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Niche Services And High Fees

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I've read on another forum duscussion about the charges of well known escort and porn star, who charges now £600 per hour. (Tgger Benson)

Mainly discussion are predictable with the contributions. In short...

If she can get it, good look to her, but I never will pay even 20% of that amount.

Market forces and all that.

She is good, but not that good.

I punted with her in HOD for £60, she was excellent, but not going to pay £600

I can get much more beautiful and younger WG in Thailand for £30 for a whole night

and the rest of them in the similar theme.

However it seems that most of them (or at least then ones who wrote on the forum) missing the point. According to Tigger Benson, she provides niche and sought after services, where not many WGs could do it, hence she charges her high fee for it.

For example, quote from her post: So I only do work that is 'specialised' now such as fetish, watersports, rough throatfucking which I like AND is kind of a premium service that other girls won't do.

Personally speaking, something like "rough throatfucking" I would not do it for a millions, never mind for some poxy £600.

The question is, should niche services dictate the premium rates? IMHO, it definitely should, regardless even if WG genuinely enjoy them or not?

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But that's market forces, she offers something with a point of difference (also in this case something with limited supply), and can therefore justify (in her mind at least) charging what she does.

Market forces will also dictate whether she can continue to charge these amounts.

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The "debate" you allude just baffles me. I can't afford £600 per hour.... and thankfully don't need that sort of money to enjoy myself. But I can't see anything wrong with WG's asking for that rate, and really rich guys paying it if they want to. That to me is acceptable business practice... I save my grumpiness for bait and switch, using way out of date pictures, advertising services that aren't provided, late cancellations without good reason, etc.

But to give my answer to your question ("should niche services attract premium prices?" The answer is... it all depends on the good old laws of supply and demand. Take three potential niche services: punters watching WG's drink tea; role play; and severe throatfucking.

In the first I assume few men want such a service, and many WG's would be happy to oblige... therefore no premium price, indeed might attract lower than normal rates.

In second I's guess relatively few men are interested in really getting into roleplay, and a fair number of WG's are also interested... again I wouldn't normally expect a premium price. (Though it may be an area where its difficult to become really good... and an acknowledged expert would probably attract good rates.)

Third case?? It does seem that demand outstrips supply.... and I'd certainly expect a premium price.

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i find watching a pretty gril putting away a proper breakfast fryup very sexy.

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It's back to the old addage that cost is relative to those who pay it. A guy on the dole has a £5.00 Casio wrist watch, David Beckham no doubt has several watches running into the several thousands of pounds bracket. At the end of the day they do the same job to a degree. A bespoke, niche or tailored service in most industries will cost you more, whether it's furniture, cars, or clothing; again there are cheaper alternatives in these instances that are just as good, if not better.

If the lady can get £600 per hour then good luck to her, I certainly wouldn't pay it and neither would most of the guys i chat to on here. As Tibbs pointed out market forces will dicate whether she can continue to charge such a price. It no doubt means she can see fewer customers and perhaps break even at her previous rates; whether she makes more money in the long run, only she can tell us that.

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But that's market forces, she offers something with a point of difference (also in this case something with limited supply), and can therefore justify (in her mind at least) charging what she does.

Market forces will also dictate whether she can continue to charge these amounts.

Market forces does not exactly apply in this business. If the girl does not really rely on income from this work, she can advertise on the web for nought, put her fee £1000 per hour, and I guarantee you she will get at least one client in a year who will pay that. (just out of the curiosity, and expecting some kind of novelty shag). Lack of the clients (ie: market forces) would not make her to charge less, as she does not want this clients in the first place. If she got one, its just a tidy bonus for her. Does not mean she will be "worth" this £1000.

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It's not really niche services especially when you have girls like Naughty Girl Soph providing the same service at an infintely lower rate (though still higher than the "average" escort).

However there's always the case that some porn stars like to charge an inflated rate because essentially they are providing someone with the opportunity to fuck their fantasy.

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i find watching a pretty gril putting away a proper breakfast fryup very sexy.

That is not a "niche" service, you silly sod. :-)

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Market forces does not exactly apply in this business. If the girl does not really rely on income from this work, she can advertise on the web for nought, put her fee £1000 per hour, and I guarantee you she will get at least one client in a year who will pay that. (just out of the curiosity, and expecting some kind of novelty shag). Lack of the clients (ie: market forces) would not make her to charge less, as she does not want this clients in the first place. If she got one, its just a tidy bonus for her. Does not mean she will be "worth" this £1000.

Paid sex is probably the most pure example of market forces in the world. Lots of suppliers, lots of consumers, (almost) perfect information via the internet and little to no regulation. Also the costs of production are pretty much the same for everyone. Rent would be the only major variable depending on location.

You've changed the parameters to fit your argument, and that's just lazy. Of course a girl's pricing model is going to be different if she isn't reliant on the money, but most are, and so the market model applies.

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I've read on another forum duscussion about the charges of well known escort and porn star, who charges now £600 per hour. (Tgger Benson)

Mainly discussion are predictable with the contributions. In short...

If she can get it, good look to her, but I never will pay even 20% of that amount.

Market forces and all that.

She is good, but not that good.

I punted with her in HOD for £60, she was excellent, but not going to pay £600

I can get much more beautiful and younger WG in Thailand for £30 for a whole night

and the rest of them in the similar theme.

However it seems that most of them (or at least then ones who wrote on the forum) missing the point. According to Tigger Benson, she provides niche and sought after services, where not many WGs could do it, hence she charges her high fee for it.

For example, quote from her post: So I only do work that is 'specialised' now such as fetish, watersports, rough throatfucking which I like AND is kind of a premium service that other girls won't do.

Personally speaking, something like "rough throatfucking" I would not do it for a millions, never mind for some poxy £600.

The question is, should niche services dictate the premium rates? IMHO, it definitely should, regardless even if WG genuinely enjoy them or not?

Xenia, so you would have read my posts then. When I stated that as a client of hers I don't pay 600 per hour.

Then I was getting jumped on for not disclosing what I have been paying.

What was annoying me was that as soon as a well known talented wg came on the site she was told to more or less fcuk off out of it, when if she had been welcomed and accepted she had a lot to contribute to the site.

Do you know how rare it is for her to comment in public, then she gets shot down and everybody loses. Not really the way forward to close the gap between punter/ wg ...just my opinion .

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You've changed the parameters to fit your argument, and that's just lazy. Of course a girl's pricing model is going to be different if she isn't reliant on the money, but most are, and so the market model applies.

Yes, I am guilty. I did not had an argument as such in the first place, I just was answering one highlighted point, and doing so gone off topic from the original question, which I raised myself.

Still: I am only judging on the present WGs who I closely know. Of course they reliant on the income from this business, but there is no way they going to drop the charges in accordance with the market, because it does not financially worth for them to do this kind of work for less. Of course if they charged £80 or so per 30 minutes, they wold get an abundance of clients, but they don't want to do it.

They rather stuck to outcalls, with 3-5 regulars, and income around £2000 per month, instead of "devote" themselves to 30 min-1 hour quickies for £3000-£4000 per month, and then don't even have time to weed out the overgrown rhubarbs in theirs gardens.

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Xenia, so you would have read my posts then. When I stated that as a client of hers I don't pay 600 per hour.

Then I was getting jumped on for not disclosing what I have been paying.

What was annoying me was that as soon as a well known talented wg came on the site she was told to more or less fcuk off out of it, when if she had been welcomed and accepted she had a lot to contribute to the site.

Do you know how rare it is for her to comment in public, then she gets shot down and everybody loses. Not really the way forward to close the gap between punter/ wg ...just my opinion .

Thats just the way this site is operates. At the present I don't know any WG who contributes there, without some kind of disdain from core members. (apart of FattWG, which took different stance from her real "persona" to fit in, and I am sure she laughing away, how they fell for it, or not).

I can't see any WG will stay there for long. If anything remotely truthful she would attempt to post, she would get a ban, or ban herself, after realising the that she accidentally put her her foot in the shit, and let the contributors there to stew in theirs own bile.

Saying that: the board is incredibly useful for guys, if only on the point that discussion on аdultwоrк encouraged, which is not allowed here. (big mistake!) May they continue.

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Thats just the way this site is operates. At the present I don't know any WG who contributes there, without some kind of disdain from core members. (apart of FattWG, which took different stance from her real "persona" to fit in, and I am sure she laughing away, how they fell for it, or not).

I can't see any WG will stay there for long. If anything remotely truthful she would attempt to post, she would get a ban, or ban herself, after realising the that she accidentally put her her foot in the shit, and let the contributors there to stew in theirs own bile.

Saying that: the board is incredibly useful for guys, if only on the point that discussion on аdultwоrк encouraged, which is not allowed here. (big mistake!) May they continue.

A lot of them pour disdain on each other, not just WGs.

The girl in question didn't help her herself with her 'peanuts and monkeys' comment either........it was patronising to both girls who charge less and guys who will not or cannot pay her fees.

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i find watching a pretty gril putting away a proper breakfast fryup very sexy.

That is not a "niche" service, you silly sod. :-)

It could be - its just a very small niche - I suppose CP is prepared to pay for this service ? A slim pretty "gril" (deliberate spelling mistake ?) could only do this occasionally or she would not be slim and pretty any more.

And what's with you today Xenia, were you bored ? Maybe you could plan a little tour to London ? No ? Oh well, I must find an excuse to visit the West Midlands.

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It could be - its just a very small niche - I suppose CP is prepared to pay for this service ? A slim pretty "gril" (deliberate spelling mistake ?) could only do this occasionally or she would not be slim and pretty any more.

And what's with you today Xenia, were you bored ? Maybe you could plan a little tour to London ? No ? Oh well, I must find an excuse to visit the West Midlands.

All depends on "where" she puts it away! Extra sausages anyone????? B)

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Still: I am only judging on the present WGs who I closely know. Of course they reliant on the income from this business, but there is no way they going to drop the charges in accordance with the market, because it does not financially worth for them to do this kind of work for less. Of course if they charged £80 or so per 30 minutes, they wold get an abundance of clients, but they don't want to do it.

They rather stuck to outcalls, with 3-5 regulars, and income around £2000 per month, instead of "devote" themselves to 30 min-1 hour quickies for £3000-£4000 per month, and then don't even have time to weed out the overgrown rhubarbs in theirs gardens.

There is really no financial incentive for a supplier to drop prices in this sort of market, they would make a short term gain (the extra couple of £1000) but, due to perfect information, other suppliers would then be forced to drop their prices to retrieve customers lost ( there being only so many consumers to go around). Now no-one is making enough money to keep operating so prices eventually return to the previous equilibrium.

On a lighter note weeding your overgrown ruhbarb patch would definately be considered a specialist service worth at least £600/hr of anyones money :)

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It could be - its just a very small niche - I suppose CP is prepared to pay for this service ? A slim pretty "gril" (deliberate spelling mistake ?) could only do this occasionally or she would not be slim and pretty any more.

And what's with you today Xenia, were you bored ? Maybe you could plan a little tour to London ? No ? Oh well, I must find an excuse to visit the West Midlands.

I suspect CP was making a joke about my example of watching tea drunk as a niche service... if not he made me laugh by accident rather than design. (Incidentally I think attitude to tea drinking as part of punt is a good indicator of age. I now find its essential before round two. Never thought it would come to that.)

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It astonishes me how het up some guys can get over WG rates. Each girl sets her own price point as a unique (for her) balance of financial need, desired workload and sense of self worth. Some girls end up at £80/hour, some at £600/hour. If I can't afford their resulting price point, I look elsewhere. In the areas that I punt, there is plenty of choice (and a bewildering array of niche services) in the price range I generally am happy with (£100 to £150). Live and let live I say.

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"me love you long time"

me like it B)

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i find watching a pretty gril putting away a proper breakfast fryup very sexy.

but how much would you pay for that lol.xxxx (on top of the price of the fry-up)

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It's not really niche services especially when you have girls like Naughty Girl Soph providing the same service at an infintely lower rate (though still higher than the "average" escort).

However there's always the case that some porn stars like to charge an inflated rate because essentially they are providing someone with the opportunity to fuck their fantasy.

The trouble with porn stars is that not all of them actually provide the same thing that you see them doing on the dvd. Their own personality comes into play during 1-2-1 bookings which I have noticed doesnt always go down with a paying punter very well...so should they really be charging a lot more unless they can guarantee the client will get exactly what he has been watching.

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Xenia, so you would have read my posts then. When I stated that as a client of hers I don't pay 600 per hour.

Then I was getting jumped on for not disclosing what I have been paying.

What was annoying me was that as soon as a well known talented wg came on the site she was told to more or less fcuk off out of it, when if she had been welcomed and accepted she had a lot to contribute to the site.

Do you know how rare it is for her to comment in public, then she gets shot down and everybody loses. Not really the way forward to close the gap between punter/ wg ...just my opinion .

I would hazzard a guess that public comments by her are no more rare than ANY wg who isnt a forum member lol.

Sorry but if you choose to be a member of that site then you already know how bias they are against wg,s and how they have publicly shouted on many an occasion that no wg,s comments are welcome there unless they tow the party line. wg,s there are either shot down in flames or their posts just randomly deleted because the small minded men that run it cannot stomach a wg having an opinion that differs to their own. The wg.s that do succeed on their have to be VERY careful how they word their opinions which to me means that they cannot REALLY voice their true opinions...censorship you know lol.

I think you know that if Tiger came onto this site to make her comments she would be far more openly recieved and would be able to defend herself better.

You cannot really come on here and complain about a girls treatment on THAT site now can you. She is not the first wg who has been spoken to like crap on that site and she is guaranteed not to be the last either...unless of course wg,s just dont bother with it anymore...and who could blame them.

Actions speak louder than words...if you dont like a forums treatment...boycott and leave.xxx

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Paid sex is probably the most pure example of market forces in the world. Lots of suppliers, lots of consumers, (almost) perfect information via the internet and little to no regulation. Also the costs of production are pretty much the same for everyone. Rent would be the only major variable depending on location.

You've changed the parameters to fit your argument, and that's just lazy. Of course a girl's pricing model is going to be different if she isn't reliant on the money, but most are, and so the market model applies.

a girl who is not reliant on the money she makes as an escort does not mean she will always charge more...sometimes she will charge higher knowing it doesnt matter that she gets fewer clients, sometimes she will charge lower knowing that the money is pin money anyway so is just picky with her bookings possibly.

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That is not a "niche" service, you silly sod. :-)

i think it is actually. Do you know how many women are online every day getting paid for men to watch them literally stuff their faces...apparently it is not such a small market either.

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If a niche service is hardsports, for which 1023 escorting ladies advertise BTW, I wouldn't pay anything for this becasue I don't find it erotic, a turn on and probably it is quite smelly......

Sorry. I don't understand Anal either, its not what your bum hole was designed for. Nor one's mouth, come to think about it but at least one's mouth is not smelly, generally.

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