understand this ?

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I've had five EE girls in my time, four of whom are in my top ten girls (which, incidentally, only has three UK girls in it, two of which have retired far too early). Of these four starlets, I've seen three of them twice, although I would have visited all four of them far more times if I had gotten the opportunity. One in particular would probably be my all time favourite if I had gotten the chance to make her a regular.

Conversely, of the nine mediocre or bad punts I've had, six of them were UK girls. In fact, I've punted with ten UK girls, meaning just four out of ten UK girls I've punted with were worth the money.

So from my experience, EE girls are brilliant value for money, and present a MUCH safer bet than UK girls. Of course, I don't live in a punting wonderland like MK or London.

As regards to quality of English spoken, I've found EE girls to be pretty good English speakers. More importantly, they've been able to understand my jokes, so the banter has been excellent. On the other hand, the last two UK girls I punted with just couldn't get my jokes, so the banter was awful. I'd much rather spend time with a girl who misses the odd pronoun or says "spended" instead of "spent" but still gets the gist of what you are saying, rather than someone who is a native English speaker but needs jokes broken down into parts before they understand what you're saying. But then I only use indies, and I suppose you need to have at least a half-decent grasp of the language to be able to set yourself up, rather than having an agency ship you in and out.

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Influx, you may call it. I love it. The choice. It creates the competition to keep the punting prices down. If not things would be like in Australia where native workers getaway charging any amount. I visit wgs expecting good dirty sex not to assess English skill. oh, I def assess her French skills..lol.

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Ive had about 15 EE girls over the last 2 years, and about 25 British WG's in the last 3 years. Speaking of EE WG's; one was like like the above mentioned, the rest as either fit (not rough) lapdancers or high class escorts. Id rate most of them better than most of the British WG's ive had.

Overall, EE WG's have and do everything better except most of them shy away from kissing, have small-average sized tits, some dont speak english well. Which arnt deal breakers but im referring to a sort of in-depth bottom-line comparison.

Thats just from my experiences though.

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Please it is time to get over the idea that women from Russia or Eastern Europe are "Foreign".

Believe it or not the UK is part of Europe, so a European in Europe is about as foreign as Brie Cheese or Stella Atois or Manchester United... Is it only the British who seem not to understand this ?

Tosh!!

Yes we are all European but we are not all from the same country which is how everyone decides who is one of them and who is a foreigner lol. I am not Russian, French, Italian or any other European nationality, I am English and proud of it, this does not mean I am against the rest of the world, quite the opposite, I just know my own identity. An Italian in Russia is a foreigner, a brit in Luxemburg is a foreigner, a czech in malta is a foreigner! It does not mean we are rejecting each other, it just means we were born in a different country, rather than try to lump everyone under they "woo hoo we are all European" banner it would be preferable that we all celebrate our own nationalities, cultures, languages and traditions whilst also embracing others.

By the way, I do believe if you said to a French person that Brie and Stella Atois are european not french they would be highly likely to tell you to piss off....in the nicest european way of course ,and who could blame them.xxx

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By the way, I do believe if you said to a French person that Brie and Stella Atois are european not french they would be highly likely to tell you to piss off....in the nicest european way of course ,and who could blame them.xxx

Stella Artois is Belgian. Try Kronenbourg 1664.

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Stella Artois is Belgian. Try Kronenbourg 1664.

lol.okay you got me there then :blink: I am not a beer or lager drinker, the adverts had a definate french accent in the 90's though .

the principle still applies though.xx

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Personally, I think the influx of EE girls (and other nationalities) had certainly brought a wider choice. When I saw my first WG in 2001, there were virtually no EE girls, very few black girls and very few WGs offering anal sex.

In addition to the influx, punters have a far greater choice, and this results in far greater competition, which in turn helps keen prices competitive. In 2001 I was paying £100hr in Sheffield, or £120 in Birmingham for an outcall, and those prices are still possible. The development of the internet has also had a lot to do with it, and has allowed WGs to promote themselves in relative safety and not resort to the streets.

Taggart believe It or not there have been East Euro girls In UK for a long time, they just said they were Italian, Spanish, Swedish, Finnish, Greek etc.

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lol.okay you got me there then :blink: I am not a beer or lager drinker, the adverts had a definate french accent in the 90's though .

the principle still applies though.xx

Those Stella ads are BS, Stella has been brewed In Leuven which Is the capital of the province of flemish speaking Brabant, so not French Waloon. :)

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Why do romanian girls claim to be from somewhere else? Mind you everyone I have been with, has been absolute rubbish, so that might be the answer to the question. I reckon they should stick to selling the big issue.

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I started punting in earnest in the early 90s after dabbling with the occasional FBSM up to then. All the early providers were home grown and some very talented. Could have had GFE in Birmingham (Hagley Road), Oldham (the Georgian) and the Wirral (Nordic (?) Sauna) in those days but it was me who backed off and asked for the vanilla version.

Prices were a fraction of those in London and the home counties as the north-south divide was a lot more evident in more ways than one. It was towards the end of that period that I finally had my first GFE in Edinburgh with a Scots lass in Edinburgh (Executive Sauna). This provided the benchmark for paving the way for further GFEs all with Brits in Edinburgh (Scorpio's and Carol's), Glasgow (Aquarius and Woodlands), Oldham (Georgian) and Stoke (Tingles) which became the norm for me.

I first became aware of EEs as providers in the early 21st century through discovering Soho walkups and yes in London & the home counties where I predominantly punt nowadays prices have stabilised over the past decade and GFE commonplace. I am certain this is to do with the influx from the expanded EE. Obviously for local talent to compete, they need to match prices accordingly and punters in this generation are getting a far deal than before both in terms of service and price. And as for health considerations, the EEs are every bit as aware as Brits - bb providers exist in both camps.

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........... British working girls or made them have to lower price and standards to compete?

Generally British girls have had to raise their standards to compete against EE girls, or go out of business, and not before time either.

Of course now that they have become established the EE girls have started taking the michael.

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Why do romanian girls claim to be from somewhere else? Mind you everyone I have been with, has been absolute rubbish, so that might be the answer to the question. I reckon they should stick to selling the big issue.

Very many foreign WGs claim to be from somewhere else, i have often punted with them and they have said they were from say Poland but the next time its Hungary. Always makes me chuckle and i really couldnt care less as all i require is good service, where they are from is neither here nor there in getting that in my experience as its obviously down to the individual WGs attitude not where she is from that makes or breaks my punts. :)

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