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How Many Good Agencies Are There?

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I'd define a good agency as one that provides skilled enthusiastic WG's, in clean and attractive premises, and operates with minimum service standards. These standards should include:-

1/ All WG's services accurately known... either clearly displayed on website... or told accurately in response to phone enquiries.

2/ All photos actually show actual WG, and show her as she is now.

3/ A reliable booking system.

4/ Accurate addresses given at least day before. (At least to postcode level.)

5/ All customer complaints diligently investigated. Where appropriate adequate recompense should be given.

None of that is outlandishly ambitious... not where average service charge is around £150 per hour. But... I reckon fewer than 10% of Agencies qualify as good on my definition. Are things really as bad as I believe? Or are my standards too high? (If so... please tell me how you define "good agency".)

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I'd define a good agency as one that provides skilled enthusiastic WG's, in clean and attractive premises, and operates with minimum service standards. These standards should include:-

1/ All WG's services accurately known... either clearly displayed on website... or told accurately in response to phone enquiries.

2/ All photos actually show actual WG, and show her as she is now.

3/ A reliable booking system.

4/ Accurate addresses given at least day before. (At least to postcode level.)

5/ All customer complaints diligently investigated. Where appropriate adequate recompense should be given.

None of that is outlandishly ambitious... not where average service charge is around £150 per hour. But... I reckon fewer than 10% of Agencies qualify as good on my definition. Are things really as bad as I believe? Or are my standards too high? (If so... please tell me how you define "good agency".)

You know my answer. ;) Lying cheating scum who will fuck you over at every opportunity in my past experiences. NEVER trust anything most tell you, their receptionists are either born blatant liars or get in-depth on the job training in lying to punters.

Your 5 point standards are an alien concept to many as there only interest is getting you to the punt by any means possible and relying on you thinking with your dick and staying anyway. They give not a jot if its just a one-off or not, they arent smart or honest enough to think about return custom and know there are a lot of mug punters out there with no idea of sites like this and reviews on WGs/Establishments to keep them in business unfortunately.

On the other hand there are good Agencies out there as shown by there many FRs and/or posts on here. In London HOD SK proves good punts can be had at a reasonable price. :)

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In London HOD SK proves good punts can be had at a reasonable price. :)

HOD SK isn't actually an agency though is it, it operates as a 2 girl parlour 5 days a week, 11am till 9pm. Agencies can run from 10am to 2am, or later, seven days a week, and with twenty or so girls all at different locations, many of whom are also working simultaneously through other agencies.

The logistics are on a completely different scale.

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HOD SK isn't actually an agency though is it, it operates as a 2 girl parlour 5 days a week, 11am till 9pm. Agencies can run from 10am to 2am, or later, seven days a week, and with twenty or so girls all at different locations, many of whom are also working simultaneously through other agencies.

The logistics are on a completely different scale.

I take your point. The logistics of different incall and outcall locations and the number of WGs is on a different scale for sure but no excuse for lying to punters or posting fake pictures which Maxes Angels has been caught out doing on another thread assuming its true. This is hardly an isolated case and on the Megan thread on this board A Beautiful Amore seems well dodgy.

Obviously there are good Agencies as FRs prove and posts on here show, their prices ensure they wont get my business and where possible and with partying for example its not i prefer to give the WG 100% of the fee. I require VFM when punting so can find that at much lower costs than most Agencies charge. I have no interest in punting in the early hours or in luxury premises if it means paying more for the privilege but clearly some punters will.

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The agencies I have used have all been allright.

The only bait and switch I have encountered was with acemassage which isn't an agency as far as I know.

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We ARE looking for the Holy Grail!

Accurate picture?...even jaffa cakes have a batch of photo perfect ones baked for the adverts

Updated photos?....so every time they change hair color another 300 quid photo shoot required, oh come on!

Reliable bookings...that i would hope for( at least to standard of a local mini cab office)

Addresses...nah...just the neerest tube is fair enough till you are an hour away, get the A to Z on your i phone

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We ARE looking for the Holy Grail!

Accurate picture?...even jaffa cakes have a batch of photo perfect ones baked for the adverts

Updated photos?....so every time they change hair color another 300 quid photo shoot required, oh come on!

Reliable bookings...that i would hope for( at least to standard of a local mini cab office)

Addresses...nah...just the neerest tube is fair enough till you are an hour away, get the A to Z on your i phone

Did I mention a new photo every time hair colour changed? And why... with todays digital cameras... would anybody need a £300 photo shoot IF requirement is actually an accurate photo? What I'd got in mind was a reasonably up to date photo of actual WG... rather than a photo of a model on other side of world, or photo of WG a decade ago. Bit of a tangent... but what on earth does an agency do when a long standing valued customer books a WG, who the agency suspect is using a dodgy photo?? Do good customers get a tip-off??

I take your point about Jaffa cakes... but I don't pay £150 per hour to consort with a Jaffa cake..... and they (Jaffa cakes) all look much the same. Women don't, and an important part of the package (for most guys) is how WG looks. A good agency looking for repeat business... ought (I think) to use accurate photos.

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I've used Barracuda, Diva, ATOC, Hot Collection, Supreme 69, 90M for a number of years, there have been mix ups and disappointments but generally the agencies have handled things very well. There have been girls who look nothing like their photos, and that is a big thing for me, looks are a big part of the deal, but i don't think any outfit that publishes pictures of sex workers in their adverts can put their hand on their hearts and say they don't know that they are taking the piss some of the time. We all know how wayward some WG's can be some of the time, so its not always down to the agency when things go wrong. Should agencies dump girls I haven't got on with ? probably not, just because I left their flat thinking Christ what a waste of money, doesn't mean that the next punter is not going to find his dream woman behind the same door.

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Maxes Angels do have some unique services some other agencies don't offer.

The thing I don't like is they delete any sort of negative review. I said one or two things about Julia, who is leaving by the way in September.

They have almost tried to ban me from the agency. Also their pictures are sometimes out of date. Although they do try to update.

Some punters virtually worship some of the angels. tut.

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I'd define a good agency as one that provides skilled enthusiastic WG's, in clean and attractive premises, and operates with minimum service standards. These standards should include:-

1/ All WG's services accurately known... either clearly displayed on website... or told accurately in response to phone enquiries.

2/ All photos actually show actual WG, and show her as she is now.

3/ A reliable booking system.

4/ Accurate addresses given at least day before. (At least to postcode level.)

5/ All customer complaints diligently investigated. Where appropriate adequate recompense should be given.

None of that is outlandishly ambitious... not where average service charge is around £150 per hour. But... I reckon fewer than 10% of Agencies qualify as good on my definition. Are things really as bad as I believe? Or are my standards too high? (If so... please tell me how you define "good agency".)

I am very dubious about the big glossy agencies and when I venture off home territory I look to Indies with FRs from authors I trust or private recommendations (OK an occasional wild card based on site presentation and telephon manner also pays off)

But on my home ground there are indeed very good agencies. They are a bit "cottage industry" being fairly small and run by women who know the business. The girls all say "X is lovely and really looks after us" and I find that they do not just take the booking regardless. A week or so back I was horny as hell, phoned up about a girl (the only one available that day but very attractive) to be told "not your type at all, you would not get on" Ok I'll call back when one of her recommends is on.

Similary I can ring up when I am not booking but making a plan for a coming opportunity, and discuss the available and get recommends based on who will suit.

There must be agencies like that in most areas. as with indie girls, cultivating a good agency and being a regular pays dividends.

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Maxes Angels do have some unique services some other agencies don't offer.

The thing I don't like is they delete any sort of negative review. I said one or two things about Julia, who is leaving by the way in September.

They have almost tried to ban me from the agency. Also their pictures are sometimes out of date. Although they do try to update.

Some punters virtually worship some of the angels. tut.

Can you list these unique services please. :)

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I am very dubious about the big glossy agencies and when I venture off home territory I look to Indies with FRs from authors I trust or private recommendations (OK an occasional wild card based on site presentation and telephon manner also pays off)

But on my home ground there are indeed very good agencies. They are a bit "cottage industry" being fairly small and run by women who know the business. The girls all say "X is lovely and really looks after us" and I find that they do not just take the booking regardless. A week or so back I was horny as hell, phoned up about a girl (the only one available that day but very attractive) to be told "not your type at all, you would not get on" Ok I'll call back when one of her recommends is on.

Similary I can ring up when I am not booking but making a plan for a coming opportunity, and discuss the available and get recommends based on who will suit.

There must be agencies like that in most areas. as with indie girls, cultivating a good agency and being a regular pays dividends.

This sounds very good, sadly my experiences with Agencies were from the receptionist to the manager/owner they were all lying arseholes telling me all sorts of bullshit to get me to the punt and rely on my thinking with my dick whether the WG offered the services i required or not or whether i fancied her. I would only now consider them if i wish to punt with a certain WG who as far as i know is only available through them, then see if she will see me Indie from then on ensuring she gets 100% of my fee and i pay less than through the Agency, a win win except for the Agency of course.

Parlours i have found to be more honest and a couple of party providers, with another couple being worse than Agencies in their bullshit.

Overall, i find Indies more honest, a small number lie blatantly, quite a few lie about their age or size which isnt normally a problem to me, but i punt with those i feel offer VFM, most Agencies in London anyway dont offer prices i view as VFM and after seeing the Parlour ;) HOD South Kensington priced at £120 an hour excluding Anal, it tells me they must make a profit on this so Agencies charging usually at least £150 an hour and often much more are just greedy and wont get my business. The only thing an Agency offers over a Parlour certainly and some Indies are some are open 24/7 or near to so if you feel like a punt in the early hours and at weekends they might have WGs available. I will happily forgo these things and stick to Indies, Parlours and Parties. :)

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Maxes Angels do have some unique services some other agencies don't offer.

The thing I don't like is they delete any sort of negative review. I said one or two things about Julia, who is leaving by the way in September.

They have almost tried to ban me from the agency. Also their pictures are sometimes out of date. Although they do try to update.

Some punters virtually worship some of the angels. tut.

Can you list these unique services please. :)

Yes what are these unique services?

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My own view is that because money changes hands, agency owners and parlour receptionists as spineless as used car salesmen. The lowest of the low, just like estate agent and solictors.

They are all on commission so lie and cheat to convice the punter to part with his cash. Some weeks ago I was looking for a new car, and the first one I drove, which had 76000 on clock was a worse drive than my Beamer with 125000 on the clock. He gave me all manner of bull when questioned, and even told massive porkes over the warranty, and past MoTs - he said it had never failed an MoT or had an advisory, yet I found one failure and 2 advisiories online (DVLA).

Agency people dont know fat from thin, thick from intelligent and a size 8 from a size 18. That's why I stick with indies - then I only have myself to blame.

One day, someone will take an agency to court under the Trades Descripions Act..........

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Agency Touch of Class was ok when I got to London on a regular basis some years back, but my last look at their site quite recently suggested they no longer have the quality of girls on their books they used to have. Nevertheless, if I was going to the Smoke for a punt I would definitely have a look at what they had to offer and go from there to the FR's.

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People here don't seem to have a high opinion of agencies. I have no high opinion of anything in the UK punting scene - I only punt there to relieve the itch - but I think I must be less against agencies than the average poster on this thread. Never thought I'd be saying "Things aren't as bad as that, chaps" about any part of the scene.

You may be disappointed in me if I say nothing negative. So how about the experiences of getting no answers to calls to agencies or "Your call is important to us, please hold" followed by plenty of music but no action. Is this just a foreigner's bad luck?

The main problem with London agencies is quality control. I haven't found anything much wrong with the fronts the agencies put up (when they're actually answering their telephones) even if those could be improved. For instance, the receptionist for Supreme 69 (seems to have only one) does her job well enough but her English isn't the best. I would have thought a good idea for business in England would be to have a front person who could communicate well with English-speaking customers.

Quality control means checking that the WGs on their books won't do a horrible or useless job as WGs. Checking before they advertise them to the general punter public and checking that they're not becoming horrible or useless afterwards. Like Supreme 69 most don't, I think, but some possibly do it.

Maxes Angels is the best agency I know anything about. Quite OK. Their telephonists I've spoken to would benefit from a short course at a charm school and from learning to hold the telephone further away from their mouths but they get the job done without mistakes. Like a Yugoslavian mechanic who did some emergency welding for me once. Very similar style.

It's worth mentioning that 2 of their WGs said spontaneously to me that they were very happy and positive about the agency. I've never heard that from any other agency's WGs. Has anyone here?

Maxes Angels do have some unique services some other agencies don't offer.

The thing I don't like is they delete any sort of negative review.

If that's what they do it may not matter now. The last time I looked at their site it seemed you couldn't read their reports unless you had a password, you wouldn't get that unless you'd made a booking through them, and the access would only work for 2 weeks after the booking. I can understand that for writing reports. But reading?? I never heard anything about passwords when I was dealing with them so this may be new.

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Smiths clearly has a lot of anger that worries me its just not healthy to be that angry and sad to be that cynical.

There are a lot of good agencies but very few great agencies.

Noone gets it right 100% of the time and London in particular is a saturated market.

However those who are honest and reliable with a professional approach will always come out on top.

Those who are not will not be surviving long in the current climate

Enough said end vent

Chloe x

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Smiths clearly has a lot of anger that worries me its just not healthy to be that angry and sad to be that cynical.

There are a lot of good agencies but very few great agencies.

Noone gets it right 100% of the time and London in particular is a saturated market.

However those who are honest and reliable with a professional approach will always come out on top.

Those who are not will not be surviving long in the current climate

Enough said end vent

Chloe x

Its from personal experiences. Easily solved though, i dont go to Agencies any more unless a WG i fancy isnt available Indie.

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Agencies are intermediaries like estate agents , recruitment consultants

How many exceptional estate agents, recruitment consultants do you know?

None because they don't have to be, they advertise, and convert calls to cash

Thats the imperative - converting calls to cash. Not tailoring to personal taste. It's not worth the effort in their view

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good agents...

Nostromo has it summed up nicely: there are "good" agents, or at least agents that don't abuse the customer.

Advice from an agent you dont know (e.g. your fave isnt on tonight, but he has someone else...) is Extremely dodgy: The agent will probably recommend the least-booked girl, or at least recommend whatever is in HIS interest, not yours.

I have build up a "regularity" with some agents.

And when they consistently not let me down, I begin to trust them a little.

It takes time, trial and Error...

It helps is the agent is in business for a long time, and aims to stay in biz.

It helps if the agent has genuinely listened to both you and the girls.

It helps if the agent is female, even better if you have actually seen her as an Escort

(she'll know your taste! There are a few Delicious and Competent Agents out there, Nikki, Lixie, ..)

Good agents may surface and sustain better in a transparent market, but but this market isnt transparent yet.

The FR system helps.

The board helps.

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I once thought (amid all the PC stuff I got at the office at the time) ...

A green label would be nice, I'd frequent only those Ladies/Agents who use green energy, use made-in-dignity-lingerie, provide fair-trade coffee, serve green tea and wine from politically correct countries...

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I'm on a roll:

One aspect of a quality Agent is : Tolerance.

A good, confident, agent doesnt go nasty if a girl goes Indie or even starts her own outfit.

Some of the best Agents started life themselves as Agency-girls,

some went through an "indie" period as well, before starting their own outfit.

In dog-eat, shady industry this one: the agent who can tolerate these career-moves can get my respect.

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good agents...

Nostromo has it summed up nicely: there are "good" agents, or at least agents that don't abuse the customer.

Advice from an agent you dont know (e.g. your fave isnt on tonight, but he has someone else...) is Extremely dodgy: The agent will probably recommend the least-booked girl, or at least recommend whatever is in HIS interest, not yours.

I have build up a "regularity" with some agents.

And when they consistently not let me down, I begin to trust them a little.

It takes time, trial and Error...

It helps is the agent is in business for a long time, and aims to stay in biz.

It helps if the agent has genuinely listened to both you and the girls.

It helps if the agent is female, even better if you have actually seen her as an Escort

(she'll know your taste! There are a few Delicious and Competent Agents out there, Nikki, Lixie, ..)

Good agents may surface and sustain better in a transparent market, but but this market isnt transparent yet.

The FR system helps.

The board helps.

Good post, i agree with you. Abuse was what i got on many occassions but the rated Establishments in MK many of which are run by ex-WGs show good punter relations pay off in the long run. Obviously there are many other Establishments who do the same. They are run to a professional standard not the dodgy del-boy standards of the Establishments it was my misfortune to have dealings with years ago and more recently.

As you so rightly say this market isnt transparent yet but sites like this do help those who know about them and a great service they provide. :)

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I think there are probably a lot more bad agencies than good agencies, and I think I got lucky as the 1st agency I ever used, i'm still using now. The owner is a very good people person for a start, very good at making you feel like a valued customer as any business should do that wants you to spend your cash with them. She has high standards of the girls who work for her and represent her brand name, and every one of her girls i've met is fantastic. The owner also values feedback and reports, which is important too. I've not had cause to make a complaint to her yet but I feel that if I did she would listen to my complaint and try to resolve it.

So I think it is possible to run a good agency, mainly if the people running it treat it like any other business, one in which employees and customers are highly valued, thus you will get low staff turnover and also a high percentage of repeat business from customers.

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Which agency are you using, philuk?

I have used Maxes, Olina and Diva Escorts without any problems whatsoever.

Ace Massage (is that even a proper agency?) subjected me to a bait and switch once and 121asians promised services the girl refused to do.

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