Sarah Summers

Services Across The Years

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Reading the thread about prices across the years was interesting and it reminded me of a conversation I had with a fellow WG friend who worked in the Leeds area back in the day.

When I first began as an indie, I had a small ad in The Sport which worked brilliantly. I still have some of those clients to this day, and that was around seven years ago I think.

I needed my own website though, and I started looking at other ladies' sites in Leeds and saw one which I liked. The lady whose name escapes me now was wearing a red catsuit and she looked gorgeous, so I called her and asked her for the name of her webmaster. That was how it began for me and I have never looked back.

He built me a fabulous groundbreaking website. I was flying in those days. These days I am cruising.. :)

I spoke to that girl several times afterwards, and one one occasion she told me she was retiring because she could not handle the work any more.

She told me when she started working everything was covered - blow jobs - everything, and there was no anal or rimming, or very much else by the sound of it. She could not cope with the demands of ordinary men any more; she said that putting a bare cock into her mouth made her feel sick, but she knew this was what the punters were now demanding and so she left the industry. She's doing something else now and is happy I believe.

For me, the services thing was never an issue because I just did and do - pretty much what I like, and what I feel like at the time, but for some ladies of another time who only provided certain things it must have been a shock to the system.

These days, especially with the Internet being the King of everything, a man can get pretty much what he likes ( some of it makes me feel sick to think about) but nevertheless it is all out there for you guys.

I wonder do the prices these days truly reflect what you can get for your money, given that services like anal are now expected rather than hoped for?

Is this why girls have to state all those dos and do nots on their sites (which I hate and won't do) I wonder?

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Reading the thread about prices across the years was interesting and it reminded me of a conversation I had with a fellow WG friend who worked in the Leeds area back in the day.

When I first began as an indie, I had a small ad in The Sport which worked brilliantly. I still have some of those clients to this day, and that was around seven years ago I think.

I needed my own website though, and I started looking at other ladies' sites in Leeds and saw one which I liked. The lady whose name escapes me now was wearing a red catsuit and she looked gorgeous, so I called her and asked her for the name of her webmaster. That was how it began for me and I have never looked back.

He built me a fabulous groundbreaking website. I was flying in those days. These days I am cruising.. :)

I spoke to that girl several times afterwards, and one one occasion she told me she was retiring because she could not handle the work any more.

She told me when she started working everything was covered - blow jobs - everything, and there was no anal or rimming, or very much else by the sound of it. She could not cope with the demands of ordinary men any more; she said that putting a bare cock into her mouth made her feel sick, but she knew this was what the punters were now demanding and so she left the industry. She's doing something else now and is happy I believe.

For me, the services thing was never an issue because I just did and do - pretty much what I like, and what I feel like at the time, but for some ladies of another time who only provided certain things it must have been a shock to the system.

These days, especially with the Internet being the King of everything, a man can get pretty much what he likes ( some of it makes me feel sick to think about) but nevertheless it is all out there for you guys.

I wonder do the prices these days truly reflect what you can get for your money, given that services like anal are now expected rather than hoped for?

Is this why girls have to state all those dos and do nots on their sites (which I hate and won't do) I wonder?

That's a really good point and I have been also wondering about this also!

I think working girls offering specialist services that are more in the fetish realm charge an extra fee such as water sports and the other sport which I don't subscribe to...

Having the working girl outline their Do's and Don't's is something that punters like me find quite beneficial as I don't have to go and waste my time and enquiry via email or phone to then find out she will not do a particular service when all of this could be avoided if she was to outline this on her site.

I understand your point of view where you would offer a particular service depending how you feel at the time, however this can not be set in stone for punters that want a particular service and to hope you would provide this depending what mood your... you either provide that service or you don't.

I think we live in a time where their is something for everybody, Mistress, school girl fantasies, water sports, anal, foot fetish etc... In my experience the women that offers a good standard rate, has good feedback and includes specialist services within her fee are as accommodating to the ones that offer a higher fee and only provides the specialist service without gfe.

I think there are some working girls that state their Do's and Don't's to level out a fee, the other ladies that outlines their Do's and Dont's on their websites do this to show their limits and what they are uncomfortable in providing services, also prevents time wasters and people who don't bother to read up on the working girls profile.

So in my view their are some pro's and con's to this!

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To be honest a girl who has the attitude of feeling sick about a bare cock in her mouth, should never have come into this business at all. Its like a chef, refusing to handle meat. Apart from teaching and possibly nursing, few industries attract so many candidates who are fundementally unsuited for the the work. I remember a girl in Blair st, asked me what I liked doing in the room, I mentioned 69, there was an awkward pause, and then she said that she didnt like the idea of someone going down on her! Apart from anything else its unfair on the other girls in the parlour, she and others like her are driving customers away.

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Sarah, if your friend were rather older then uncovered services would have been the order of the day or at least as much available as covered.

But otherwise I agree the services have expanded in their more widespread availablity.

I think you are one of those who are simply deservedly popular and whose character is a big part of what brings your clients back to you so the services become of themselves less significant - i.e. it is the person first not the services available first that punters are brought back to you for.

A lot of other girls could basically call themselves the services they do and not bother with a normal name because punters aren't that interested.

Generalising hugely of course.

I don't see why anyone should not be able to offer as many or as few services as they see fit.

Someone told me today she didn't even kiss with tongues with boyfriends so of course she shouldn't feel pressured into doing it with strangers.

It does of course mean it really is almost a necessity for a mutually satisfying meet for girls to be clear in making the punter aware what they do, don't do and only do at their discretion.

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I wonder do the prices these days truly reflect what you can get for your money, given that services like anal are now expected rather than hoped for?

Is this why girls have to state all those dos and do nots on their sites (which I hate and won't do) I wonder?

I actually use the purple site more and more BECAUSE the WGs there, mostly indies' (which I prefer, these days), list their 'dos' and 'do nots'. Not because I have exotic tastes in services - to the contrary, as an older punter, my own 'enjoys' have become increasingly prosaic over time - but because this info helps give me some idea of the type of person I would be seeing. I am definitely a GFE-seeker and I would be inclined to avoid the WG who appears to favour PSE-type olympic events and athletes. If I can find one who shares my own preferences, we both are more likely to enjoy our time together and more likely to develop a closer relationship over time. An 'indie' whose personal website provides that same sort of information and insight will find me an interested reader, as well. I am rarely disappointed. :)

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That's a really good point and I have been also wondering about this also!

I think working girls offering specialist services that are more in the fetish realm charge an extra fee such as water sports and the other sport which I don't subscribe to...

Having the working girl outline their Do's and Don't's is something that punters like me find quite beneficial as I don't have to go and waste my time and enquiry via email or phone to then find out she will not do a particular service when all of this could be avoided if she was to outline this on her site.

I understand your point of view where you would offer a particular service depending how you feel at the time, however this can not be set in stone for punters that want a particular service and to hope you would provide this depending what mood your... you either provide that service or you don't.

I think we live in a time where their is something for everybody, Mistress, school girl fantasies, water sports, anal, foot fetish etc... In my experience the women that offers a good standard rate, has good feedback and includes specialist services within her fee are as accommodating to the ones that offer a higher fee and only provides the specialist service without gfe.

I think there are some working girls that state their Do's and Don't's to level out a fee, the other ladies that outlines their Do's and Dont's on their websites do this to show their limits and what they are uncomfortable in providing services, also prevents time wasters and people who don't bother to read up on the working girls profile.

So in my view their are some pro's and con's to this!

I find WGs outlining their dos and donts on their sites/profiles beneficial as well but i never rely on what it says as being accurate due to doing so in the past and being told by a few WGs that they actually didnt offer what they said they did anymore and had "forgotten" to update their sites/profiles. So a site/profile is a guide for me nowadays with services offered to be confirmed by a phone chat and then i have done ALL i can to seek confirmation that what i require really is on offer.

Since my early punting days when AIDS was in the news a lot services have become incredibly more extensive and what was on offer then by the WGs who i punted with in the main wouldnt be sufficient for me nowadays, no kissing and little OWO which are absolute essentials for me now. All in all and with the help of sites like this its a great time to be a punter in my opinion, the best time in my 28 years of punting has been in the last few years. :)

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If a girl is not comfortable with offering certain services, then she shouldn't do them. And the advertising she has available should reflect this. I would not book a girl in the "hope" she does something, so it's important she is honest in her profile.

There are many girls who see a service as purely a service, and so will give a great time doing what the client desires. If a girl is uncomfortable with this, maybe she is in the wrong profession in the first place???

If a girl hates having an uncovered cock in her mouth, then don't it. But if she finds that she gets less custom then so be it. But rather than do something she doesn't want, maybe look for a more suitable career.

The fact is, that there are wonderful providers out there for every service. Your "friend" sounds like she is not at all suited to the profession. I would not wish to book such a girl, so it's important that girls list what they are comfortable with doing.

Point of proof, i saw a girl that i had partied with at LMP and had OWO, after she left there at a parlour. She apologised that she no longer offered offered OWO, and would understand if i walked. I stayed. Why...because she was a wonderful girl, and i wanted her whether she did oral with or without.

It is up to the girl what she is comfortable offering. And it is up to the client what he wants from a session. It really should be that simple.

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But........... do today's prices truly reflect the level of services on offer today given that in days gone by, they were far more limited?

Once OWO was the new black.... now it is any other number of services.

You see, I think guys get much more for their wedge these days simply because there is all this info at their fingertips :)

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You see, I think guys get much more for their wedge these days simply because there is all this info at their fingertips :)

The girls are more aware of what the competition is up to, which makes them more competitive and value minded, and the guys now have a far better view of what is available to them, used to be you only knew about what you saw on cards etc, which was all very localised, you never knew what was available a couple of miles away.

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But........... do today's prices truly reflect the level of services on offer today given that in days gone by, they were far more limited?

Once OWO was the new black.... now it is any other number of services.

You see, I think guys get much more for their wedge these days simply because there is all this info at their fingertips :)

Competition is much fiercer nowadays with WGs from all over prepared to offer very extensive services at lower cost than ever before in real terms so i agree in general punters get more for their money than ever before, or at least in my years as a punter. The net certainly plays its part in this and if as a punter you know about sites like this you can find out so much that can help you with your punting. :)

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But........... do today's prices truly reflect the level of services on offer today given that in days gone by, they were far more limited?

Once OWO was the new black.... now it is any other number of services.

You see, I think guys get much more for their wedge these days simply because there is all this info at their fingertips :)

Supply has rocketed. EU, internet, sharing of information etc. Also it's become quite a 'cool' profession recently, and new girls can do a lot of research thus are more inclined to give it to go. Sites like the unmentionable have all 'helped'. Then there's cost of studies, living. So yes, access to information has brought changes but the net has changed most industries. I wouldn't have punted without the net, it's brought new customers too.

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Supply has rocketed. EU, internet, sharing of information etc. Also it's become quite a 'cool' profession recently, and new girls can do a lot of research thus are more inclined to give it to go. Sites like the unmentionable have all 'helped'. Then there's cost of studies, living. So yes, access to information has brought changes but the net has changed most industries. I wouldn't have punted without the net, it's brought new customers too.

So - I can put my rates up then guys? :):):)

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So - I can put my rates up then guys? :):):)

Well I think the other site has seen a lot of girls increasing their rates.

Taking half hours, when I first met that site, 50 and 60 were the norm but now there are very many 70 and 80 (and increasingly, and sometimes unaccountably, 100 requests).

So put your prices up by all means Sarah, I'm suspecting you're worth it -

err it's been a tough month, could I have a discount, love?

:)

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So - I can put my rates up then guys? :):):)

Yep, give it a go <_<

tbh, vanilla is enough for me. If more exotic services are available as part of the rate, I will usually partake :)

The 'magic' is either there or it isn't for me, not about services. She must have sex appeal, and be responsive, those are the good ones.

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When I started, about fifteen years ago, the price for an hour was around £100, then quickly went up to £120, and the girls didn't kiss, everything was covered and they wouldn't do this and they wouldn't do that and I just accepted it. Then I took about three years off from punting, but when I came back to it, about nine years ago, prices had jumped to £150, but suddenly all the girls kissed and oral wasn't covered any more and many of the new girls were more open to experimenting. I'm not sure if this was because of porn being made legal or for some other reason, but from a punter's position it is certainly better.

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When I started, about fifteen years ago, the price for an hour was around £100, then quickly went up to £120, and the girls didn't kiss, everything was covered and they wouldn't do this and they wouldn't do that and I just accepted it. Then I took about three years off from punting, but when I came back to it, about nine years ago, prices had jumped to £150, but suddenly all the girls kissed and oral wasn't covered any more and many of the new girls were more open to experimenting. I'm not sure if this was because of porn being made legal or for some other reason, but from a punter's position it is certainly better.

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Oh bugger, I can never work out how to quote and reply in one go.

However, what I was going to say was: thirty years ago, uncovered oral and sex were, if not the norm, quite common. This was in London, and pre-AIDS. What wasn't on offer (in my experience) was kissing of any sort, and anal (which at that time was illegal).

Now kissing and anal are easily available, uncovered oral has always been, and bareback, as this forum has so often pointed out, has made a comeback.

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It seems to me that scat is really popular at the moment. It has been for the last couple of weeks anyway! So perhaps with more and more guys suddenly showing an interest in hardsports, in a few months time, that will be the norm and people would expect that as part of the regular booking at no extra cost. Now, i dont know about you, but i cant poop on demand. And even if i could, i refuse to do that as part of a sexual act. Hence i'm glad we have the option to put our do's and donts on our profiles and websites because it saves dissapointment on both sides.

But i know that just around the corner is a younger, prettier and slightly more expensive girl practising her 'on command pooping' right now! And well done to her!

Did i go a little off topic? Perhaps...

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It seems to me that scat is really popular at the moment. It has been for the last couple of weeks anyway! So perhaps with more and more guys suddenly showing an interest in hardsports, in a few months time, that will be the norm and people would expect that as part of the regular booking at no extra cost. Now, i dont know about you, but i cant poop on demand. And even if i could, i refuse to do that as part of a sexual act. Hence i'm glad we have the option to put our do's and donts on our profiles and websites because it saves dissapointment on both sides.

But i know that just around the corner is a younger, prettier and slightly more expensive girl practising her 'on command pooping' right now! And well done to her!

Did i go a little off topic? Perhaps...

From profiles on the other site i have noted that some WGs who say they offer Hardsports need at least a days notice, i assume this is so as to get a curry or two eaten in preparation. ;)

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Really? Surely that would cause 'squirty berties'! I'm thinking a day of weetabix might help! But even still! You can only hold it in for so long! And if the client is late, well...!

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Really? Surely that would cause 'squirty berties'! I'm thinking a day of weetabix might help! But even still! You can only hold it in for so long! And if the client is late, well...!

You are probably right, get some fibre in you so it comes out in lumps. :eek:

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Perhaps we should test it out! I've got some no frills weetabix... Prunes... Farleys Rusks... Corn... Squid... Am i going off topic again? Wait a second... Hardsports should cost extra! You actually have to go food shopping for specific things in order for 'things' to happen!

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Bleurgh! Really, is it really becoming popular?! I can't even pee in front of anyone else! Incidentally is it more common for than man to want to be the pooher or the.. um pooee?

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[quote name= Incidentally is it more common for than man to want to be the pooer or the.. um pooee?

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I am pretty open minded, and finding peeing hugely fun :lol:

But i must admit...i just can't see the appeal of someone taking a crap on me,or me on them :blink:

For a start....the smell is horrific :lol:

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